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RMutt
11-01-2022, 15:48
Hello and happy new year. I've been happily using Spotify Premium through my various Squeezeboxes via spotty for ages. I've been waiting for Spotify HiFi but this seems to be on hold.
In the meantime both Amazon and Apple have become more affordable.
I'm looking for some assistance with getting either Amazon or Apple to my hifi. Ideally I would want to connect an ethernet connected device to my amp and choose songs on something like a phone app.
Is there a way of doing this that does not use the proprietary devices like Echo and Echo link? I'd prefer to avoid Bluetooth or having to choose music on a computer, laptop or TV screen.
Is anyone doing this? Is there a cost effective way of doing it?
Thanks. Andy.

struth
11-01-2022, 16:02
i dare say apple could be worked via an apple tv box. especially if tv has an optical out to dac. guess amazon can too. if tv is right type and has a good audio out like optical i guess you could do without the boxes etv

RMutt
11-01-2022, 16:16
Thanks Grant. I don't have a TV in the room. Chromecast uses HDMI I believe? As does a Firestick. It would need to be something that connects to the internet and my hifi via a DAC and where I could choose songs on a phone app. (I use ipenguin for this at the moment through Squeezeboxes). It might not actually be possible, I'm not sure.

struth
11-01-2022, 16:31
a rpi maybe?

RMutt
11-01-2022, 16:39
Possibly, yes. I wonder if anyone has used an rpi successfully with Amazon HD or Apple HD?

Kit1cat
11-01-2022, 18:51
Depending on the software, you can usually use Airplay from a Raspberry Pi, but I don't think it supports HD music.

mikeyb
11-01-2022, 19:14
Very few devices work natively with Amazon music.

Can't be done on a Pi, you need to hunt down devices that can work.

Only early versions of the Fire TV boxes have optical out.

Amazon won't release the required apk to allow it on devices like the pi I'm afraid.

Bluesound can use Amazon music, Sonos too

I'm editing as I search [emoji6]

Denon Heos

DTS Play-fi devices as listed here..

https://play-fi.com/products/

bob4333
12-01-2022, 08:58
Good question OP.

The closest I got was to plug the line out from one of my Echo Dots into the back of my preamp.

The result was far from overwhelming but this was just Amazon Music, not HD.

I didn't go as far as putting the Amazon app on my Android tablet that I use as a remote for my NAS and player, and couldn't quite get my head around whether this would work anyway. So it was just shouty commands to Alexa on what to play: probably requires more thought and dedication on my part.

I shall watch this thread with interest.

RMutt
12-01-2022, 09:19
Thanks, Barry, Mike and Bob. I didn't want to go down the Alexa/Echo route and am surprised as to how difficult it seems to be to apply to a hifi situation and not a smart speaker/Bluetooth/Sonos scenario. Apple and Amazon seem to have hamstrung their HD formats a little with their restrictions on application, given the HD versions are probably of little interest to the smart speaker brigade. I'll check out your links Mike.

Kit1cat
12-01-2022, 11:12
I have been running Amazon Ultra HD through my hifi for the last couple of months, in a round about way.

I have a fire stick pluged into my AV receiver (both support 24/192). I run the front pre outs from to AV receiver to the pre ins on my Audiolab stereo amp and select pure direct output on the AV receiver. Sounds very good to me. Pictue on tv confims I am listening in HD, when avaiable.

CageyH
12-01-2022, 11:39
I have a PC connected to my HiFi. No issues running any streaming app.
I can also stream films to the TV next to the HiFi.

struth
12-01-2022, 12:19
I have a PC connected to my HiFi. No issues running any streaming app.
I can also stream films to the TV next to the HiFi.

its what i use too.

RMutt
12-01-2022, 15:11
PC or TV in the room isn't a route I particularly want to go down to be honest, Out of interest how are you getting the music out of your PC Kevin? Is it USB into a DAC?

kirstysdad
27-01-2022, 19:52
Chrips Jings, there was me thinking I was thick because I couldn't find a way to do just this and assumed I needed to do it via Bluetooth... assumed there was an easy route that I was too dense to work out! Not convenient in the slightest by the look of it unless you go down the Alexa/Sonos route then?

kirstysdad
27-01-2022, 19:53
I have a PC connected to my HiFi. No issues running any streaming app.
I can also stream films to the TV next to the HiFi.

Connected via the 3.5mm jack? Mine sounds rubbish like that.

stevekr
02-02-2022, 21:09
I bought a mac mini 2014 for £120 and I use Apple Music with Bit Perfect app. for my media. HDMI from the Mac Mini into my Marantz NR1403 AV Receiver and Falcon Acoustic Q7 Mini Monitors.

I use my iPhone or iPad with Home Sharing to select and play media. Works a treat and sounds great. I have 220GB of CD rips @16/44 and a selection
of HD Albums @24/192. The Bit Perfect app. takes control of the Apple Midi Settings so you don't have to change it manually when playing differing formats.

It's not a bad little computer either.

CageyH
03-02-2022, 11:14
Connected via the 3.5mm jack? Mine sounds rubbish like that.

No, I am actually using USB, into a Digital interface, then into my DAC.
I used to use an Asus Essence STX II sound card, with a direct RCA feed to my pre-amp. It was not too shabby, but the new set up is slightly better.

CageyH
03-02-2022, 11:15
PC or TV in the room isn't a route I particularly want to go down to be honest, Out of interest how are you getting the music out of your PC Kevin? Is it USB into a DAC?

See the above post. Just catching up - sorry for the delay in responding.