The Mike New Technics Bearing

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Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L

Thank you Robert, there is a Funk Firm Technics review and a Technics PSU review there as well.

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Thinking about it I definitely read the PSU one which was also excellent. If I'm right you mentioned you'd have liked to have had the triple stage regulator modules at the time to test with Paul Hynes's SR7.
Again, that was a pretty comprehensive review of various psu's. A lot of work and effort - absolutely! and good on you, much appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Packgrog

Hardly upset. Your success or not means nothing to me.

I just find it embarrassing seeing a supposed professional so easily threatened by a diy project that they need to inject no-so-subtle digs into every comment made. It makes me question whether your product is actually any good either. You clearly have too little faith in it.

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I echo these sentiments completely.
In my experience, there is nothing professional about Mike's products or his service. His products are hobbyist quality at best; by no means the 'precision' engineered products he claims them to be. The only decent part of his bearing is the bit he doesn't actually make himself.
I have previously owned Mike's products and used them at great length. However, (along with at least two other members of this forum that I know of) I no longer use or support his products.
His attitude to the competition is disgusting but in my experience not at all surprising. I am proud not to own anything of his and wish his competitors the very best.

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Originally Posted by aniki

I echo these sentiments completely.
In my experience, there is nothing professional about Mike's products or his service. His products are hobbyist quality at best; by no means the 'precision' engineered products he claims them to be. The only decent part of his bearing is the bit he doesn't actually make himself.
I have previously owned Mike's products and used them at great length. However, (along with at least two other members of this forum that I know of) I no longer use or support his products.
His attitude to the competition is disgusting but in my experience not at all surprising. I am proud not to own anything of his and wish his competitors the very best.

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Folks lets keep this respectful and lets try to keep heat out of it.

As I recall aniki had some issues which were not resolved to his satisfaction and that has coloured his views. My own views are that Mikes products are of similar and better quality to others after market Technics products, and thus I am happy to use them.

To slag his bearing off is grossly unfair. It is the equal of the Funk re fit and finish (though its a very different design and uses different materials) and better than any others I have to date handled and tried. The bearing is a wonderful bit of kit and in my system the best bearing I have tried todate. I have not had an ETP platter in my system, but I do own a metal one and it is well made.

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

I am just telling it the way it is.
What happens when the brass insert in your modified bearing starts to wear as they all do.
will you put your head in the sand and pretend it's not happening??
If you prefer not to invest in a properly designed and engineered Bearing, then that is OK with me.
I am only trying to save people from spending their hard saved cash.
The vast majority of people who have my bearing have read and listened to what I have had to say in the past
and have embraced my advice.

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Here's a way of getting the same point across without coming across as petty:

"There is a flaw in the design of X. The brass insert will eventually begin to wear, as is common to that type of design. I have addressed this weakness in my own design. The price point of the less-expensive model has a trade-off in longevity."

No slagging of competitors, no demeaning of people who have purchased from them, no strangely defensive self-aggrandizement, while still conveying useful information about the differences in design.

Excuse me everyone but according to Mike New, 'the brass insert will eventually begin to wear', what part of the bearing is he talking about here?

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Originally Posted by Mikeandvan

Excuse me everyone but according to Mike New, 'the brass insert will eventually begin to wear', what part of the bearing is he talking about here?

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I kind of wondered about that myself, given that most other comments on the stock bearing have only really been critical of the thrust plate smoothness and the tendency for oil to not stay in the contact point. But I find it more difficult to pick out the science from the opinions and egos.

I think Mike may have meant to say 'bronze' actually. I'd guess that would be the tubular collared bearing insert that fits into the brass outer housing. If you look at the photo, the insert has a slightly more red colour than the brass components.

Thank you all for your support, especially the kind remarks of aniki he does like me!!
The Brass insert I refer to is the central piece into which fits the spindle and forms the lateral support.
It is not possible to get oil to stay on the surface of a plain bearing such as this when operating in the vertical mode.
The oil just drains away down the spindle and out the other end, resulting in the spindle running "dry" after a few days
which is why I guess the whole bearing becomes loose after a while due to wear.

Merry Christmas All - my MN Bearing is still going strong after 4+ years - I guess I'd better oil it.