Spinning Today - What Are You Listening To Right Now? (Part 3)

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Originally Posted by AJSki2fly

Not really, they were psychedelic at the time and were experimenting, and most of their songs were not that long. It is generally accepted that In the Court of the Crimson King by King Crimson was the first officially sited prog rock album in 1969, mainly because it had clear cross over with its use of jazz chords and extended song structures and odd song structures.Even early Genesis did not fall into the prog rock domain, until their second album. Apart from Yes, later Pink Floyd, Deep Purple and others one band often overlooked and a main driver in prog rock was and still is Hawkwind. Often dubbed as space rock mainly due to their material a lot of it is very much in the prog rock vein.

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Na The Nice 2nd album 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis' was a prog album, that was released in 1968. Bands at this time that are crossing over were generally labled as Proto Progressive. Prog in the making. The first Nice album maybe a bit poppy but the transition is there . The same would had for King Crimson who were Giles, Giles & Fripp previously. The album 'Cheerful Insanity of' was nothing like 'In the Court.. Sorry but The Nice 2nd album well pre dates KC's, .. Even The Nice 3rd album was being recorded around the same time as KC first.. So how can that be so..

Was progressive pop before any. Lol

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Originally Posted by struth

Was progressive pop before any. Lol

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No progressive Pop. There was Psych & Pop Psych. An example of British pop Psych would be a band called The World of Oz .. pop Psych is what it says pop music with Psych basis. However saying that 'The World of Oz' album is very good & has some non poppy stuff on it too

Wa what they called it back in 67. Not for long but everything was changing back then. I was more into blues and my beloved zep

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Originally Posted by Made in 1968

Na The Nice 2nd album 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis' was a prog album, that was released in 1968. Bands at this time that are crossing over were generally labled as Proto Progressive. Prog in the making. The first Nice album maybe a bit poppy but the transition is there . The same would had for King Crimson who were Giles, Giles & Fripp previously. The album 'Cheerful Insanity of' was nothing like 'In the Court.. Sorry but The Nice 2nd album well pre dates KC's, .. Even The Nice 3rd album was being recorded around the same time as KC first.. So how can that be so..

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On reflection you are probably right. however back then it was not quite as clear, the prog rock label I don’t remember appearing until early 70’s just after I started buying albums. In the prog rock bin you would find led Zep, Deep Purple. Nice, moody Blues, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Pink Fairies, Tull, King Crimson, Van de Griff, Greenslade, Hawkwind even Roxy Music and others. Some shops would have separate psychedelic rock section as well.

Prog rock seemed to be all the non main stream stuff which was difficult to categorise at the time. Later hard rock and heavy metal appeared, and art rock.


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There was no Rock on the end of Prog back in the day it was not even termed 'Prog' it was just called 'Progressive Music' & the whole reason British spin off Labels such as Harvest [EMI], Swirl Vertigo [Phonogram], Neon [RCA] Deram/Nova [Decca] etc were created was for this new music form. The only major Brit label i can think of that did not do this were Island Records, home of ELP & King Crimson, Progressive music back then was indeed hard to Categorise being a culmination of other styles of Music but predominantly Jazz influenced with most bands. As for Heavy Rock, Well the pioneering Hard Rock bands such as Black Sabbath we actually on a Progressive label as were equally as heavy if not more so: Warhorse [Simper Ex Deep Purple]. However with Purple the first three albums [Evans/Simper] were originally signed to Tetragamaton in the USA & were Proto Progressive band at the time. Many people did not even realise they had made three early albums till they were re-issued in the UK under the Harvest inprint.. The Heavy Rock thing did not happen till the 5th album: 'In Rock' That & 'Machine Head' were what people Knew the Band for, not the early stuff.

Even though most fans favour Material from around '1973; Im afraid that it was coming to the end of the true progressive period by then, the only surviving bands of the genre were getting a bit to self indulgent for their own good, in fact quite an embarrassment in the process & its these latter offerings that paved way to people taking the piss out of them.

There were literally Hundreds of Prog bands from the period late 60's to 1972, the majority of early bands made an album or two before disappearing without a trace, without leaving any impression, It was not a favourable music genre back then, its only later on with fresh as well as new ears that the general public have discovered the music making it a somewhat of a Legacy, but as ive argued many times before this somewhat re hash of the genre is nothing like it used to be back then, I even cringe when i see the word Prog attached to the utter shit excuse for music. The only survivors of this music form either sold out to pop tunes [Genesis] or diversified completely. That was the final nail in the coffin imho..

Well that is not quite how I remember it, the record shops I frequented in Southampton, Alton, Farnham and Guildford from 69 onwards all had a section labelled either progressive, progressive rock or prog. rock(whether that was recognised or not back then), I was generalising when used the Prog. Rock term, And as I said earlier all sorts of bands were lumped into the “Progressive” label/bucket, I just picked out the better known ones.

Out of interest how old were you in 1970?

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