tks Loz it was a pleasure to meet you -- I'm not sure I know my stuff - certainly compared to lots of people on here but I do enjoy music and sharing ideas which is what it is all about for me .... I chastise myself for swapping gear too often but now accept that I infact get a lot of pleasure from simply hearing different components, it doesn't sound as noble and romantic as just listening to music but it makes me smile so cant be all bad .... enjoy the KEFs - I liked them and the fact that they divide opinion is no bad thing for me - maybe it suggests they aren't transparent but they worked for me ! ////// and lastly apologies to anyone I've dealt with in the past as i didnt know this thread existed !

