used to call the sumliminal cuts.... i dont watch ads so im pretty immune ...but if i watch one, im off to mcdonalds straight away:eyebrows:
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used to call the sumliminal cuts.... i dont watch ads so im pretty immune ...but if i watch one, im off to mcdonalds straight away:eyebrows:
yeah, we are not that old. :ner:Quote:
Originally Posted by walpurgis
It's not subliminal advertising! You tell I me that I don't understand marketing or advertising and yet you don't know enough about the subject to even make that distinction. And then you complain that I'm the one 'not getting it.' Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
I found this old article on the BBC website about an experiment with subliminal advertising:Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30878843
which concluded that subliminal advertising's effect is minimal, at best, and very short-lived.
Yes, as patently you're not. So let's just leave it there and discuss the subject again in person, where there'll be less room for any confusion..
Marco.
they were not as successful at selling ice cream in cinemas as turning up the thermostat:eyebrows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Well, I guess that all depends on how often or how successfully it's been done, and over how long a period of time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
I always find the notion of remaining 'loyal' to a certain brand name or product fascinating (more common than you might think, and often occurring subconsciously), as in that respect, I'm largely a complete tart!;)
Marco.
As far as supermarket shopping goes, I tend to get mostly 'own brand' stuff, unless there's a good offer on, and for 'generic' stuff like kitchen foil, I get the most basic. We stocked up on Kenco coffee about six months ago (reduced from £6 to £4 at Sainsbury's), and we're still working our way through it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
I just buy stuff that I like. Does anyone do any differently?
I didn't realise there was a hierarchy of kitchen foil. How is basic kitchen foil different from a more expensive brand? I suppose you might get a longer roll.
me too.. i often buy dearer stuff coz its usually better... lifes too short to get shite if you dont have to... like whisky, i could but cheap stuff or i can buy good stuff that costs 2 or 3 times more...Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Yes I agree, don't see the point in penny-pinching for the sake of it. Had to do it when I was poor of course. I'll only buy the cheap stuff if I really can't tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
No worries. Well, in terms of makes of things, with us, it's pretty much an unknown quantity until we get there, and usually ends up being just what we fancy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
"Offers" rarely interest us [we're not tight-wads like you, lol;)], unless it's something we really like and use a lot of, which doesn't apply to much, as we get bored buying the same things... We like to experiment by trying new things and alternate what we buy. Creatures of habit we're not!:nono:
Marco.
You're somewhat a creature of habit though, no?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
And if so, you'll be predisposed to largely buying the same things all the time, and so indirectly displaying a form of 'brand loyalty'.
Marco.
arn't we all, to a point tho.. you probably shop in same places.. lidl, family butcher etc
if there's nothing else to go on or I can't be arsed to research it then I'll buy a brand that I generally rate. For example I had Sony cellphones for a long time as I've no real interest in cellphones but I reckon Sony are a reliable brand and that's my only concern with a phone. So that is a sort of brand loyalty but also based on some personal experience. I bought a Sony A/V amp for the same reason. And a Sony telly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Although my latest telly is an LG and I just got a Samsung phone, with the telly that was based on what was going cheap as a bin-end though. With the phone it was because it was only an extra £2 a month on the contract instead of an extra £15 or something for an iPhone thing.
Otherwise if I had to name a brand I am 'loyal' to in any serious way I don't think I could.
Yes, but that's not brands. That's what I'm referring to, in terms of being a 'creature of habit'. In terms of brand-named goods, or even non-branded ones (i.e supermarket own), we rarely buy the same things twice, and if we do, it's probably pure coincidence!Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
Anyway, just had a ruby delivered, so gonna scoff that now:D
Marco.
Same thing in long run. Brand loyalty, shop loyalty etc. I buy good stuff if I can afford it. It it stops being good stuff then I stop buying it.. Same with shops
Not really, as my point was mainly about brand loyalty, which is something that's generally more of a deliberate choice. Most folk, including us, tend to shop most often at the supermarket nearest to where they live, not through any sense of 'loyalty' to a specific one.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
The reason we're using Lidl now more than ever (as opposed to Asda, which is nearer) is because of the queues caused by social distancing at all the 'majors' [Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury's, etc], which are virtually absent in Lidl or Aldi. If we see a huge queue outside of *any* of them, then we bolt and come back later when it's quieter.
Yes, we like the produce and products sold in the two German stores, for reasons you know well, but we don't shop there through any sense of 'loyalty', or out of habit either. In normal times, we like to vary where we buy our food, so we have access to a much wider choice of goods, including trips to local farm shops.
In that respect, we normally pop to the Waitrose in Chester at least once a month, but that's over 10 miles away, so currently a no-no, and also used to go to M&S in Wrexham at least once a week, including regular trips to Asda and Sainsbury's [occasionally Morrisons], but haven't bothered as with the current situation, in terms of supermarkets, we're restricting ourselves to a 'one-stop shop'.
Honestly, mate, our shopping habits are based almost entirely on our mood, on the spur of the moment:cool:
No creatures of habit here!
Marco.
Dont have a waitrose here. Have the rest tho. I'm inclined to shop where I fancy. Well, before the shit..
Been getting frozen stuff mostly, and will keep a lot of it going when it changes.
The Italian stuff, I will likely use again too.
M and S I like, the sainsbury's I guess, but no loyalty personally.
They do stuff I like tho so use them while they do
Fairy muff:)
Marco.
I’m glad to say after reading recent pages of this thread that I know myself to be completely impervious to any subliminal messages.
Although I really fancy a Maccy D’s right now and have no idea why...
:lolsign:
See, SEE - told ya!! :D
Marco.
It's a pity you've made your last comment on this subject my friend, but then this is my last word on it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Your posts have been uncharacteristically wordy, and I know you're frustrated about your point being missed, but I have to say that finding that point is not unlike studying a 'Where's Wally?' puzzle book :ner:
The part I've highlighted in bold: that's not subliminal advertising, it's called 'product placement'. It is increasingly being used in films and TV, ranging from McCann frozen foods in Emmerdale, to Audi cars in The Dark Night or Iron Man, I can't remember which. This is the advertisers' best chance as the traditional ad breaks are rarely seen these days, thanks to the ability for viewers to quickly skip past them.
Talking about product placement, I recently did a poo in the shape of a big letter 'M', but it still didn't persuade me to visit McDonalds :nono:
I don't subscribe to any brand loyalty or shop loyalty - I really don't care where I buy my HP sauce. And believe me when I tell you, that if HP started being shit I definitely would be looking elsewhere.
I don't buy HP out of habit, but because other brands (I've tried one or two) have been disappointing, and anyway my motto is if it ain't broke...
Yes, but that's just the latest 'buzz word'! So ask yourself, what potential effect could such "product placement" have on those who've seen it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
It subconsciously 'plants a seed' in their minds, with the purpose of predisposing them to buying said product at a later date... *Exactly* the same potential effect as subliminal advertising!!:ner:
Same end result, just different words.
Now THAT *IS* defo my last post on the subject!
Marco.
P.S I named my 11 o'clock poo this morning after you.
What, you called your poo 'Awesome Ste'? I'm flattered :) Apparently lots of people think of me to 'get things started'Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Bacofoil is the brand name people recognise, but foil is foil, unless you're wrapping a huge turkey and need extra-wide foil. There's stuff where the basic version is shite (eg beer and gin), but Sainsbury's breakfast cereal is just as good as Kellogg's, to my taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Yeah man, I can see that - like a dose of the runs:eyebrows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
Marco.
Not really... Whilst I agree with your point in general [and you're right about turkey] and certainly don't believe in paying more just for a 'fancy name' (for ANYTHING), foil thickness can vary depending on who makes it, and sometimes how much it costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Admittedly, there's generally not much difference, in that respect, (if any) between 'Bacofoil' and the likes of Sainsbury's own. However, certain 'specialist' brands, such as this stuff from Lakeland, is genuinely thicker and stronger [and obviously that's better as it'll rip less easily], but you'll pay for it: https://i.ytimg.com/an_webp/ZZmWfvLG...iAUr6XCclJDX2A
Btw, just so there's no confusion, I had to ask Del to answer that one, in case you thought that I was some sad bastard authority on tinfoil!:eek::D
Marco.
I'd have thought you'd insist on the best tinfoil for your hats!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Ha - I was waiting on that one!
Marco.
Just bought me a 'new' landline telephone:
https://i.imgur.com/ZatWGZM.jpg
Unfortunately that design of phone is the exact same as the one I used at work back in the late 70s/early 80s, and is thus slightly depressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I rather like the old telephones. I bought an original 70s Trimphone a couple of years ago, looked great but I soon got fed up with the rotary dial. Also problems arose when phoning anywhere with a menu system, no buttons to choose an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Looks nice. What make/model is it?
S.
I like the styling of those old phones - but I also like to have caller ID and the ability to store numbers which I can 'dial' with a few key strokes.
Also. as Ian has said, there is no provision for dealing with menu systems. Could they not have included both a * and # key?
I was tempted by one of the old bakelite efforts but decided I couldn't face the rigours of the rotary dial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian7633
I don't know, just billed as late 70d/early 80s GPO. Might be a model number on it, I'll have a look when it arrives.Quote:
Originally Posted by southall-1998_mk2
I very rarely use my landline so not really an issue and I avoid calling places with a menu system like the plague. Obviously it predates the horror that was the introduction of menu systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
It's just for emergencies in case the network is down or my mobile packs in or something. The phone it is replacing is only a couple of years younger than this one (A Southwestern Bell Telecom FA300) but the membrane below its rubber keypad has almost perished. You can still dial but you have to press the buttons really hard, ideally with a biro or something, and that was getting a little tedious.
I always have it switched off to incoming calls anyway as the only calls I get are from people trying to sell me some crap. But I did want something that looks a bit anachronistic.
Was tempted by some of the fancy 1990s Scandinavian jobs like B&O but your talking about paying £150 or more and I decided that was a bit silly. Anyway, just a bit of fun.
Just arrived home from Work :)
Morning, daftee... Just out my bed!:D
How was work?
Marco.
Lovin' ya retro phone, Macca! It looks a bit complicated to use, though....
Quite right. That's why I'd never give up our landline. Aside from anything else about networks, it's so easy to forget to charge a mobile phone, and if you're using it all the time (especially performing tasks that drain the battery), it's difficult to maintain a constant high level of charge, unless you're very vigilant. Plus also easy to misplace the charger. And you may only have the one mobile phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Therefore, unless you're careful, it wouldn't be difficult for one day, especially if you live on your own, to need the phone for a GENUINE (possibly life-threatening) emergency, and discover that the battery is nearly flat and you can't find the charger! Don't dismiss such a scenario, as it could easily happen...
So no, for that reason, and also the fact that you often lose signal with mobile phones when you're talking to someone at home, and have to wander around to escape black spots, plus voices sound so thin and tinny that everyone sounds like robots [landline handsets are generally much clearer], we'll always have a landline.
The biro thing is really funny, and typically *you*! :D Me? I'd have replaced it as soon as it was faulty!
Marco.
Actually the recent cellphones are astonishingly good in terms of the sound quality - in 'phone terms anyway. I was very surprised at the clarity when I got a 'modern' cell after almost ten years with the same one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
I did replace the landline 'phone before when it started to become difficult to dial on it. I think I spent ten quid on a second-hand one off of ebay. It packed up about a month after I got it so I put the old one back in and sat a biro next to it and the problem got shoved down my list of priorities by other things.
I did have a look at some new ones in Maplins a few months later but they were both expensive and looked crappy so I shelved the idea. I might use the thing maybe twice a year so it was hardly a pressing issue.
I've never had a problem with losing the signal or having to wander about to get a connection on a mobile in a long time. I think about 1996 or '97 was the last time I had that issue and that was when they were still rolling out the network.
I'd never lose this phone charger :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Marco
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0e34a0ded7.jpg
Dartford to SevenoaksQuote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Sevenoaks to Dartford
Dartford to Sevenoaks agin ( Half load ) then onto Maidstone , Then back to Darfford , All in 8 hours , Then told to go home so a early finish
Helping to feed the nation :ner:
Good stuff... The only time I'm near Dartford is when on the way down to Dover in the car on holiday, and doing the crossing!
Marco.
I don't get it... Are you saying that your sofa doubles as a phone charger?:scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy S
Marco.
It will have a USB port built inQuote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Fair enough, but not in my experience. Del's brand new Huawei has a superb camera on it, but voices sound considerably tinnier than on the landline handset, when I use the speakerphone. Stands to reason really, as (just with hi-fi) you can't beat the laws of physics. Both the size of the speaker and the enclosure on the landline handset is much bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
There's no comparison in the sound quality really.
Lol - no worries. It suits your gaff, though!:)Quote:
I did replace the landline 'phone before when it started to become difficult to dial on it. I think I spent ten quid on a second-hand one off of ebay. It packed up about a month after I got it so I put the old one back in and sat a biro next to it and the problem got shoved down my list of priorities by other things.
I did have a look at some new ones in Maplins a few months later but they were both expensive and looked crappy so I shelved the idea. I might use the thing maybe twice a year so it was hardly a pressing issue.
Different here then, and I'm not exactly in an area where there's poor coverage. On the rare occasions I use my mobile in the house, quite often when I'm holding it listening to someone, I've got to change ears, move my head or position in the chair, or get up altogether and walk around, to stop them cutting out. Does my nut in!Quote:
I've never had a problem with losing the signal or having to wander about to get a connection on a mobile in a long time. I think about 1996 or '97 was the last time I had that issue and that was when they were still rolling out the network.
Marco.
Yes, usb charging socket both ends where the powered recliner controls are [emoji41]Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c336a97ad4.jpg