Fidelity to what? Or what are we tying to achieve with all our expensive gear?

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Originally Posted by The Barbarian

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One being i personally have no place in this hobby as a music lover because i cannot listen to my music now

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Don't understand why you can't listen to your music now, Andre.
If it's just about enjoying music then the system, with or without tone controls, is just a means to an end and not a fetish.

& that is my last post on AOS

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Originally Posted by The Barbarian

& that is my last post on AOS

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Seems a shame to quit posting over something so minor Andr'e ? Hopefully you'll come back after cooling off :cool:

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Originally Posted by istari_knight

Seems a shame to quit posting over something so minor Andr'e ? Hopefully you'll come back after cooling off :cool:

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Agreed, I always find Andre's posts an interesting and entertaining read.

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& that is my last post on AOS

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Again! Come on Andre, We all like having you around. :)

Yes, don't abandon us Andr'e. We like your input and you're an important part of AOS! :)

I've never found tone controls to be of much use: the Baxandall design of tone controls is too crude to be effective, and the range of 'cut' and 'boost' far too large (as much as +/- 12dB). Most of the preamplifiers I have used have a tone control "defeat" switch, whereby the tone control circuit is bypassed, and these days the pramplifiers I use are devoid of such controls.

The only tone control circuit design I have found to be useful (on the rare occasion), is the "Tilt" feature of the Quad 44 (and later designs). With this control, the whole frequency spectrum can be tilted about 1KHz either up or down by +/- 1, 2 or 3dB. The latter is too much, but I have found tilting the response up by +1dB can help with rather "thick" - sounding recordings. Not a panacea by any means, but occasionally useful.

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Originally Posted by walpurgis

Yes, don't abandon us Andr'e. We like your input and you're an important part of AOS! :)

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He will be back! Just give him time.

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Originally Posted by REXTON

He will be back! Just give him time.

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True. I think his latest departure was about due anyway...

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Originally Posted by Barry

I've never found tone controls to be of much use: the Baxandall design of tone controls is too crude to be effective, and the range of 'cut' and 'boost' far too large (as much as +/- 12dB). Most of the preamplifiers I have used have a tone control "defeat" switch, whereby the tone control circuit is bypassed, and these days the pramplifiers I use are devoid of such controls.

The only tone control circuit design I have found to be useful (on the rare occasion), is the "Tilt" feature of the Quad 44 (and later designs). With this control, the whole frequency spectrum can be tilted about 1KHz either up or down by +/- 1, 2 or 3dB. The latter is too much, but I have found tilting the response up by +1dB can help with rather "thick" - sounding recordings. Not a panacea by any means, but occasionally useful.

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My Quad 34 has 'bass lift' and 'tilt' controls, but I always prefer them both to be set flat (that's with Avalon NP2.0 speakers).