The only way I know of doing that in MoOde is showing the audio info from the drop down menu but that doesn't refresh with each track.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
So over to anyone else who can help with this
Cheers,
Alistair
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The only way I know of doing that in MoOde is showing the audio info from the drop down menu but that doesn't refresh with each track.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
So over to anyone else who can help with this
Cheers,
Alistair
Thanks Tim the use of hardware volume control does enable normal volume control with DSD filesQuote:
Originally Posted by TimCurtis
I've got a strange effect here playing DSD.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimCurtis
Volume Control = Hardware
Resamping = Disabled
DOP = No
The playback is like it's really slow and almost backwards sounding. Any ideas?
Ooh.. forgot, there is one other thing too.. Setting it to re-sampling at 192/24 (same as on previous Moode 2.7), now and then I get a little skip in the music that wasn't there before.
It's not all the time, once or twice in a 5 minute track and it's a skip forward and it's always in the same place. I think it's about 5 seconds before a bassy drum starts. That could be just coincidence though.
Anyone had this?
Who is running a Pi3 with Moode? Any tangible improvements in SQ? Is it a definite upgrade/improvement?
Think Marco isQuote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
My DSD playback sounds fine now I have the volume issue sorted (I am using PI3 with IQ DACamp and Moode 3). However, one thing I did notice with DSD256 files was a strange drop out and I guess it could be as you describe. I had no problems with DSD64 and DSD192. Ive not re-tried the 256 files since changing the volume setting. While trying Tim's suggestion of re-sampling the DSD256 files played fine. Have you tried different DSD quality files (size) to see if your problem happens on all sample rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
Mel
Mel
I just built a Pi3+Hifiberry Digi+ Pro with moOde 3.0 for a friend.
We ran into issues as he doesnt have a DAC that can take it all when it comes to resolutions.
Is there any way of setting a limit rather than a fixed Resample-rate?
I dont want to resample RedbookAudio, but i can neither pass DSD coverted to PCM over the optical output. (moOde crashes hard in those cases?)
Atb Mike
Mike, see my post #746 - with those settings I can play any high res file without any re-sampling and I think the IQ board has the same dac chip as the highberry. The only file I have not checked with these settings are dsd256. I do not use an optical out however.
Hi,
An in-place software update for Moode 3.0 is available that provides bug fixes, feature updates and improvements. See the list below.
To get the update, open the System configuration page and click "CHECK for software update" then click VIEW/INSTALL. Reboot after the completion message appears.
Many thanks to all of you for taking the time to test and report bugs!
Regards,
Tim
Updates
- UPD: Add real-time RR to MPD scheduler policy dropdown
- UPD: Bump squeezelite to version 1.8.5-823
- UPD: Reduce squeezelite DSP buffer setting for armv6l
Bug fixes
- FIX: Logic in Squeezelite restart job in Worker
- FIX: Pegged CPU due to FIFO schedule policy in squeezelite service
- FIX: MPD/Squeezelite fail on 1-core armv7l due to CPUAffinity setting
- FIX: Squeezelite compatibility with armv6l platform (Pi-1B/B+)
- FIX: PCM5121 chip options grayed out on Customize screen
- FIX: Incorrect coding for Audiophonics PCM5122 in audio device table
All done, working well. Thanks, Tim.
I am getting a little skip now and then and wondered if you know why. Pretty sure it's since I updated to 3.0 but need to check back to 2.7 to make sure.
It's more prominent whilst upsampling but even when running with it disabled I've heard it skip once or twice.
Also, should I be able to play DSD files when the upsampling is disabled? I can't seem to do this but they play when I upsample to 24/192khz.
Anyone had occasional skipping recently?
not on mine - Pi 2B, with Piano 2.1 Dac/Kali Reclocker, with no resampling, the only issue I have is a slight click at start when I switch tracks or albums manually.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
Hmm... thanks, Mike.
It's not all the time, just now and then. I get that same click too btw.
Do you resample ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
I wonder if the skip is due to it overrunning the CPU
No, I don't resample. But when I do (24/192) it seems to do it a little more often.
I've just been listening to a big long file opposed to a separated track album and it's only skipped once.
I have some DSD recordings too and they won't play with it disabled but will when resampled to 24/192. Alas, they skip occasionally too.
Mine is on resample with kernel upgrade on standard rpi2b and audiophonics dac. No clicks etc here that ive noticed so far.
Time to upgrade my RPi and operating system to something a bit quicker and hopefully better sounding. It will still be a single board computer with only one task. That is to take stored music from an attached hard drive and feed it to my USB DAC.
I would like to continue using Moode, but on the supplied eMMC card with the new computer I have the option of either Android or Xubuntu pre-loaded. Which one is best for Moode?
Thanks
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpy
Moode is an embedded system that only runs on Raspberry Pi and moodeOS which is based on Raspbian Jessie Lite.
-Tim
Well that's put the tin hat on that one :eek:.
Not really the right place to ask, but can anyone recommend free player software to run on either Android or Xubuntu.
Hi Tim,
First, thanks a ton for the new version of Moode ;-)
I have been playing around with a new DAC which uses two PCM5142 chips (Piano2.1 from Allo). AFAIKS, there is no dedicated "driver" for this device in Moode at the moment ? I did try the driver that is reputed to work with this DAC IQaudio I think, but it doesn't seem to support both chips specifically. Maybe I'm missing something ?
Greetings to you
Hi,
Moode 3.1 is available for download at moodeaudio.org. This is primarily a bugfix release but it does contain a nice enhancement to the Browse panel that provides auto-scroll to the selected folder when the back button is pressed.
It also includes the 4.4.24-sc1 advanced kernel. It was necessary to switch to this kernel due to source-tree issues with 4.4.30-sc1. The same advanced audio capabilities and performance tunings are provided in 4.4.24-sc1.
If you are currently using Moode 3.0 you can upgrade to Moode 3.1 via in-place software update. To get the update, open the System configuration page and click "CHECK for software update" then click VIEW then INSTALL. Reboot after the completion message appears and BE SURE to follow the post-reboot instructions. I've reprinted them below.
- Open Customize and toggle the Theme color to reset it
- Open System config and toggle the MPD scheduler policy to reset it
- If running Advanced kernel press INSTALL to update it then REBOOT
Regards,
Tim
======================
3.1 Release 2016-12-05
======================
Updates
- UPD: Add real-time RR to MPD scheduler policy dropdown
- UPD: Bump squeezelite to version 1.8.5-823
- UPD: Reduce squeezelite DSP buffer setting for armv6l
- UPD: Minor cleanup for rotary encoder driver
- UPD: Switch to 4.4.24 advanced kernel
- UPD: Add moodeaudio.org and twitter links to About
Bug fixes
- FIX: Logic in Squeezelite restart job in Worker
- FIX: Pegged CPU due to FIFO schedule pol in squeezelite svc
- FIX: MPD/Squeezelite fail on 1-core armv7l due to CPUAffinity
- FIX: Squeezelite compatibility with armv6l platform (Pi-1B/B+)
- FIX: PCM5121 chip options grayed out on Customize screen
- FIX: Incorrect coding for Audiophonics PCM5122 in audiodev tbl
- FIX: Browse not scrolling to selected item after back btn
- FIX: DLNA server status page not found
Wow, Tim... your on fire!!! :) lol
Cheers just done that....i think lol. Working anyway
All installed.
Thanks, Tim :)
Me too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
1+
What is it you are trying to do ?Quote:
Originally Posted by r100
The 2 DAC chips filtering on this card can be configured using TI's own software only - see comment below from Allo. There is a youtube video showing the software in operation on the allo.com website in the piano 2.1 section.
"The PurePath software from TI is available for download (registration required) and can be used to create specific filters and other audio functions"
So for example you could configure the subwoofer chip as a second 'normal output' if you want 4 channel operation. The player software will only deliver a suitable signal from the PI to the DAC but not actually configure the DAC filters.
Or are you saying the subwoofer output is not working with your unit - I haven't tried using a subwoofer with my unit yet but others may have.
Mel
Hi,
I would like to run the two PCM5142's in mono mode, one for the Left channel and one for Right channel, stereo 2.0 output (no sub) .., is that even possible or useful to enhance SQ ? As I said, maybe I'm missing something. Advice welcome.
All the best. Thank's
Interesting idea - I think you need to raise it in the DIYAUDIO forum where you will find much technical experience and comment.
Personally, I would expect it to be a backward step for sound quality. All chips are built to meet tolerances and are not all equal so theoretically you could end up with an imbalance between channels but whether you would hear that or not I don't know. I would doubt ALLO have measured the DACS and selected/produced matched pairs at the price point they are working at.
Mel
Yep, I should do that but maybe I'll ask Andre (Audiohwr) before. He is the designer / representative of the Piano2.1...
I checked on Torsten Jeakel's RPI DAC which uses the PCM5102 chip. It can be stacked into a double mono configuration. So maybe there is a possibility to do the same with the Piano2.1 but merely by reconfiguring the SW... (hopefully ;-) as there are already 2 chips on the board.
greets
rupert
hello
I've tried this over at Computeraudiophile.com, but perhaps someone here can point me in the right direction. I've got Moode up and running (Macbook Air -> ethernet cable -> Rasperry Pi 3 B -> power amp speakers). the test files play nicely. I'd like to stream Tidal, but can't find any guides for this. I've enabled all the Airplay options & set up a BubbleUpnp server, where Moode is a renderer, but the Tidal app still channels sound into laptop speakers.
I'd be very grateful for any pointers
ahto
I have used Tidal via airplay/moode in the pass, I think I just clicked on the Tidal audio icon on the ipad and selected moode airplay, might be different using a web browser on the mac air. You should just need airplay switched on in moode, that's how I use it with Deezer.
thanks, fixed it -- the answer seems to be Kazoo.
on which note, is there anything else that can control Tidal?
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by eksiil
On a Mac just click the volume icon and it should list all the Airplay targets. Select "Moode Airplay" and audio from the app should be routed to Moode Airplay instead of Internal Speakers. AFAIK no need to install anything additional on Raspberry Pi.
-Tim
Well, you could go down the Roon road? That way you'd have both local music and Tidal available in the same, splendid sounding way.Quote:
Originally Posted by eksiil
Nuthing wrong with moOde, but Roon is the most mature user interface so far.
Cheers!
Hi,
Next release of Moode will raise the bar for audio quality and include a fully integrated REAL-TIME Advanced Audio Kernel supporting the latest I2S drivers from Allo (Piano | Boss) and many other nice features and improvements.
Get ready for SMP PREEMPT RT :-)
-Tim
Thanks Tim, really pleased to see the support for the Allow DACs - any reason to believe The Boss won't work with moode on a Pi B+, do you know?
Hi Luke,Quote:
Originally Posted by LC1979
I don't have a B+ so this might be a good question for Allo :-)
-Tim
Got a timescale for new release Tim?
Thanks Tim, I had no reason to suspect until I saw that another distro was releasing an update with Allo drivers, but for Pi 2/3 only. I'm hoping this is unrelated to the hardware, but will check with Allo...
Quick question: Does Moode play multichannel flac files over hdmi in hi-res? I've got quite a lot of 5.1 discs I'd like to rip and play from a harddrive through the RPi.
I have Moode 3.1 installed on my pi 3 with the Iqaudio Pi-Digi +.
It plays my collection of 5.1 DTS flac/wav files very nicely.
On another pi 3 I have OSMC kodi installed mainly for film streaming but does play 5.1 DTS audio via the HDMI.
Happy Days
If I may ask, how are you transferring 6 channels to 6 speakers? I assume via HDMI?Quote:
Originally Posted by tubehunter
No optically from the pi-digi+ on one pi.
On the OSMC Kodi pi, HDMI to my Sony smart TV then optically to the best bargain around.
A Yamaha DSP-E800 hidden gem shhh
Then plenty of power amps
Happy Days
Isn't digital such a wonderful medium. :scratch:
Threads like this just leave me cold, there is so much to take on board, in terms of hardware/application software/operating system and no "right way" of doing anything. Ask 10 peoples opinions and you will get 10 different answers, even on an objective basis. Playing over a network, either hard wired or wifi, using USB,SPDIF,i2s, the permutations are endless.
It just gets further and further from the point, of playing, or rather listening, to music.
Its not that I can't understand it, I just don't want to spend my precious time on it these days.
I used to take an interest in the latest technologies, I worked on the first Blue tooth Keyboard in the world for Logitech and the first computer I ever used was a unix workstation at £25k a seat hardware plus £25k software. These days I want technology to be sorted, plug and play, if you have to resort to the handbook, its badly designed. A Graphic designer friend of mine once told me, "I don't want to know how a computer or any of the programs work, its a tool I use to perform my work, end of." It's a valid point which has stuck with me.
The vastness of it all, must put so many people off even trying. Sure, you can get a tune out of anything you throw together, but getting a good sound, or the best out of your gear, is another story. Makes the task of setting up a turntable look pretty mundane, all things considered.
Yes it's finally happened, I've turned into a grumpy old man. :D
Thanks. Do you know if moode will also send this over hdmi straight into a processor? I'm finding it hard to find any information online. A lot of reports that multichannel over hdmi is limited to 16/48 due to something in the ALSA downsampling, but no idea if this was ever resolved.Quote:
Originally Posted by tubehunter
Well I've been rather apatheic about all this talk of advaned audio kernels and hugely upsampled data rates etc. Previous experience with my IQ DAC+ was that software volume control sounded poor and it was best use no upsampling or other clever software twiddling. OTOH people were also claiming that the TI's digital filters are rubbish - well as far as I'm concerned if that it the case then they are all equally rubbish, becuase I cannot distuinguish any difference at all in the sound of them.
Anway in a slightly less apathetic moment I decided to upgrade from Moode 2.3 to 3.1.
After 2+ hours of dicking about with diskpart, windiskimager, zip-7 and similar bits of not-very-user-friendly software, followed by several resets, reboots and expletives it is finallly working.
All I can say is Wow!!!!
Changing from Moode 2.3 with no upsampling, hardware vol to 3.1 with software vol and updampling to 32/384 has resulted in a huge improvement in sound quality. The sound is so much clearer, but at the same time more laid-back and harmonically richer. It's much easier to hear the ambience of the recording venue etc. Treble is very noticeably clearer and less splashy. This is not one of those changes where you need to swap around to decide which is preferable. There are no downsides and the difference is very significant.
I'm impressed. And happy!
Extra bonus: the handling/UI has improved as well.
Extra, extra bonus: it's FOC!
Hi Starterman,
can you just clarify what you had to do in the UI to implement the upsampling for your pi DAC + please? I'd like to try it but it wasn't obvious to me what settings to tweak!
Also, do you mean that turning software volume on has also improved the sound?! I thought this was a complete no go, though it would be useful to me if there is indeed no degradation to the SQ as my amp is hidden out of sight and so a complete pain to twiddle the knob for every new album with different volume levels... :)
Cheers,
Luke
Thats the settings i use. 32/384 moode3. With the updated kernel too. Ive a self powered hdd in the usb with music on it. Works well, adeasy to set up, or was for me.. it updates now without flashing the card again which is a bonus. Settings are there in settings , not hidden.lol. Remember to apply when needed and restart when needed too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starterman