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hifi_dave
08-09-2022, 17:51
Just seen the very sad news.

struth
08-09-2022, 17:54
yes just saw it myeslf david.. with all family gathering it was most likely and at 96 these things can go quickly. she was 6 yrs younger than my mum. she drove ambulances etc during war too.. last of the real royals.. rip.

rmcin626
08-09-2022, 18:03
Very sad news a great servant for the country

Pigmy Pony
08-09-2022, 20:15
Very sad news a great servant for the country

Indeed Robin, a great servant, and a constant in a world that often makes no sense.

rmcin626
08-09-2022, 20:31
Indeed Robin, a great servant, and a constant in a world that often makes no sense.

Very true Steve

The Black Adder
09-09-2022, 05:08
Yep... Seems strange her to not be here anymore. I'm not a royalist and really don't like what the family has become but the Queen was solid.

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Lawrence001
09-09-2022, 06:37
I'm am a Royalist and very sad today, the world feels a bit more lonely this morning.

struth
09-09-2022, 10:05
mourning to continue for 7 days after funeral... just so out of touch... trouble is by doing that they diminish folks feelings toward the whole thing ...

hifinutt
09-09-2022, 13:54
sad news indeed . what an incredible lady

Macca
09-09-2022, 16:54
mourning to continue for 7 days after funeral... just so out of touch... trouble is by doing that they diminish folks feelings toward the whole thing ...

I don't know, after 70 years you can't just have one day and then forget about it. Maybe three days would have been sufficient though?

Filterlab
09-09-2022, 17:23
mourning to continue for 7 days after funeral... just so out of touch... trouble is by doing that they diminish folks feelings toward the whole thing ...

I'm sure that things will be quite normal the day after the funeral. 7 days is fair enough for the royals, but the rest of us have to work and carry on with life.

That's not to say that we won't remember her for the great person she was of course, but I'm sure we won't all be wearing black and beating ourselves with rods whilst tearing our ash-covered clothes for a week.

Barry
09-09-2022, 17:59
Agreed - it's not as if everything is going to come to a grinding halt. Shops will be open, as will banks and post offices. Cinemas and theatres will also be open, if the venues think it appropriate. As will sports fixtures.

struth
09-09-2022, 18:02
she was a big animal person too.. horses and dogs are well known, but she had pigeons too

Barry
09-09-2022, 18:03
I'm sure that things will be quite normal the day after the funeral. 7 days is fair enough for the royals, but the rest of us have to work and carry on with life.

That's not to say that we won't remember her for the great person she was of course, but I'm sure we won't all be wearing black and beating ourselves with rods whilst tearing our ash-covered clothes for a week.

I, of course, shall continue to wear a tie.

struth
09-09-2022, 18:06
I, of course, shall continue to wear a tie.

ash coloured?

not had a tie on since wife died sadly(on both) i used to like wearing a tie and waistcoat.. my bp is all over the place at moment.. especially systolic..:doh: may be heart ..

edit. actually i did once a year after when my neighbours lovely 18 yr old daughter died.. that was another really hard day. i knew her since she was a baby

Pigmy Pony
09-09-2022, 18:15
I, of course, shall continue to wear a tie.

If you tie it round your waist it'll sort of be half mast.

The period of mourning and the television coverage will to some appear excessive, but I would say to those people: turn off your telly and make time for your other interests. Not a great time for whingeing :(

Barry
09-09-2022, 18:21
ash coloured?



Something like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/YCgpdRH6/022.jpg

(Apologise for the photo. It was taken by my partner, who as you can see, is no photographer! The tie is a pale grey, so could be described as ash coloured.)

Lawrence001
09-09-2022, 18:22
If you tie it round your waist it'll sort of be half mast.

The period of mourning and the television coverage will to some appear excessive, but I would say to those people: turn off your telly and make time for your other interests. Not a great time for whingeing :(Hear hear

struth
09-09-2022, 18:24
If you tie it round your waist it'll sort of be half mast.

The period of mourning and the television coverage will to some appear excessive, but I would say to those people: turn off your telly and make time for your other interests. Not a great time for whingeing :(

oh im ok.. i dont have telly... it was the best decision i ever made actually, and wouldnt take it as a gift now.

Pigmy Pony
09-09-2022, 19:12
oh im ok.. i dont have telly... it was the best decision i ever made actually, and wouldnt take it as a gift now.


Sure I can't interest you in a 14" Sony Trinitron with a greenish tinge to the picture and fag burns on the top? :)

Macca
09-09-2022, 19:21
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Sure I can't interest you in a 14" Sony Trinitron with a greenish tinge to the picture and fag burns on the top? :)

If it wasn't for the fag burns I'd have that. I've got a 14'' Trinitron monitor, it weighs as much as a small moon but still going after 30 years. Used it for a bit when my last telly went on the fritz.

Pigmy Pony
09-09-2022, 19:24
Something like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/YCgpdRH6/022.jpg

(Apologise for the photo. It was taken by my partner, who as you can see, is no photographer! The tie is a pale grey, so could be described as ash coloured.)

Looking good Barry! You quite closely resemble my old English teacher, who at the time seemed ancient. But you actually look younger than me... life is unfair!

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has a mental picture of forum members they've never met or seen, and in every case I've been nowhere near :doh:

struth
09-09-2022, 19:42
Our baz is Mr sartorial elegance

Pigmy Pony
09-09-2022, 19:51
If it wasn't for the fag burns I'd have that. I've got a 14'' Trinitron monitor, it weighs as much as a small moon but still going after 30 years. Used it for a bit when my last telly went on the fritz.

I'm exaggerating, was just one burn mark after a party back in the 80s. It was a great little telly, fantastic picture at the time, and I don't even remember watching it from 10 feet away being an issue.

Macca
09-09-2022, 20:45
I'm exaggerating, was just one burn mark after a party back in the 80s. It was a great little telly, fantastic picture at the time, and I don't even remember watching it from 10 feet away being an issue.

You don't notice after a bit, same with watching something in black and white. Going from 3 months with that little Sony straight to a 55 inch screen was a bit of a jolt though.

Pigmy Pony
09-09-2022, 20:55
When I watch the news (rarely) the newsreader's head is bigger than my old Sony. Not sure whether that is progress or not.

Macca
09-09-2022, 21:03
When I watch the news (rarely) the newsreader's head is bigger than my old Sony. Not sure whether that is progress or not.

yeah course it is. The giant tellys are the only good thing about living in the future.

Imagine if you told people in 1953 wanting to watch the coronation that they could see it on a 60 inch screen in high definition with surround sound? They'd all be round like a shot. They'd smell of offal and jam though so you might want to open the windows before it got underway.

struth
10-09-2022, 01:04
yeah course it is. The giant tellys are the only good thing about living in the future.

Imagine if you told people in 1953 wanting to watch the coronation that they could see it on a 60 inch screen in high definition with surround sound? They'd all be round like a shot. They'd smell of offal and jam though so you might want to open the windows before it got underway.The shark still looks fake[emoji12]

hifinutt
10-09-2022, 02:25
enjoyed some of the many programmes about her life . fascinating stuff , especially her role in building relationships with USA after the suez crisis

Pigmy Pony
10-09-2022, 06:51
enjoyed some of the many programmes about her life . fascinating stuff , especially her role in building relationships with USA after the suez crisis

Although she wasn't in a position to make policy decisions people would recognise she had no political axe to grind, so could always trust her motives. Much of her good work over the decades will have gone by unnoticed by us, she just got on with it.

I don't think anyone else, inside or outside of the Royal Family could have that level of devotion, and probably never will.
The world will be a poorer place without her in it.

The Black Adder
11-09-2022, 13:51
I'm am a Royalist and very sad today, the world feels a bit more lonely this morning.Indeed... The Queen has always given a sense of centering for the country.

King Charlie will do a fine job I think.

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struth
11-09-2022, 14:34
hope he behaves better than the first 2;)

spendorman
11-09-2022, 14:43
I'll probably (and possibly rightly) be shot down here, but I can't help feeling that the hearse should have been a Roll Royce, Daimler, Rover etc. not a Mercedes.

struth
11-09-2022, 14:53
well the house of windsor was the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha until 1917 and George V' proclamation.

spendorman
11-09-2022, 14:58
well the house of windsor was the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha until 1917 and George V' proclamation.

Yes I know, but which side were the Royals on during WW2 The Queen did here bit driving an ambulance etc.

struth
11-09-2022, 14:58
she was also more Scottish than English. so as is way with monarchys, they are a bit mixed. im betting no one had a British hearse that was reliable enough to do the job up here. cannot have it breaking down so a newish one will have been used i guess.

struth
11-09-2022, 15:00
Yes I know, but which side were the Royals on during WW2 The Queen did here bit driving an ambulance etc.

im not anti the queen.. quite opposite. her and queen mum and phillip were the best of them. the rest ive little time for sadly.

Macca
11-09-2022, 15:04
im not anti the queen.. quite opposite. her and queen mum and phillip were the best of them. the rest ive little time for sadly.

Prince William seems to have a fairly sound head on him, his Mrs too.

spendorman
11-09-2022, 15:08
My Dad was Polish, in fact according to others, where he was born was part of Russia so really Russian. That did not stop him being a Captain, then Major in the British Royal Engineers.

struth
11-09-2022, 15:58
My Dad was Polish, in fact according to others, where he was born was part of Russia so really Russian. That did not stop him being a Captain, then Major in the British Royal Engineers.

my ancestors all appear Scottish and islanders afaik. might be some irish blood there too... maybe others but i'd say 99% Scots.

Alex_UK
11-09-2022, 16:05
she was also more Scottish than English. so as is way with monarchys, they are a bit mixed. im betting no one had a British hearse that was reliable enough to do the job up here. cannot have it breaking down so a newish one will have been used i guess.

There is a company that runs a Land Rover Defender hearse, that would have been very appropriate - but of course it would have almost certainly broken down!

I must admit I have enjoyed watching some of the pomp and ceremony - no one does it like the Brits.

I liked the Queen, and sad to see her passing, King Charles has a tough act to follow but I think he will do well.

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 16:08
Prince William seems to have a fairly sound head on him, his Mrs too.

I agree, I think they could be pretty good. But I worry about Kate, she needs feeding.

I don't feel we could count on Harry and Meghan, the Royal Family's own John & Yoko.

Patrick Dixon
11-09-2022, 16:08
I'll probably (and possibly rightly) be shot down here, but I can't help feeling that the hearse should have been a Roll Royce, Daimler, Rover etc. not a Mercedes.

Rolls Royce - now owned by Germans
Daimler - long gone but bought up by Jaguar (now owned by Indians) a long time ago
Rover - now owned by Indians as part of JLR but long dormant

Any others to suggest? We sold off all 'our' assets to the highest bidder long ago.

hifi_dave
11-09-2022, 16:18
My Dad was Polish, in fact according to others, where he was born was part of Russia so really Russian. That did not stop him being a Captain, then Major in the British Royal Engineers.
:clap:

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 16:18
I must admit I have enjoyed watching some of the pomp and ceremony - no one does it like the Brits.

.

I agree - with the world watching, it is clear why the Monarchy is important to Britain. Imo anyway. It makes me feel proud to be British.

Macca
11-09-2022, 16:25
Not sure that Rover or Jaguar were assets at the time they were sold. Been making losses for years. And Rovers were re-badged Hondas at that point anyway. Although those were probably the best cars they ever put out.

Rover went to BMW and Jaguar to Ford IIRC.

struth
11-09-2022, 16:41
Rolls Royce - now owned by Germans
Daimler - long gone but bought up by Jaguar (now owned by Indians) a long time ago
Rover - now owned by Indians as part of JLR but long dormant

Any others to suggest? We sold off all 'our' assets to the highest bidder long ago.

rolls royce/bentley, and especially the former were interesting.. vw bought the rights to the grill and the spirit of ectasy but bmw bought the name and logo.. think bmw did best and now make them i think. bentley are vw made at the old rr factory in crewe.

Macca
11-09-2022, 17:10
i think. bentley are vw made at the old rr factory in crewe.

Some components are from VW Group but all the coachwork and some other parts are made in house and they source and send parts all over the world. I know because they were my last big account before getting made redundant. Had a fair few meetings with them.

struth
11-09-2022, 17:13
Some components are from VW Group but all the coachwork and some other parts are made in house and they source and send parts all over the world. I know because they were my last big account before getting made redundant. Had a fair few meetings with them.

should have said 'owned' yup think engines etc are made by vw group now. bodywork etc probably made at rr's old crewe factory that vw retained

Macca
11-09-2022, 17:39
should have said 'owned' yup think engines etc are made by vw group now. bodywork etc probably made at rr's old crewe factory that vw retained

Thing with VW and a lot of public companies is that they are owned by the shareholders - and that could be anyone, anywhere. 14% of VW Group is owned by Qatar Holding LLC. Not entirely sure who that is but I'm guessing they don't wear Lederhosen. :)

Another 25% is owned by 'Foreign institutional investors'.

https://annualreport2018.volkswagenag.com/group-management-report/shares-and-bonds/shareholder-structure.html

spendorman
11-09-2022, 19:13
I should be happy now. Just watched on YouTube

King Charles III leaves Buckingham Palace (in a Rolls Royce)

https://youtu.be/aPQq13_YDog

Pigmy Pony
12-09-2022, 06:12
I should be happy now. Just watched on YouTube

King Charles III leaves Buckingham Palace (in a Rolls Royce)

https://youtu.be/aPQq13_YDog

With an RAC van following at a discrete distance, probably. But that's ok, RAC is British-owned afaik :)

struth
12-09-2022, 06:49
With an RAC van following at a discrete distance, probably. But that's ok, RAC is British-owned afaik :)

owned by an equity firm based in luxembourg alas...cvc

struth
12-09-2022, 06:50
I should be happy now. Just watched on YouTube

King Charles III leaves Buckingham Palace (in a Rolls Royce)

https://youtu.be/aPQq13_YDog

in the days when a roller was a roller :D

spendorman
12-09-2022, 07:17
Reminds me of the old joke, I have a very rare Rolls, a Rolls Canardly, rolls down the hill canarldy get up again.

struth
12-09-2022, 07:31
or the guy who phoned rolls to ask for the bill for fixing his car.. garage said sorry sir but our cars dont break down; you must mean another car..;)

supposedly true.

spendorman
13-09-2022, 12:02
I thought this quite good

https://youtu.be/F_imQFHZ7uI

Barry
14-09-2022, 00:00
My partner, who has been in London for the last few days, went to Buckingham palace to pay her respects and lay some flowers. There was a local flower seller there who must be making a fortune - £10 for three roses: one red; one white and the third blue (although the latter, if genuine, are expensive).

Bksabath
18-09-2022, 14:58
Late here
Sad days I must agree
Got loads of point when she pulled a sickie to go to that clown parliament but went to the races the day after and this is just small feat compared to the life she had But how much is it going to cost?

I heard 5 Billions
And that child molester still free and showing his face on telly

To our new King I must say
Your subjects are sleeping in the street corners and can do whit a meal and a hot shower ...

Pigmy Pony
18-09-2022, 15:27
Late here
Sad days I must agree
Got loads of point when she pulled a sickie to go to that clown parliament but went to the races the day after and this is just small feat compared to the life she had But how much is it going to cost?

I heard 5 Billions
And that child molester still free and showing his face on telly

To our new King I must say
Your subjects are sleeping in the street corners and can do whit a meal and a hot shower ...


I'm sure His Maj is well aware of the homeless' plight, but I'm not sure what he can do about it. I wouldn't expect to see him working soup kitchens any time soon but then I won't be either.

Maybe he could help through charity work, God knows the Royals patronise a shitload of charities. But I somehow doubt his schedule will make time for that.

Bksabath
18-09-2022, 18:39
Yes you quite right they do. is it not good to get tax rebates?

How many homeless did they evict from the corners in this past week ?

Pigmy Pony
19-09-2022, 08:01
Yes you quite right they do. is it not good to get tax rebates?

How many homeless did they evict from the corners in this past week ?

AFAIK the Royal family are not compelled to pay income tax, though for the last 30 years the Queen has done so voluntarily. So the notion that charity work is done for the purposes of tax relief just doesn't hold up.

I doubt the Royals had any say in these "evictions". And I doubt the homeless will get any mention in any eulogy. Today is a day to re-unite the Queen and her husband, and celebrate her life, not go on about the country's woes. No offence, like.

There will be a fair bit of pageantry, more than enough to make me proud to be British.

struth
19-09-2022, 08:27
hopefully it all goes off without a hitch.. certainly enough cops there, plus im sure army etc... but there is always some looney.....

Filterlab
19-09-2022, 09:52
hopefully it all goes off without a hitch.. certainly enough cops there, plus im sure army etc... but there is always some looney.....

I can't even begin to imagine how busy MI5, MI6 and the Met are this weekend!

struth
19-09-2022, 10:56
I can't even begin to imagine how busy MI5, MI6 and the Met are this weekend!

roads are quiet here;) oh, that mi5... yup there will be snipers everywhere. lots of guns under jackets etc ...

Filterlab
19-09-2022, 11:04
I'd love to see their security plan. I bet it's sewed up tighter than a parachute.

Very quiet here too. No noise anywhere. It's eerie.

Swann36
19-09-2022, 12:13
AFAIK the Royal family are not compelled to pay income tax, though for the last 30 years the Queen has done so voluntarily. So the notion that charity work is done for the purposes of tax relief just doesn't hold up.

I doubt the Royals had any say in these "evictions". And I doubt the homeless will get any mention in any eulogy. Today is a day to re-unite the Queen and her husband, and celebrate her life, not go on about the country's woes. No offence, like.



There will be a fair bit of pageantry, more than enough to make me proud to be British.

Well said and yes very quiet on my lane not a car or tractor has passed the house so far

Pigmy Pony
19-09-2022, 12:57
Nothing's passed here. But then we haven't left the house either.

struth
19-09-2022, 13:18
ive been out twice lol. rds a bit busier this afternoon. had to drop a card off for the grandson..

struth
19-09-2022, 14:52
I'll probably (and possibly rightly) be shot down here, but I can't help feeling that the hearse should have been a Roll Royce, Daimler, Rover etc. not a Mercedes.

this should please you Alex....

The new state hearse is thought to be based on the Jaguar XJ saloon design and customised by Wilcox Limousines, which is based in Wigan.

As well as input from the Royal Household, the Queen (https://inews.co.uk/topic/the-queen?ico=in-line_link) is believed to have approved the final plans for the vehicle.
The hearse was first used on 13 September to transport the Queen’s coffin from RAF Northolt to Buckinghams Palace (https://inews.co.uk/news/queen-final-journey-buckingham-palace-edinburgh-crowds-route-1854007?ico=in-line_link) ahead of her lying in state (https://inews.co.uk/news/lying-in-state-mean-where-public-visit-queen-coffin-what-meaning-explained-1843526?ico=in-line_link).