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F575M
04-03-2022, 18:36
Hi Chaps,

I may be getting a PM Mk6 tonearm. Angus recommends a cartridge with good detail and good treble extension, he leans towards Ortofon but, with exception of a Super MK II, I had thirty years ago, I know nothing about their new line. I am looking for recommendations for an Ortofon that fits this criteria, not too expensive please.

Cheers,

CageyH
04-03-2022, 18:48
MC I assume?

F575M
04-03-2022, 22:18
Yes, MC.

CageyH
04-03-2022, 22:35
Just because Angus likes Ortofon, there is no need to follow suit.
What brand do you normally run?

F575M
05-03-2022, 00:21
In the past five years I had a Linn LP12-Ittok LVIII-Benz Micro, sold it and bought a Technics SP-10-FR66-Denon DL-103R. Now I have a rebuilt 401-3009-Denon DL-103R which was the wrong cartridge for this arm.

A factor which many users do not take into account is the effect of the turntable itself on cartridge choice. Belt drives tend to softness which some equate to delicacy, direct drives are mostly neutral and speed stable, and idlers are bass-heavy. These are generalisations of course, with some exceptions, but need to be considered when choosing a cartridge. With my focus on classical music and a 401 idler (which is bass-heavy) I should look for a cartridge with good detail and good treble extension. Otherwise the delicate end of the sweep of classical will be lost. So it is not a matter of taste.

Light Capture
05-03-2022, 00:59
I'm using an Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge on a Thorens TD203 turntable. It has excellent detail and clarity, superb extended highs, tight bass and a punchy sound. And for a very good price too. Their entire 2M series is spectacular w/ excellent reviews.
https://i.postimg.cc/6Q5TLFf5/MT1-4826.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XJGpPh1K/MT1-4241.jpg

CageyH
05-03-2022, 01:44
In the past five years I had a Linn LP12-Ittok LVIII-Benz Micro, sold it and bought a Technics SP-10-FR66-Denon DL-103R. Now I have a rebuilt 401-3009-Denon DL-103R which was the wrong cartridge for this arm.

A factor which many users do not take into account is the effect of the turntable itself on cartridge choice. Belt drives tend to softness which some equate to delicacy, direct drives are mostly neutral and speed stable, and idlers are bass-heavy. These are generalisations of course, with some exceptions, but need to be considered when choosing a cartridge. With my focus on classical music and a 401 idler (which is bass-heavy) I should look for a cartridge with good detail and good treble extension. Otherwise the delicate end of the sweep of classical will be lost. So it is not a matter of taste.

If you are looking for something not too expensive, then how about the AT33PTG/II?
It is not bass heavy, but has good detail.

F575M
05-03-2022, 05:07
Frightfully sorry chaps but I should have been more clear. This time I would prefer a High Output MC, like Mike suggested, in order avoid an unnecessary link to the chain, a transformer and another pair of cables. That's the reason I recently sold my Auditorium A 23 SUT.

walpurgis
05-03-2022, 07:28
This time I would prefer a High Output MC

That rather limits your choice and most high output MC's that I've heard or owned haven't generally been wonderful. The high output version of the Goldring Eroica is reputed to be decent though, not tried it myself.

CageyH
05-03-2022, 08:00
Hana SH or MH would be worth a try.

That is based on user feedback, as I have never owned either.

CageyH
05-03-2022, 08:03
This is your choice if you want an Ortofon:

https://www.ortofon.com/hifi/products/hifi-cartridges?categoryId=87&subCategoryId=114

Angus does not use one of these though.

worrasf
05-03-2022, 12:03
Should you decide that it doesn't have to be a MC I have a mint Sumiko Amethyst (MM) and Benz Silver (HOMC) sitting on the shelf and going nowhere. Both are excellent.

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rusty bearing
06-03-2022, 10:27
I have the Hana SL, if the high output SH is as good it's worth considering

hifi_dave
07-03-2022, 16:53
Definitely take a look at Hana. Great cartridges and better value than Ortofon as they manufacture themselves.

F575M
07-03-2022, 18:41
I have decided to go with an AT33PTG/II and a Denon HA 500 head amp with capacitors upgrade. The AT33 is a great match for the PM Mk6. The Verismo is too expensive for me, it sells for $7K here in the States.

Cas
29-03-2022, 12:46
Not an Ortofon but you could try a Denon DL-110 high output MC cartridge, think they are still around to buy.