Lol... And you don't see that as a problem? Moi? I happen to enjoy that pesky treble and bass stuff, too!! :eyebrows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
;)
Marco.
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Lol... And you don't see that as a problem? Moi? I happen to enjoy that pesky treble and bass stuff, too!! :eyebrows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
;)
Marco.
But not at the expense of the midrange - that's where most of the music is. Anyway I did say when partnered with "appropriate speakers".Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Soz, dude. I've heard them with ESL57s, and they still didn't do it for me... Yes, I get the midrange thing, but they still sound soft, rolled off and lack real guts. Ask Anthony TD what he thinks of Quad IIs, sonically and technically (as he's worked on 100s of them), and he'll tell you some eye-opening stuff! ;)
Regardless though, if you like Quad IIs, then fair enough. I certainly couldn't live with them :)
Marco.
Well I doubt if I would consider a pair now, but I have heard them working well into speakers of similar vintage. I am aware of the design considerations made by Peter Walker - in particular the deliberate limitation of bass delivery so as to protect the Quad 57 from damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Yup, I can certainly hear the 'limited bass delivery'! :eyebrows:
Anyway, it's all a personal taste thing. I need a valve amplifier that can play all genres of music (from throbbing metal to chamber music) with equal aplomb, and crucially, at 'realistic levels' without falling apart, and that excels in all areas of the frequency spectrum, which is why I use what I do, and not Quad IIs ;)
Sorry, Barry, I know you're somewhat of a Quad fan, but I simply have to be honest :)
Marco.
I'm yet to have the pleasure but it seems to boil down to musical taste [as we were saying last night RE ditton 44's] Maybe great with music of the period ? I mean, I can't think of anything even approaching "throbbing metal" from 1952 :D
That's part of the problem for me, James: I have such a wide and diverse taste in music, and listen to everything from Rachmaninov to Rammstein, that an amplifier (or system) which only excels in reproducing certain types of music (or certain areas of the frequency range) is of no use to me whatsoever...! ;)
Marco.
Cant argue with that. Likewise here, choral one minute & metal the next.
My expanding taste in music is what ruined "flat earth" for me... Thats a real one trick pony, makes Pink Floyd & Dire Straits sound fantastic but anything else ? Nah.
A pair of HF2000's alone sell for £100 most of the time... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Celestion-...item4d210a7403
I like the aesthetic but wonder how that single Saba driver sounds ?! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Sc...item25926d50cd