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Barry
02-07-2026, 13:45
I'm posting this here as it not directly related to hi-fi, although the installation did have an unwanted impact on my system.

To begin at the beginning: I have been having problems with my internet provider, who suggested that they would be eliminated if I was to move from the copper cable connection (which has served me very well for well over twenty years) to fibre optic cable. I was initially reluctant, but was persuaded by the fact that the copper system would be switched off within 5 years. That fact and a renegotiation of my contract, which is now cheaper than before, convinced me to have the work done.

The immediate impact was the cable would have to enter at the front of the house, exactly where my system is located - and I have absolutely no intention of changing it.


https://i.postimg.cc/pTWwt1Xw/20260616-134742-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

As you can see the corner of the room where I have my system is right where the cable would enter, and where the optical fibre to electrical converter would be fitted. Not only is there very limited space, there are audio cables which run under the floor to monoblock amplifiers each located directly behind the respective speaker, and it was essential that these not be damaged. So the whole unit, equipment and LPs had to be removed, and a large heavy sofa moved so the engineer could work:


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I had already marked where the unit had to be fitted, and pointed to the cables which I didn't want disturbed. Fortunately the engineer understood and did a very neat job of the fitting the converter and drilling through the wall to a junction box he fitted on the outside:


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The whole would be covered by a heavy curtain and as the converter consumes a minimal amount of power it does not get warm. So now the LP rack and equipment could be moved back, taking advantage of the opportunity to simplify and shorten the cabling (I'm a great believer in having the shortest practical length cables between the various items of gear); I was able to remove a few metres of cable.


https://i.postimg.cc/MGncYxB2/20260621-173252-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I have yet to replace the LPs, as I want to make sure I don't need to make any more changes to the cabling.


So all's well that ends well? No not really! I had been hoping that I could use the existing wiring feeding my router, which is located at the far end of the room; the wiring for which is neatly hidden by the carpet. No it cannot, the electrical link to the router now uses bloody Ethernet cabling, which means the router will now have to be sat on the window sill, near the fibre optic converter. Now my laptop is wireless, but my partner's is not. Not only that, she likes to use hers sat at a table at the far end of the room where the router was. So either I buy her a wireless laptop, or use a 10 metre Ethernet cable which can be run out when she want's to use her existing computer. The latter is obviously cheaper, but is totally against my ethos of not having cables snaking around the room!

I do have a plan where I can still use the existing wiring to connect the landline phone to the router in its new position. The only other concern is the fibre optic converter and router now have to be plugged into a socket that is part of a dedicated ring I had installed just for my audio system. These two units each use a SMPS, which is undesirable; but I have to confess I can hear no degradation in sound, and a suitable linear power supply is just too expensive.

As you can see, I'm not entirely happy with the way things are turning out - exacerbated by the fact that a conduit has to be laid from the path across the front of my house, down the front lawn to carry the fibre optic from the road up to the newly installed junction box on the front of the house. I was told that would be done within 10 days, or sooner. That was a fortnight ago, and I'm still waiting!

CageyH
02-07-2026, 17:43
My installation was done under the garden in the existing conduit, using the copper wire to pull the fibre optic through. It enters into my garage, goes underneath the utility room and kitchen and into the entrance hall, all using the existing conduit.

Was using existing conduit not an option?

Pigmy Pony
02-07-2026, 18:11
My installation was done under the garden in the existing conduit, using the copper wire to pull the fibre optic through. It enters into my garage, goes underneath the utility room and kitchen and into the entrance hall, all using the existing conduit.

Was using existing conduit not an option?

That is a very good point Kevin, and it makes me wonder whether they did exactly that with our fibre cable. There are no signs of any excavation in the garden or under the lawn, and no matter how neat a job they did I would have noticed.

Barry
02-07-2026, 18:33
Our house was built long before they thought about laying conduit for any service, be it gas, water, electricity or telephone, let alone internet.

I'll let you know what happens, when they come along and do lay the conduit for the fibre optic.

CageyH
03-07-2026, 03:27
True, but your copper broadband was added later?

Barry
03-07-2026, 06:28
Hello Kevin,

There is a telephone junction trap in the road away from the house and there is a small inspection point just in front of the house near the path. So there will be a duct or conduit connecting the two. But the copper telephone/broadband cable was simply laid in the earth alongside the path, whence it emerges from the apron near the front door and enters the house about 10cm above the apron. The engineer was expecting to find a conduit between the small inspection trap and the house, but there is none.

I'm hoping a new conduit will be laid very soon, and the work finished. Then I can report back what and how it was done.

Cheers

CageyH
03-07-2026, 06:36
Good luck Barry.
I hope you get this sorted soon.

Maelstrom
03-07-2026, 07:18
...Now my laptop is wireless, but my partner's is not. Not only that, she likes to use hers sat at a table at the far end of the room where the router was. So either I buy her a wireless laptop, or use a 10 metre Ethernet cable which can be run out when she want's to use her existing computer. The latter is obviously cheaper, but is totally against my ethos of not having cables snaking around the room!


Morning Barrry

Sorry to hear that your internet upgrade is causing you some hassle.

WRT your partners laptop, have you considered a USB wifi dongle? It would appear to be a solution?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/UGREEN-Adapter-Wireless-connection-Supports/dp/B0DK14GTR2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=ZPUAGR1WCSGP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MZZKvtOTekdCUzR0Wbq-yiWQKzc5FJ1LzYusoHtkXZF4UqEuYGFbqypDc9s95UIzzCCkss s0jZL9FUjuYI7q2uzp27uzsR9vTNvNwpkiNq2FS7C_vHmIuDlr o_aHUuTrejwdzB4TzArKKMDWXxNAe36komBx2KihkKDyBR_kOb JJu3VepsX5odPULvz_RWJ6_VtEdVxmMwXq4bW54ZT30iZ4R4qF 7v8DQ1kmVrUI0Hs.3jPHUFq2bJRY2hi3cfQ_W59yAMuBSoD54H ukpwqir1M&dib_tag=se&keywords=usb%2Bwifi%2B6%2Badapter%2Bfor%2Bpc&qid=1783062913&sprefix=usb%2Bwifi%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-3&th=1

Barry
03-07-2026, 07:31
Hello Alistair,

Thanks for the suggestion, it sounds like the perfect solution! :) I'll buy two: one for her laptop and one for my ancient PC, which I still use occasionally.

Thanks again
Barry

Maelstrom
03-07-2026, 08:17
Hello Alistair,

Thanks for the suggestion, it sounds like the perfect solution! :) I'll buy two: one for her laptop and one for my ancient PC, which I still use occasionally.

Thanks again
Barry

Hi Barry, glad to help.

You mention ancient PC, just make sure that the device is compatible with your operating system.

Barry
03-07-2026, 10:53
As an update, a couple of 'civil engineers' have just arrived to lay a 1cm diameter conduit from the small inspection trap, run it down the garden so as to have it emerge close to the external fibre optic junction box at the front of the house.

I will still have to wait for another team of people to come and actually install the fibre optic cable and connect it all up to the router. I do wonder if the task will ever get finished! :rolleyes:

Barry
03-07-2026, 22:19
The Epilogue

Well it all happened today: first the conduit was laid 6" deep in the ground, which only took about an hour to do, then a couple of hours later an engineer arrived to actually fit the fibre optic and set up the system.

That was when things went a bit awry. The engineer could not get a signal to register at the fibre to copper converter box. It turned out the previous engineer had damaged the fibre optic when he passed it through the wall to the junction box on the outside of the house. Fortunately the second engineer was able repair the fibre optic and get the system up and running. Well done that lass!

I'm afraid my idea to still keep the land line phone where it was, wouldn't work, so I'll replace it with a wireless version which will work anywhere. Still don't really like the idea of having the router on the widow sill, but it's the only place where it is off the floor.