View Full Version : 'Modern' Electronic music - convert a fogey!
In my teens (mid 1970s), I got into the electronic music of the day - Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze in particular, but most of the recent electronic music I've heard just doesn't seem to appeal.
So I'm after recommendations from you good people.
My favourite TD albums are Zeit, Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet, Stratosfear, Sorcerer, Encore, Force Majoure and Tangram and favorite KS ones include Dune, Timewind, Picture Music, Bodylove etc.
I much prefer the longer more 'symphonic' pieces. Preferably no vocals.
Given the above, can anyone suggest something more recent that would 'float my boat'? Hopefully stuff I can sample first on YouTube etc. before parting with any cash.
As I'm caring for my dad full time, I won't have a huge amount of free time to listen to lots and lots of recommended tracks, so please suggest the very best of the best for me to sample.
Cheers
Reid Malenfant
30-12-2010, 18:34
Pete Namlook
Biosphere (Geir Jenssen)
Tetsu Inoue
That's your lot or there really will be too much stuff :eyebrows:
Thanks Mark - I'll check those out.
I've heard Namlook before, but only in collaboration with Klaus Schulze.
Cheers,
Reid Malenfant
30-12-2010, 18:53
Thanks Mark - I'll check those out.
I've heard Namlook before, but only in collaboration with Klaus Schulze.
Cheers,
Aye, the Dark Side Of The Moog series ;)
You might like Bill Laswell also, but seriously just looking for Namlook stuff & you'll need to look for more ambient stuff not the trance style from his earlier days will take some time.
I suggest you look for stuff he did with "Move D" (David Moufang) as this might suit a bit better, that or his solo stuff will likely be the best bet ;)
Biosphere & Tetsu Inoue you should find a load of good stuff pretty quickly, see if you can find tracks from Inoues' "Organic Cloud" or "Ambiant Otaku" albums. Biosphere look for tracks from Polar Sequencies or Cirque might well float your boat..
Have fun & sorry to hear about the domestic situation, i know where you are coming from ;)
For retro EM look no further than redshift..contemporary some Ian Boddy..the Redshift albums may be hard to find in CD but can be downloaded from musiczeit's site..theres lots out there and being honest most is pretty good..I still like Tangerine Dream & Klaus Schulze' recent stuff but maybe you won't.
Cheers! Lots to check out already!
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If you like a bit of composition check this album. Moritz von Oswald and Carl Craig messing about with Deutch Gramaphone recordings. A big favorite of mine.
Ta Colin. Added to the list.
Anything or everything by the 'Boards Of Canada' - 'Music has the right to children', 'Geogaddi', and 'The Campfire Headphase' should be compulsory
Gavin Russholm & Deliah Gonzalez - The Days of Mars (a 21st century Rubycon)
I'm a Redshift fan too -
TeeDee's Phaedra helped "make me" back in 1974 - I can't say enough how this one LP changed my whole life at the ripe old age of 17.......
I'm going out on a limb and going to recommend Hybrid too. More techno orientated, but original and with nods firmly in Berlin School from time to time.
Oh, Jerome Froese's solo work is gentler and far better than most TeeDee post 1990 and how could I forget Ulrich Schnauss - lovely, thoughtful music which touches your soul (well, mine anyway)..
AEM - Landscapes
Subscribe to Groove nl emails. Their site has loads of em discs with soundbites too.
Loads and loads more - I haven't even scratched the surface. Good luck :)
Wise words Dave....by the way happy new year & thanks for helping out with things in the past and leading me to this great forum.
All the best to you and yours for 2011 John.
Please give my love and best vibes to our old online friends on the TeeDee forums too. I just got left behind in the release rush Edgar & co seem to have these days and much of what I heard all sounds like supermarket music (perhaps I'm totally wrong on this, as with much else).. Even the great BM only visits here occasionally.
Thanks chaps. Will check them all out. Need a bigger sheet of paper :)
Beechwoods
30-12-2010, 21:22
Anything or everything by the 'Boards Of Canada' - 'Music has the right to children', 'Geogaddi', and 'The Campfire Headphase' should be compulsory
You beat me to it. Geogaddi is a classic in my book. 'A Beautiful Place Out In The Country' is a brilliant EP as well.
Also check out Susumu Yokota. His stuff is sublime. He channels the spirit of people like Philip Glass and Steve Reich into post-modern electronic music. In the UK he's on the Leaf label, or was. Leaf had a house sound in the early 00's that meant that all their releases were in a similar vein, and you couldn't go far wrong with anything they released. I stopped collecting their stuff around BAYCD35 in mid 2004. For a good intro check out Yokota's 'Leaf Compilation (http://www.discogs.com/Various-Leaf-Compilation/release/2996)' from 2001.
Some Susumu Yokota:
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You beat me to it. Geogaddi is a classic in my book. 'A Beautiful Place Out In The Country' is a brilliant EP as well.
Also check out Susumu Yokota. His stuff is sublime. He channels the spirit of people like Philip Glass and Steve Reich into post-modern electronic music. In the UK he's on the Leaf label, or was. Leaf had a house sound in the early 00's that meant that all their releases were in a similar vein, and you couldn't go far wrong with anything they released. I stopped collecting their stuff around BAYCD35 in mid 2004. For a good intro check out Yokota's 'Leaf Compilation (http://www.discogs.com/Various-Leaf-Compilation/release/2996)' from 2001.
Some Susumu Yokota:
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In which case I'll be getting some 'Susumu Yokota' sharpish...for me the 'Boards Of Canada' are the finest thing of the last decade :)
Reid Malenfant
30-12-2010, 21:29
:lolsign: I have damn near all of these mentioned so far ;)
Poor guy is going to have information overload :eyebrows:
Before I forget...Trentmoeller, and Plaid are quite interesting too although perhaps not quite the 20 minute tracks etc.
I spotted a reference to Hybrid, oh no no no! they make the Chemical Brothers sound like early Kraftwerk, 2 electro break beat DJs and a warbling bint...I think he's looking for head music not commercial dance fodder...although I could be wrong ;)
Beechwoods
30-12-2010, 21:42
...for me the 'Boards Of Canada' are the finest thing of the last decade :)
I've been in love with Boards of Canada since 'Music Has The Right to Children'; they're there in my 'records to die for' if you search the post out :) Recently I've been trying to pick up their remixes (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Boards+Of+Canada#t=Credits_Remix&q=&p=1) of other people's stuff, there are a few from their earlier days and they are all very BOC and well worth having. The BOC related tracks on the recent Warp20 compilations are well worth hearing as well... one great unreleased track on there too. The last 12" I bought was a 'DJ Promo (http://www.discogs.com/Boards-Of-Canada-Unreleased-Tracks/master/2785)' (aka bootleg) of 4 rather rare tracks from the old MASK Warp comps or thereabouts. Not the langourous BOC, but their glitchy early alter-egos. Have you heard the early rips of 'BOC Maxima' and the 'Old Tunes' tapes? They are also worth hearing.
Finally, here's an essay and half (http://mikeypdiddy.tripod.com/boardspaper.htm) that will give you a new angle on Geogaddi :)
I wasn't so impressed with Campfire Headphase, but I'll always be front of the queue when BOC have anything new out!
Here's a few off the top of my head: Spotify links, if you have access:
Cinematic Orchestra (http://open.spotify.com/artist/32ogthv0BdaSMPml02X9YB) - try this one in particular if you like symphonic (http://open.spotify.com/album/48zPKXSCFOdMlgTaeVQn5u)
Jon Hopkins (http://open.spotify.com/artist/7yxi31szvlbwvKq9dYOmFI)
Ulrich Schnauss (http://open.spotify.com/artist/4znPt0HV6Ik0iR8sR4GAJE)
Marconi Union (http://open.spotify.com/artist/3nZ3ed6p4CKc1McTLypr6H)
Afterlife (http://open.spotify.com/artist/6gnvHPFDgWP4LiES4X0Ajz)
Nitin Sawhney (http://open.spotify.com/artist/5NCKpzuowtihcIrIHFjKbJ)
Tosca (http://open.spotify.com/artist/2QezBWDHOoFeVCM3wlzTDu)
Better stop there - you'll be at it for hours! ;)
Here's a few off the top of my head: Spotify links, if you have access:
Cinematic Orchestra (http://open.spotify.com/artist/32ogthv0BdaSMPml02X9YB) - try this one in particular if you like symphonic (http://open.spotify.com/album/48zPKXSCFOdMlgTaeVQn5u)
Jon Hopkins (http://open.spotify.com/artist/7yxi31szvlbwvKq9dYOmFI)
Ulrich Schnauss (http://open.spotify.com/artist/4znPt0HV6Ik0iR8sR4GAJE)
Marconi Union (http://open.spotify.com/artist/3nZ3ed6p4CKc1McTLypr6H)
Afterlife (http://open.spotify.com/artist/6gnvHPFDgWP4LiES4X0Ajz)
Nitin Sawhney (http://open.spotify.com/artist/5NCKpzuowtihcIrIHFjKbJ)
Tosca (http://open.spotify.com/artist/2QezBWDHOoFeVCM3wlzTDu)
Better stop there - you'll be at it for hours! ;)
Oh the Cinematics!!!! :)
mmmm, time for 'live at the royal albert hall'
I've been in love with Boards of Canada since 'Music Has The Right to Children'; they're there in my 'records to die for' if you search the post out :) Recently I've been trying to pick up their remixes (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Boards+Of+Canada#t=Credits_Remix&q=&p=1) of other people's stuff, there are a few from their earlier days and they are all very BOC and well worth having. The BOC related tracks on the recent Warp20 compilations are well worth hearing as well... one great unreleased track on there too. The last 12" I bought was a 'DJ Promo (http://www.discogs.com/Boards-Of-Canada-Unreleased-Tracks/master/2785)' (aka bootleg) of 4 rather rare tracks from the old MASK Warp comps or thereabouts. Not the langourous BOC, but their glitchy early alter-egos. Have you heard the early rips of 'BOC Maxima' and the 'Old Tunes' tapes? They are also worth hearing.
Finally, here's an essay and half (http://mikeypdiddy.tripod.com/boardspaper.htm) that will give you a new angle on Geogaddi :)
I wasn't so impressed with Campfire Headphase, but I'll always be front of the queue when BOC have anything new out!
Cheers for the nod, the only ones I have are these;
The Campfire Headphase
(2005)
Boards of Canada
Geogaddi
(2002)
Boards of Canada
Music Has the Right to Children
(1998)
Boards of Canada
Peel Session
(1998)
Boards of Canada
Trans Canada Highway
(2006)
Boards of Canada
Twoism
(1995)
Boards of Canada
...have another go with the Campfire Headphase, Dayvan Cowboy is one of their finest.
I just managed to get the peel sessions & twoism from rise (formerly Fopp) records as Gordon the owner is a big BOC fan.
:cool:
Music has the right is the best place to start i think.
Music has the right is the best place to start i think.
Indeed... :cool:
Beechwoods
30-12-2010, 22:15
I just managed to get the peel sessions & twoism from rise (formerly Fopp) records as Gordon the owner is a big BOC fan.
:cool:
'Happy Cycling' off the Peel Sessions comp is one my faves... I love the way they incorporate the sample of the seagulls, or whatever they are!
I'll give Campfire... another go. You never know! My problem last time I listened to it was it wasn't 'old synthesiser' enough - too many 'real instruments' ! It was too much of a departure from their earlier albums for me :)
'Happy Cycling' off the Peel Sessions comp is one my faves... I love the way they incorporate the sample of the seagulls, or whatever they are!
I'll give Campfire... another go. You never know! My problem last time I listened to it was it wasn't 'old synthesiser' enough - too many 'real instruments' ! It was too much of a departure from their earlier albums.
Happy Cycling a real treat
Exactly as one of my mates said, but after a while it just seems like normal BOC as it were...
It's about time they got their arses into gear, 5 years since the last album, even for them that's a long break!!!
Techno Commander
30-12-2010, 23:54
Hybrid (http://www.hybridsoundsystem.com/) are excellent. In particular Wider Angle, Live Angle and Disappear Here.
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I spotted a reference to Hybrid, oh no no no! they make the Chemical Brothers sound like early Kraftwerk, 2 electro break beat DJs and a warbling bint...I think he's looking for head music not commercial dance fodder...although I could be wrong ;)
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Maybe not then, but I'd hardly call them commercial dance fodder - there's a bit more to it than that :)
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Maybe not then, but I'd hardly call them commercial dance fodder - there's a bit more to it than that :)
Perhaps I was a bit over the top, I have 'wider angle', 'morning sci-fi', 'remix and additional production by...' and several other remixes (given to me by their engineer's brother, a former colleague).
I've seen them on numerous occasions, danced around like a loon most times :), but I'd not suggest them as a modern day equivalent to 'Tangerene Dream', as the original requirement was.
Otherwise we might as well suggest Leftfield, Underworld, the Chemical Brothers etc too. ;)
Oh absolutely, but having come to Hybrid via Jerome Froese (son of Edgar) and Ulrich Schnauss, I can see the lineage - IMO. Edgar is playing safe these days, with no "danger" at all - and accepting that Phaedra was, IMO, genius borne of accident in the studio power supplies throwing the Moog III into a paddy..... What struck me about Hybrid, and Morning Sci-Fi and Disappear Here in particular, was that sense of "danger" here and there, obviously with techno roots as against Dali-esque visions ;)
P.S. Playing Morining Sci-Fi just to make sure, currently track 6 with a lovely sequencer interlude in the middle :D
Oh absolutely, but having come to Hybrid via Jerome Froese (son of Edgar) and Ulrich Schnauss, I can see the lineage - IMO. Edgar is playing safe these days, with no "danger" at all - and accepting that Phaedra was, IMO, genius borne of accident in the studio power supplies throwing the Moog III into a paddy..... What struck me about Hybrid, and Morning Sci-Fi and Disappear Here in particular, was that sense of "danger" here and there, obviously with techno roots as against Dali-esque visions ;)
P.S. Playing Morining Sci-Fi just to make sure, currently track 6 with a lovely sequencer interlude in the middle :D
Ah Ulrich Schnauss...I should have realised from your location :doh:, now that's an album that might fit the bill, perhaps 'Rounds' by Fourtet, or even 'A Chorus of Storytellers' by 'The Album Leaf'...
If you like the analogue synth sound, and early TDream, I can't recommend Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russholm's 'Days of Mars' enough (on the DFA label), make all their own synths etc. :)
Techno Commander
31-12-2010, 13:49
Hybrid works just as well as "head music" as it does dance music.
Coincidently, just as Tangerine Dream does.
I wouldnt call Hybrid "commercial".:)
Hybrid works just as well as "head music" as it does dance music.
Coincidently, just as Tangerine Dream does.
I wouldnt call Hybrid "commercial".:)
As I said earlier, perhaps I was a little 'rash' in my castigation ;)
I still maintain that they are ostensibly an 'electro break beat' dance outfit, you know exactly what's coming after each quieter passage (they do have an identifiable 'sound')...unless it's Peter Hook!!!
I find a lot of DnB very good 'head music' (LTJ Bukem etc.) but I doubt our man would be into that either. Perhaps early Banco De Gaia might be more his kettle of trance :)
Techno Commander
31-12-2010, 14:27
Dont really like DnB at all. Except for some very early stuff.
Like this-
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Banco De Gaia is definitely good. Might also be worthwhile looking for some Psy Trance DJ sets. Plenty to explore here (http://www.surfmusic.de/format/techno.html).
zygote23
31-12-2010, 15:54
I'm sure someone has mentioned it but www.musiczeit.com should cater for all your needs.
Redshift
Code Indigo
Harold Grosskopf
Ashra
Bernd Kistenmacher
Steve Roach (www.steveroach.com)
Eric Wollo http://www.wollo.com/
Cosmic Hoffmann
Mind Over Matter
David Parsons
Most of the Above will shit all over what most folks call modern Electronica which for the most part is music by numbers. It's ok if you are out in a club but wont stand up to sustained listening.
Boards of Canada = pretty good
Stars of the Lid = better than Boards of Canada
Black film - Stunning HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y544VF0I1-U) but not really electronica as such
Worriedaboutsatan
The Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble
The Kilimanjaro Doomjazz corporation
I'm sure someone has mentioned it but www.musiczeit.com should cater for all your needs.
Redshift
Code Indigo
Harold Grosskopf
Ashra
Bernd Kistenmacher
Steve Roach (www.steveroach.com)
Eric Wollo http://www.wollo.com/
Cosmic Hoffmann
Mind Over Matter
David Parsons
Most of the Above will shit all over what most folks call modern Electronica which for the most part is music by numbers. It's ok if you are out in a club but wont stand up to sustained listening.
Boards of Canada = pretty good
Stars of the Lid = better than Boards of Canada
Black film - Stunning HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y544VF0I1-U) but not really electronica as such
Worriedaboutsatan
The Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble
The Kilimanjaro Doomjazz corporation
Stars of the Lid = better than Boards of Canada
Any album you'd recommend...I'm in Amazon now finger on the tit as it were...too late deed done :)
Techno Commander
31-12-2010, 16:20
I'm sure someone has mentioned it but www.musiczeit.com should cater for all your needs.
Excellent link - thanks.
Most of the Above will shit all over what most folks call modern Electronica which for the most part is music by numbers. It's ok if you are out in a club but wont stand up to sustained listening.
Agreed there as well. :)
zygote23
31-12-2010, 17:07
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This just blows me away!
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Got to give a mention to Pantha Du Prince release this year Black Noise, beautiful album.
zygote23
31-12-2010, 17:57
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Rameses III completely blow Boards of Canada and Stars of the Lid right out of the water!
Beechwoods
31-12-2010, 17:59
That's a lot of blowing going on!
zygote23
31-12-2010, 18:05
Nothing like a good old blow if you ask me!
Beechwoods
31-12-2010, 18:09
:lolsign:
magiccarpetride
31-12-2010, 18:26
You might like Bill Laswell also
+1, Laswell is fantastic on a really good audio system.
Have been slowly working my way through your suggestions. So far I've really enjoyed Redshift (probably no surprise there, given their similarity to vintage Tangerine Dream) and also Ulrich Schnauss.
Of the more 'ambient' offerings, Biosphere are out in front at the moment, but still have lots more to hear before making any purchases.
Thanks again for all your suggestions :cheers:
More techno, but bare with me - System 7 ("water" album and the later releases post Golden Section, which is too stripped out even for me) and also the more laid back "Mirror System." can't help it, I'm a confirmed Steve Hillage and (some) Gong fan.
Have been slowly working my way through your suggestions. So far I've really enjoyed Redshift (probably no surprise there, given their similarity to vintage Tangerine Dream) and also Ulrich Schnauss.
Of the more 'ambient' offerings, Biosphere are out in front at the moment, but still have lots more to hear before making any purchases.
Thanks again for all your suggestions :cheers:
Do try this one particularly given the early TDream affinity...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Days-Delia-Gonzalez-Gavin-Russom/dp/B000AMUUKI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1294072133&sr=8-3
...not cheap though :(
More techno, but bare with me - System 7 ("water" album and the later releases post Golden Section, which is too stripped out even for me) and also the more laid back "Mirror System." can't help it, I'm a confirmed Steve Hillage and (some) Gong fan.
Thanks Dave - will check out as I too like Steve Hillage/Gong.
Techno Commander
03-01-2011, 17:02
Not "modern", but Eloy and Tim Blake are both excellent.
Not "modern", but Eloy and Tim Blake are both excellent.
not a huge Eloy fan but have Tim Blake's 'Crystal Machine' and 'New Jerusalem'
Tim Blake's Majick album is good as well with a raw and more intimate feel I think. new Jerusalem is excellent apart from his singing (you really shouldn't have Tim ;))
Do try this one particularly given the early TDream affinity...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Days-Delia-Gonzalez-Gavin-Russom/dp/B000AMUUKI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1294072133&sr=8-3
...not cheap though :(
I like that!
On "To buy" list.
I like that!
On "To buy" list.
Thought you would, it is a 21st century Rubycon IMHO...;)
Boards of Canada = pretty good
Stars of the Lid = better than Boards of Canada
I've taken your advice and bought Stars of the Lid 'And Their Refinement of the Decline'.
Thank you for the tip, I was looking for some more ambient electronica and this is very good.
However why on earth you compare them to the Boards Of Canada is quite beyond me, yes they use electronics to produce their music, yes they are both composed of mammalian bipeds, and yes they both have odd sounding names...but that's where the similarity ends.
Stars of the lid are like a more fleshed out orchestral ambient Brian Eno, with no beats or rhythms.
Whereas The Boards of Canada are completely reliant on beats and rhythms, they have a groove...perhaps you do not ;)
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