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Reid Malenfant
08-10-2010, 19:53
I'm sure someone here will be able to tell me if the above is a reasonable turntable. Im only asking as i recently saw a post on here where the poster had arranged to ship his G99 to Italy. This kind of surprised me tbh as i can't find a lot of information about this TT at all :scratch:

Yes i know what it is as i have one sat in the loft & i used to listen to it as a kid when my father decided to have some sounds on the record deck :eyebrows:

So what's with the G99? Is it worth anything, if so i might as well do something about it :)

RobsterD
08-10-2010, 20:50
Up there with the Garrards ,very nice certainly worth some TLC and mounting in a decent plinth with a decent 12" arm.

The Vinyl Adventure
08-10-2010, 22:04
how is it possible that people have these things just hanging around in the loft... im currently hanging around in my loft, hannah is here, she is quite lovely, but she is a rubbish record player

DSJR
08-10-2010, 22:07
Wasn't there a great G99 plinth for sale here, or was it on Timestep, or Crossover Network? Anyways, the G99 in good fettle and with a good or restored bearing, is up in the 301/401 class. All the idler harmonics are out of phase due to the vertical drive, fine for mono and managable for stereo if the plinth and idler are right..

Reid Malenfant
08-10-2010, 22:15
how is it possible that people have these things just hanging around in the loft... im currently hanging around in my loft, hannah is here, she is quite lovely, but she is a rubbish record player
Ha ha ha ha, Hamish it hasn't been used for years, like the SME 3009 arm i sold a while ago to Joe ;) Yeah, it's chillin in the loft :eyebrows:

Wasn't there a great G99 plinth for sale here, or was it on Timestep, or Crossover Network? Anyways, the G99 in good fettle and with a good or restored bearing, is up in the 301/401 class. All the idler harmonics are out of phase due to the vertical drive, fine for mono and managable for stereo if the plinth and idler are right..
Cheers Dave, i can see you know much more about this TT than i do ;) All i remember was it sounding pretty good, but i was younger then. Still it made an incredible impression compared to all the music centres out there :lolsign:

Alex_UK
08-10-2010, 22:16
Wasn't there a great G99 plinth for sale here

Yes - I believe it was the very same deck that went to Italy leaving the plinth for sale that inspired the original post.

DSJR
08-10-2010, 22:29
The only possible weakness is the main bearing, which should be ok to be fair.

The tragedy is that Technical & general, who stocked lenco idlers and many other spares, has closed due to retirement i understand. the Lenco specialist sites may have alternative suppliers..

Yep, I do know these, having owned a G88 very early on for a short while and a number of GL75's over the years, which use the same drive system, albeit with a pressed steel chassis.

RobsterD
08-10-2010, 22:38
flyfisher was the guy selling .

Barry
09-10-2010, 02:00
I tried to buy a Garrard 401 in the late '60s, to no avail. I used a Collaro 2020 rim-drive deck to 'tide me over'. I then tried to get hold of a Goldring G99, again to no luck, so I said "sod it" - bought a used (~10 hours) Thorens TD124/II and never looked back.

If you can get hold of a G99 in good condition, it will be the equal of any 301/401.

John
09-10-2010, 05:21
The G99 will be worth a bit of tender love and care agree with others about it performing at a similar level to 301/401 Be really nice on a slate plinth

hifi_dave
09-10-2010, 09:43
I've still got the G99 I bought back in the early 60's. It was competition for the 301, 401 back then but with a touch of 'futuristic' styling for the period.

It's mounted on a Howland West plinth with SME 3009 Imp and Shure V15 original. A decent plinth is on my long list of things to do but it looks so nice and retro as it is that I am loathe to butcher it. Maybe, one day..:scratch:

Stratmangler
09-10-2010, 09:49
how is it possible that people have these things just hanging around in the loft... im currently hanging around in my loft, hannah is here, she is quite lovely, but she is a rubbish record player

Hamish's S&M Dungeon ?
Lucky boy :eyebrows:

Reid Malenfant
09-10-2010, 12:49
If you can get hold of a G99 in good condition, it will be the equal of any 301/401.
I'm sure it'll be in good condition, it's had a distinct lack of use since about 1980 or a tad earlier like the SME3009 i sold on here to Joe recently.

The G99 will be worth a bit of tender love and care agree with others about it performing at a similar level to 301/401 Be really nice on a slate plinth
I'm sure it would, i just don't think i'll be the person giving it what it needs unfortunately ;) I have got so much on my plate i honestly don't need anything else to do :eyebrows:

I think i'll check it for functionality & then consider letting someone else have some fun :)

John
09-10-2010, 12:55
I might be interested always wanted a nice g99 to play with be a great backup TT

Reid Malenfant
09-10-2010, 13:26
:lol: Time to reel in the fishy 2787


:eyebrows:

I'll have to find out if all is well with it & give it a clean up etc before i decide what to do John. Then i'll need to do a little research & see if i can attempt to find out what the thing might be worth as frankly i have no idea :scratch:

The Vinyl Adventure
09-10-2010, 14:14
I'd also like to wave my arms about in interest for it... Especially if it's White, as that would please the missis and fit in with her idea fr a retro tt :)
Obviously John can have dubs before me if you do decide to sell!

Reid Malenfant
09-10-2010, 14:20
Hi Hamish, from what i remember it's exactly the same as this one here (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showpost.php?p=154902&postcount=1) ;)

The platter is white if that helps :eyebrows:

The Vinyl Adventure
09-10-2010, 14:25
It certainly would... Well just let us know what you decide to do... But like I said, im only interested after previous people who have shown interest have declined :)

The Vinyl Adventure
09-10-2010, 14:29
As it goes I have sort of ruled out a 301 for the expense since my thread o enquiery into a White turntable... I was looking as a thorens 124 on the advice of andre, but this direction looks as though it could be less expensive still?

John
09-10-2010, 14:37
Hamish I be getting a Salvation soon so you can have first dibs if that is ok with Mark for me it just be over indulgence

DSJR
09-10-2010, 14:46
A TD124 is a lovely thing, but it seems that some people have found a way of making a really good living out of spares etc. The G99 wasn't afflicted this way but may be now if someone sees a good business oportunity going..

The Vinyl Adventure
09-10-2010, 14:50
Hamish I be getting a Salvation soon so you can have first dibs if that is ok with Mark for me it just be over indulgence

Don't let me elbow my way to the front of the cue buddy... If/when he decides to sell it let's play it by ear... I apriciate the sentiment though buddy!

How much is somethin like this be likely to be worth anyway?

The Vinyl Adventure
09-10-2010, 14:52
A TD124 is a lovely thing, but it seems that some people have found a way of making a really good living out of spares etc. The G99 wasn't afflicted this way but may be now if someone sees a good business oportunity going..

I'm def aiming for budget vintage with style here... So if I can avoid "bandwagon" products I'd be happier!
Just showed a piccy to Hannah and she approves :)

Rare Bird
09-10-2010, 14:55
I'd also like to wave my arms about in interest for it... Especially if it's White, as that would please the missis and fit in with her idea fr a retro tt :)



It's the Goldring/Lenco 88 if it's white you want

DSJR
09-10-2010, 15:02
Andr'e, there's "white" and there's "white." Don't confuse the poor chap :D

The Vinyl Adventure
09-10-2010, 15:11
Dave, that doesn't help either! ;)

Rare Bird
09-10-2010, 15:13
:lol:

John
09-10-2010, 15:18
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160485369011
gone up in value since I last looked

Barry
09-10-2010, 15:27
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160485369011
gone up in value since I last looked

£265 - they're nipping at the heels of the Garrard's. Does look lovely though.

Regards

The Vinyl Adventure
09-10-2010, 15:28
Even so that sorta ball park is much more attainable to me than the crazy money for thorens or a 301...


http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/bln/100507/618r2/802378f_23.jpeg?set_id=2C4000

I showed this to Hannah and she said that she loves it and would chip towards achieving something like that!!

John
09-10-2010, 15:37
When I last looked they used to go for about £120 when they came up

Rare Bird
09-10-2010, 15:39
Aye i have thought around that mark depending on condition

Flyfisher
09-10-2010, 23:02
All this talking behind my back:lolsign:

I advertised my G99 for months and months and no one took any notice, then when one sold on ebay for over £400 I advertised mine.

This was my ebay advert which may answer your questions about the G99 or G88 (same deck, earlier model no strobe)

Up for unreserved auction is my rare Goldring G99 turntable turntable, dating back to 1966.

Goldring were the UK importers of the Swiss Lenco turntables and the G99 was made especially for Goldring to compete in the Garrard301/401 and Thorens TD124 markets.

It became known as the poor manís Garrard/Thorens!!

In certain respects it was better than the 401, especially with regard to transmission of motor vibration to the pickup cartridge; the Lenco motor is superbly balanced and the turntable is less prone to ringing than the bell-shaped 401 platter.

The G99 is no lightweight and weighs over 7 kg. I anticipate the shipping weight to be about 10 kg.

It is in good condition and was fully serviced by the previous owner using a good quality oil and he also fitted a NOS Spindle and bearing..

I completed the refurbishment as advised by the experts on Lenco Heaven who guided me & told me to strip away all the damping material (see last photo of how it arrived with me) which then showed the date of August 1966 being a moment in time when England could play football & win World Cups.

***THE WORLD CUP GOLDRING G99****

They further recommended to replace the power cable and earth it to the motor, then to fill in the surround of the pan with a plywood infill so that the maximum of the G99 pan would be in contact with the plinth.

It comes with the original instruction manual and mounting template, however the mounting template has been used previously so has some small holes in it, but it is still very serviceable

It comes with the original G99 turntable mat PLUS a GL72 turntable mat.

I also have the two transit screws to secure the motor and the original Goldring packaging.

Please see my other auction for the solid beech plinth for the G99.

This is a 240v model.

I will post to Europe.

I still have the solid beech hardwood plinth and the M5 threaded rod and fixing to secure the G99 to the plinth, which has 2 uncut armboards, see my advert in the classifieds.

Go and buy yourself a nice G99/G88 plus my plinth but do look at Lenco Heaven as they are the Lenco gurus.

Flyfisher
09-10-2010, 23:09
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/goldring-lenco-88-turntable-great-original-condition-/320600161308?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item4aa5423c1c

DSJR
10-10-2010, 10:11
AS ABOVE - with bells and whistles on :)

John
10-10-2010, 10:15
Far to costly for me for a 2nd tt Sorry Roger

Rare Bird
10-10-2010, 10:30
Be patient Hamish you don't have to pay the silly prices people ask.They are totally not worth it.

Flyfisher
10-10-2010, 10:42
Be patient Hamish you don't have to pay the silly prices people ask.They are totally not worth it.

I agree that particular G88 is well over priced for its condition.

You should be able to pick up a good condition G99 for between £245-£300 then plinth it etc.

For that money you would be hard pressed to do better IMHO.

DSJR
10-10-2010, 13:57
I paid less than £25 for a G88 with 12" mk1 SME all those years ago. Regarding investment value - if only........................ :scratch:

The Vinyl Adventure
10-10-2010, 14:32
That's coz your old

The Vinyl Adventure
10-10-2010, 14:33
;)

DSJR
10-10-2010, 15:39
That's coz your old

Aren't I just...

Reid Malenfant
10-10-2010, 16:37
So all in all it's worth dragging that heavy platter & spinner out of the loft then :eyebrows: I do remember that the platter is very heavy, probably solid steel. If i remember correctly it was removed from the TT itself & in my mad mind this might just have preserved the idler wheel a bit better :scratch:

Good to know :) I might go hunting this coming week...

Rare Bird
10-10-2010, 17:12
So all in all it's worth dragging that heavy platter & spinner out of the loft then :eyebrows: I do remember that the platter is very heavy, probably solid steel.



Ally

Reid Malenfant
10-10-2010, 17:17
Ally
Really? That's some damn heavy alloy whatever it is :eyebrows:

Rare Bird
10-10-2010, 18:31
Aye very heavy, turn it upside down you'll see it a very well made platter & very thick.

DSJR
10-10-2010, 19:08
It's a Mazak kind of alloy isn't it?

Reid Malenfant
10-10-2010, 19:16
Aye very heavy, turn it upside down you'll see it a very well made platter & very thick.
Yep, pretty thick to say the least. The rim is thick as well - i guess that made room for the strobe black bits on the bottom.

It's a Mazak kind of alloy isn't it?
I have no idea Dave, i just remember thinking WTF when i removed it :lol:

Flyfisher
11-10-2010, 21:59
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/flyfisher_album/G99/th_Platter.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/flyfisher_album/G99/?action=view&current=Platter.jpg)

No light weight platter here.

Reid Malenfant
08-01-2011, 18:57
I guess this auction is answering my original question (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Goldring-Lenco-G99-Transcription-Turntable-Serviced-/270686202743?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item3f0627ab77) :eek: Looks like a few people are after it & those close up pics don't show it to be in the best condition either :eyebrows:

Time it came out of the loft :)

DSJR
08-01-2011, 21:42
Lenco's have finally been "discovered" and prices are shooting up (I should have kept the GL75 I had untilo a year ago).

The next big thing in the UK at any rate will be the handful of Sony TTS-3000's around and about. This model measured and sounded better (less noises) than the 401, TD124 and G99 it was put up against way back in 1968, although I get the impression not many were sold over here..