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Rare Bird
14-12-2010, 11:12
As from 24 hours ago my wife took the decision to stop smoking, it was a decision she was actually forced into doing due to one of the worse chest infections i've seen anyone suffer, all brought on by the recent weather but smoking made it a hell of a ot worse, i did take the pleasure in destroying all her ciggies yesterday..well shes got through this morning as i believe the first cig thing is the hardest to over come...So good luck to her i say. i have to warn her family & friends not to smoke near her or else face a very angry me.
Ali Tait
14-12-2010, 11:23
Difficult time of the year to stop,best of luck to you both though!
Stratmangler
14-12-2010, 11:31
Any time of year is a difficult time to stop smoking.
I echo Ali's sentiments, best of luck to you both.
I've been clean for 18 months now, and still get the occasional urge to have one.
So far I've managed to resist, but I'm an addict, and I know that just one will never be just one.
It's all or nothing for me.
Good luck indeed...
I'm a dirty rotten addicted smoker, however my most successful efforts to stop have always involved patches (12 months being my best), they do help for the first few weeks, with the withdrawal, but after that it's the psychological addiction that stays.
I have mates who can have the occasional one when they're out for a drink, lucky buggers, but not me I'm afraid.
Ali Tait
14-12-2010, 12:31
Coming up to 3 years for me now.
Beechwoods
14-12-2010, 12:35
Five and a half for me. I tried patches but in the end going cold turkey was the only way. It's easy to replace a fixation on cigarettes with one for the next patch!
Good luck Mrs Andr'e :)
Ali Tait
14-12-2010, 12:51
Yes agreed, cold turkey is the way to go.
Yes good luck Mrs Andr'e, i have been clean for nearly two years as well, still get an odd urge especially when i see a big fat Cigar, i went cold turkey as well
Spectral Morn
14-12-2010, 13:56
Thankfully I never started :)
Good luck indeed.
Regards D S D L
The Vinyl Adventure
14-12-2010, 14:13
i quit last week... its going quite well really
good luck mrs andre, i know your pain!
Stratmangler
14-12-2010, 14:19
i quit last week... its going quite well really
good luck mrs andre, i know your pain!
Well done !
Keep it up.
It does get easier to resist. Honest !
Haselsh1
14-12-2010, 14:55
Hmmm... I truly sympathise. I am addicted to really good red wine but I am not an alcoholic as I am as stubborn as a bloody ass and unbelievably bloody minded with it. I know very well when I have had enough but I truly empathise with smokers. It really can't be easy for her. I hope she see's it through. My very best wishes.
Covenant
14-12-2010, 19:36
Tell her she smells better! She will never smoke again. :lol:
I'm a non starter too, never really saw the facination, plus I had bad asthma as a young teen.
Twenty seven years and counting....
Think I'm over it now.
Twenty seven years and counting....
Since having sex or smoking? ;)
Marco.
Dirty rotten smoking addict here...(who's tried several times and will try again)
Anyone who claims to have started smoking for reasons other than they thought it looked cool, made them look older, or peer pressure...is a liar!
Being of a certain age, from a little village in North Cumbria, everyone smoked, we even had a bloke on our farm who chewed tobacco!!!
It takes about 6 months intensive training before you even stop spluttering, and feeling nauseous.
Apart from perhaps an after dinner cigar, or a nice bifter, the only 'pleasure' one gets from smoking is the removal of ones nicotine pangs.
The addiction is twofold, firstly the chemical 'nicotine' addiction, which goes in a month or so, but the psychological one is there all the time, and that's the tough one to overcome.
During any one of my several bouts of giving up, I'd go into a pub and subconsciously find my hand going into my pockets for something...cigarettes and lighter, very weird, and very hard to break...especially after so many years.
It's easier to come off coke or heroine, and at least those are drugs with some potential benefits...apparently! (not trying to be facetious here, an ex partner of mine was a coke addict, and I know how destructive that can be).
Someone on here mentioned that their fondness for red wine allowed them to 'empathise', it does not, 'sympathise' yes 'empathise' no.
I love good red wine, good real ale, good lager etc. but if tomorrow someone said it's the fags or the booze, I'd have to choose the fags...I know that sounds stupid but there's a big difference between enjoyment and addiction.
Haselsh1
16-12-2010, 16:18
...but there's a big difference between enjoyment and addiction.
There sure is
Twenty seven years and counting....
Think I'm over it now.
Yep, same here, stopped in 1983...
Had tried quite a few times previously, but always come the 2 week mark I would trip up and start again, usually after having a few drinks...
Rare Bird
17-12-2010, 10:31
She's driving me nuts she won't shurrup about fags & now has St.Vitus dance
She's driving me nuts she won't shurrup about fags & now has St.Vitus dance
Gum, patches, or those inhalation sticks...she needs nicotine, a placebo, and something to fiddle with.
She's driving me nuts she won't shurrup about fags & now has St.Vitus dance
Wossat then when it's at home? :scratch:
Sounds like a bad rash or summat :eyebrows:
Marco.
Reid Malenfant
17-12-2010, 12:45
I think he means the DTs or Delirium tremens, that's the withdrawl alright & it's not nice :(
Best of luck whoever attempts to give up the cancer sticks :eek:
Wossat then when it's at home? :scratch:
Sounds like a bad rash or summat :eyebrows:
Marco.
Apart from a track on 'Black Sabbath IV', it was a rather non PC named ailment which I think affected the nervous system, hence the 'Dance' part...
Edit; Cheers for the clarification Mark
Ah, thanks, chaps. Having never smoked or suffered from anything like that, I hadn't heard of such a thing before....
Sorry to hear she's going through that, Andre. Hopefully, she'll be over it soon and have succeeded in giving up her very nasty habit! :)
Marco.
For my next attempt, I'm going with those silly little inhaler sticks...
Nicotine, and something to fiddle with, I know it sounds and looks stupid but at least it caters for both parts of the addiction, and is some form of psychological touchstone.
Anything worth a try...
Reid Malenfant
17-12-2010, 13:04
For my next attempt, I'm going with those silly little inhaler sticks...
:lolsign: Not enough will power there Will :doh: You know if you say attempt you are stuffed :eyebrows:
If i was to give up smoking i'd have to stop drinking first :cool:
:mental:
:lolsign: Not enough will power there Will :doh: You know if you say attempt you are stuffed :eyebrows:
If i was to give up smoking i'd have to stop drinking first :cool:
:mental:
Just being honest I think Mark, I have tried several times in the past, and I'm lighting one up now...
Anyway a pole vaulter can get over the bar on their last attempt can't they.
With me the drinking part isn't a problem, it doesn't make me crave any more or less, in fact probably less as the effects of the alcohol dim my cravings. It's probably some association thing, by rights I should crave a ciggie every time I see a school bus :)
The Vinyl Adventure
17-12-2010, 13:38
Blunts...
No tobacco, plenty of smoke, and it eases the nicotine pangs through not giving a shit any more... Easy!
What I don't get about the smoking addiction, and you guys can educate me here, is what makes you get past the 'ugh, that tastes like shit' stage when you inhale, for the first time ever, the smoke from a fag?
Let me explain a little more.... I had my one and only puff of a fag at school when I was 14, and after tasting how horrible it was, vowed never to go near one again!!
Now at that time I was (and still am a little now) into smoking the odd spliff, but that was fine because it got you high, and so the overall experience was pleasant, therefore had I not been sensible I could've easily saw myself becoming addicted to Ganja....
But fags? No way! Simply because there were no plus sides whatsoever - it just tasted shit and made you cough, and when I saw the effect it had on my mates after they had been smoking for a while: how unfit they got, the bad breath, nicotine stained fingers, etc, it put me off even more (and the girls they were trying to pull at the time :eyebrows:), and so filed it under 'seriously uncool' - quite the opposite to what it was purported as being!
So I stuck to booze and spliffs (in reasonable moderation for a daft teenager) and tried to stay as fit as possible. Apart from anything else, this paid off bigtime in the girly stakes, which at the time was way more important to me than succumbing to any peer pressure from some of my mates egging me on to smoke, just to be 'cool' ;)
It certainly wasn't 'cool' to me, and most of the decent looking girls would rather have gone out with a guy without yellow fingers and teeth who didn't stink like an ashtray!! At that time I was way more into girls, my motor bike, playing sports, and music.
Besides, I was always one for doing my own thing anyway (rarely have I ever let anyone else's behaviour influence me doing something I'm determined not to do), and my mates eventually respected me for it - so when they were puffing and wheezing running to catch the school bus, I used to take the piss out of them for becoming (and smelling) like old men! :lol:
Anyway, I digress......
So the question is, what makes smokers get past the initial 'horrid stage' of their first drag?
Because I simply don't believe that any of you as kids would've instantly fallen in love with the taste of a fag!!! :spew:
Marco.
P.S It would've been so easy for me to have smoked, too, as my old man owned chip-shops which sold every kind of fags you could think of, so it would've cost me f*ck all! ;)
Very simple, as I said on my earlier post...
Peer pressure, and trying to act big, hard, cool, and trendy...anyone that said they started for any other reason is either mad, or a liar ;)
Reid Malenfant
17-12-2010, 13:58
So the question is, what makes smokers get past the initial 'horrid stage' of their first drag?
Being high as a kite ;) Before you actually become addicted the nicotine rush is quite impressive, but then it all goes downhill as your system become used to the stuff :rolleyes: & then you are in the doo doo because you are an addict :eek:
Hi Will,
Very simple, as I said on my earlier post...
Peer pressure, and trying to act big, hard, cool, and trendy...anyone that said they started for any other reason is either mad, or a liar ;)
I guess so, and agree. Fortunately I was (and still am) a stubborn self-driven f*cker, so I wasn't influenced much by peer pressure.
Hi Mark,
Being high as a kite Before you actually become addicted the nicotine rush is quite impressive...
I get that. But from one quick drag - surely not? You'd have to initially tolerate the disgusting taste a bit to inhale enough nicotine in order to get the high you describe, surely? :scratch:
Quite simply, I couldn't get past the effect the rancid taste of fags had on me to develop an addiction.... And thank God for that!!
Marco.
The Vinyl Adventure
17-12-2010, 14:07
Yeah man smoking is fucking cool ... It gets you girls ... Especially the bad girls who like going behind the shed down the end of the field ...
Reid Malenfant
17-12-2010, 14:12
I get that. But from one quick drag - surely not? You'd have to initially tolerate the disgusting taste a bit to inhale enough nicotine in order to get the high you describe, surely? :scratch:
Agreed ;) I probably had my first ciggie at about the age of 10 or 11 & yes i certainly didn't like it :eek: Never touched the things again until i was about 13 or 14 when i was out by myself one time & managed to get through a whole one & followed through straight away with two more...
To say i was pretty smashed would be a very good description, i'd say it was pretty similar to being drunk but without the lethargy :eyebrows:
Needless to say you know where it led to :doh:
Rare Bird
17-12-2010, 14:17
Well she can have something to fiddle with anytime :eyebrows: The term St.Vitus dance (Rightly as will points out a track from Sabbs 'Vol.4) I use the term to describe someone that can't sit still..
I've never ever tried a fag, even when i was younger all my maters were puffing like chimneys on spliffs i was off with the fairy's on the more Psychedelic route :lolsign:
Being high as a kite ;) Before you actually become addicted the nicotine rush is quite impressive, but then it all goes downhill as your system become used to the stuff :rolleyes: & then you are in the doo doo because you are an addict :eek:
This story's a little cruel, but no long term damage was suffered...;)
About 5 or 6 years ago on new years eve myself and some like minded chums were in a very nice 'cafe' in Amsterdam called the 'ROKERY', one of my mates being a genuine cigar enthusiast had been to Davidoff store earlier that day, and bought himself something the size of a small nuclear device.
So we were lounging at the back of the cafe (all beanbags and Thai cushions), and a couple of young dutch kids turned to my mate and said (in a typical Harry Enfield dutch accent)..."Hey neat a hash shigar" to which he replied "yeah do you want a go"...they answered in the affirmative...he then added "You need to inhale strongly, and keep going otherwise it will go out".
They both turned visibly yellow, bloodshot eyes, and scampered off to the bathroom.
That's how strong a nicotine rush can be, even for someone who's used to smoking dutch cigarettes. :)
Hi Will,
I guess so, and agree. Fortunately I was (and still am) a stubborn self-driven f*cker, so I wasn't influenced much by peer pressure.
Hi Mark,
I get that. But from one quick drag - surely not? You'd have to initially tolerate the disgusting taste a bit to inhale enough nicotine in order to get the high you describe, surely? :scratch:
Quite simply, I couldn't get past the effect the rancid taste of fags had on me to develop an addiction.... And thank God for that!!
Marco.
If I could go back in time and change any one thing I did it would be smoking...it is the most useless drug in the world!!! :doh:
Rare Bird
17-12-2010, 14:44
& effects (non smokers) in more ways than they realise
Rare Bird
24-12-2010, 10:34
Well it's about 10 days since Cheryl kicked it in the head.She was going off on one yesterday fot a bit but i just shut off.Hopefully the online clothing sales should keep her occupied this afternoon.
Rare Bird
16-02-2011, 02:30
She's still not Smoking, i think she's done bloody well since mid December, we've had a few ding dongs as to be expected but i'm cool with that..
pe:I noticed all the 'Smoking' wurds have been highlighted in red :lol:
Beechwoods
16-02-2011, 08:09
Great stuff Andr'e. It will get easier as time goes on.
aquapiranha
16-02-2011, 08:55
Well done to your missus Andre.. I can't believe now that I used to smoke just a few years ago, what a tit I was! People who say they smoke because they enjoy it are kidding themselves, and I believe that they secretly long to be able to quit but they are just too weak! Plus, people who don't stop when they have kids, how selfish is that?
:)
She's still not Smoking, i think she's done bloody well since mid December, we've had a few ding dongs as to be expected but i'm cool with that..
pe:I noticed all the 'Smoking' wurds have been highlighted in red :lol:
Good on her :)
Filterlab
18-02-2011, 16:29
It's not easy, but it's worth it. It took me three attempts before I actually stopped, but I did; on 28th September 2006. Not touched one since - and I feel a thousand times better for it! :)
I will pack it in when I can find a decent filthy habit to replace it with :eyebrows:
I've been kinda smoke free since January 10th. Had a few on Monday and realised it wasn't worth going back to a 40 + a day habit. Not been easy and I could still go a wee puff. My wife and I have saved over £500 since quiting.
Rare Bird
18-02-2011, 17:36
Well that's it John she can't believe how much has built up in her saving since she stopped.
Even the cheapest 20 packs are over £5. And although I can get them illegally & cheaper ..it is simply a no no. I have type 2 diabetes and that and smoking are like a time bomb waiting to go off as I get older. It took my Mum & Dad from me as me dear auld faither died of Lung Cancer and me mum's ailments were mostly caused by the weed.
Rare Bird
12-12-2011, 04:09
As from 24 hours ago my wife took the decision to stop smoking..
I'm gonna resurect this thread because as from tomorrow the wife will have stopped smoking for one year, absolutly fantastic & no relapses..She has encountered close contact with smokers throughout the year but it didnt seem to have bothered her.
So well done Cheryl & i hope the next year is as easy.
:goodluck::kiss:
brian2957
12-12-2011, 06:48
Fantastic achievement Cheryl , well done . I stopped smoking 5 years ago
and it was the best thing I ever done ( also enforced BTW ) . I am now
healthier than I was 10 years ago . It only gets better and better :)
prestonchipfryer
12-12-2011, 08:30
Well done Cheryl. It's two years since I stopped. Best thing ever giving up.
John
Very well done Cheryl. I think never starting smoking was the smartest thing i ever did :)
I'm gonna resurect this thread because as from tomorrow the wife will have stopped smoking for one year, absolutly fantastic & no relapses..She has encountered close contact with smokers throughout the year but it didnt seem to have bothered her.
So well done Cheryl & i hope the next year is as easy.
Hear, hear, matey... Well done to Cheryl! :clap:
Marco.
worthingpagan
12-12-2011, 12:42
Good on Cheryl, that's a bloody good achievement :clapclapclap:
I gave up once :stalks:
Lasted a whole week before i nearly throttled my neighbour :rolleyes:
Well done Mrs Andr'e :)
My wife enjoyed the odd puff until I came along and she packed it in for good. I've been paying for it ever since :(
I really NEED to pack them in...as my doc told me earlier this year I'm a walking time bomb waiting to go off..:( I ..WILL pack them in this January..:rolleyes:
Reid Malenfant
12-12-2011, 21:25
I really NEED to pack them in...as my doc told me earlier this year I'm a walking time bomb waiting to go off..:( I ..WILL pack them in this January..:rolleyes:
Lets do it together John ;) I have vowed that once both the booze & tobacco run out that I won't be looking for more :eek:
I reckon I'll run out of tobacco by about the beginning of February (might be earlier though) & the booze will run out in January for sure :eyebrows:
I really need to get some energy & lower my blood pressure, I have loads to do & a third BP test at the docs on the 19th :rolleyes: If this one is high I go on meds :(
By the way - WELL DONE CHERYL!!!!
Just don't do what I did and think after 3 years smoke free you can have the odd ciggy with a drink... before you know it... :doh:
Reid Malenfant
12-12-2011, 21:41
Just don't do what I did and think after 3 years smoke free you can have the odd ciggy with a drink... before you know it... :doh:
I'm not sure who the hell started you smoking again Alex, but I do bear some guilt slipping outside for a smoke at Scalford last year :(
I'm going to go for it early next year, I know I'm not going to like it but I'll attempt to vent my frustration into work done. Might keep my mind off of it - I'm hoping. Kicking the booze will result in a few nights disrupted sleep, I know as I had to not too long ago as I was on antibiotics.
The booze will be easier, but I can do the smoking as well if I don't get stressed - which I don't tend to these days. They'll be at different times to, another good point :eyebrows:
I'm not sure who the hell started you smoking again Alex, but I do bear some guilt slipping outside for a smoke at Scalford last year :(
Don't be daft - nothing to do with you fella. Was actually my wife who thought we'd be able to handle the odd one or 3 - well, maybe to start with, but it soon reels you in (though I only smoke a tiny percentage of what I used to, and currently on the wagon again...) Worst thing is when you have a drink - so quitting that first is definitely a good idea. I've pretty much stopped in the week, but still enjoy a few glasses of red wine at the weekend. Think I'm going to go for the whole of January drink and smoke free, though. I won't live any longer - but it sure as hell will feel like it!
Anyway, we digress - well done Cheryl - don't make the mistakes I have!
Reid Malenfant
12-12-2011, 21:53
<snip> Was actually my wife who thought we'd be able to handle the odd one or 3 - well, maybe to start with, but it soon reels you in (though I only smoke a tiny percentage of what I used to, and currently on the wagon again...) Worst thing is when you have a drink - so quitting that first is definitely a good idea.
Good & bad to know Alex ;) Pleased I wasn't too bad an influence :)
I smoke more when drinking as I'm sure you would, so the highlighted above is so correct :) Thankfully the sauce will run out before the tobacco ;)
He smokes when drinking tea, so there's no hope for him I'm afraid :D
I lost my mother to Emphysema and my Dad to a smoking related (passive smoking) cancer. To read a post from someone else elsewhere, saying he was slipping out for a fag (of the cigarette kind I think) - and this, little more than a year after major heart surgery I understand, had me mad :steam: All that effort and expense and he still smokes... Apologies if I read it wrongly..
prestonchipfryer
13-12-2011, 10:13
STOP SMOKING. Get some nicotine patches from your GP and some nicotine chewing gum. Slowly cut down on the amont of fags smoked and in about three months you should be able to say bye-bye to them. Try to give yourself a good reason to stop. I.e: save the money spent on fags towards a new piece of equipment or some music. Worked for me, and I used to smoke heavily. Hope this doesn't come over as patronising as it's not meant to be.
Regards - John :)
Anyone going to quit should use an NRT aid..cold turkey is maybe the most stisfying way but it can be a pure bastard. I tried a while back lasted one week put on half a stone and went back to the fags smoking more than before. Niquitin Lozenges are a good choice you control how many you use and after a few months cut them down gradually..only downside is they make you fart and believe me them farts stink ..
worthingpagan
13-12-2011, 12:15
I don't want to stop smoking. I'm over 18, i pay my taxes and make my own decisions. I'm afraid I don't have time for the "Anti-smoking brigade", their hypocrisy and controlling attitudes pisses me off :steam:
brian2957
13-12-2011, 12:27
Don't be daft - nothing to do with you fella. Was actually my wife who thought we'd be able to handle the odd one or 3 - well, maybe to start with, but it soon reels you in (though I only smoke a tiny percentage of what I used to, and currently on the wagon again...) Worst thing is when you have a drink - so quitting that first is definitely a good idea. I've pretty much stopped in the week, but still enjoy a few glasses of red wine at the weekend. Think I'm going to go for the whole of January drink and smoke free, though. I won't live any longer - but it sure as hell will feel like it!
Anyway, we digress - well done Cheryl - don't make the mistakes I have!
Only my opinion mate but don't try to stop smoking and drinking at the same time . It's too much at once . I stopped drinking at first and then when I was ready , 10 months later ,I stopped smoking. Best moves I ever made , I can enjoy myself without either now . Now for the choccy biccies:)
Rare Bird
13-12-2011, 13:02
I don't want to stop smoking. I'm over 18, i pay my taxes and make my own decisions. I'm afraid I don't have time for the "Anti-smoking brigade", their hypocrisy and controlling attitudes pisses me off :steam:
Well when you eventually fall very ill with some smoking related illness i hope they shut the door in your face. you may pay your taxes but we also have to pay for people like you when you do get ill.
Well when you eventually fall very ill with some smoking related illness i hope they shut the door in your face. you may pay your taxes but we also have to pay for people like you when you do get ill.
So best to ban all sport as well because of the cost of treating all the injuries people get. And drinking - and overeating - etc etc that makes no sense whatsoever Andre :scratch:
Rare Bird
13-12-2011, 13:07
you a smoker then martin?
good deduction :)
I'm good though - I only smoke in the evenings and at weekends. I'm not a slave to it - I do it because I enjoy it not because I have no choice. I'd rather just smoke cigars but I can't afford it :(
Rare Bird
13-12-2011, 13:12
Dont give me that not a slave to it crap martin,
You must be an ex-smoker then Andre. I sense your zeal
Rare Bird
13-12-2011, 13:17
Ive never smoked in my life .
Fair enough mate, I stand corrected. It is a bad habit to get into but then I long since stopped grieving over my bad habits...
Smoking is a choice made by everyone..No one forces anyone to start and no one ever forces someone to stop. If smoking weren't addicitive no one would smoke. If it was harmless most folk would probably smoke.
worthingpagan
13-12-2011, 15:59
Well when you eventually fall very ill with some smoking related illness i hope they shut the door in your face. you may pay your taxes but we also have to pay for people like you when you do get ill.
Oh really? Like i really care what you think Andre.
Reid Malenfant
13-12-2011, 16:47
Calm down lads ;)
I'm giving up simply because I have things I want to do, but will stand no chance of getting done if I keep drinking & smoking. I effectively waste a good 4 hours or more a day just getting to the stage where I feel I can now do some useful work.
Takes the mickey, that needs to be straight after some breakfast, not after topping up with god knows how many coffees :rolleyes:
So I'll save about £40 a week, get work done & get fitter at the same time, loose a bit of weight & on top of that I'll stop stinking of stale tobacco.
Strangely that sounds like a pretty good deal to me :eyebrows:
Good on yer Missus Andre. Keep telling her you’ll kiss her more now she doesn’t smell like an ashtray and how much better her skin looks.
I’m in my third month now. I have had a couple of relapses but got back on the rails pretty quick.
It’s hard for those who haven’t smoked to appreciate just how hard giving up can be.
I’ve been lucky and haven’t put on weight, my waist is still 12” smaller than my chest, but not being a drinker helps; I haven’t taken up any of the other habits like chewing gum or eating sweets either.
I think putting on weight is a major concern for women who give up, so hide the chocolates Andre.
Just get on with it Mark. I'll see you at dancing classes later mate. :eyebrows:
Rare Bird
13-12-2011, 21:26
Oh really? Like i really care what you think Andre.
O great i chance to re use my ignore member settings
Oh really? Like i really care what you think Andre.
Mark, you're becoming confrontational again, just like you did before with the political stuff... I thought we'd resolved all that crap? :rolleyes:
Rein the attitude in, please. If you don't like what some other people think about smoking, then either ignore it/them or reply and politely disagree, stating your position on the matter in a non-aggressive fashion - ta!
No other type of behaviour will be tolerated. I hope that I've made myself clear.
Marco.
worthingpagan
14-12-2011, 07:35
Mark, you're becoming confrontational again, just like you did before with the political stuff... I thought we'd resolved all that crap? :rolleyes:
Rein the attitude in, please. If you don't like what some other people think about smoking, then either ignore it/them or reply and politely disagree, stating your position on the matter in a non-aggressive fashion - ta!
No other type of behaviour will be tolerated. I hope that I've made myself clear.
Marco.
Marco, the guy wished me dead, am i not allowed to defend myself now?
worthingpagan
14-12-2011, 07:52
As it happens, i've had enough of being singled out by contradictory and hypocritical moderation. Please feel free to ban me.
Hi Mark,
Marco, the guy wished me dead, am i not allowed to defend myself now?
Andre's comment was over the top, but it was prompted by your earlier, confrontational and rather provocative remark of:
I don't want to stop smoking. I'm over 18, i pay my taxes and make my own decisions. I'm afraid I don't have time for the "Anti-smoking brigade", their hypocrisy and controlling attitudes pisses me off :steam:
...which was obviously a rant at people's views here that you considered as being representative of the "Anti-smoking brigade" - and *that* is precisely what has caused this situation. Therefore, there has been no "contradictory and hypocritical moderation"; merely me targeting what I consider has instigated this dispute.
The problem is, Mark, that when it comes to subjects you have strong views about (certain issues relating to politics, and now smoking), you don't seem able to conduct yourself in manner which shows due respect to the contrary opinions of others (a primary directive of our ethos), and as such have a habit of winding people up and creating ill feeling, in the off-topic sections of the forum.
Take your signature, for example, of "I'm Anti-Capitalist". What message does that send out to members who may be of that political persuasion? I let that one slide, as I didn't want you thinking that I was getting on your back again, but the fact that you feel the need to make such a statement, on what is an audio and music forum, sends out all the wrong signals!
Like I've said before, we don't give a flying fuck what people's political views are (we'd rather that they kept them to themselves), but we certainly won't put up with people who insist upon ramming those views home in an inflammatory way, whenever they feel suitably irked.
We just don't want that kind of crap here, so whilst you have done nothing to warrant being banned, if you can't control your emotions when it comes to the subjects I've outlined, then perhaps you should consider whether you really fit in here or not.
Marco.
worthingpagan
14-12-2011, 09:00
Points taken marco. i will remove the offending comments on my profile, and the offensive picture of wolfie smith, and also i'll remove the reference to rock music just in case. i'll keep my name though if that's not too offensive for people? As i joined primarily to discuss hifi i won't post in the off topic forum, even though it says off topic I must have misunderstood what actually is off topic, like smoking or not smoking etc.
Wolfie Smith was fine (I happen to like the programme), but not the signature which accompanied your avatar, so thanks for removing it and agreeing to temper your future contributions accordingly :)
Marco.
The Grand Wazoo
14-12-2011, 09:10
That's a rather ridiculous attitude to take Mark.
You know very well that you can discuss any topic you like - it's how you discuss it that's the issue.
Oi, daftee, I was ignoring the 'petted lip' part of his response, for the sake of harmony! ;)
Marco.
worthingpagan
14-12-2011, 09:33
That's a rather ridiculous attitude to take Mark.
You know very well that you can discuss any topic you like - it's how you discuss it that's the issue.
OK Chris, point taken, I need to change my attitude also. Please, which part of me is it acceptable for me to post like?
Drop it, Mark, otherwise I'll drop it for you. You don't seem to know when to shut up. Now enough!
Marco.
worthingpagan
14-12-2011, 09:41
Happy Christmas Marco :pub:
Rare Bird
14-12-2011, 10:19
Marco, the guy wished me dead, am i not allowed to defend myself now?
:scratch: No i did not (Don't put words into my mouth & don't use that cop out as an excuse)..I mearly pointed out that when you get very ill due to a smoking related illness, of which some are non reversable you expect the NHS to finance your life long treatment! treatment that vastly outweighs your life long tax contributions. How far do you think your Tax contributions go eh?
I beieve the NHS should refuse to treat smoking related illness, millions have been pumped into getting the message across as to what smoking does for your health, if you choose to ignore that hard lines for them.
Of course over-drinking & over-eating have detrimental effects on your health but that's for another topic, not this.
Outright ban smoking in public can't come quick enough imho, outcast them like they do with Drug addicts
Do you smokers really understand what non smokers go through putting up with it? Ie: i was sat outside a cafe the other day having a drink of Tea out of the blue a smoker sits down & lights up, before we knew it smokes blown our way.. on confrontation we got the usual self-righteous shit ''i can do what the hell i like regarding smoking''! That's acceptable is it? No it's not but thats a prime example of what you people's attitudes are.
I'm finished on the matter, im not arguing on a thread thats suppose to be a celebration of Cheryl's sucessfull year of giving up the ciggie.
:scratch: No i did not (Don't put words into my mouth & don't use that cop out as an excuse)..I mearly pointed out that when you get very ill due to a smoking related illness, of which some are non reversable you expect the NHS to finance your life long treatment! treatment that vastly outweighs your life long tax contributions. How far do you think your Tax contributions go eh?
I beieve the NHS should refuse to treat smoking related illness, millions have been pumped into getting the message across as to what smoking does for your health, if you choose to ignore that hard lines for them.
Of course over-drinking & over-eating have detrimental effects on your health but that's for another topic, not this.
Outright ban smoking in public can't come quick enough imho, outcast them like they do with Drug addicts
Do you smokers really understand what non smokers go through putting up with it? Ie: i was sat outside a cafe the other day having a drink of Tea out of the blue a smoker sits down & lights up, before we knew it smokes blown our way.. on confrontation we got the usual self-righteous shit ''i can do what the hell i like regarding smoking''! That's acceptable is it? No it's not but thats a prime example of what you people's attitudes are.
I'm finished on the matter, im not arguing on a thread thats suppose to be a celebration of Cheryl's sucessfull year of giving up the ciggie.
Indeed, and so let's not taint the positive message behind that celebration any further. Well done to Cheryl, and here's to another year of her being smoking-free! :cool:
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Marco.
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