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Macca
01-08-2025, 07:31
Looks like Denis Villeneuve will be directing the next one.

Not sure about that. He says he's a fan since childhood but the only film he's done that I've seen was the dismal Blade Runner sequel.

Still not known who will play Bond. Favourite is Aaron Taylor-Johnson who I suppose does look the part and he was good in the 'Kick Ass' films.

I suppose since they killed Bond off in the last miserable effort they can start again with a clean slate but I'm not holding out too much hope.

Franchise has been sold to Amazon/MGM in the meantime.

I know what you're thinking and you're right - at least it isn't Disney. But still:

''According to reports, Amazon was insisting on expanding the Bond series into a shared universe similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) with additional materials such as spin-off films and television series, with one idea thrown around being a prequel series centred on Miss Moneypenny.

Broccoli was harshly dismissive of the proposals, and was quoted as saying "Don't let temporary people make permanent decisions," a quote credited to her father Albert R. Broccoli. Broccoli was more notably quoted as calling executives at Amazon "fucking idiots."

Macca
01-08-2025, 07:40
Aside from crap stories and direction the biggest problem with Craig era Bond was involving the regular supporting characters - Q, M, Moneypenny - in the action.

Anyone with a basic grasp of storytelling knows that these characters only exist for exposition purposes and to add a bit of comic relief. Q getting impatient with Bond's casual attitude, M getting irritated by Bond being a know-it-all. Moneypenny acting like a mother hen.

They're not supposed to actually be in the adventure - you're supposed to invent new, interesting characters for that. So lazy and amateurish.

Let's see it done properly:

Goldfinger 'Brandy scene'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlkCWzakkVo

Barry
01-08-2025, 08:56
I couldn't care less about future Bond sequels. All of the Ian Fleming Bond books have been filmed with uneven success. Any new Bond films will be action films based on the characters, most likely with a lot of 'gee whizz' CGI special effects.

With respect to Denis Villeneuve's direction of 'Bladerunner 2049', I thought it was a good sequel, hampered by a complicated story line covering the chain of events that cover the collapse of the Tyrell Corporation through to their recovery decades later. That, and the new development of Replicants, mean the film needs to be viewed several times (including the extras) for it to make sense.

Macca
01-08-2025, 11:03
I couldn't care less about future Bond sequels. All of the Ian Fleming Bond books have been filmed with uneven success. Any new Bond films will be action films based on the characters, most likely with a lot of 'gee whizz' CGI special effects.

With respect to Denis Villeneuve's direction of 'Bladerunner 2049', I thought it was a good sequel, hampered by a complicated story line covering the chain of events that cover the collapse of the Tyrell Corporation through to their recovery decades later. That, and the new development of Replicants, mean the film needs to be viewed several times (including the extras) for it to make sense.

Most of the films take big liberties with the books I don't see that as a problem. It wasn't like Fleming was much of a writer, he just churned it out

I'm hoping for few or no CGI cartoon crap in the new ones but that's probably wishful thinking.

The Bladerunner sequel totally lacked the style and the atmosphere of the first one. it wasn't the plot that was the problem for me. It was like the director never saw the original or if he did then he didn't grasp what made it a classic.

Pigmy Pony
01-08-2025, 17:12
Most of the films take big liberties with the books I don't see that as a problem. It wasn't like Fleming was much of a writer, he just churned it out

I'm hoping for few or no CGI cartoon crap in the new ones but that's probably wishful thinking.

The Bladerunner sequel totally lacked the style and the atmosphere of the first one. it wasn't the plot that was the problem for me. It was like the director never saw the original or if he did then he didn't grasp what made it a classic.

Wishful thinking indeed. And I doubt AI will keep its virtual beak out of things too.

Macca
01-08-2025, 17:56
Wishful thinking indeed. And I doubt AI will keep its virtual beak out of things too.

Getting A.I to write the new one might actually generate a decent story, it could hardly do worse than the last few human efforts.

Alex_UK
01-08-2025, 18:27
Getting A.I to write the new one might actually generate a decent story, it could hardly do worse than the last few human efforts.

I think you are probably right - having just worked with a colleague on a relatively low profile AI project it is actually terrifying how good it is, likely to be out of a job in the next 24 months max.

Macca
01-08-2025, 19:14
I think you are probably right - having just worked with a colleague on a relatively low profile AI project it is actually terrifying how good it is, likely to be out of a job in the next 24 months max.

Well it's easy enough to test - here's what I asked for:

Write a pitch for a James Bond movie that incorporates elements of the Sean Connery and Roger Moore Bond movies

And I got:

�� Movie Pitch: James Bond: Legacy of the Serpent

��️ Tone & Style

Sean Connery’s suave grit meets Roger Moore’s playful sophistication

Classic 1960s Cold War intrigue blended with 1970s globe-trotting spectacle

Witty repartee, exotic locations, flamboyant villains, and high-stakes espionage

�� Plot Overview MI6 uncovers a clandestine organization, The Serpent Syndicate, resurrected from the ashes of a Cold War-era Soviet experiment. Their aim? Use a stolen experimental satellite to manipulate global climates, destabilize economies, and reassert dominance over the weakened West.

Bond is sent to investigate—starting in Cairo, winding through Venice, Rio de Janeiro, and the Siberian tundra. With each location, he uncovers cryptic clues left by a forgotten 00-agent from the Connery era, presumed dead but now rumored to be aiding the Syndicate.

�� Cue:

underwater gadgets

tuxedo infiltrations of high society galas

an outrageous villain lair inside a glacier that splits open like a lotus flower

�� Key Characters

James Bond – Polished and cheeky, but steely when it counts. Think Connery’s calculated charisma with Moore’s quip-a-minute charm

Zoya Orlova – Brilliant Russian climatologist turned reluctant ally. Think Tatiana Romanova meets Anya Amasova

Felix Leiter – Back and full of bravado, more Moore-era buddy banter

Anton Virek – The icy mastermind behind the Syndicate; a cross between Blofeld and Max Zorin

Moneypenny & Q – Upgraded with nostalgia; Q’s gadgets include exploding cufflinks and a submarine Aston Martin

�� Style & Soundtrack

Opening credits: silhouettes of Bond skiing, diving, and parachuting over a glimmering snake motif

Theme Song: A haunting ballad with horns and electric guitar, reminiscent of Shirley Bassey’s timeless style

End credits tease: “James Bond will return in Crimson Empire”

Would you like the trailer voiceover next? Or a mock-up poster tagline?

Pigmy Pony
01-08-2025, 19:37
Well it's easy enough to test - here's what I asked for:

Write a pitch for a James Bond movie that incorporates elements of the Sean Connery and Roger Moore Bond movies

And I got:

�� Movie Pitch: James Bond: Legacy of the Serpent

��️ Tone & Style

Sean Connery’s suave grit meets Roger Moore’s playful sophistication

Classic 1960s Cold War intrigue blended with 1970s globe-trotting spectacle

Witty repartee, exotic locations, flamboyant villains, and high-stakes espionage

�� Plot Overview MI6 uncovers a clandestine organization, The Serpent Syndicate, resurrected from the ashes of a Cold War-era Soviet experiment. Their aim? Use a stolen experimental satellite to manipulate global climates, destabilize economies, and reassert dominance over the weakened West.

Bond is sent to investigate—starting in Cairo, winding through Venice, Rio de Janeiro, and the Siberian tundra. With each location, he uncovers cryptic clues left by a forgotten 00-agent from the Connery era, presumed dead but now rumored to be aiding the Syndicate.

�� Cue:

underwater gadgets

tuxedo infiltrations of high society galas

an outrageous villain lair inside a glacier that splits open like a lotus flower

�� Key Characters

James Bond – Polished and cheeky, but steely when it counts. Think Connery’s calculated charisma with Moore’s quip-a-minute charm

Zoya Orlova – Brilliant Russian climatologist turned reluctant ally. Think Tatiana Romanova meets Anya Amasova

Felix Leiter – Back and full of bravado, more Moore-era buddy banter

Anton Virek – The icy mastermind behind the Syndicate; a cross between Blofeld and Max Zorin

Moneypenny & Q – Upgraded with nostalgia; Q’s gadgets include exploding cufflinks and a submarine Aston Martin

�� Style & Soundtrack

Opening credits: silhouettes of Bond skiing, diving, and parachuting over a glimmering snake motif

Theme Song: A haunting ballad with horns and electric guitar, reminiscent of Shirley Bassey’s timeless style

End credits tease: “James Bond will return in Crimson Empire”

Would you like the trailer voiceover next? Or a mock-up poster tagline?

Silhouettes supposed to have nice tits - failed before the film's even started :(

Macca
01-08-2025, 20:09
Silhouettes supposed to have nice tits - failed before the film's even started :(

Well, you could add that in. The AI probably isn't allowed to say tits.

I mean, on the whole it's not a bad effort. It's better than the last three, at least.

Gazjam
01-08-2025, 21:14
Heavily invested in Bond since a Kid at my Dad's feet watching Goldfinger Martin,
Could talk the minutue of 007 all day!

Didn't know know you were a Fan!

Barry
01-08-2025, 21:30
The only Bond film I have in my collection is "Thunderball", though I have seen them all.

Pigmy Pony
01-08-2025, 22:10
Well, you could add that in. The AI probably isn't allowed to say tits.

I mean, on the whole it's not a bad effort. It's better than the last three, at least.

I don't know, all that pain and expense actresses go through getting boob-jobs, only to be out-titted by AI, which isn't even allowed to say tits. World's gone mad.

Macca
02-08-2025, 06:02
Heavily invested in Bond since a Kid at my Dad's feet watching Goldfinger Martin,
Could talk the minutue of 007 all day!

Didn't know know you were a Fan!

Are you kidding?

Dr No first one I saw, I think it was the first time it was on the telly. In black and white as we were on holiday in some grotty flat in Wales at the time. Hooked instantly.

Read all the books while at school - the English teacher called them 'pulp novelettes'. Which I suppose they are, really.