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Come on admit it they do look lovely.
Beovox M75 monitors & stands
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Lawrence001
21-12-2022, 18:51
They do look nice. The question is do they sound any good? [emoji23]
They do look nice. The question is do they sound any good? [emoji23]
The Atc’s might be going [emoji16]
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Lawrence001
21-12-2022, 19:26
Nah I give it 2 days. Or 1 if you're off work.
Nah I give it 2 days. Or 1 if you're off work.
[emoji1787]you’re getting to know me , brilliant.
Back to square one though in the mrs doesn’t like the look of them ! How can you not like them
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cool speakers.
B&O were ahead of the curve with speakers through that period. Still at the cutting edge now. But perceived as lifestyle brand while companies that aren't much more than a bloke in a shed are making 'serious' hi-fi...
cool speakers.
B&O were ahead of the curve with speakers through that period. Still at the cutting edge now. But perceived as lifestyle brand while companies that aren't much more than a bloke in a shed are making 'serious' hi-fi...
I agree mate , there’s been occasions when I’ve not entertained even listening to b&O gear, thankfully this time they’re now putting the atc’s to shame ( really)
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walpurgis
21-12-2022, 19:56
The tweeters and lower mids look like Audax to me and the mid dome looks like Isophon, the bass could be SEAS. Nice selection of drivers.
The tweeters and lower mids look like Audax to me and the mid dome looks like Isophon, the bass could be SEAS. Nice selection of drivers.
I read somewhere that the mid is Atc, it looks identical to the ones in my atc’s.
The bass is just lovely
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Look no atc’s …
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Pigmy Pony
21-12-2022, 20:10
So what's your wife's opinion of them? She must have noticed when she took that picture of you posing next to them. Man they're huge :)
walpurgis
21-12-2022, 20:11
I read somewhere that the mid is Atc, it looks identical to the ones in my atc’s.
Just looked up the Isophon dome unit, looks like you could be right. The only photos I can find show three screw heads around the dome, not the four in your photo. Can't lay my hands on my circa 1980 Isophon driver catalogue at the moment, they did a few versions :).
So what's your wife's opinion of them? She must have noticed when she took that picture of you posing next to them. Man they're huge :)
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Brilliant! They call me Father Christmas at work too [emoji23][emoji23].
Oh and she’s out with the girls and doesn’t know yet !!!
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Pigmy Pony
21-12-2022, 20:20
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Brilliant! They call me Father Christmas at work too [emoji23][emoji23].
Oh and she’s out with the girls and doesn’t know yet !!!
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Hopefully she'll come home legless - women are more amenable when pissed imo. Even I look ok when Mrs. P's had a skinfull :) Personally I think they look great.
Just looked up the Isophon dome unit, looks like you could be right. The only photos I can find show three screw heads around the dome, not the four in your photo. Can't lay my hands on my circa 1980 Isophon driver catalogue at the moment, they did a few versions :).
My ATC mid …
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Hopefully she'll come home legless - women are more amenable when pissed imo. Even I look ok when Mrs. P's had a skinfull :) Personally I think they look great.
You’ve made a stressful day better by making me laugh [emoji23]
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She has just called and I’ve told her , I’m selfish apparently! I’m calling the restaurant to setup a tab for her and her friends.
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Great being widowed that way. [emoji12]
Lawrence001
21-12-2022, 20:47
You could have saved yourself a few bob and just played her favourite tune on them when she gets back a bit worse for wear. Is she into a bit of Barry White?
Great being widowed that way. [emoji12]
Least it isn’t so cold outside now ( I’ll be ok lads don’t worry)
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You could have saved yourself a few bob and just played her favourite tune on them when she gets back a bit worse for wear. Is she into a bit of Barry White?
Going through tracks now before she gets in but yeah Barry white will do it
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or Showaddywaddy
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or Showaddywaddy
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Eh don’t knock shawaddywaddy, grew up listening to them . [emoji1303]
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She’s home !! She likes them , happy days [emoji1303]
Dodged a bullet there phew
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Glad it's all worked out for the best. Well done! :)
B&O make some great gear - both in sound and looks. Often dismissed by the ignorant as "Habitat Hi-Fi", those that take the trouble to listen to their products know they sound good as well. I have several of their cartridges as well as a tuner.
Glad it's all worked out for the best. Well done! :)
B&O make some great gear - both in sound and looks. Often dismissed by the ignorant as "Habitat Hi-Fi", those that take the trouble to listen to their products know they sound good as well. I have several of their cartridges as well as a tuner.
I also have another pair of little b&o’s that I’ve yet to demo , looking forward to that now too .
She’s now singing along and just commented on how good they sound.
RESULT
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So guys I’m now thinking of tinkering with the internals of these over the Christmas break .
They were refurbished by B&O back in 2010 .
I’m thinking of fitting banana post bindings and maybe upgrading the internal wiring for some decent speaker cable.
Maybe bypass the protection circuit ( not sure how that’s done )
What do you think?
Any recommendations?
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no leave them original. That stuff makes no difference anyway or B&O would have done it from the start.
no leave them original. That stuff makes no difference anyway or B&O would have done it from the start.
I did think that [emoji1303]
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Lawrence001
22-12-2022, 08:10
no leave them original. That stuff makes no difference anyway or B&O would have done it from the start.I think opinion is divided. Up to you Andy but if I was keeping them I'd do it. Not straight away I'd live with them a bit and see if I needed to make them better, but the itch usually appears.
I think opinion is divided. Up to you Andy but if I was keeping them I'd do it. Not straight away I'd live with them a bit and see if I needed to make them better, but the itch usually appears.
Yeah I feel torn but that’s a good idea to live with them for a bit .
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I think opinion is divided. Up to you Andy but if I was keeping them I'd do it. Not straight away I'd live with them a bit and see if I needed to make them better, but the itch usually appears.
opinion is only divided because no-one ever does a proper comparison. Re-wire one speaker hook it up to one channel and the unmodded one to the other. Switch to mono and then compare. probably most can't do it as they don't have an amp with a mono and a balance so just rely on memory and the assumption that it must be better. Mods always seem to improve everything...
I rewired a few speakers until I did that check on one pair. Just sounded exactly the same. never fretted about internal wire since.
replacing out of spec crossover components, that is worthwhile.
Inclined to think if wire is ok and it should be then leave it alone. They were not cheap stuff so they will have used decent conductors. Obviously oos components need replacing. The connectors could be replaced to 4mm sockets if your keeping them, else leave them as is
I think I will do the binding posts as I can’t see that devaluing them. Hate the silly little din sockets .
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yup you can replace them or make up a set of short connectors that will do same job easily enough.
Pigmy Pony
22-12-2022, 23:42
opinion is only divided because no-one ever does a proper comparison. Re-wire one speaker hook it up to one channel and the unmodded one to the other. Switch to mono and then compare. probably most can't do it as they don't have an amp with a mono and a balance so just rely on memory and the assumption that it must be better. Mods always seem to improve everything...
I rewired a few speakers until I did that check on one pair. Just sounded exactly the same. never fretted about internal wire since.
replacing out of spec crossover components, that is worthwhile.
Or you could just play a mono record ;)
Or you could just play a mono record ;)
I've only got one!
walpurgis
23-12-2022, 07:27
I've only got one!
I also only have one that I can think of, an early Sargeant Pepper.
Use a tuner and press the mono button.
Lawrence001
23-12-2022, 07:58
Or run them both in parallel from a single channel from the amp. If you're worried about low impedance (eg a pair of 4 ohm speakers from a low current amp) then run them in series ie connect the -ve of one speaker to the positive of the other and then the negative back to the -ve of the same channel. Don't use any trippy phasey recordings though, something with a pretty basic recording with everything near the centre.
Never tried it but I don't think it will blow anything up [emoji23]
Pigmy Pony
23-12-2022, 14:48
I've only got one!
I wondered why your voice is so squeaky...
ive dozens of them, or did. sold some i guess but there will be more up there.
I wondered why your voice is so squeaky...
That was just when I was doing my impression of Bonnie Langford.
Pigmy Pony
23-12-2022, 16:42
I wondered why you was doing this last time I called round. I'd assumed it must be wind...
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Pigmy Pony
23-12-2022, 16:45
ive dozens of them, or did. sold some i guess but there will be more up there.
5 years ago I had none, now I have six. I didn't ask for them that way, they just were.
ive dozens of them, or did. sold some i guess but there will be more up there.
An admirer of Phil Spector then?
An admirer of Phil Spector then?
his wall of sound... ive probably got some of his, but a good few will be blues/jazz/oddities etc
Pigmy Pony
23-12-2022, 17:05
An admirer of Phil Spector then?
Wasn't he responsible for the production on The Beatles' "Let it Be"? My least favourite of their albums, largely due to the sound.
Spector was an advocate of 'mono only' recording for pop music, since in his opinion that is how records would have been reproduced on record players in the '60s.
You are quite correct, Spector was asked by John Lennon to work on 'Let It Be', and George Harrison asked Spector to produce some of his solo work.
But to answer Grant's comment - yes most of my blues and early jazz records are mono. :)
The tweeters and lower mids look like Audax to me and the mid dome looks like Isophon, the bass could be SEAS. Nice selection of drivers.
So after more research the midrange is in fact an iTT model, suspiciously similar to the atc’s though.
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I had the MS150.2, reputed to be B&O's greatest ever passive speaker, and they were superb, really superb.
VanDerGraaf
26-12-2022, 17:09
So after more research the midrange is in fact an iTT model, suspiciously similar to the atc’s though.
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Hi Andy,
More than a year ago we talked about your 107s. How do these sound in comaparison with those, and the Kef driver house sound in general?
I saw those M75 on eBay! Good value I thought.
Hi Andy,
More than a year ago we talked about your 107s. How do these sound in comaparison with those, and the Kef driver house sound in general?
I saw those M75 on eBay! Good value I thought.
Hi , how’s things?
These are surprisingly similar to the 107’s which is probably why I enjoy them so much , the bass goes real deep though , in fact I find myself hunting down loss less tracks as the bass is so nice . The ones on eBay are in fact the M100’s , the big brother to mine .
So impressed with the M75’s that I had to hear their big brother, and they have now found a new home ..
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VanDerGraaf
28-12-2022, 03:55
Hi , how’s things?
These are surprisingly similar to the 107’s which is probably why I enjoy them so much , the bass goes real deep though , in fact I find myself hunting down loss less tracks as the bass is so nice . The ones on eBay are in fact the M100’s , the big brother to mine .
Hi Andy, apart from a very nasty bug over Christmas all is well- I presume all must be going well for you as you've managed to sneak in the aforementioned pair of M100 without being crucified by the missus! Top work.
I bet they sound sublime.
Hi Andy, apart from a very nasty bug over Christmas all is well- I presume all must be going well for you as you've managed to sneak in the aforementioned pair of M100 without being crucified by the missus! Top work.
I bet they sound sublime.
Sorry to hear that you’ve been ill mate ( I usually am at Xmas) .
Yes I would say the m100’s must be the best speakers I’ve ever heard, the bass from the 12” woofers coupled with the super tweeter is just incredible.
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