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Macca
28-08-2023, 11:07
Reviewed in HiFi Newz:

https://www.hifinews.com/content/epos-es14n-loudspeaker

https://i.ibb.co/HddxjBn/epos-es14n-lautsprecher-stereo-72653.jpg (https://ibb.co/3zzMn4B)

My first reaction was 'They're a bit pricey!' - £3750

Of course it is 40 years since they came out so that needs to be taken into account. However consulting my trusty buying guide from the February 1990 edition of WTF? I see that the RRP back then was £385

The BOE inflation calculator reckons that is £965 in 2023 bunce. So yes, even accounting for inflation, these new versions are in a different price bracket to the old ones.

I come clean and say I never liked the old ones. They were toppy and a bit rough round the edges. They were better than the Linn Kans that many people upgraded to them from so maybe that accounts for their popularity? Along with some 'Cult Of The Designer' stuff the mags whipped up around Robin Marshall since he was keen to give interviews to anyone and everyone.

On the plus side the new ones do measure a lot better than the old ones. HFN measurements are a bit crude but can be compared to these Stereophile measurements of the old ones, (for those who take an interest in such things) https://www.stereophile.com/content/epos-es-14-loudspeaker-measurements

One big difference is the new version is not as sensitive as the old version, about a 3dB difference which is twice the amplifier power for the same volume.

Designer seems to have made the choice of reducing efficiency to get flatter response. Maybe not a good idea back in 1983 when watts were expensive and we all thought a 50 watt amp was a powerhouse, but nowadays watts are much cheaper.

They look pretty good. Don't think I would personally spend that kind of money for a small-ish two way but there it is.

hifi_dave
28-08-2023, 13:22
They have gone down well with my customers who have heard them.

They are a long way from the original ES14, though that was very good for it's time.

guy
28-08-2023, 13:26
Reviewed in HiFi Newz:……………..

I come clean and say I never liked the old ones. They were toppy and a bit rough round the edges. ………………………

Exactly how i felt when i went for a listen (about 1990) shop called “promusica” in Colchester - good dealer so i am fairly sure that it wasn’t down to associated equipment (LP12/Naim from memory). I ended up buying mk1 Rega Ela which i still have and love.

Never understood the cult following, but it takes all sorts i suppose.

Barry
28-08-2023, 15:57
Never understood the cult following, but it takes all sorts i suppose.

The first cult following was that for Linn followed by that for Naim, to the point where dealers would not sell one if you did not own the other. :doh:

Fortunately we seem to have got over this stupidity.

guy
28-08-2023, 17:59
:cool:

Barry
28-08-2023, 19:02
Another equipment cult is (was?) that for NVA amplifiers, speakers and cables. ;)

walpurgis
29-08-2023, 06:52
I didn't like the original ES14 particularly and I don't see nostalgia being worth the best part of four grand, to me at least.

(I'm just trying to think of an Epos speaker I actually wanted, I don't think there is one)

Macca
29-08-2023, 17:13
I didn't like the original ES14 particularly and I don't see nostalgia being worth the best part of four grand, to me at least.

(I'm just trying to think of an Epos speaker I actually wanted, I don't think there is one)

The new one is clearly a lot better speaker than the old one but it should be for over three times the price.

hifi_dave
29-08-2023, 19:44
I didn't like the original ES14 particularly and I don't see nostalgia being worth the best part of four grand, to me at least.

(I'm just trying to think of an Epos speaker I actually wanted, I don't think there is one)

There is no nostalgia with the new ES14N. Except the name and the internal volume, the two speakers are entirely different with the latest being vastly superior.

guy
30-08-2023, 08:31
Another equipment cult is (was?) that for NVA amplifiers, speakers and cables. ;)

Nothing wrong/cultish, in my opinion, with appreciating value for money and excellent returns policy :)

Barry
30-08-2023, 10:32
Did I say there was anything wrong? As for being a cult, one only needs to look at the HFS website set up by the late Richard Dunn to understand the near rabid appreciation expressed by NVA owners.

Macca
30-08-2023, 17:27
Did I say there was anything wrong? As for being a cult, one only needs to look at the HFS website set up by the late Richard Dunn to understand the near rabid appreciation expressed by NVA owners.

in fairness you do see that on all manufacturer forums. Some people do like to emotionally invest in the equipment they have bought.

guy
30-08-2023, 18:35
The one that springs to mind is the old Linn LP12 forum - whoops, I’ve got one of those as well :doh: