Hahahaha...
Barry, I can't believe you've just posted that at the same time as I was thinking the exact same thing!! :lol:
Marco.
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Hahahaha...
Barry, I can't believe you've just posted that at the same time as I was thinking the exact same thing!! :lol:
Marco.
I did!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
AoS must be fostering Jungian synchronicity! It's not the first time this has happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
LOL. Trust me, Barry, you're far from being the first person who's thought that!
I'd been using the Lockwoods directly onto the floor until today when Ian visited (as they were far too heavy to lift on my own onto the Soundbases), and they sounded great there, but after setting them up on the Mana supports their performance has moved up several more notches, not least due to the fact that I can now get them bang-on level on my rather uneven suspended wooden floor - well the house dates from 1887, so most things are a bit skew-whiff!
Anyway, yet further proof that Mana works in its intended application :)
Marco.
Firstly, Tannoys have excellent dispersion, so they don't have to be perfectly level (unless you are fussy about such things). Secondly, getting them off the floor must help a bit. Thirdly, I bet a pile of books sounds better than Mana :D
By the way Marco - what are you going to do with the Spendors? Someone on the Yahoo Spendor groups site wanted some S or SP100's. I could put you in touch.......
Hi Dave,
No argument there!Quote:
Firstly, Tannoys have excellent dispersion...
Well I *am* very fussy about such things, as I am with all issues of system set-up. Attention to detail can often make the difference between a system which is merely good, and one which sounds truly fabulous.Quote:
...so they don't have to be perfectly level (unless you are fussy about such things).
Trust me, if you had been there yesterday and heard the 'before and after' results, on and off of Mana, you'd not be making these silly comments!! :eyebrows: ;)
Oh it definitely did!Quote:
Secondly, getting them off the floor must help a bit.
That one doesn't even deserve a reply! :lol:Quote:
Thirdly, I bet a pile of books sounds better than Mana
The Spendors were traded-in as part of the deal for the Lockwoods.Quote:
By the way Marco - what are you going to do with the Spendors? Someone on the Yahoo Spendor groups site wanted some S or SP100's. I could put you in touch.......
Marco.
I'm not in the habit of making silly comments (!) and if the mana changes the sound so much, I'd suggest there's something awry going on (the 30" jobbies killed some ATC's I know well, and a long gone poster on PFM used some to cancel out bass vibration in the floor with the similar ATC model).
Anyway, glad you're enjoying the Tannoys
See I told you that you needed to keep your Mana speaker stands (get rid of them...I don't think so).....the D S D L all ways (mostly) knows best ;):lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Regards D S D L
Dave, my dear fellow, no offence, but I can find no other way of interpreting your comments regarding Mana as anything but other than silly! :eyebrows:Quote:
I'm not in the habit of making silly comments (!) and if the mana changes the sound so much, I'd suggest there's something awry going on (the 30" jobbies killed some ATC's I know well, and a long gone poster on PFM used some to cancel out bass vibration in the floor with the similar ATC model).
You should know me by now and how 'serious' I am - do you think that I'm using 32 levels of the stuff under my equipment for the good of my health or because I'm seduced by its 'aesthetic loveliness?' Oh, and I haven't been 'brainwashed' either ;)
The stuff WORKS - period. And that includes under speakers... There's nothing "awry" going on whatsoever; merely that the speakers now have a better 'floor' than before (read as more rigid and level), from being supported on the Soundbases, which is very important on my dodgy, uneven, old suspended wooden floor, in my dodgy, uneven old lodge house! :lolsign:
It was the same with the Spendors, too: remove the Mana supports and the sound completely fell apart compared to how it was on Mana (although if you had only experienced the effect of 'standard' speaker stands, you'd never know what was missing), mainly because the system is in a relatively small room with a 'dodgy' suspended wooden floor, so something effective must be done to help eradicate the 'challenges' and make big speakers work properly. This is perfectly understandable and easily demonstrable in my years of experience of using properly designed equipment supports and speaker stands and comparing them to something rather more inferior in terms of its design principles and the effectiveness of such.
With respect, I've heard your tale a million times of how 'Mana once destroyed some ATCs' - I won't begin to guess what multitude of variables combined to cause that unfortunate effect, but what rips my knitting ever so slightly is when people form definitive, 'dyed-in-the-wool', conclusions about something based on one bad experience (or not much more than that), without allowing for an innumerable amount of reasons why that 'thing they didn't like' didn't work in that particular application, and then proceed to narrow-mindedly rubbish 'that thing' for the rest of their lives!
There's a guy over on pfm called Cliff Patterson (username 'Cliffepatte') who, based on one experience of hearing a heavily Mana'd set-up perform badly at hi-fi show in Bristol in 2000, is on a blinkered one-man mission to slate/disparage Mana (both the product and the company, now defunct of course) at every available opportunity, mainly because JW once called him 'a twat' on the old Mana forum. It's this level of stubborn, illogical prejudice that acts like a cancer on audio forums; where people's jaundiced opinions are allowed go unchallenged and influence the gullible who can't think for themselves. I will never allow that to happen here.
Now....... I'm not saying you're like that, heaven forbid, but I think it's very important when expressing an opinion about something in hi-fi to always look at the bigger picture and retain an open mind. I’ve already made you eat your words about the M3D, and I promise that when you visit I'll do the same with Mana, too!! :ner:
Marco.
Absolutomondo, Daphne! :eyebrows:Quote:
See I told you that you needed to keep your Mana speaker stands (get rid of them...I don't think so).....the D S D L all ways (mostly) knows best
However, I'm only keeping the extra-wide Soundbases that I'm using under the Lockwoods - the rest, which was under the Spendors, is up for sale simply because I no longer have a use for it.
Marco.