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I just bought one of those Denon midi hi fi s for my shop to get some descent fm radio. Cost me a fiver of e bay ( the cd laser is gone) but i having trouble buying speakers.
The mission speakers that go with the unit sell for £40 on e bay. This comming out of my own pocket, to replace the crap my boss installed so im looking for a bargain.
They need to be efficient, the denon is 40w per channel so that rules out Wharfdale diamonds and Gales. Im wondering if their is some vintage bookshelves that go cheap and are around 88-90 db . Any ideas?
The laser of the Denon should be replacable and worth it IMO.
40WPC should be enough for most small speakers like Diamonds, but never expect room deafening volumes from it 'cos it just can't do it.
I don't know how much they sell for used, but the KEF Chorale 7 (IIRC) was a great all rounder and cheap-as-chips despite having a hollow box and plastic front. The Tannoy M2's were pretty good if a touch too smooth for me. In fact, any small Tannoy from yesteryear should be good, especially the Mercury or M20 Golds which don't cost a fortune.
On the Tannoy front again, the Oxfords were sold into record shops for years and good working ones of these will be loud for not much input. They'll be £100 or so though.
It may be possible to pick up some truly vintage biggies like Goodmans Magnums(K2), B&W DM2's or KEF Cadenza's or Concerto's for under a ton still and all of these were designed for 25 - 50W amps of the day - the 45WPC Quad 303 was regarded as a very powerful amp in the early 70's until the biggies from Crown etc and the Jap invasion came along and even then, the Crowns were only available from two or three dealers in the whole of the UK.
I just bought one of those Denon midi hi fi s for my shop to get some descent fm radio. Cost me a fiver of e bay ( the cd laser is gone) but i having trouble buying speakers.
The mission speakers that go with the unit sell for £40 on e bay. This comming out of my own pocket, to replace the crap my boss installed so im looking for a bargain.
They need to be efficient, the denon is 40w per channel so that rules out Wharfdale diamonds and Gales. Im wondering if their is some vintage bookshelves that go cheap and are around 88-90 db . Any ideas?
...perhaps inside your budget, but 5 hours left...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mission-760i-Speakers-/260739322702?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3cb546534e#ht_500wt_991
...much better than Wharfedales IMHO
Filterlab
24-02-2011, 12:51
Oh yes, the 760s are cracking little speakers. Go for it!
Oh yes, the 760s are cracking little speakers. Go for it!
...indeed, I had a pair for about 15 years...I eventually replaced them with a pair of 780SEs, which are effectively their big brothers (just that bit more bass extension), but for a shop the 760is would probably be a better fit size wise.
No mission 760 models at the moment but there is a bargain Gale 3010 pair.
85db though, would that match the 40w output of the amp? My shop is 12m long with the speakers firing down the entire lengh.
Techno Commander
25-02-2011, 15:47
Nice pair of Double Maxims (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Goodmans-Double-Maxim-Speakers-/300528509488?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item45f8e52230) for a tenner.
Thanks Andy but to gig, i need a pair you wont notice.
To match the amplifier power the speaker sensitivity should be 88-90 decibels
does that sound about right?
Is that 40w into 8ohms? Sounds a lot for some of those little units.
I'd have said if it's only casual background listening something like an 85db pair would be fine
It may actually be 6 ohm. Ill have to wait until it arrives. It wont be loud but its a big space its expected to fill.
Those little Denon systems sound pretty flat. Not a good match with the likes of Diamonds. I'd stick to something a bit easier to chuck around like the Missions mentioned.
Some more 760is...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pair-black-Mission-760i-Speakers-/150569172859?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item230e9f3f7b#ht_500wt_1156
...I have to agree with Mr Pig, I find the Diamonds (9.0 is my only experience) rather dull, and they do take some driving for little speakers, I actually found a use for some old QED silver cable with them, it made a real improvement ;)
Ok , thanks guys. Ive put a bid on Gale 3010s but i probably wont get them.
I will keep my eyes open for Missions. I have seen the systems matching speakers ( Denon/Mission sc50s ) on gum tree for £30 but its the other side of london and i dont have a motor :rolleyes: Cant be arsed in this rain.
Ok , thanks guys. Ive put a bid on Gale 3010s but i probably wont get them.
I will keep my eyes open for Missions. I have seen the systems matching speakers ( Denon/Mission sc50s ) on gum tree for £30 but its the other side of london and i dont have a motor :rolleyes: Cant be arsed in this rain.
Stay in, have a beer, and put the Rugby on would be my suggestion... :cool:
Thanks for the good suggestion;)
Sometimes it takes a rational voice to shake me out of my obsessive behaviour.
I have seen the systems matching speakers, Denon/Mission sc50s, on gum tree
I think those speakers are a bit rubbish anyway. Mission make junk for other people, I don't think they have any scruples. Stick to the 760i or the like, nothing much in the way of bass but easy to drive, detailed and fun.
spendorman
26-02-2011, 14:51
I just bought one of those Denon midi hi fi s for my shop to get some descent fm radio. Cost me a fiver of e bay ( the cd laser is gone) but i having trouble buying speakers.
The mission speakers that go with the unit sell for £40 on e bay. This comming out of my own pocket, to replace the crap my boss installed so im looking for a bargain.
They need to be efficient, the denon is 40w per channel so that rules out Wharfdale diamonds and Gales. Im wondering if their is some vintage bookshelves that go cheap and are around 88-90 db . Any ideas?
Won't you run into that Performing Rights License thingy?
Ah. Yes thanks for the reality check. When i first opened they were phoning me up all the time and even sent someone in. But that was a year ago so im hoping they`ve lost interest.
£100 they want of me :mental:
I think those speakers are a bit rubbish anyway. Mission make junk for other people, I don't think they have any scruples. Stick to the 760i or the like, nothing much in the way of bass but easy to drive, detailed and fun.
Thanks for pointing that out. Mission 760s it is then.
spendorman
26-02-2011, 16:22
JPW speakers are usually bargain prices on ebay.
Mini Monitors or Gold Monitors are great little speakers.
Gold's have Peerless bass unit and Peerless soft dome tweeter (a nice sounding one).
Mini: Peerless bass unit and Audax (I think) tweeter.
Often go for around £10 a pair!
Mini Monitors or Gold Monitors are great little speakers.
They are, but the Missions whip them! ;0)
spendorman
26-02-2011, 16:32
They are, but the Missions whip them! ;0)
A tip, a little extra damping material inside the JPW Mini and Gold improve them somewhat. Reduces mid colouration and improves the bass quality.
JBL Control one - much better than the JPW IMHO
£70 new, delivered and includes wall mounting brackets which might be useful in overcoming in-shop placement issues:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JBL-CONTROL-1-SPEAKERS-BRAND-NEW-BLACK-RRP-99-/360294428492?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item53e338af4c
spendorman
27-02-2011, 10:41
JBL Control one - much better than the JPW IMHO
£70 new, delivered and includes wall mounting brackets which might be useful in overcoming in-shop placement issues:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JBL-CONTROL-1-SPEAKERS-BRAND-NEW-BLACK-RRP-99-/360294428492?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item53e338af4c
I have no experience of these JBL speakers, but one might be able to purchase several pairs of JPW Gold Monitors for that price. As mentioned, the Gold has a nice Peerless soft dome tweeter, Peerless bass/ mid. The cabinet is fairly robust as well.
I believe that some JPW speakers badged Denon and sold with Denon equipment.
I have no experience of these JBL speakers, but one might be able to purchase several pairs of JPW Gold Monitors for that price. As mentioned, the Gold has a nice Peerless soft dome tweeter, Peerless bass/ mid. The cabinet is fairly robust as well.
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Some Golds coming up to a finish on ebay this afternoon so will be interesting to see but right now looks like you could get 2 pairs for £70, agreed. If you need 2 pairs that is.
spendorman
27-02-2011, 11:08
Some Golds coming up to a finish on ebay this afternoon so will be interesting to see but right now looks like you could get 2 pairs for £70, agreed. If you need 2 pairs that is.
Blimey, that's expensive! should get several pairs for that! lol
Cant see the golds but there is a pair of JPW millenium 510s pick up not far from me. Anyone know them?
Blimey, that's expensive! should get several pairs for that! lol
I'm including the shipping @ £15 a pair:)
I see the Golds now. Basically minis with better drivers. Like the sound of that.
spendorman
27-02-2011, 12:27
I'm including the shipping @ £15 a pair:)
That has to be a bargain!!
spendorman
27-02-2011, 12:33
The JPW passive subs will add another dimension to Minis / Golds, and many other speakers.
Usually go very cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JPW-Subwoofer-System-/120690460468?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item1c19b64734
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JPW-passive-Sub-woofer-/250780206922?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3a63aa474a
I have two versions, one has two 8" Peerless bass units, other has two 6 1/2" Peerless bass units.
one might be able to purchase several pairs of JPW Gold Monitors for that price.
Although why would you want to?
These little JBW speakers are nice for what they are, I'm not knocking them too much, but Mission 760, Wharfdale Diamonds etc are a lot better. They just are.
Although why would you want to?
These little JBW speakers are nice for what they are, I'm not knocking them too much, but Mission 760, Wharfdale Diamonds etc are a lot better. They just are.
I'm with you Mr Pig, and the 760is are from a period when mission made decent stuff (they've tarnished the brand name of late), the diamonds are OK but the missions are better IMHO, the cabinets are at least twice as thick...;)
diamonds are OK but the missions are better
More to the point the Missions will work ok with the Denon.
spendorman
27-02-2011, 19:02
Just dug out my JPW Gold Monitors (which have a little extra damping inside) connected them to an A&R A60 and am listening to Neil Young.
Well, perhaps I should get rid of all my other stuff, it sounds bloomin good. Certainly brilliant value. Bass is surprisingly good for such small speakers.
I see here (post 3) that Denon SC-12 speakers were actually JPW Minis:
http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?48233-JPW-Mini-Monitor-Speakers.
it sounds bloomin good. Certainly brilliant value.
Yes they are. Do you have a pair of Mission 760s handy?
spendorman
27-02-2011, 19:28
Yes they are. Do you have a pair of Mission 760s handy?
Unfortunately, no, only Mission is a dead one, well has an off centre 6 1/2" bass unit in it. Sounds good as long as volume is low.
Do have many other (old) speakers here, small ones include Chartwell LS3/5a, Home made LS3/5a clones, JR149 (2 pairs), Videoton Minimax, Celestion Ditton 10, Ditton 100 (not that good). B&W DM1's and probably loads more.
Bigger speakers include Quad ESL63's, Quad ESL57's (two pairs), B&W DM2 / DM2a (about 5 pairs) DM3, DM4, DM5, Spendor BC1, BC2, Prelude, Celestion Ditton 44, Ditton 15, JPW AP3's, AP2's, Tangent RS4, RS2, Tannoy Oxfords, may others as well and a load of home built stuff.
The golds , including postage went for £60.
spendorman
27-02-2011, 19:41
The golds , including postage went for £60.
Blimey, that's much more than I would have expected. I have paid about £10, no stands, postage extra.
Still listening on the Golds, may try the LS3/5a clones in a bit, these sound slightly better to me than my Chartwell LS3/5a
Mass produced Speakers appear to hold some value in comparison to electronics.
I had a look to see if i could pick up a 2nd hand pair of AVI neutrons. I already own mk5s and like them. The older models go for about the same i payed for a new pair.
I also noticed some of the more recent bbc spendors i was looking at a few years ago seem to be being sold a for a lot more now.
Maybe people are downsizing in the recession and buying old classics they used to own as students. Plus a lot more people live in rabbit hutches now and need smaller speakers.
Have to wait a while for 761s to come round for auction. Are the 731s a similar model?
Beobloke
01-03-2011, 12:29
I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the later Goodmans Maxim, Maxim 2 and Maxim 3 from the 80s/90s. I'd personally take a pair of these over any of the other small speakers mentioned, and they only usually cost about a tenner.
A pair of mint, boxed Maxim 3s actually sold on eBay a few days ago for the astonishing sum of £3.53, because the seller refused to post them. Sadly the 400 mile round trip I would have needed to take to collect them would have negated the bargain somewhat. Why is all the cheap 'collect-only' stuff always oop north?! :scratch:
spendorman
01-03-2011, 12:35
I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the later Goodmans Maxim, Maxim 2 and Maxim 3 from the 80s/90s. I'd personally take a pair of these over any of the other small speakers mentioned, and they only usually cost about a tenner.
A pair of mint, boxed Maxim 3s actually sold on eBay a few days ago for the astonishing sum of £3.53, because the seller refused to post them. Sadly the 400 mile round trip I would have needed to take to collect them would have negated the bargain somewhat. Why is all the cheap 'collect-only' stuff always oop north?! :scratch:
I believe that the Maxim 2 had the same (or very similar) tweeter to the JPW Mini. Good that it is, I consider the JPW Gold Monitor tweeter better.
The Maxim 2 had a large series capacitor (High pass filter) to reduce cone excursion of the bass unit.
Watching some maxims now, cheers.
I remember reading Adams article on going down the skip and fishing out some speakers. Sounds like a fun hour or two, if i can find time of.
I wouldn't buy Maxims to go with the Denon for the same reason I wouldn't buy Wharfdale Diamonds. Nothing to do with the quality of the speaker but not a great match for the smooth, un-dynamic Denon. You want something bright, breezy and easy to drive.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 17:08
I wouldn't buy Maxims to go with the Denon for the same reason I wouldn't buy Wharfdale Diamonds. Nothing to do with the quality of the speaker but not a great match for the smooth, un-dynamic Denon. You want something bright, breezy and easy to drive.
If that is the case with the Denon, the JPW's may fit the bill, but I bet I would be fairly happy with any of the speakers mentioned.
I have heard the small Denon systems on two occasions, the first was with the Denon speakers. I was quite impressed and looked at the back of the Denon speakers and saw that they were made by JPW.
The other small Denon system that I heard was driving some B&W ceiling speakers, was pretty good too.
You're not a fan of JPW speakers are you by any chance Alex? ;0)
My son used to have one of those little Denon systems. We also have Diamonds, 760is, Mini Monitors and Wharfdale Delta 30s in use around the house.
Of all the speakers mentioned the best is the Missions, no question.
The JPW would be next as the Denon can drive them ok and they're boppy little speakers.
The Diamonds are better speakers than the JPW but not on the end of the Denon. It's just not good enough to drive them properly.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 17:53
You're not a fan of JPW speakers are you by any chance Alex? ;0)
My son used to have one of those little Denon systems. We also have Diamonds, 760is, Mini Monitors and Wharfdale Delta 30s in use around the house.
Of all the speakers mentioned the best is the Missions, no question.
The JPW would be next as the Denon can drive them ok and they're boppy little speakers.
The Diamonds are better speakers than the JPW but not on the end of the Denon. It's just not good enough to drive them properly.
Well, probably yes, because they are pretty good and can usually be had so cheaply. Not so easy to get the other speakers so cheap. usually!
You seem to have heard the JPW Mini Monitors, but what about the Golds?
I have a large speaker collection, mainly old stuff (list somewhere on AOS) and the JPW Golds are pretty good. The JPW AP3's are very good.
The JPW Golds are pretty good. The JPW AP3's are very good.
What's that you say, JPW speakers? ;0)
No, I've not got a pair of Golds, or AP3s. I'm sure they are good, I'd definitely be happy to try them out.
A pair of golds and missions about to go in half an hour.
Just got the denon and listened to fm through my klipsch in ears.
Agree they are not dynamic but found it a bit bright.
Im guessing the Missions will be a bit warmer than the golds?
JPW golds went for £50 plus pp. To much for me :(
Reid Malenfant
01-03-2011, 20:21
Colin, look for some Mission 780SE :) They were £300 new & quite a revelation for a small speaker, i don't think i'd be the only one to back this up on here. At moderate volume levels they produce bass that is frankly bloody astounding for a 5 1/4" driver & they'll go quite loud without distress (100W RMS rated).
Just a suggestion :)
spendorman
01-03-2011, 20:24
JPW golds went for £50 plus pp. To much for me :(
If not already done, do a saved search on ebay for all the speakers you are interested in.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 20:32
Just dug out my JPW Gold Monitors (which have a little extra damping inside) connected them to an A&R A60 and am listening to Neil Young.
Well, perhaps I should get rid of all my other stuff, it sounds bloomin good. Certainly brilliant value. Bass is surprisingly good for such small speakers.
I see here (post 3) that Denon SC-12 speakers were actually JPW Minis:
http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?48233-JPW-Mini-Monitor-Speakers.
OK, been comparing comparing my LS3/5a clones (these are very carefully built and cabinets are slightly deeper front to back to reduce midrange colouration) to the JPW Golds.
Well, yes the LS3/5a is a more refined sound, but more musical? The JPW Gold Monitor seems more alive, bass does not go quite as low as the LS3/5a clones (but they go down lower than standard 5a's because the cabinets are slightly bigger). However, the bass is very good and tighter than the clone 5a's
I have about 3 pages of speakers lol.
I saw a pair of 780s go for £30. The bass drivers were white if thats the same ones.
Also have 761s, 731s and some spacey looking 707s on watch.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 20:41
Just seen these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pair-JPW-ML310-Speakers-Black-Ash-/160551986955?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item2561a4e70b
Get a good review:
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/jpw/ml310/PRD_119814_1594crx.aspx
Reid Malenfant
01-03-2011, 20:44
I saw a pair of 780s go for £30. The bass drivers were white if thats the same ones.
Different speakers Colin, the 780SE has a black driver cone. The tweeter is mounted under the bass/mid & there is a port off to one side of the tweeter near the bottom. Pretty small, i'd say about 12" tall, 7" wide but maybe 10" deep ;)
Thanks. I was wondering about them.
My first impressions of the Denon are very bright but then i was listening to some shitty pop stations. Radio4 sounded ok.
Couldnt tune to bbc 2. Im surrounded by huge buildings ( Warner brothers, media com!!) and i only have a cheap t-bar dipole thingy as a aerial.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 20:49
Too expensive.
It seems that Marco may have boosted the prices:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fine-Pair-Celestion-Ditton-15XR-Speakers-/220741664421?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item33653a7ea5
spendorman
01-03-2011, 20:52
These might be a bargain:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Celestion-Ditton-22-speakers-/280633119014?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4157099126
They look great. It must be that Italian baroque look that draws Marco to them.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 20:55
And another pair:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/celestion-ditton-22-speakers-/280636153329?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item415737ddf1
spendorman
01-03-2011, 21:00
Never owned the 130, but should be OK
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pair-Celestion-Ditton-130-speakers-/180632703895?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item2a0e8c5397
These might be a bargain:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Celestion-Ditton-22-speakers-/280633119014?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4157099126
Like them but its buyer collects.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 21:04
The older Ditton 15 were not bad, will make a lot of quite nice noise on a small amp.
The are quite late production.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Beautiful-Celestion-Ditton-15-Speakers-/230591470793?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item35b0529cc9
spendorman
01-03-2011, 21:05
Like them but its buyer collects.
Always worth asking if they will send.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 21:09
A speaker I have wanting to try is the Tannoy Mercury F1 Custom.
Less than £100 new, so should be in your range second hand.
They get good write ups.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 21:22
Denon speakers:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DENON-SC2-SPEAKERS-/290539408260?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item43a57f8b84
Looks like they are similar to the JPW Mini Monitors, although he says they are Mission.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 21:28
Another pair
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Denon-SC-M2-2-way-speakers-/150568789587?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item230e996653
Yeah they are the ones ive read about on other forums.
The ones mission do for denon look nicer. SC-m73s for sale on e bay by Moorgate acoustics look good with a curved beech box.
If you're buying really cheap stuff you need to search locally as the cost of postage is significant. Find speakers being sold around the corner.
spendorman
01-03-2011, 23:17
If you're buying really cheap stuff you need to search locally as the cost of postage is significant. Find speakers being sold around the corner.
Good point, my 99p Ditton 15's were only about 1 1/2 Miles away, picked them up.
Good advice. Ill wait a bit. £20 postage is to much , and i do live in London so it wont be that hard.
spendorman
02-03-2011, 11:24
These are new and include postage! the tweeter looks like it is an Audax can't really be bad for the price:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Deluxe-Studio-Small-high-Performance-HiFi-Home-Speakers_W0QQitemZ150487874885QQcategoryZ14991QQcm dZViewItemQQ_trksidZe11010.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW %26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%2 6clkid%3D7450300583235822319
These are new and include postage! the tweeter looks like it is an Audax can't really be bad for the price:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Deluxe-Studio-Small-high-Performance-HiFi-Home-Speakers_W0QQitemZ150487874885QQcategoryZ14991QQcm dZViewItemQQ_trksidZe11010.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW %26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%2 6clkid%3D7450300583235822319
Got a pair of mission 761s £25 pick up in London. Thanks for all the help.
Interested in how they perform. I wired up my Neutrons today to see how it sounded. Speech was very clear and guitars sound pretty crisp but no bass to speak of. They are rear ported though and i dont have them against the wall. Plus they are sitting on a Ikea Billy bookcase do cant expect much.
Jac Hawk
04-03-2011, 21:04
How about these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/castle-warwick-speakers-/150569837831?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item230ea96507
That would have been a good pick up, just down the road from where i hang out but i had an impulse for a pair of Mission 760s which im of to pick up now.
Picked up a pair of Mission 760s. Initial impressions are very good. Plenty of bass
nice musical presentation. Bit of hiss on FM to be expected, may have to get a better aerial.
I need to isolate them better also as they are sitting on top of bookcases at the moment.
Im worried if i put them in my main system they might sound better than my Neutrons.
:popcorn:
Im worried if i put them in my main system they might sound better than my Neutrons.
You have to try it if only for peace of mind:)
Going to do it later this afternoon. I have some e bay selling to take care of.
Picked up a pair of Mission 760s. Initial impressions are very good. Plenty of bass
nice musical presentation. Bit of hiss on FM to be expected, may have to get a better aerial.
I need to isolate them better also as they are sitting on top of bookcases at the moment.
Im worried if i put them in my main system they might sound better than my Neutrons.
The Missions have a crude crossover and tiny dome tweeter to compensate. Result? A sometimes phasey suckout at crossover and a tinsel effect on any hf signals - fine for cheapo NAD style systems from the 80's but not hifi to the source.....
The Neutrons are tiny, so don't have much bass extension. Everywhere else, I always found them to punch far higher than their weight and cost, something the Harbeth P3ESR does even better (for triple the price of the Neutrons, so it bloody well should too...;))
dantheman91
26-10-2018, 09:22
Just got a pair of JPW golds :eek:
They sound really good...:mental:
Sherwood
26-10-2018, 09:56
I just bought one of those Denon midi hi fi s for my shop to get some descent fm radio. Cost me a fiver of e bay ( the cd laser is gone) but i having trouble buying speakers.
The mission speakers that go with the unit sell for £40 on e bay. This comming out of my own pocket, to replace the crap my boss installed so im looking for a bargain.
They need to be efficient, the denon is 40w per channel so that rules out Wharfdale diamonds and Gales. Im wondering if their is some vintage bookshelves that go cheap and are around 88-90 db . Any ideas?
I think you will find that Wharfedale Diamonds will work fine with the Denon.
spendorman
26-10-2018, 10:04
Just got a pair of JPW golds :eek:
They sound really good...:mental:
Nice Peerless soft dome tweeter in there, Golds can benefit from a little extra damping put inside.
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