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And then add a Spin bearing.....
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Lol - nope... Not that it wouldn't be good, but simply that MN one is fixed to a base plate, bonded with 'no nails', which isn't going anywhere- ever!
I also rate the MN bearing highly and wouldn't change it anyway, ditto the ETP platter. For me it's about cherry-picking the best 'bits' from a variety of different sources and combining them into one, in order to get the 'best of all worlds':)
That said, I'd happily use anything that Arthur made for a turntable, and be confident it would perform to the highest standard, as he really is a vinyl guru... The Techy is sounding simply stunning - best it ever has, with the addition of the APM and Houdini, and the awesome sounding Denon DL-103GL, which is arguably the best 103 I've ever heard.
I'd honestly put this T/T up against ANYTHING at ANY price and expect it never to be disgraced.
Marco.
Surely the Aachromat APM kind of negates the need for an expensive platter?
My Achromat is bonded to my platter, so trying an APM version will not be easy.
Nah, not in my experience. The platter does something different to the mat, especially in terms of adding rotational mass, which on a D/D turntable is desirable. If I just had the original Techy platter on there, with the APM, it would undoubtedly sound worse.
Marco.
I thought the APM was used with the technics platter and went on top of it. does it actually replace the platter completely? if you could post some pics of the APM it would be a great help if you don't mind.
As far as I'm aware it's not designed to replace the platter completely; it's simply an improved version of the existing Achromat, with a glass base, which provides better isolation. And as I've said, I don't have a Technics platter.
I'll see if I can post a pic of the mat tomorrow:)
Marco.
I spoke to Matt of the Funk firm, and he tells me it is primarily designed to fit the Technics platter (which you don’t have ;)) to stop the platter ring.
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APM is available to buy in the store but currently on back order. It is a technics mat with a glass backing to cure ringing platter on one of the new models (not sure which )? It will go up with all information when stocks replenish in new year. (It’s on the long list)
Indeed, yes, primarily, but it was also recommended to me as an upgrade for the stock Achromat, which would also optimise the effect of the Houdini - and I can confirm that both are true!:)
Btw, mine is designed to fit the surface of a normal platter. In any case, the APM is a no-brainer upgrade on the stock achromat, for ALL turntables, if you can accommodate the extra 'thickness' and make the necessary adjustments to VTA.
I'll take some pics later:cool:
Marco.
Hence the use of the word “primarily”.
I don’t need one (I don’t think) on my Strata platter.
Well, if you use an Achromat [yes/no?] then the APM will defo be an upgrade, no matter which platter it's sat on. You can never have too much effective isolation:)
Marco.
I am not 100% sure that an achromat with a glass back will be any different to an achromat bonded to a glass platter, if I am honest.
Taking the old one off will not be easy, and hard to replace as I have heard they are discontinuing the 5mm version.
Ah if you've bonded it that's different, then leave well alone:)
Marco.
In other news, I've ordered these Jantzen caps, for the Celestions, to replace the original electrolytics: https://www.hificollective.co.uk/com...apacitors.html
They were the only 'sanely priced' ones I could find in 12uF, and cheap as chips! Should do the job nicely, in combination with the Jupiter Copper Foils:)
I've also ordered some of this Jantzen speaker cable, to rewire the internals [nothing fancy, but it'll do the job and be a million times better than what's in there now]: https://www.hificollective.co.uk/cat...e-2x13awg.html
Full report on the results when both have been fitted!:cool:
Marco.
Final work carried out on the Tandberg, which has come to £160, now including new heads and fully calibrated for the tapes of my choice:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/6jGp3f.png
And it's now ready for collection!:carrot::cool:
Marco.
Guess what? Chris (the engineer) has upgraded the playback heads on my deck to ones from the 440, which have a flatter and more extended frequency response, see here (very similar to the above): https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...lver-152713090
Result!:yay:
Marco.
Lol - I know what you mean. so am I. He said it's one of the best examples he's worked on [testament to it having been looked after and only one owner from new], and sounds fantastic now, after essentially being stripped down and rebuilt!
As you can imagine, being one of Tandberg's original EEs, he knows these machines inside out. He's in his mid-60s and proper old school:)
Marco.
You have to decide what the first album you tape on it is going to be.
Jeez, with around 3000 CDs and 4000 LPs, that's gonna be a tough one!:D
Some Dan? You know I'm a big fan:eyebrows: Well, I have all of their albums of vinyl... It'll be interesting though how close I can get the tape to sound like the original:)
Do you still have something to play tapes on? I could send you a mix, lol... Del still has the Walkman she used in college, and it works perfectly!
Marco.
might get good results if its bang on as it should be. alas cassette is limited by the tape size but still...
Yups.... Thing is, I was getting more than acceptably good results before, so goodness knows what it'll be capable of now...
Will be nice to have it to play with over Christmas:)
Marco.
Auto-reverse, by jove!:respect:
Does it still work, i.e. play tapes - when was the last time you tried it?:)
Marco.
I think I last used it about 15 years ago, just to see if it worked and it did. I bought it in about 1987 from Tandy in Lord Street, Liverpool (don't look for it etc).
It was about £70 so a lot of money back then. In typical Tandy style it didn't come with headphones, you had to buy them separately.
Practically never used it. I bet it doesn't have even 20 hours on the heads.
Lol - the Realistic brand was quality, and represented quite a few products. Some of the speakers were also pretty good. So do you have some headphones you can plug into it? If so, I'll make you up a couple of tapes, just for a larf!:D
Btw, do you remember Beaver Hi-Fi in Liverpool? I used to go there in the early-to-mid 2000s. Del's mum knew the owners.
Marco.
The only headphones I have is the headset I use for phone calls. It's USB so not compatible.
I do recall Beaver Radio, I think they changed it to Beaver Hi-fi in the 1980s sometime. Nearly bought my first system there but they were too pricey. Went to Richer Sounds instead.
I did hear a very good system demoed there once, with the B&W Matrix floorstanders and I think JVC electronics. That had big effect on my fragile hi-fi mind.
Yeah, that's the place. They used to sell some good kit and the staff were always knowledgeable - a proper old school dealership:)
If you want, I'll send you a pair of headphones, along with the tapes (say of some Dan/Zep/ZZ Top albums, and a bit Sinatra thrown in for good measure), and you can relive the 80s:D
Marco.
It's a kind offer but you know what will happen if you do that.
I wasn't much for 1980s music at the time but now it sounds like genius compared to the current efforts.
The fashions were bad though, I give you that.
Everything changed from 1989 on, up until then, there was still a lot of good music, and talented musicians around!
All IMO :)
Nooo! The eighties was the best generation for music IMHO (and no, I’m not talking about the chart rubbish).
Also, what’s not to love about a Lamborghini Countach or a Ferrari Testarossa, or a big fat mobile phone, or a Filofax or one of those new-fangled “Compact Disc” players?
And as far as fashion goes, the sight of a 1980s power-dressed business woman still reduces me to a dribbling, gibbering idiot.
I may possibly be over-sharing here...
Not to mention the sexist ad s in hi fi mags lol
:lolsign:
And that would be a bad thing, why?:D
Anyway, I collected it today, and it sounded mighty fine in the engineer's test system. Interesting too, to see his 'lab' and how he goes about his business, which was fascinating - a real perfectionist!
TBH, now that he's 'breathed on it', as it were, it's simply made it into a more desirable thing and added to the overall pride of ownership:cool:
Marco.
It's a temptation I've been trying to avoid for a long time, made easier as I don't have any tapes to play on one.
Lol - that would be easily enough sorted:eyebrows:
Hey, if would be blast making up some mad compilations for each other - swapping tapes, just like old times:D
Marco.
lol stop it, you got me looking at tape decks now.
Always fancied a Technics RS-BX707 https://www.cassettedeck.org/technics/rs-bx707/ they seem to be a reasonable price, must be still under the radar.
Lol - I can sense the beginnings of a tape club! Woo-hoo...
Marco.
This is the deck mine is now using the heads from:
https://youtu.be/91ouMwBF1pg
Pretty good track that!:)
Marco.
Yeah, I don't know why that was mate, probably because not many folks use cassette tape, or have much love for it, compared with R2R, but I'm sure I can help change that!;)
Anyway, daftee, is that you back now? You've been missed!!:)
Marco.
Don't keep it yourself Marco :) what was the track and who are the group :scratch:
I too have a cassette deck, a Technics TRS something-or-other, which I bought to recover some tracks from old tapes and convert them to digital for a friend.
Let’s just say that each recording has to go through my remastering suite to bring it up to anything like a modern standard. Fun to play with though. I’d forgotten how many hours I used to spend rewinding tapes. :lol: