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John

25-02-2011, 22:16

I got the Salvation up and running pictures to follow over the weekend
At the moment I am just letting it run so it all beds in

Ali Tait

25-02-2011, 22:19

Great stuff John, like to hear your impressions and some pics when you get the chance.

Clive

25-02-2011, 23:27

:cool:

Alex_UK

26-02-2011, 00:15

Gosh - I bet you are one excited chappy! Look forward to the pics and your views. Enjoy it John - I'm sure you will!

Welder

26-02-2011, 00:16

That’s great John. I hope it brings you years of pleasure.
It looks a fantastic piece of equipment and if I still had vinyl I would be jealous ;)

The Grand Wazoo

26-02-2011, 00:18

I'm interested to hear how you get on with this John, although I don't think what you hear is going to be a total surprise as you seem to have been getting regular doses of what's in store at Vic & Clive's systems.
Just out of interest, what's the turn-around time from order to delivery on one of these?

MartinT

26-02-2011, 00:18

Very nice, John. What cartridge & phono stage are you running?

John

26-02-2011, 06:33

Well the Cartridge is a London Super gold and phonostage is a modified EAR which Vic has kindly lent me, until I can afford the Nighthawk
This is the first production model so I am not sure what the real turn around time will be, but you buying a bespoke TT so either it night take just a few weeks or a lot longer
I only heard it for a very short time and first very early intial impression is the Transiant attack and its going to be hard listening to my digital based system

John

26-02-2011, 14:41

Here are a few pictures
http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u327/Johnj_013/26022011042.jpg
http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u327/Johnj_013/26022011038.jpg
I will add some more latter

Beechwoods

26-02-2011, 14:45

That's looking good John. I'm looking forward to hearing about how it sounds!

flapland

26-02-2011, 14:51

chris@panteg

26-02-2011, 14:53

Congrats John .

Does look good , linear tracking with a Decca super gold :)

John

26-02-2011, 15:02

Thanks everyone I am listening to Nick Drake the music is totally effortless At the moment I want to give it a good few days before I post my thoughs in detail but will keep adding pictures

John

26-02-2011, 15:06

John that looks the business and the platter looks like it spin for ever with all of that mass. We will have to catch up on how its going at or on the way back from Scalford.

I am on leave on the Monday after Scalford if you fancy arranging a session for the London crowd.

Now go and take some more pictures for us all.

Lets chat about that on the way back
The mass really helps but the torque from the motor really is the key here to overcoming the effects of stylus drag and giving a rock solid platform

Clive

26-02-2011, 15:16

John, this TT was always going to suit you! The mods towards the end of development took Salvation from being a very, very good TT at an incredible price to a totally amazing TT at the same incredible price. I look forward to your further observations but in the meantime......ENJOY.

John

26-02-2011, 15:20

Yes agree Clive and at the moment its about just sinking into the music

Clive

26-02-2011, 15:21

John

26-02-2011, 15:37

Cheers Clive I like the new avatar

The Vinyl Adventure

27-02-2011, 07:56

Blimey... I'd really like one of these one day ... Just on what it looks like ad much as anything else!
Have fun John!!

Doak

28-02-2011, 17:42

When your ears are accustomed to the sound you may want to look at tweaking the input impedance of the EAR. With the Reference and Jubilee 33k loading and even down towards 18k works better than 47k - the Super Gold has the same internals and stylus as the Jubilee.

Hi Clive,

I'm also using this cartridge with a modified EAR834P.
Very curious as to what changes in sound one might expect with the reduced load.

Thanks for the detailed review/write up on the Salvation/Terminator.
Very informative.

Regards,
Doak

Clive

28-02-2011, 18:18

Hi Doak,

Reducing the load will drop the treble a little and add weight & solidity to the bass. 33k is what London recommend as ideal and when you look at the theory 33k is about right. It's not a huge difference but I prefer these lower impedances. It should be quite easy to try, you either replace the resistor across the input (I've not looked inside the EAR) or find somewhere to add a 110k in paraelle (47k // with 110k = 33k), could be in the phono plugs for a quick test.

Cheers,

Clive

John

28-02-2011, 19:07

Hi Doak
Welcome to AOS
It's a pleasure to have you here
Do you mind introducing yourself in the welcome section
Many Thanks
Ps Been nice chatting on the Hawthorne forum

Doak

28-02-2011, 22:15

Thanks John & will do.

And thank you Clive for the advice/info.

Doak

Tea24

01-03-2011, 14:03

Hi John

That looks a great set up; a big one on the wish list from me when (when?:doh:) we move house. What mat, if any , are you suing and is it easy to arrneg the arms for the extra clearance needed?

John

01-03-2011, 16:30

Clive will be better to answer the Question around mat, it comes with the turntable to my understanding this was developed over time. It possible to adjust height, the arm has a lot of different adjustments so is quite flexiable

Clive

01-03-2011, 16:46

There's a serious amount of VTA adjustment available with the arm but if this doesn't accommodate a particular arm/mat arrangement then all you'd need would be a customer arm pillar. Vic can make these any size. The standard Salvation mat is a 3mm acrylic type.

theophile

11-03-2011, 02:36

You should tell the designer of that turntable,that he got the spelling wrong. :eyebrows:

That's not how one spells Salivation........ ;)

John

11-03-2011, 04:48

Lol

The Grand Wazoo

11-03-2011, 08:03

Ha, John once accidentally used that spelling & that's what goes through my mind now every time I see the word Salvation

John

11-03-2011, 08:43

Yes my spelling is pretty poor:doh:

theophile

11-03-2011, 09:41

Ha, John once accidentally used that spelling & that's what goes through my mind now every time I see the word Salvation

It's probably a more apt name. :)