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Do you like Christmas? Do you hate Christmas? Do you dread Christmas?
We are writing cards today and I have already decided not to bother sending as many this year.
Personally I am ambivalent / dislike most of Christmas apart from filling my face on Christmas Day.
I am sympathetic to those who have children as it should be an awesome time for them but very stressful and expensive for the parents.
The huge consumerist event seems to roll in earlier and earlier each year and you sometimes feel steam rollered by the whole thing.
Can't wait for it all to be over!
AJSki2fly
28-11-2023, 16:30
Do you like Christmas? Do you hate Christmas? Do you dread Christmas?
We are writing cards today and I have already decided not to bother sending as many this year.
Personally I am ambivalent / dislike most of Christmas apart from filling my face on Christmas Day.
I am sympathetic to those who have children as it should be an awesome time for them but very stressful and expensive for the parents.
The huge consumerist event seems to roll in earlier and earlier each year and you sometimes feel steam rollered by the whole thing.
Can't wait for it all to be over!
Bah, hum-bug:spank:, unless you are give me a present.:santa::cocktail:
Bah, hum-bug:spank:, unless you are give me a present.:santa::cocktail:
:lol:
didnt send any last year as wasnt well enough. not sure this year. see how i feel. might go to daughters for dinner this year. wont eat much tho but nice to see them all having fun. i spend more time in bed than up doh
Christmas is for children (and by extension, their parents). As a child I loved Christmas; it was 'magic', but in those days preparations only started a week or ten days beforehand.
My father would dig up the Christmas tree from the garden, plant it the barrel we had for that purpose and bring it into the house - where I was allowed to decorate it. On Christmas Eve I hung up the stocking and had to go to bed early, so on Christmas Day I would awake to find a heavy, full stocking awaiting me.
These days Christmas is spoit by rampant commercialisation - and I now have a thoroughly cynical attitude to it all.
That said we shall be spending Christmas this year away, staying with friends in Lyon, France.
don't really care about the commercialism, I mean when we were young the pressies were the main thing not the baby Jesus so seems a bit hypocritical to frown on it now.
Used to be the only time you would see my father drink alcohol in daylight hours.
My main issue with it is that it now seems to extend from 26th November to 31st December. Just no need. I would bring back the death sentence for anyone putting up their decos before 15th Dec.
None of my family were church goers, so it was more a festival of the Winter, rather than anything to do with "the baby Jesus".
Pressies were modest and simple.
Lawrence001
28-11-2023, 18:05
We weren't church goers but my parents were Christians and Christmas was partly about Jesus and all that. Is "not church goers" a euphemism for actively atheist?
parents were church goers originally and i got dragged along to sunday school until i was old enough to say no... seemed to catch on as they stopped going too; well dad did, then mum fell out with the'meanister'... lol she still paid her dues to the church but never went near til she got an appology and a new man in...
Ali Tait
28-11-2023, 18:15
I’m just glad of the two weeks off work and time to spend with loved ones.
Pigmy Pony
28-11-2023, 18:16
Most of our Christmas is spent visiting, here there and everywhere when I'd really prefer to be at home. Too much time with people I've spent all year avoiding. Shouldn't grumble really, at least we have food and a warm place to eat it.
Most of our Christmas is spent visiting, here there and everywhere when I'd really prefer to be at home. Too much time with people I've spent all year avoiding. Shouldn't grumble really, at least we have food and a warm place to eat it.
lol... ive no one to visit or vis a vie... tbh xmas is pretty much same as any other time for me now. even grandkids are both big lads now so no magic there either. only issue is deliveries are difficult to get. tv stays same too as i dont have any.lol
We weren't church goers but my parents were Christians and Christmas was partly about Jesus and all that. Is "not church goers" a euphemism for actively atheist?
Not necessarily - one might be agnostic, or simply have no religious feelings at all.
...or cant be arsed:eyebrows: which i think might have been dad... either that or he lost his religion during ww2.
Do you like Christmas? Do you hate Christmas? Do you dread Christmas?
We are writing cards today and I have already decided not to bother sending as many this year.
Personally I am ambivalent / dislike most of Christmas apart from filling my face on Christmas Day.
I am sympathetic to those who have children as it should be an awesome time for them but very stressful and expensive for the parents.
The huge consumerist event seems to roll in earlier and earlier each year and you sometimes feel steam rollered by the whole thing.
Can't wait for it all to be over!
I never do cards. Nobody moans. They are used to it.
Presents are only for the kids now, and the hardest part is trying to stop my daughter being spoilt, and getting too many presents. We aim for just one family present from both sides of the family, but it does not always work out that way.
Mrs Puffin HAS to send cards every year to people we never hear from or never see from one year to the next. What irritates me intensely is the empty hyperbole and platitudes and other dross written in these cards. One example "Ooh it would be lovely to meet up again"...again?.....we haven't seen you since 1972!
I also dislike those 'round robin' messages that tell you how wonderful the sender's year has been: where they went on holiday; how well the children are doing at school, etc.
Even worse are the above, but sent electronically. Understandable, I suppose, given the cost of stamps.
Pigmy Pony
29-11-2023, 08:40
I also dislike those 'round robin' messages that tell you how wonderful the sender's year has been: where they went on holiday; how well the children are doing at school, etc.
Even worse are the above, but sent electronically. Understandable, I suppose, given the cost of stamps.
Sounds like you need new friends Barry.
I'll be happy to send you a card telling you how thick my kids are despite the teachers' best efforts, and all the holidays we couldn't afford. And if there's enough room left on the card, I'll describe in detail our various ailments. I might even stretch to a first class stamp :)
Mrs Puffin HAS to send cards every year to people we never hear from or never see from one year to the next. What irritates me intensely is the empty hyperbole and platitudes and other dross written in these cards. One example "Ooh it would be lovely to meet up again"...again?.....we haven't seen you since 1972!
:lol:
Sounds like you need new friends Barry.
I'll be happy to send you a card telling you how thick my kids are despite the teachers' best efforts, and all the holidays we couldn't afford. And if there's enough room left on the card, I'll describe in detail our various ailments. I might even stretch to a first class stamp :)
That's what my partner tells me! :lol:
hifinutt
29-11-2023, 09:37
its a great time for families to meetup , enjoy carol services etc and may even sing at one !!!! wonderful to celebrate the birth of Jesus
hate the commercialism etc .
Pigmy Pony
29-11-2023, 09:47
The older I get, the less friends I have, and it's not because they're dying. Most of them are still about, i just don't make time for them, and it's probably the same for them. Terrible I know, it's just that 99% of the time Mrs. P is all the company I need.
I really should make more of an effort, we won't be around for ever. It would help if they had more interest in the things I like. And lived a bit nearer.
The older I get, the less friends I have, and it's not because they're dying. Most of them are still about, i just don't make time for them, and it's probably the same for them. Terrible I know, it's just that 99% of the time Mrs. P is all the company I need.
I really should make more of an effort, we won't be around for ever. It would help if they had more interest in the things I like. And lived a bit nearer.
mine are either pan, or gone to ground. not much family left either.
rmcin626
29-11-2023, 10:03
mine are either pan, or gone to ground. not much family left either.
Pan, you might need to explain that to some, haha
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Pan, you might need to explain that to some, haha
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LOL... YES I GUESS. pan breid(bread) = dead
Lawrence001
29-11-2023, 10:24
Not necessarily - one might be agnostic, or simply have no religious feelings at all.I just meant your phrase "festival of the winter" which sounded a bit Pagan if anything but maybe I read too much into it [emoji23]
Lawrence001
29-11-2023, 10:27
The older I get, the less friends I have, and it's not because they're dying. Most of them are still about, i just don't make time for them, and it's probably the same for them. Terrible I know, it's just that 99% of the time Mrs. P is all the company I need.
I really should make more of an effort, we won't be around for ever. It would help if they had more interest in the things I like. And lived a bit nearer.I've fallen out with a few of my friends for one reason or another and frankly I can't be bothered to make the effort to sort it out. I'm pretty easy going and it always seems to be all about them but then I would think that wouldn't I?
Lawrence001
29-11-2023, 10:28
LOL... YES I GUESS. pan breid(bread) = deadI didn't know there was a Scottish version of Cockney rhyming slang.
Chic Murray - Curry
Though many have started using another famous Scottish Murray for this one (Andy), it will always be the original and best for us.
Example: "Fancy a wee Chic Murray for dinner tonight? I canny be bothered cooking."
Corned Beef - Deif/Deaf
This one sees corned beef rhymed with deif (the way Scots would pronounce deaf), and is usually aimed at someone who isn't listening.
Example: "Listen pal, are you corned beef? I told you to beat it."
Hauf Inch - Pinch
A good one for someone who is known to be on the light-fingered side.
Example: "Aye it's a cracker eh? Wee Davey hauf inched it for us."
Mick Jagger - Lager
If someone asks if you fancy a Mick Jagger, it's usually an invite for a pint and not referring to the great man himself.
Example: "I'm guessing most us will be choking for a Mick Jagger when the restrictions are over and the pubs re-open."
Hampden Roar - Score
Though you might think this would be used for football, it's more likely to be used when asking for more details about something.
Example: "What's the Hampden for later? Where are we going?"
Single fish/Lillian Gish - Going for a pish
There's a few different versions of this one, but these two are the most popular, alternatively you can also be going for a Barry White.
Example: "I'm away for a Lillian Gish."
Gregory Pecks - Specks/glasses
One of the most widely used expressions, Gregory Pecks refers to your glasses.
Example: "Where's your Gregory's? You'll not be able to see what's happening later withou them."
Sky Rocket - Pocket
Another of those expressions that Scottish das are fond of.
Example: "Stick that in your sky rocket and save it for later."
Pan Breid - Deid/Dead
Hugely popular in Scotland, the old pan loaf also doubles up as another way of saying dead.
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bread i usually eat when im able is also a scottish only fav. rarely seen outwith scotland.. a plain loaf.
https://www.scollinsandson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2785.jpg
Pigmy Pony
29-11-2023, 10:52
I didn't know there was a Scottish version of Cockney rhyming slang.
Jockney rhyming slang? :o
Lawrence001
29-11-2023, 11:07
Jockney rhyming slang? :o
You should be on the telly.
Is there a rhyme for telly?
Lawrence001
29-11-2023, 11:09
bread i usually eat when im able is also a scottish only fav. rarely seen outwith scotland.. a plain loaf.
https://www.scollinsandson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2785.jpgDoes England have any Scottish shops where you can buy this sort of thing. There are enough Polish shops here in London, and Boston way towards my mum's gaff.
You should be on the telly.
Is there a rhyme for telly?
custard....
..as in custard and jelly
Pigmy Pony
29-11-2023, 12:55
custard....
..as in custard and jelly
Now you're just making stuff up :ner:
I just meant your phrase "festival of the winter" which sounded a bit Pagan if anything but maybe I read too much into it [emoji23]
What would be wrong with that? Christmas is an amalgam of several festivals that used to be celebrated around that time of the year. I believe one of the celebrations was a 'winter festival': intended to propitiate the gods and ask them to lengthen the days, bring back the warm weather and life.
rmcin626
29-11-2023, 14:48
bread i usually eat when im able is also a scottish only fav. rarely seen outwith scotland.. a plain loaf.
https://www.scollinsandson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2785.jpg
Managed to take 12 pan loafs and 12 dozen tattie scones to my sister in-law in the States on a few occasions .
Managed to take 12 pan loafs and 12 dozen tattie scones to my sister in-law in the States on a few occasions .
heard american bread isnt up to much. i do like a tattie scone, especially in a roll and lorne with broon:eyebrows:
hifinutt
29-11-2023, 16:08
The older I get, the less friends I have, and it's not because they're dying. Most of them are still about, i just don't make time for them, and it's probably the same for them. Terrible I know, it's just that 99% of the time Mrs. P is all the company I need.
I really should make more of an effort, we won't be around for ever. It would help if they had more interest in the things I like. And lived a bit nearer.
You said it PP , sadly our dear partners have habit of popping off so defo worth making the effort . my dear friend who passed away in April was 92 and packed out the church and he had more visitors in the nursing home than the whole floor as he did so many things and was involved in so much stuff
Pigmy Pony
29-11-2023, 16:43
You said it PP , sadly our dear partners have habit of popping off so defo worth making the effort . my dear friend who passed away in April was 92 and packed out the church and he had more visitors in the nursing home than the whole floor as he did so many things and was involved in so much stuff
New Year resolution: make contact with those who have dropped off my radar in recent years. I could do it sooner, but I'd rather get all the cards and presents nonsense behind us first :D Also I turn 66 in January, and the State pension will pay for me to have more free time :)
Also I turn 66 in January, and the State pension will pay for me to have more free time :)
Just like being on the dole but without having to sign on.
11 more years for me. Not that I'm wishing it away.
Mate of mine turned sixty last month, lives in London, now gets free travel on tube and buses.
Pigmy Pony
29-11-2023, 18:44
Just like being on the dole but without having to sign on.
11 more years for me. Not that I'm wishing it away.
Mate of mine turned sixty last month, lives in London, now gets free travel on tube and buses.
That sounds like a good deal, I don't know if we have anything like that here. Anyway, we're so far away from a bus route we need a car to get to the bus stop :( We used to have a bus service went past our house, then they did away with it about 15 years ago.
But on the plus side, gritters give priority to major roads and bus routes, and they must not have got the memo about us no longer qualifying, so 15 years on we still get gritted. In fact seeing the flashing amber lights through our lounge window gives us fair warning about overnight temps :)
Just like being on the dole but without having to sign on.
11 more years for me. Not that I'm wishing it away.
Mate of mine turned sixty last month, lives in London, now gets free travel on tube and buses.
got offered one of those but as i cant walk from house to stop, and even if i did, the bus would be unlikely to arrive and even if it did i wouldnt be able to get on. if i did get on, i would fall if i was on my feet when bus was moving meaning if i did get a seat i wouldnt be able to get off until it ran out of deisel:doh:
I have a bus pass, and like you I'm not so nimble on my feet. So I press the bell in good time, and the driver expects those passengers who want to alight, to remain seated and not to move until the bus has completely stopped.
I can also use my pass on buses anywhere in England. My partner has a Freedom pass, which she can use to travel free on buses in England, all public transport in London, as well as getting discount on British Rail.
I have a bus pass, and like you I'm not so nimble on my feet. So I press the bell in good time, and the driver expects those passengers who want to alight, to remain seated and not to move until the bus has completely stopped.
I can also use my pass on buses anywhere in England. My partner has a Freedom pass, which she can use to travel free on buses in England, all public transport in London, as well as getting discount on British Rail.
youve not met the mad jock bus driver then :eek:... main issue for me is if my hip moves sideways even a few mil the wrong way i just collapse. so buses are no go sadly. i cant even get into majority of cars and if im not in driver seat make that 99.99% of them even more sadly. i need a new hip but they wont give me one as surgeons are scared of me, even entering the hospital. last one flung me out as a serious risk to his record:doh:
Mikeandvan
29-11-2023, 21:30
This should be in abstract chat, reported. BTW if you're a xmas hater, simply ignore it, simple. Personally I;m not fussed, its kinda stressfull, everybody doing the same thing at the same time, not my idea of fun. It's like those dickheads that go on motorbike rallies, they're like 'lets all ride our motorbikes to the same place at the same time, so we create an awful lot of fucking noise, and on top of that, there's absolutley no point to what we're doing, apart from fulfulling some primal male bonding bullshit, 'kin noisy C**ts!
Well actually this discussion should have its own thread and be placed in Abstract Chat.
But one of the quirky and endearing aspects of AoS is 'thread drift'; and that is exactly what is happening here.
Lawrence001
29-11-2023, 22:09
This should be in abstract chat, reported. BTW if you're a xmas hater, simply ignore it, simple. Personally I;m not fussed, its kinda stressfull, everybody doing the same thing at the same time, not my idea of fun. It's like those dickheads that go on motorbike rallies, they're like 'lets all ride our motorbikes to the same place at the same time, so we create an awful lot of fucking noise, and on top of that, there's absolutley no point to what we're doing, apart from fulfulling some primal male bonding bullshit, 'kin noisy C**ts!That's a bit harsh my kids love Christmas, to be fair that's mainly because they get a holiday from school and lots of presents, but they like the time that we all have off together and do different things too.
Lawrence001
29-11-2023, 22:15
What would be wrong with that? Christmas is an amalgam of several festivals that used to be celebrated around that time of the year. I believe one of the celebrations was a 'winter festival': intended to propitiate the gods and ask them to lengthen the days, bring back the warm weather and life.Nothing at all, I don't believe in God myself. I was trying to understand the step from not being active church goers, which would include my parents as they believed in God as the majority of their generation did, but didn't bother going to church, to Christmas being a festival of winter, which sounds distinctly atheist or even pagan.
I'm starting to feel like Marco now, he used to say things like this and then find himself having to explain what he meant [emoji23]
rmcin626
29-11-2023, 22:42
Well actually this discussion should have its own thread and be placed in Abstract Chat.
But one of the quirky and endearing aspects of AoS is 'thread drift'; and that is exactly what is happening here.
I agree , we love a wee thread drift here on AOS, for us Xmas is all about our 3 year old grandson, and of course good food, decent wine , and good drams.
Pigmy Pony
30-11-2023, 07:32
Nothing at all, I don't believe in God myself. I was trying to understand the step from not being active church goers, which would include my parents as they believed in God as the majority of their generation did, but didn't bother going to church, to Christmas being a festival of winter, which sounds distinctly atheist or even pagan.
I'm starting to feel like Marco now, he used to say things like this and then find himself having to explain what he meant [emoji23]
Or like that poor monkey when he rocked up on Hartlepool's shores all those years ago ;) As usual I 'get' what you're saying mate, though I imagine hearing that from the AoS village idiot is small comfort!
Just to get the thread back on track have some of these :santa::christmas::christmas::santa::gig::santa::d rinking::cool::christmas:
Or like that poor monkey when he rocked up on Hartlepool's shores all those years ago ;) As usual I 'get' what you're saying mate, though I imagine hearing that from the AoS village idiot is small comfort!
Just to get the thread back on track have some of these :santa::christmas::christmas::santa::gig::santa::d rinking::cool::christmas:
at least that is only a legend; this is fact...
The people of Ermin, Tennessee, have most definitely surpassed the legend of the Monkey Trial. Furthermore, theirs is no legend, we have the photos to prove it!
In September, 1916, Mary the Elephant was hung by her neck from a crane until she was dead. The same punishment that a human would have received for being found guilty of Murder.
https://schoolshistory.org.uk/topics/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/marytheelephant.jpg
https://schoolshistory.org.uk/topics/mary-elephant-hartlepool-monkey/ (not well spelt sadly)
walpurgis
30-11-2023, 08:37
Or like that poor monkey when he rocked up on Hartlepool's shores all those years ago ;)
Lucky for the boat migrants that Hartlepool doesn't face the French coast.
Pigmy Pony
30-11-2023, 09:24
at least that is only a legend; this is fact...
The people of Ermin, Tennessee, have most definitely surpassed the legend of the Monkey Trial. Furthermore, theirs is no legend, we have the photos to prove it!
In September, 1916, Mary the Elephant was hung by her neck from a crane until she was dead. The same punishment that a human would have received for being found guilty of Murder.
https://schoolshistory.org.uk/topics/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/marytheelephant.jpg
https://schoolshistory.org.uk/topics/mary-elephant-hartlepool-monkey/ (not well spelt sadly)
I did wonder why Nelly the elephant packed her trunk, it was never explained. You really wouldn't want to work among such morons.
hifinutt
30-11-2023, 10:37
:)
Anything not to have to see that photo again!
Pete The Cat
02-12-2023, 12:41
Unfortunately you can't unsee it now.
It's almost enough to make you give up on mankind.
Anyway, back to Christmas...:scratch:
walpurgis
02-12-2023, 12:47
It's almost enough to make you give up on mankind.
I gave up years ago. Greed and stupidity are drawing us towards the terminal spiral.
Lawrence001
02-12-2023, 14:27
Unfortunately you can't unsee it now.
It's almost enough to make you give up on mankind.
Anyway, back to Christmas...:scratch:I was going to say give up on Americans anyway. But then I thought of the scenes I saw in that Wuhan "wet" market, dogs in cages in Vietnam, dancing bears in Romania and thought you're probably right.
Lawrence001
02-12-2023, 14:28
I gave up years ago. Greed and stupidity are drawing us towards the terminal spiral.My only hope is we leave the planet habitable to more than cockroaches and another species can do a better job than we have.
My only hope is we leave the planet habitable to more than cockroaches and another species can do a better job than we have.
Cats will take over on land, dolphins will run the sea.
My only hope is we leave the planet habitable to more than cockroaches and another species can do a better job than we have.
i'd imagine there would be much competition initially but ants or something like that may well win in end
i'd imagine there would be much competition initially but ants or something like that may well win in end
Once there's no-one left to pour kettles of boiling water on them they'll probably make great strides forward.
Once there's no-one left to pour kettles of boiling water on them they'll probably make great strides forward.
i agree that cats would do well initially too. feral cats can and do form groups; female usually, so would do well with lots of food at their size point. bears and wolves initially too; dogs too i guess but insects and things like worms would too. we are very replaceable on land. oceans may not change much except that the populations would grow
Patrick Nash
03-12-2023, 11:18
Happy Saturnalia to you all.
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Lawrence001
03-12-2023, 13:55
i'd imagine there would be much competition initially but ants or something like that may well win in endThere's only one thing I can remember from biology at school and that's when we studied how insects breathe and why they are limited in size as a result.
I think they'd find it very difficult to build nuclear bombs, internal combustion engines or coal fired power stations and all the other things that make a species civilised.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2006-10-giant-insects-oxygen-air.amp
There's only one thing I can remember from biology at school and that's when we studied how insects breathe and why they are limited in size as a result.
I think they'd find it very difficult to build nuclear bombs, internal combustion engines or coal fired power stations and all the other things that make a species civilised.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2006-10-giant-insects-oxygen-air.amp
some may say they are far more civilised than humans..:eyebrows:
Pigmy Pony
03-12-2023, 15:17
Thing is, all living things (animals and plant life) adapt to suit their environment, while we humans change the environment to suit us. And that's the problem. If we were gone the planet and its remaining inhabitants would do very nicely, and have no need for power stations, motor cars etc. They may even cope with lack of WiFi.
Pieoftheday
03-12-2023, 16:10
Sounds like you need new friends Barry.
I'll be happy to send you a card telling you how thick my kids are despite the teachers' best efforts, and all the holidays we couldn't afford. And if there's enough room left on the card, I'll describe in detail our various ailments. I might even stretch to a first class stamp :)
I genuinely wouldnt buy 1st class stamps, they no longer buy you a faster, 1st class service
I genuinely wouldnt buy 1st class stamps, they no longer buy you a faster, 1st class service
price of stamps is rediculous.
Pigmy Pony
03-12-2023, 16:45
I genuinely wouldnt buy 1st class stamps, they no longer buy you a faster, 1st class service
First Class should be renamed 'this year delivery'. Though as Christmas approaches this cannot be guaranteed. At least it shows the recipient that you tried.
Lawrence001
03-12-2023, 17:25
The RM issues are quite handy when you miss a birthday as you can just post a card after and blame them.
The RM issues are quite handy when you miss a birthday as you can just post a card after and blame them.
Do RM frank the stamps with the date of postage?
Pieoftheday
03-12-2023, 17:57
Do RM frank the stamps with the date of postage?
Not often these days,In fact they will delay your mail for a few days until you have a package
Lawrence001
03-12-2023, 19:38
Do RM frank the stamps with the date of postage?If they do you can say it must have been delayed in the sorting office.
The first Christmas card of the year fell through the letter box today - unfortunately it was incorrectly addressed and was not for me.
I looked up the post code and redelivered the card.
The first Christmas card of the year fell through the letter box today - unfortunately it was incorrectly addressed and was not for me.
I looked up the post code and redelivered the card.
Sad but at least you did a good deed - that's the Christmas spirit!:lol:
At a friend's for Xmas and one of the guests gas bought presents for everyone. All small and cheap fun rubbish but it's been fantastic fun with every opening. Best time for many a year
hifinutt
25-12-2023, 17:19
very generous of you
we had loads of cards and the dear chap that i looked after and died in April had quite a few still . Sadly many had no address on so i couldnt advise of RIP
eldarvanyar
25-12-2023, 20:58
Well happy Christmas to you all (however you feel about it).
For me the true meaning of Christmas, has nothing to do with secular consumerism. There is more to life than material things. Once you get back to basics and the baby in manger it’s good news to all people, for today a saviour is born, and he is Christ the Lord.
Thanks for being such a great forum and community with this mad hobby.
Have a good new year in 2024.
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hifinutt
26-12-2023, 14:44
Well happy Christmas to you all (however you feel about it).
For me the true meaning of Christmas, has nothing to do with secular consumerism. There is more to life than material things. Once you get back to basics and the baby in manger it’s good news to all people, for today a saviour is born, and he is Christ the Lord.
Thanks for being such a great forum and community with this mad hobby.
Have a good new year in 2024.
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fantastic Lee
100% agree Chrismas is nothing without Christ !!!
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