Moode Player Help

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Originally Posted by SteveW

Damn...

Went from this last night
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ps4rzaiowv.png

To this first thing this morning.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ps9mw7svlb.png

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Hi Steve,

Very odd.

I notice that "Updating" appears in the Browse button. Is an MPD database update in progress when you press the Library tab button?

Regards,
Tim

@Steve,

I forgot to mention something regarding the really really slow boot time.

If after selecting REBOOT in Moode the "Connecting" page with the big spinner appears and the Browser is left open, Moode sometimes does not reconnect. This can make it seem as if the reboot is taking forever because the Moode UI does not come up. In this case just close the browser tab and open a new one and access Moode afresh. A typical reboot up to the point when Moode UI is available takes < 1 min. Ssh access to Linux on the Pi is usually available < 30 secs.

Regards,
Tim

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Originally Posted by killie99

I think this is a general computer issue rather than a Moode issue. I cannot connect to the gui using http://moode , I have to enter the actual ip address (i downloaded ip Scanner to find out the ip address of the pi). Anyone know what I need to do to fix this?

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Hi Stuart,

The symptom "cannot access by name and must use ip address" suggests a configuration issue in the router or that the router does not include either DNS or mDNS name resolution services.

Moode WebUI is basically a web site accessed via standard http port 80. There are three urls that can be used to access Moode depending on how names are resolved on the network.

(1) http://moode
(2) http://moode.local
(3) http://IP-ADDRESS-OF-PI

For example on my home network, my router, an ASUS RT-N66U, includes a DNS name resolution service that automatically places the host name of the Pi in its database when the Pi receives its ip address from the router. This allows the router to resolve the host name "moode" to its ip address in the url http://moode.

Another approach used by routers is to include a name resolution service called Multicast DNS or mDNS instead of DNS (Unicast DNS). This service performs name resolution for host names with a .local suffix. In this case http://moode.local should work.

Lastly, if name resolution service is not present in the router, the ip address can be used.

Regards,
Tim

Tim

Having played around with both Volumio and RuneAudio, I have to say I'm very impressed with Moode - all sorts of stuff that required fiddling about in the others "just works" in Moode.

The Internet Radio selections are great and nice to have them all pre-setup - especially the Linn and Naim stations. One observation though: the BBC Radio 3 link does not appear to be the HD (320k) stream, but shows up in Audio info as a 128k stream. Any chance this could be changed?

One thing that would make Moode perfect in my opinion - the ability to tell it to play tracks at random from a complete NAS or local USB source.

Great work, Tim!

Rob

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Originally Posted by robtweed

Tim

Having played around with both Volumio and RuneAudio, I have to say I'm very impressed with Moode - all sorts of stuff that required fiddling about in the others "just works" in Moode.

The Internet Radio selections are great and nice to have them all pre-setup - especially the Linn and Naim stations. One observation though: the BBC Radio 3 link does not appear to be the HD (320k) stream, but shows up in Audio info as a 128k stream. Any chance this could be changed?

One thing that would make Moode perfect in my opinion - the ability to tell it to play tracks at random from a complete NAS or local USB source.

Great work, Tim!

Rob

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Hi Rob,

Thanks for the nice compliment! I really appreciate it :-)

The BBC stations are all 128k MP3 streams and not the new 320k HLS streams. Apparently MPD, the music server engine that Moode uses, does not yet have the capability to decode the HLS format. I think the capability will be developed for MPD because there are a lot of UK audio enthusiasts asking for HLS support on various forums.

If you want to try random song play from an entire source, use the Browse panel to add NAS/folder or USB/folder to the Playlist then press the random button on the Playback panel. I'm not sure what the track limit is for the Playlist, but I just tested ~3500 tracks from a test NAS/Music folder. At one point in the past I think I tested successfully at ~ 12K tracks.

The only issue is that the automatic scroll-to function that positions the currently playing item in the Playlist within the viewable area does not seem to work quite right. Another opportunity for bug fixing :-)

Regards,
Tim

Hi Tim.

Would you know why track titles/artists are not displayed whilst listening to BBC channels? Other stations like Jazz Groove display them so just wondered if this is something to do with the station decoding or Moode itself?

Thanks
Josie

Hi,

@robtweed, I forgot how much I enjoy random play. Thanks for bringing it up :-)

Tim

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Originally Posted by The Black Adder

Hi Tim.

Would you know why track titles/artists are not displayed whilst listening to BBC channels? Other stations like Jazz Groove display them so just wondered if this is something to do with the station decoding or Moode itself?

Thanks
Josie

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Hi Jo,

Its because the station does not include the "Title" metadata tag in its stream. If a station includes the Title tag its usually formatted as "Album - Song Title" like you see when playing The Jazz Groove. Other stations just stuff the song title in the "Title" tag. When a station does not include the Title tag, Moode just displays the station URL.

The reason radio stations don't include some or any metadata in their streams has to do with the type of streaming software they use and whether they have a process for providing the metadata.

Actually, the logic in Moode for dealing with radio station metadata is pretty complex because stations don't follow the rules and do all sorts of bad things with metadata.

Regards,
Tim

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Originally Posted by TimCurtis

Hi Jo,

Its because the station does not include the "Title" metadata tag in its stream. If a station includes the Title tag its usually formatted as "Album - Song Title" like you see when playing The Jazz Groove. Other stations just stuff the song title in the "Title" tag. When a station does not include the Title tag, Moode just displays the station URL.

The reason radio stations don't include some or any metadata in their streams has to do with the type of streaming software they use and whether they have a process for providing the metadata.

Actually, the logic in Moode for dealing with radio station metadata is pretty complex because stations don't follow the rules and do all sorts of bad things with metadata.

Regards,
Tim

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Ah.. I see.

Thanks Tim. Sorry for the questions but, how come my DAB radio displays information on BBC channels? Is that something totally different?

Thanks
Jo

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Originally Posted by The Black Adder

Ah.. I see.

Thanks Tim. Sorry for the questions but, how come my DAB radio displays information on BBC channels? Is that something totally different?

Thanks
Jo

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Hi Jo,

I'm not familiar with "DAB radio" but after reading about it, DAB sounds somewhat similar to the XM/Sirius and HD Radio digital broadcast systems in the States. XM/Sirius is a subscription based over-the-air digital broadcast systems, and HD radio is the digital equivalent of analog FM radio. The market for these systems is primarily car audio.

The stations DAB and Internet broadcasts would likely be using separate streaming systems. The DAB system is including metadata.

Regards,
Tim