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F575M
05-04-2022, 16:51
Chaps,

My preamp has Matsushita valves, I would like to replace them with Telefunkens, they do not need to be the best, just good quality ones.

There are many on ebay but it is like a lottery, any reliable seller around?

Cheers,

mik_rik
05-04-2022, 20:47
Hi,
Although I can't really give you advice on good sellers,I can (through experience)give you some advice on how to spot fake Telefunken valves
p.s Matsushita's are a bit of a "sleeper" brand ,being made on ex European equipment,possibly Mullard ? (I stand to be corrected on that though)

CageyH
06-04-2022, 04:27
You could try audiotubes.com or upscale audio.com
I have never used them, but they are both in the States, and should be able to help you.

guy
06-04-2022, 18:41
Same as European ecc83?

Telefunken valves have a diamond moulding in the base (which I would guess would be beyond most cheapskate frauds to produce?).

Sovtek LPS ECC83 is quite well thought of, if telefunkens are too expensive, I bought some here (but out of stock, and likely to remain so for a while!) https://www.watfordvalves.com/product_detail.asp?id=1307

CageyH
06-04-2022, 20:17
I have also used Bertrand at http://www.electrotubes.com/index-en.html before.
TFKs are not cheap, but he is a reliable seller.
It is also worth looking at the Mazda or La Radiotechnique ECC83.
Both are quite good.

Jimbo
07-04-2022, 06:45
Err I think genuine unused NOS Telefunken 12AX7 are now classified as unobtainium.

Someone please prove me wrong.:)

CageyH
07-04-2022, 06:59
Err I think genuine unused NOS Telefunken 12AX7 are now classified as unobtainium.

Someone please prove me wrong.:)

Have a look at my link.

Jimbo
07-04-2022, 07:10
Have a look at my link.

At the top of the list sheet it states NOS "Appears to be new old stock"???? I would go for the NIB...but they are very cheap for genuine New unused Telefunken 12AX7. Considering these are highly sought after and command much higher prices even in used condition I am very surprised these are available at such a cheap price unused?

Jimbo
07-04-2022, 07:17
Well blow me I have found some new Telefunken 12AX7 at half that price.:)

https://sxpro.co.uk/telefunken-ecc83-tk-12ax7-vacuum-tube/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwl7qSBhD-ARIsACvV1X2uFAJTV8-yWFzjcZnCdMELJmSSjV4N07S0hh7oilcMrsczaurxuagaAqLxE ALw_wcB

guy
07-04-2022, 07:54
Well blow me I have found some new Telefunken 12AX7 at half that price.:)

https://sxpro.co.uk/telefunken-ecc83-tk-12ax7-vacuum-tube/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwl7qSBhD-ARIsACvV1X2uFAJTV8-yWFzjcZnCdMELJmSSjV4N07S0hh7oilcMrsczaurxuagaAqLxE ALw_wcB

Aren't they modern ones made by JJ in Slovakia?

Could be the same valve at about half the price again: https://www.watfordvalves.com/product_detail.asp?id=3539

Jimbo
07-04-2022, 08:03
Yes they are JJ manufactured. Just pointing out there are Telefunkens and Telefunkens.:)

CageyH
07-04-2022, 08:18
At the top of the list sheet it states NOS "Appears to be new old stock"???? I would go for the NIB...but they are very cheap for genuine New unused Telefunken 12AX7. Considering these are highly sought after and command much higher prices even in used condition I am very surprised these are available at such a cheap price unused?

Compared to what I paid last year, I thought they were expensive.

sailor
07-04-2022, 16:40
Brent Jessee has genuine NOS/NIB. His site is very informative and worth a look at.

http://www.audiotubes.com/12ax7.htm

Scroll down till you get to: OK, SO TELL ME HOW THEY SOUND!! in red.

Better sit down when you get to the prices!

Jimbo
07-04-2022, 17:27
Yep $900 each!! for Telefunken 12AX7. That looks more like the price I have seen for genuine NOS. To be fair there are some much better priced 12AX7 on the list at $100 each.

Ali Tait
07-04-2022, 17:47
They are great valves. Glad I bought all of my stash before the prices went really crazy.

philv
09-04-2022, 18:52
Try the bish on the wam