View Full Version : Audio GD DI-20HE
Anybody got one? What do you think of it?
Have you compared it to anything else?
I have one. Have had very little time with it.
It is brilliant.
Hearing more from the music.
Thanks for the feedback.
Just realised this thread should have been titled audio-gd di-20he.
Thanks for the feedback.
Just realised this thread should have been titled audio-gd di-20he.
fixed it.
Thanks.
I am torn between a new DDC or a DAC.
I currently have an RME ADI-2 DAC 2 FS, and I am half tempted by a Gustard R26.
The other option is the Audio-GD DI-20HE.
I think that the DAC is likely to make the biggest difference.
An R26 with am inexpensive Leo Bodnar clock is worth considering. The clock gives the already excellent R26 a good lift in SQ.
Is this the Leo Bodnar GPS clock?
Is this the Leo Bodnar GPS clock?
Yes, this is the one: http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=234
LMR400 50 ohm super stiff cable too��
LMR400 50 ohm super stiff cable too��
Is that cable to connect between the clock and the R26, or to connect beween the R26 DAC and a DVT?
Have read a few reports from users of the Gustard R26.
All favourable.
And some have sold on their DDC in favour of the Leo Bodnar clock, as Colin suggests.
Is that cable to connect between the clck and the R26, or to connect beween the R26 DAC and a DVT?
Clock to R26
I have been thinking about the next upgrade.
I think I am going to get a UMIK-1 microphone to check my room .
Depending on the results, I may go for a MiniDSP SHD to replace pre and DAC.
I have been thinking about the next upgrade.
I think I am going to get a UMIK-1 microphone to check my room .
Depending on the results, I may go for a MiniDSP SHD to replace pre and DAC.
MiniDSP SHD is very good by all accounts and will keep you fiddling for ever as it can do so much. AK DAC chips so it may also sound great as a DAC?
Would be very interested to hear how you get on with this device with the Digital EQ. I presume you will also be purchasing one of their mics if you go for it?
The idea is to buy a mic first, to see if there is a problem in my room.
If there is a problem, selling the pre and DAC and replacing them with the SHD means that my analogue side can be fixed as well.
I have a wealth of different setting in my DAC, and it is set on some settings where it sounds good, and I have not touched it since.
You've got parametric EQ on your DAC, might not need DSP too depending on what shows up when you measure the room.
You never show any pics but as you're in France I always imagine a large, rustic space with shutters on the windows.
I'm probably way off.
I was looking at measuring my room. Initially I just thought it was a case of getting the mic set up and playing a few test tones but when I started reading about how to do it properly (and it's pointless if you don't) it started to seem like an awful lot of work.
I’ve an essentially square room with the height being half the length/width. It couldn’t be worse. I use a lot of DSP on the bass. What dimensions does your idyllic room in France possess?
Pigmy Pony
25-04-2023, 19:01
You've got parametric EQ on your DAC, might not need DSP too depending on what shows up when you measure the room.
You never show any pics but as you're in France I always imagine a large, rustic space with shutters on the windows.
I'm probably way off.
I was looking at measuring my room. Initially I just thought it was a case of getting the mic set up and playing a few test tones but when I started reading about how to do it properly (and it's pointless if you don't) it started to seem like an awful lot of work.
That's just laziness. You need to get your head round this stuff and sort your room. Then come over and sort my room too, because I find this kind of thing too complicated.
You've got parametric EQ on your DAC, might not need DSP too depending on what shows up when you measure the room.
You never show any pics but as you're in France I always imagine a large, rustic space with shutters on the windows.
I'm probably way off.
I was looking at measuring my room. Initially I just thought it was a case of getting the mic set up and playing a few test tones but when I started reading about how to do it properly (and it's pointless if you don't) it started to seem like an awful lot of work.
EQ on my DAC does not work on my analogue part of my system.
My man cave is not idyllic, and you are way off. ;)
Having looked at room acoustics and relation to speaker interaction these are my thoughts Kevin for what they are worth.
There is a move to assessing a listening environment in order to try and get a flat frequency response which is driven by the use predominantly of Room EQ Wizard which is available to download for free. Hifi pundits and some manufacturers like to use it as a tool to look at the frequency response of a given system in a room and adjust equipment or the room accordingly either through room treatment or DSP.
I have heard the effects of both and room treatment would be my much preferred way to go as any system I have heard which has DSP applied to it sounds terrible. Basically it retunes your speakers and limits or boosts their performance to compensate for the room but from what I have heard it makes you wonder why you would bother buying a pair of speakers based on the sound or performance when DSP can trample all over them. Room treatment just controls the room characteristics and not the system which in my book sounds way better as I have heard the results.
RW will tell you what the frequency response is in your room and has been suggested as a tool for speakers placement or addition of room acoustic treatment but it depends where you put the microphone in the room and then what did you do if it even requires you to move either your chair or speakers or both into a position which is domestically entirely unsuitable. I believe when using Mini DSP device however part of the calibration process does mean it takes measurements of you room from lots of positions using their microphone.
Personally and I have spoken to others about this, I would adjust your system according to what sounds best to you and not bother measuring it. But if you do go down this route and you want to flatten the response I would suggest room treatment and speaker placement rather than DSP. And if you really want to EQ the system to sound better (flatter response) in the room I would maybe consider analogue EQ rather than DSP.
I have no domestic constraints to consider, other than fitting everything in to the space.
I could give myself more space by relocating my SIM racing rig, but that means dismantling it.
At normal levels, my system sounds ok to me, but not many people have heard it.
Ideally I need to spin my room round 90°, but I am not sure I will gain much.
I have no domestic constraints to consider, other than fitting everything in to the space.
I could give myself more space by relocating my SIM racing rig, but that means dismantling it.
At normal levels, my system sounds ok to me, but not many people have heard it.
Ideally I need to spin my room round 90°, but I am not sure I will gain much.
If your system sounds OK I wouldn't worry what others may think. It is all about YOU.:)
I know there are weaknesses in my system but I am generally OK with them. To fix a lot of them I would have to either radically change a lot of the system (New speakers) or keep adding room treatment which I am slowly.
Maybe think of the area that bugs you the most and concentrate on improving this. I have found even small changes ie seating position or speaker position can give you huge gains.
I have heard what DSP did to a friends system recently and it sucked the life out of it however this was built into his speaker system.
DSP won't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear that is true.
I agree that starting with a good speaker and a good room acoustic (passive treatment) is the way to go.
To avoid confusion for anyone reading this who is not aware, a flat response in room is not desirable, it will sound way too bright. You want a smooth response tilted down towards the high frequencies. That will sound natural and balanced. A flat response is what the speaker should produce in an anechoic chamber, not in a room.
Kev
R26 is a quality dac for the outlay, clock later
Kev
R26 is a quality dac for the outlay, clock later
Thanks Tony. A noticeable step up from the AK version of the RME?
If your system sounds OK I wouldn't worry what others may think. It is all about YOU.:)
I know there are weaknesses in my system but I am generally OK with them. To fix a lot of them I would have to either radically change a lot of the system (New speakers) or keep adding room treatment which I am slowly.
Maybe think of the area that bugs you the most and concentrate on improving this. I have found even small changes ie seating position or speaker position can give you huge gains.
I have heard what DSP did to a friends system recently and it sucked the life out of it however this was built into his speaker system.
My seating position is against the rear wall. I was looking at GIK photo panels to help with the reflections.
I have a pitched ceiling/roof, I am sat in the spot with the highest point.
I only have three walls, as I am on a mezzanine floor, which is open at one side. Floor space is about 4m x 7m.
I have a velux window, which is located outside of the mezzanine area.
My system would probably benefit from firing down the room, but with the confinement, I ended up putting a desk in my mancave, which has stayed for home working.
My seating position is against the rear wall. I was looking at GIK photo panels to help with the reflections.
I have a pitched ceiling/roof, I am sat in the spot with the highest point.
I only have three walls, as I am on a mezzanine floor, which is open at one side. Floor space is about 4m x 7m.
I have a velux window, which is located outside of the mezzanine area.
My system would probably benefit from firing down the room, but with the confinement, I ended up putting a desk in my mancave, which has stayed for home working.
You would be best sitting with the open side of the mezzanine behind you and the speakers facing towards you then that would get rid of one major acoustic problem. Then add some first reflection panels on the two side walls and this may help?
I know. It is best for listening to music, but rubbish for anything else.
Two options - move the room around, which will involve relocating network cables etc. and compromise on working space, or move my main system into the home cinema room, and set up a 2nd system in my mancave.
They are next to each other, so no big inconvenience.
Thanks.
I am torn between a new DDC or a DAC.
I currently have an RME ADI-2 DAC 2 FS, and I am half tempted by a Gustard R26.
The other option is the Audio-GD DI-20HE.
I think that the DAC is likely to make the biggest difference.
I think the R26 would definitely give you a bigger leap in performance. I would go for this DAC rather than any of the other R2R DACs on the market. Here is a great review from someone who has compared it against some of the top DACs out there.
https://soundnews.net/sources/dacs/a-new-point-of-reference-gustard-r26-discrete-r-2r-ladder-dac-review/#:~:text=Even%20without%20listening%20to%20it,ridi culously%20expensive%20R%2D2R%20converters.
Thanks Jim, I have seen that before. This, and other similar reviews are what are tempting me to take a gamble on a new DAC.
There is not much wrong with my RME, but I have not bought any new toys for a while.
I have at least two clients who have gone this route very happily
I have at least two clients who have gone this route very happily
:thumbsup:
If there are no quality concerns (I have never seen/touched a Gustard) then this is looking favourite.
I just need to see what Mrs H says.
Just looked at the 2nd hand sales site. A two year old RME is on there, and a guy wants €800 for it. :lol:
Rs H is not so keen on my idea, so I need to wait a couple of months.
No surprise there….
Lawrence001
27-04-2023, 19:10
Rs or Ms?
Mme if we want to be precise. ;)
expensive new i think. about 1400
€1600
yeah, not sure what the exchange rate is between euro beer tokens and gb ones but one i saw was just over 1450 i think in gbp. sure it will be good, but its a lot of beer
(Is the R26)... a noticeable step up from the AK version of the RME?
I have a friend who upgraded from the RME to the R26. A big step forward.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.