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18-09-2010, 22:52
Marco

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I thought it looked like a liquid coolant pipe.

It's a turbo-charger, Chris, to give the sound more VRRROOOOOOM! :eyebrows:

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Come to think of it, how is the arm cued and where is the arm lift/lower mechanism?

There isn't one, Barry - such things are for wimps! Hand-cueing is where it's at ;)

Remember also that with the sheer torque of those broadcast decks, all the DJ would do is place the stylus on the groove (at the start of whatever song he wanted to play), with the platter at a stationary position, and then hit the start button! The platter would be up to speed in fraction of a second, so there's no need for arm lift/lowering mechanisms.

Marco (who always hand-cues his records).
21-09-2010, 07:32
The Grand Wazoo

If you need a decent pair of headphones..........and if you're quick..........

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Grado-RS1-head...item4152b88ef2

Grado RS1
21-09-2010, 12:46
Rare Bird

Can i just butt in cos this is bugging me, i had this again the other day for the fifth time this year! When i ask about condition of an item (cos i am anal about it, but they don't know how much so) Why do they always say ''What do expect for the age of it, if you are so fussy, why not buy new from a shop!'' That cop out really get up my nose. But spot the section that makes no sence whats so ever, i've underlined it to help you a bit :lolsign:
21-09-2010, 13:41
Marco

Yeah, like you can walk into a shop and buy vintage Ferrographs or Quads new? Fudburgers! :mental:

Marco.
21-09-2010, 13:43
DSJR

I think you have to accept that anything that has been un-wrapped from its sealed box is going to get the odd mark and scratch in the course of use. That's fine to me. When I see stuff that's been downright abused however, I do get a bit cross..

Andr'e, I know where you are, having had a manic fusspot friend for thirty years who covers everything in plastic sheets when not in use and uses cotton gloves to operate his gear. He got peed off because his Revoxes developed noisy switches through not being used. Last I heard, he'd power them up for a few minutes every few months or so to give the parts some use. he also bought a c.1900 German grand-daughter clock and wouldn't run it because it would wear out. Bearing in mind this thing had run for decades with no problem save servicing every so often, I told him he'd do more harm not running it as the lubricants would dry out..
21-09-2010, 17:46
Rare Bird

Just when i thought i was alone with the cotton gloves thing :lolsign:
21-09-2010, 17:56
spendorman

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Originally Posted by Andre

Just when i thought i was alone with the cotton gloves thing :lolsign:

Rubber gloves here!
21-09-2010, 19:15
Spectral Morn

How things are described anywhere is a bug bear of mine too....what does tidy mean etc :scratch:

Just tell in detail everything that is wrong.....buyer knows what they are getting and thus there are no surprises, bad feedback, unpleasantness etc.....a few lost sales perhaps.

Regards D S D L
03-10-2010, 06:49
Alex_UK

Nice looking Radford SC22 Stereo Control Unit on ebay at the moment. Not sure I would trust the seller, though... ;)
03-10-2010, 07:08
spendorman

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Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Nice looking Radford SC22 Stereo Control Unit on ebay at the moment. Not sure I would trust the seller, though... ;)

I always liked the look of the SC22, mine came with The STA25 III and matching FM tuner that I bought decades ago.

Just to remind anyone interested, the SC22 needs HT and LT to work. This is normally supplied by the valve power amplifier via a special cable which has octal connectors. An external power supply (of internal) could be added.

The SC22P has a power supply already built in, so can be used with any power amplifier.
03-10-2010, 08:54
DSJR

Cambridge R40's from a seller I've used with no problem -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...B:FSEL:GB:1123

I don't know where their stock comes from, but it may be ex police-recovered stuff for all I know. The item I bought was well packed and perfect for the spares I needed.
03-10-2010, 09:15
spendorman

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Originally Posted by DSJR

Cambridge R40's from a seller I've used with no problem -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...B:FSEL:GB:1123

I don't know where their stock comes from, but it may be ex police-recovered stuff for all I know. The item I bought was well packed and perfect for the spares I needed.

Worth the money just for the B110's, assuming that they are OK.

I bought B&W DM4's and JR149's from the same supplier, very good. I collected from their warehouse.
03-10-2010, 09:29
hifi_dave

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Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Nice looking Radford SC22 Stereo Control Unit on ebay at the moment. Not sure I would trust the seller, though... ;)

Cheeky sod.
03-10-2010, 12:20
Marco

Gosh, that's gorgeous, Dave! What does it sound like? :)

Also, what valves does it use?

Marco.
03-10-2010, 12:32
spendorman

A friend is using Radford SC22 and STA20 (yes 20). He tried a Quad 77 preamp instead of the SC22 and prefers the SC22 to the Quad.

The rest of his stuff includes RAM LS3/5a, Spendor BC1, Thorens TD124 II/ SME,various cartridges and Quad CDP2 CD player.
03-10-2010, 15:25
hifi_dave

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Originally Posted by Marco

Gosh, that's gorgeous, Dave! What does it sound like? :)

Also, what valves does it use?

Marco.

Sorry, it's been a while since I sat and listened to one but from memory it's a bit warm and cuddly. It would be a good unit to tinker with I'm sure as it is all laid out nicely inside, with four (unknown) tubes I believe.

You might find more info on the SC22 in The Art of Sound Library.
03-10-2010, 15:28
spendorman

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Originally Posted by hifi_dave

Sorry, it's been a while since I sat and listened to one but from memory it's a bit warm and cuddly. It would be a good unit to tinker with I'm sure as it is all laid out nicely inside, with four (unknown) tubes I believe.

You might find more info on the SC22 in The Art of Sound Library.

Not according to my friend, he says it's very detailed, hears things that he's missed using the Quad 77 pre.

He reckons that it's phono stage is very good, quiet too.
03-10-2010, 15:53
spendorman

This arrived the other day:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Bought because a musician friend reckons that the amp sounds nice, he has plenty of stuff to compare it to. eg. Rogers Junior Stereo power amplifier, Quad 44, two Quad 405's (upgraded and serviced by yours truly), Affordable Amplifier Company EL34 amp (pretty good), several NAD,s Tannoy 12" Chatsworths, Quad ESL63 and more.

Well, I have to agree with him, B&O Beolab 1700 is very nice sounding. The tuner has a fault on one channel, will have to look at that.

Both tuner and amp were very dirty outside, but pretty clean inside. They cleaned up pretty well. Inside, sealed in miniature envelopes, were circuit diagrams, a nice touch.

Pic after cleaning and using Teak Oil on the wood.

The flash has caught it and shows where it's not cleaned that well. Not noticeable in ordinary light.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/...90c47744_b.jpg
03-10-2010, 16:07
hifi_dave

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Originally Posted by spendorman

Not according to my friend, he says it's very detailed, hears things that he's missed using the Quad 77 pre.

He reckons that it's phono stage is very good, quiet too.

That might well be. It's years since I have used one and that was straight out of a skip, so a good one could be a useful tool. I've only ever bothered with the power amps.

The SC22 I am selling is very grubby inside so it needs some TLC but it did work with CD when I last tried it. The circuit inside does look a lot more promising than the inside of a Quad 22 or Leak pre, both of which are masses of wire and switching and not much else.
03-10-2010, 16:13
spendorman

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Originally Posted by hifi_dave

That might well be. It's years since I have used one and that was straight out of a skip, so a good one could be a useful tool. I've only ever bothered with the power amps.

The SC22 I am selling is very grubby inside so it needs some TLC but it did work with CD when I last tried it. The circuit inside does look a lot more promising than the inside of a Quad 22 or Leak pre, both of which are masses of wire and switching and not much else.

His one is grubby inside (so is mine!) and I have not used my SC22 for about 25 years!! A problem with most of these old valve pre amps is that when one connects a modern tape? (or cassette) recorder to the tape output, it loads that too much and affects the sound coming out of the speakers. This was a problem with Rogers and Quad as well.
03-10-2010, 18:24
Barry

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Originally Posted by spendorman

This arrived the other day:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Bought because a musician friend reckons that the amp sounds nice, he has plenty of stuff to compare it to. eg. Rogers Junior Stereo power amplifier, Quad 44, two Quad 405's (upgraded and serviced by yours truly), Affordable Amplifier Company EL34 amp (pretty good), several NAD,s Tannoy 12" Chatsworths, Quad ESL63 and more.

Well, I have to agree with him, B&O Beolab 1700 is very nice sounding. The tuner has a fault on one channel, will have to look at that.

Both tuner and amp were very dirty outside, but pretty clean inside. They cleaned up pretty well. Inside, sealed in miniature envelopes, were circuit diagrams, a nice touch.

Pic after cleaning and using Teak Oil on the wood.

The flash has caught it and shows where it's not cleaned that well. Not noticeable in ordinary light.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/...90c47744_b.jpg

Excellent purchase there Paul.

I paid £20 for the tuner alone, but am very pleased with it. It could well be the tuner (out of six that I have) that remains in my system. I would place its sound as lying between that of the Leak Troughline and the Quad FM3.

The tuning cursor on yours is in better condition than mine. Mine has becomed slightly cloudy; possible due to being exposed to solvent fumes. You have cleaned both up nicely - no doubt through following the excellent advice provided by AoS members in the Library article. :)

Regards
03-10-2010, 18:39
spendorman

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Originally Posted by Barry

Excellent purchase there Paul.

I paid £20 for the tuner alone, but am very pleased with it. It could well be the tuner (out of six that I have) that remains in my system. I would place its sound as lying between that of the Leak Troughline and the Quad FM3.

The tuning cursor on yours is in better condition than mine. Mine has becomed slightly cloudy; possible due to being exposed to solvent fumes. You have cleaned both up nicely - no doubt through following the excellent advice provided by AoS members in the Library article. :)

Regards

Yes the friend that I referred to also has the Beomaster 1700 tuner, bought it new when they first came out. Never had any problems with it, reckons that the sound is very good.

My Beomaster, as mentioned is dead on one channel. I have got a Sterofetic that had a similar faullt, found a faulty transistor after the decoder. Replaced that, all OK.

Trouble is that the 1700 tuner does not look that easy to get at things. I will have a try at repairing some time.

Actually, I informed the seller of the B&O amp and tuner that the tuner was dead on one channel and he offered a £17.50 refund.

The power on light in the 1700 amp was not working, did not have filament lamp the same, so replaced it with a LED.

If you can get your tuning cursor off, you could try Brasso or Duraglit on it, bet that would sort out that cloudy problem.

I've been cleaning up and sorting Hi Fi for a long time, over 40 years, there seems to be no cure.
03-10-2010, 18:47
Rare Bird

I liked the Beolab 5000 amp, The beogram 3000:TD124 based vinyl grinder was cool aswell..
03-10-2010, 19:18
Barry

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Originally Posted by Marco

Gosh, that's gorgeous, Dave! What does it sound like? :)

Also, what valves does it use?

Marco.

For information on the SC22 you might like to have a look at:

http://www.bonavolta.ch/hobby/en/audio/radford.htm

and read (not easy, due to the small print):

http://www.gramophone.net/Issue/Page...966/106/738456

The SC22 used 2 x ECC83 valves with a BC107 transistor in the disc circuit per channel. It also took its HT and heater supplies from the power amp as was usual at that time (the Quad 22, Leak, Lowther and Rogers preamps did the same). The CS22 used +375V on pin 7; earth, pin 2; with 6.3V AC heater supply on pins 1 and 8 of the octal connector.

Without wishing to in any way to scupper Dave’s success in selling the preamp on eBay, I have to say that it, along with the other preamps mentioned, now sound quite poor compared to today’s offerings. Good in their day, but now best regarded as hi-fi objects d’art. Unless, of course you use a Radford power amplifier and want to have the matching preamp.

Like you Marco, I think the Radford has the lovely retro looks of the ‘60s, along with the Quad and Leak gear. It could serve as an elegant chassis/basis for a re-build, using more up-to-date circuit topology and components. If you like the look of the SC22 with the heavily chromed trim, spun metal knobs and (very British) push buttons, why not consider the Sugden C51?

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/y...g?t=1286132651

Interestingly (or perversely, if you prefer) it too takes its power supply from the power amp, but in this case it is one of 16-18V DC. You could even use a couple of PP9s batteries and have yourself a battery-powered preamp. Like the Quad 22 it had provision for plug-in modules for the ‘Special’ (disc) input. One of the modules obtainable was for the Miniconic strain gauge pick-up (Soundcraftsman were not the first). It uses a lot of obsolete Farranti ZXT transistors, and like the valve preamps being discussed, it’s performance fall somewhat short by today’s standards.

Regards
03-10-2010, 19:57
Techno Commander

Townsend Elite Rock/RB300/Denon 103 packege for less than £300 with a day to go..
04-10-2010, 12:24
spendorman

These might be a bargain:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DITTON-CELESTI...item35acb2ce37

It is from the seller that I bought the B&O 1700 tuner and amplifier from.
05-10-2010, 19:06
aquapiranha

Not really a 'bargain' but look as if they would sound amazing to me anyway!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tannoy-FSM-hig...item45f59d640e
05-10-2010, 19:16
Reid Malenfant

:wow: They look good don't they :) Looks like a 15" DC mated to a 15" bass driver, i bet they make some nice noise & lots of it to :eyebrows:
05-10-2010, 19:17
John

This looks like it could be really interesting not heard it myself but looks like it could be really good
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Tannoy...item27b57bc22f
05-10-2010, 19:21
Reid Malenfant

Look at those lovely great big heatsinks :) Not a fan in sight, now watching in "my ebay" :eyebrows:
05-10-2010, 19:27
John

me too
05-10-2010, 19:28
Ali Tait

And me!
05-10-2010, 19:28
The Grand Wazoo

That's a Tresham in Tannoy trousers
05-10-2010, 19:30
hifi_dave

That was a Tresham and before that it was Paice. Back in the day, we sold a few of those and it's half power sibling. Powerful and reliable but a bit rough and ready by today's standards.
05-10-2010, 19:31
John

cheers for the tip
05-10-2010, 19:32
Reid Malenfant

I don't care if it's Oliver Hardy in Tannoy trousers :eyebrows: That's a lot of amp & judging by the specs it has a damn good PSU as well. 50W loss at 4ohm when 8 is 250W is going some, it's got good regulation & no doubt pretty hefty PSU caps :stalks: Even if it's a little rough around the edges...
05-10-2010, 19:32
The Grand Wazoo

.......much better put Dave, thank you!
05-10-2010, 19:35
DSJR

HiFi Choice liked it as it was well behaved, if a touch "dry" in tone.
05-10-2010, 19:46
The Grand Wazoo

HiFi Choice Issue No. 44 (1986)

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2834/imglr.jpg
05-10-2010, 22:27
Rare Bird

Theres a Incadesign 'ID25' power amp up for graps..Someone wants to grab that. I totally regret letting mine go, infact i swapped it for a pile of rare albums. :mental:
05-10-2010, 22:40
Alex_UK

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Originally Posted by Andre

Theres a Incadesign 'ID25' power amp up for graps..Someone wants to grab that. I totally regret letting mine go, infact i swapped it for a pile of rare albums. :mental:

Buggered if I can find it... could you post a link, Andre?
06-10-2010, 18:15
Alex_UK

Picked up a pair of Jamo E 530 speakers as new on ebay - collected them just now - no idea if they are any good, (anyone know anything about them? Couldn't find much info on the web) but for £15 I can hardly complain! They are destined to be used in my 4th system in the summerhouse so I didn't want to spend a lot. I'll hook them up later and see how they sound.
06-10-2010, 18:25
DSJR

Jamo were Europe's biggest speaker maker for some years and I don't think the ones you've bought will be at all bad, in fact quite the opposite if memory serves.

For £15 and in Ipswich too - bloomin' ell, you lucky beggar :lol:
06-10-2010, 18:27
The Vinyl Adventure

I been watchin that tannoy thing too...
Im really glad I'm not the only person who spends time needlessly mooching on eBay ...
06-10-2010, 18:31
DSJR

Do you lot want a scan of the 'Choice review?????
06-10-2010, 18:32
Barry

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Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Picked up a pair of Jamo E 530 speakers as new on ebay - collected them just now - no idea if they are any good, (anyone know anything about them? Couldn't find much info on the web) but for £15 I can hardly complain! They are destined to be used in my 4th system in the summerhouse so I didn't want to spend a lot. I'll hook them up later and see how they sound.

4th system! :eek: Is that so no matter how inebriated you are, you are close to one music making system or another? :eyebrows:

Jamo are a well respected Danish (?) speaker manufacturer. They are used in recording studios.

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speak...2_4290crx.aspx

I use a pair of even cheaper (they were free) Eltax speakers in my 'audio-visual' system. Eltax are/were, I believe, a division of Jamo.

Regards
06-10-2010, 18:33
Techno Commander

Those Tannoys are rather epic. They would require some serious furniture re-arrangements though. :)

http://p4.piczo.com/img/i197977025_35501_4.jpg
06-10-2010, 19:30
DSJR

What about some JBL's -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JBL-4312A-CONT...item53e3b0f209

I nearly bought a pair of these blind as I loved the 4310mk2 that were sold for a short while by Harman UK. the little ATC actives came along at a bargain price instead, but for £500 you've got a Tannoy-esque immediacy but tamed over the 70's 4312 versions..
06-10-2010, 19:38
Reid Malenfant

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Originally Posted by DSJR

What about some JBL's -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JBL-4312A-CONT...item53e3b0f209

:eyebrows: No way, that's the imaging shot to hell with the driver arrangement unless they are very carefully set up. Much easier to get a good stereo image with the drivers in a vertical line. Or the mid & treble drivers in a vertical line but offset from the woofer which can help with woofer/mid time alignment a la NS1000 ;)
06-10-2010, 19:50
Alex_UK

Thanks chaps... Yes Barry, I have too much clutter, really, and I just enjoy trying different things, and systems just keep appearing with the bargains I find! :lol: All harmless fun, there's far worse things I could spend my money on, like wine, oh, um, well drugs then! :)

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