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My best experience has been with the transport of early Marantz/Philips CD1 players, but these are old and getting tired now and I could be buying trouble.
So in terms of modern dedicated transports what would you recommend - lets give a target cost of very approximately £1000
Thanks
hifinutt
20-07-2021, 11:51
Slot loader or tray?
Got one of these I've been very happy with (not that it gets used much since I got a streamer).
https://www.whathifi.com/cyrus/cd-t/review
AJSki2fly
20-07-2021, 12:19
My best experience has been with the transport of early Marantz/Philips CD1 players, but these are old and getting tired now and I could be buying trouble.
So in terms of modern dedicated transports what would you recommend - lets give a target cost of very approximately £1000
Thanks
I think you could be hard pushed to beat an Audiolab 6000CDT several on here have recommended it to me and only about £400.
I went a step further and purchased the Audiolab 8300CDQ which uses the same as the 6000CDT but has a very good DAC and can be used as pre-amp as well, its a bit of a hidden gem IMHO. see https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?73316-Audiolab-8300CDQ-Review&highlight=8300cdq
Slot loader or tray?
Not fussed. :)
Got one of these I've been very happy with (not that it gets used much since I got a streamer).
https://www.whathifi.com/cyrus/cd-t/review
Yes the Cyrus players sneak into most overviews of good products.
I think you could be hard pushed to beat an Audiolab 6000CDT several on here have recommended it to me and only about £400.
I went a step further and purchased the Audiolab 8300CDQ which uses the same as the 6000CDT but has a very good DAC and can be used as pre-amp as well, its a bit of a hidden gem IMHO. see https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?73316-Audiolab-8300CDQ-Review&highlight=8300cdq
Yes I looked at this some time ago against the Cambridge CXC at a similar price. Finally I bought the CXC new and was untimately disappointed. Great player at the price point, but I would like a bit more.
Now that sets the bar high :)
Had a CXC and the Cyrus definitely outperforms that by some margin. Got mine for around £500 on ebay, used through a Chord Hugo TT.
AJSki2fly
20-07-2021, 13:35
Yes I looked at this some time ago against the Cambridge CXC at a similar price. Finally I bought the CXC new and was untimately disappointed. Great player at the price point, but I would like a bit more.
Now that sets the bar high :)
Just noticed your set up Chris, you do have quite a high end system and it probably depends upon what you are looking for in CD playback. By that I mean if you have a lreasonable CD collection and want to play them a lot and want the best sound you can get then you may want to think about spending a bit more than the £1K. But if you're going to be an occasional CD listener and primarily listen to streamed Hi-res music then IMO I would try and get a home trial of the Audiolab 6000T at home along side the Cyrus Cdi and see which one does it for you, if neither time to think again.
Cheers
Adrian
Just noticed your set up Chris, you do have quite a high end system and it probably depends upon what you are looking for in CD playback. By that I mean if you have a lreasonable CD collection and want to play them a lot and want the best sound you can get then you may want to think about spending a bit more than the £1K. But if you're going to be an occasional CD listener and primarily listen to streamed Hi-res music then IMO I would try and get a home trial of the Audiolab 6000T at home along side the Cyrus Cdi and see which one does it for you, if neither time to think again.
Cheers
Adrian
Thanks Adrian. Yep the system can be quite revealing :)
I've got about 5000 CDs of which over a 1000 so far have been copied down to my main music server and these form the core of what I listen to.
Many of the CDs have been acquired over the years and have not even been listened to properly. Equally many more in the future will be speculative buys from charity shops as many people discard the medium. I think it would be nice to just pop them in a CD transport for a listen rather than having to burn every one to a hard drive to see if its a keeper.
I'll leave this here...
Audiolab 6000CDT.
I use mine with a 6K Dac, a power cable that's 3 times its price, and...its in good company.
Buy with confidence.
User reviews over on Audiogon and Steve Hoffman (American) forums say it leaves the Cyrus in its wake.
Did a LOT of research before i bought one, spent a lot of money (previously) on my "final" music CD spinner https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?56087-Hey-guess-what-I%92m-about-to-do-Major-Oppo-mods
but the Audiolab kept getting my attention, and it sounds better playing CDs.
Its a future classic IMO, astonishing sounding thing, highly recommended.
Hope this helps.
https://youtu.be/bKOMVcpGjAE
https://youtu.be/JAfk5a5M5ds
https://theaudiophileman.com/6000cdt-cd-transport-from-audiolab/
Yes the Audiolab will give you everything that is on the CD. I'm not exactly using mine with a load of tat either and I'm more than happy with it.
Equating price with sound quality often a mistake especially with digital.
AJSki2fly
20-07-2021, 15:57
I'll leave this here...
Audiolab 6000CDT.
I use mine with a 6K Dac, a power cable that's 3 times its price, and...its in good company.
Buy with confidence.
User reviews over on Audiogon and Steve Hoffman (American) forums say it leaves the Cyrus in its wake.
Did a LOT of research before i bought one, spent a lot of money (previously) on my "final" music CD spinner https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?56087-Hey-guess-what-I%92m-about-to-do-Major-Oppo-mods
but the Audiolab kept getting my attention, and it sounds better playing CDs.
Its a future classic IMO, astonishing sounding thing, highly recommended.
Hope this helps.
https://youtu.be/bKOMVcpGjAE
https://youtu.be/JAfk5a5M5ds
https://theaudiophileman.com/6000cdt-cd-transport-from-audiolab/
Well that just about says it all, if it’s anything like my 8300cdq then it’s a going to sound great, just plug it into a reasonable DAC and off you go.
Hopped on ebay to check prices on the Audiolab, Peter Tyson were selling a silver one &, apparently, there was a 20% off voucher available... Should be here Thursday :)
AJSki2fly
20-07-2021, 16:13
Hopped on ebay to check prices on the Audiolab, Peter Tyson were selling a silver one &, apparently, there was a 20% off voucher available... Should be here Thursday :)
[emoji106][emoji846]enjoy
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Filterlab
20-07-2021, 18:54
If you're using an external DAC, it would be the Teac VRDS for me every time. Superb transports and ultra high build quality. Or the Pioneer variants (PD Reference models) for that matter.
Hopped on ebay to check prices on the Audiolab, Peter Tyson were selling a silver one &, apparently, there was a 20% off voucher available... Should be here Thursday :)
:) Nice one Roy.
If you're using an external DAC, it would be the Teac VRDS for me every time. Superb transports and ultra high build quality. Or the Pioneer variants (PD Reference models) for that matter.
Vintage now though so you've got longevity to consider. That's why I bought new this time even though it's against my religion. I figure that will give me the maximum amount of time before I have to replace it again.
I did look at CD players around a grand to fifteen hundred but there was nothing that took my fancy and they all seemed a bit over-priced. For that money I want battleship build quality.
Reading around the Audiolab 6000CDT last night and quite a few reports of players skipping during playback and being returned. Anyone know anything about this?
OK, The deed is done.
Phoned my local Richer Sounds and excercised a price match against the Peter Tyson price of £304. They ageed and gave me a further £10 off because they liked the cut of my jib :)
So all in, it was £294 in silver, sealed box with 2 yr gaurantee.
Thanks for all your help and guidance.
https://youtu.be/KZB7xEonjsc
AJSki2fly
21-07-2021, 12:25
OK, The deed is done.
Phoned my local Richer Sounds and excercised a price match against the Peter Tyson price of £304. They ageed and gave me a further £10 off because they liked the cut of my jib :)
So all in, it was £294 in silver, sealed box with 2 yr gaurantee.
Thanks for all your help and guidance.
Well I will be very interested to here you thoughts on it once plugged into your system and you have had chance to had a listen.
Well I will be very interested to here you thoughts on it once plugged into your system and you have had chance to had a listen.
Me too. Currenty using a Marantz CD67SE as transport (saved from a skip), feeding this into a £4800 DAC, so expecting at least some improvement. :). But realistically I dont expect it to get anywhere near the SW1X music server and USB/spdiff converter.
AJSki2fly
21-07-2021, 12:42
There are some very good bits of kit out there that do not cost thousands which really hold there own, this is particularly true in the digital domain, just need to know what to go for.
I hope it surprises you.[emoji846]
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Reading around the Audiolab 6000CDT last night and quite a few reports of players skipping during playback and being returned. Anyone know anything about this?
Read about this when researching buying my own.
It was the same few people who were posting on different forums about it, all around the same time.
My takeaway was that it was a "Friday Afternoon" job, a bad batch that affected a few folk.
Cant fault playback on mine, built like a tank, smooth and whisper quiet.
Zero scratched discs or skips, played every CDR and CDRW I've put in it.
gave me a further £10 off because they liked the cut of my jib :)
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I didn’t think of showing them my jib?
Read about this when researching buying my own.
It was the same few people who were posting on different forums about it, all around the same time.
My takeaway was that it was a "Friday Afternoon" job, a bad batch that affected a few folk.
Cant fault playback on mine, built like a tank, smooth and whisper quiet.
Zero scratched discs or skips, played every CDR and CDRW I've put in it.
I did the belt and braces insurance - 6 years of cover for about £30. Any repairs over that entire period are collected and posted back at Richer Sounds expense and after the 6 years if no claims have been made the entire £30 is refunded in full.
I didn’t think of showing them my jib?
Well lesson learnt there :)
You got to give them a good look at you jib if you want money off these days. I thought everyone knew that?
They’d probably charge me more.
Tactical thinking, I like it.
‘Put that away and give us another tenner’
hifinutt
21-07-2021, 15:55
Reading around the Audiolab 6000CDT last night and quite a few reports of players skipping during playback and being returned. Anyone know anything about this?
Most of what I read is 95% positive, some complain they scratch cds so I won't risk it
AJSki2fly
21-07-2021, 16:16
Most of what I read is 95% positive, some complain they scratch cds so I won't risk it
Has not done so to any of mine yet.
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I think if you're especially clumsy putting the CD in the slot (like me) it's possible to scratch the CD on the outer edge of the slot.
You'd have to go some though to damage the CD so it wouldn't play. I've not seen anyone say that though, just some pictures of marks on the CD.
I do wonder how they knew the marks were not there before? Can't say that I examine my CDs before I play them if I had no reason to.
Anyway I did test that with a totally unblemished and brand new never played CD, put it in carefully three times, after which it was still unmarked.
I've a few CD that have played maybe 10 times since I got the Audiolab, no idea what condition they were in before but whatever, they still play perfectly. I really can't see that there's an issue.
im not keen on slot loaders and never have been, although i believe they have improved a bit. i would never put one of my blurays in one ; no idea if they make bluray ones tho. im like barry and both keep them perfect and also straight in the case:doh:
im not keen on slot loaders and never have been, although i believe they have improved a bit. i would never put one of my blurays in one ; no idea if they make bluray ones tho. im like barry and both keep them perfect and also straight in the case:doh:
Given the choice I'd take a draw but it wasn't a deal breaker for me. Tens of millions of slot loaders in cars used literally billions of times, if slot loading mechs damaged CDs we'd have known about it years ago.
Anyone wanna buy a Cyrus cdt?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210722/8156fc9f378184b5c8d0236ac4e95bb9.jpg
Antinchip
22-07-2021, 12:08
Your jib looks just fine from here Roy!
I got my 6000CDT a few months back also from Peter Tyson with Ebay discount. Very pleased. Now feeding my Luxman L-505uX MkII via a Soncoz SGD1. All just fine here.
Cheers
:thumbsup:
That a Wireworld digi cable Roy?
Anyone wanna buy a Cyrus cdt?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210722/8156fc9f378184b5c8d0236ac4e95bb9.jpg
I had intended doing an a/b comparison of the two transports via the DAC but it's too hot to be juggling components and after a few 'goosebump' moments playing the Audiolab (Springsteen's voice on 'Promised Land' - wow!) I've stuck the Audiolab in the rack and the Cyrus on ebay :)
AJSki2fly
22-07-2021, 15:51
I had intended doing an a/b comparison of the two transports via the DAC but it's too hot to be juggling components and after a few 'goosebump' moments playing the Audiolab (Springsteen's voice on 'Promised Land' - wow!) I've stuck the Audiolab in the rack and the Cyrus on ebay :)
Well that just about says it all!
Filterlab
22-07-2021, 17:35
Vintage now though so you've got longevity to consider. That's why I bought new this time even though it's against my religion. I figure that will give me the maximum amount of time before I have to replace it again.
I did look at CD players around a grand to fifteen hundred but there was nothing that took my fancy and they all seemed a bit over-priced. For that money I want battleship build quality.
That's true, but as long as the parts are available, which they seem to be for most CD players, they really are a piece of piss to repair and service.
I serviced a Marantz CD-52SE MkII for a client the other day, had to replace the tray cog and belt. So easy to work on. Cleaned and tested everything, sounds much better now. He was happy. :)
That's true, but as long as the parts are available, which they seem to be for most CD players, they really are a piece of piss to repair and service.
I serviced a Marantz CD-52SE MkII for a client the other day, had to replace the tray cog and belt. So easy to work on. Cleaned and tested everything, sounds much better now. He was happy. :)
I've got at least half a dozen of them that need repairing in some way or another. I bought a guide on how to do it but it's the size of a phone book. It's a project for retirement.
Didn't pay extra for next day delivery, but guess what, it came within 24 hours.
First impressions are very good, but am leaving it a few days to settle in.
I plan a personal shoot out comparing Toshiba DVD player transport, Marantz CD 67SE transport, Audiolab 6000CDT and SW1X music server with dedicated USB. Prior experience of them all suggests they will rank in that order.
At present and again from recent memory the Audiolab 6000CDT sits above the Cambridge CXC I owned.
Look forward to the shootout :popcorn:
Didn't pay extra for next day delivery, but guess what, it came within 24 hours.
First impressions are very good, but am leaving it a few days to settle in.
I plan a personal shoot out comparing Toshiba DVD player transport, Marantz CD 67SE transport, Audiolab 6000CDT and SW1X music server with dedicated USB. Prior experience of them all suggests they will rank in that order.
At present and again from recent memory the Audiolab 6000CDT sits above the Cambridge CXC I owned.
Look forward to the shootout :popcorn:
Cheers. I will feed them all through the SW1X DAC III, so nothing will go unobserved. Over the years I have moved away from the classic observation of more bass, more treble, veils removed etc.
My main criteria for a digital front end are.
1. Which sounds more real?
2. Which is more relaxing to listen to?
3. Is the soundstage mirrored by separation of various instruments and voices?
4. Does the system convey emotion?
5. Is it value for money?
Lawrence001
23-07-2021, 12:09
Cheers. I will feed them all through the SW1X DAC III, so nothing will go unobserved. Over the years I have moved away from the classic observation of more bass, more treble, veils removed etc.
My main criteria for a digital front end are.
1. Which sounds more real?
2. Which is more relaxing to listen to?
3. Is the soundstage mirrored by separation of various instruments and voices?
4. Does the system convey emotion?
5. Is it value for money?Exactly how I think
Great strategy, mine too.
What cabling are you using?
Cheers. I will feed them all through the SW1X DAC III, so nothing will go unobserved. Over the years I have moved away from the classic observation of more bass, more treble, veils removed etc.
My main criteria for a digital front end are.
1. Which sounds more real?
2. Which is more relaxing to listen to?
3. Is the soundstage mirrored by separation of various instruments and voices?
4. Does the system convey emotion?
5. Is it value for money?
These days I keep it even simpler-
If I'm listening to music a lot then it's good. If I'm not then it isn't.
AJSki2fly
23-07-2021, 12:44
Cheers. I will feed them all through the SW1X DAC III, so nothing will go unobserved. Over the years I have moved away from the classic observation of more bass, more treble, veils removed etc.
My main criteria for a digital front end are.
1. Which sounds more real?
2. Which is more relaxing to listen to?
3. Is the soundstage mirrored by separation of various instruments and voices?
4. Does the system convey emotion?
5. Is it value for money?
Yep, that’s a good way to think about it, if it sounds good and enjoyable then it’s a good one.
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That a Wireworld digi cable Roy?
No name on it, bought off our old friend Jerry I recall (wonder how he's getting on?).
Thanks Roy,
Think the Jerrry fella's still box-swappin' away elsewhere.
These days I keep it even simpler-
If I'm listening to music a lot then it's good. If I'm not then it isn't.
Exactly. If I am easily distracted by reading or switch the system off to do another job, thats not good.
Great strategy, mine too.
What cabling are you using?
I'm using SW1X silver cabling throughout. That's another way to expose any digital nasties - many people just think silver is bright.
The Black Adder
24-07-2021, 07:25
Does any of these transports output USB?
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Does any of these transports output USB?
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I personally have not seen a Hi Fi transport that outputs USB other than those that are computer base such as the Raspberry Pi and SW1X Universal Music Server. You are then faced with getting a USB to spdiff converter which is yet another area where you can spend from about £50 to several thousand pounds
The Black Adder
24-07-2021, 08:46
Ah,okay...Hmm... I was kind of under the impression that USB out was becoming more widely used due to more USB DAC's.
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Only some little portable DACs only have a USB input, almost all others have sp/dif and USB inputs.
usb is usualy for pc's etc i think
It's not the best interface anyway, nothing really missed.
I2s or BNC would be my ideal choice.
Takes a lot to get USB 'right' imo, Recklockers, de-jitter gizmos (with linear PSUs) and the like.
Proper Ballache.
Apparently 12s has its own issues and very difficult to get right commercially. Needs very short runs of 'cabling' 1-2cm and there are increased compatibility issues which would be almost intolerable for commercial products. Therefore has niche DIY application.
The Black Adder
24-07-2021, 14:01
QUOTE=Gazjam;1282970]It's not the best interface anyway, nothing really missed.
I2s or BNC would be my ideal choice.
Takes a lot to get USB 'right' imo, Recklockers, de-jitter gizmos (with linear PSUs) and the like.
Proper Ballache.[/QUOTE]
Apparently 12s has its own issues and very difficult to get right commercially. Needs very short runs of 'cabling' 1-2cm and there are increased compatibility issues which would be almost intolerable for commercial products. Therefore has niche DIY application.I must admit, my Revolution DAC with Usbridge gets it right. Sounds amazing.
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Apparently 12s has its own issues and very difficult to get right commercially. Needs very short runs of 'cabling' 1-2cm and there are increased compatibility issues which would be almost intolerable for commercial products. Therefore has niche DIY application.
Naa...
From owning equipment that runs it hence personal experience, its fine. :)
Your point is solid though, I wouldn't run a 10m HDMI i2s connection obviously, but under a metre and you're gold.
More and more commercial manufacturers are implementing it now, PS Audio were one of the first.
As always, with everything in this hifi game..."it depends"
Nowt wrong with USB done well, just sayin' just sometimes can take a while to get there.
Naa...
From owning equipment that runs it hence personal experience, its fine. :)
Your point is solid though, I wouldn't run a 10m HDMI i2s connection obviously, but under a metre and your gold.
More and more commercial manufacturers are implementing it now, PS Audio were one of the first.
As always, with everything in this hifi game..."it depends"
Nowt wrong with USB done well, just sayin' just sometimes can take a while to get there.
Thanks Gary
This 12s is a new world to me, can you explain how you configure it. Do you need a dedicated CD player with 12s output and a dedicated DAC with 12s input?
Thanks Gary
This 12s is a new world to me, can you explain how you configure it. Do you need a dedicated CD player with 12s output and a dedicated DAC with 12s input?
Yes, but since there's no established standard two devices equipped with it may still not be compatible.
S/pdif is fine, i2S is just another solution for a non-existent problem. It gives the marketing department a USP to latch onto though.
Sounds better too :D
SPDIF is indeed fine, worth getting a good cable in there though, as it's NOT just 1s and 0s.
Light Capture
30-07-2021, 01:31
The American company Schiit Audio will be releasing a CD transport soon. It is supposed to be priced at $1299 USD. Knowing their product's value for the money spent this could be a product worth waiting for. And they make their products for international voltages too.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/schiit-cd-transport-on-the-way-soon
https://www.reddit.com/r/Schiit/comments/kr6bcf/schiit_cd_transport/
It's not listed on their website yet:
https://www.schiit.com/products
hifinutt
01-08-2021, 14:09
thanks mike
that will be worth looking at . although their stuff has a lot of shortages
Light Capture
02-08-2021, 11:31
Phil, I've always had good fortune w/ Schiits and own their Mani phono stage and Modi3 DAC. I'm waiting for their transport.
(BTW, I like the scripture in your signature line. It's a good one to practice.)
Then there’s the Audio Analogue AA drive using a Teac transport about £1750 reviewed recently in Hifi +
nonuffin
07-08-2021, 19:07
I have watched the review videos and of course read all the testimonials from happy owners of the Audiolab transport on this noble forum, so have purchased one to see what the fuss was about.
At the moment I am using a Shanling CDT100 player and to be truthful it sounds dreadful on both valve and solid state analogue outputs, so I bought a Stello Signature DAC as an experiment and that sounded infinitely better than the other two outputs so digital was the way to go it seems.
Have hankered for a BMC UltraDAC for a long time, so I bought one recently and that was a major lift up in sound quality again. Very pleased indeed with this bit of kit, it really should be on everyone's audition list.
Of course there was a slight nagging doubt about the Shanling even as just a transport, hence the purchase of the Audiolab, which arrived this morning. I can honestly say the Shanling wipes the floor with the Audiolab; bass is hugely better, so too are details and dynamics and the sounstage has more width, depth and height, it just defines how music should sound, alive and vital.
Light Capture
08-08-2021, 01:05
Then there’s the Audio Analogue AA drive using a Teac transport about £1750 reviewed recently in Hifi +
It looks very nice.
Six Moons also reviewed it:
http://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/audioanalogue/
If budget was upped a bit, the Jay's Audio Mk3 would be my choice.
https://www.jays-audio.com/product-page/cdt2-mk3
https://avcorp.pl/eng_pl_JAYS-AUDIO-CDT2-MK3-CD-Transport-Black-4672_1.jpg
https://avcorp.pl/eng_pl_JAYS-AUDIO-CDT2-MK3-CD-Transport-Black-4672_2.jpg
https://avcorp.pl/eng_pl_JAYS-AUDIO-CDT2-MK3-CD-Transport-Black-4672_11.jpg
https://avcorp.pl/eng_pl_JAYS-AUDIO-CDT2-MK3-CD-Transport-Black-4672_3.jpg
two grand and change though. It looks tidy enough but I don't think a CD transport needs to cost that much to be optimal.
If it had an orange display instead of yacky blue maybe I would think about it.
I'm serious! It was the deciding factor in buying both my DACs.
I do wonder if those transformers with ‘high quality components’ emblazoned over the covers are indeed high quality or just marketing bull*
walpurgis
09-08-2021, 07:14
I do wonder if those transformers with ‘high quality components’ emblazoned over the covers are indeed high quality or just marketing bull*
Bull is what it is. It's meaningless.
Stranraer
09-08-2021, 12:03
I'm serious! It was the deciding factor in buying both my DACs.
Blimey, I don't remember you mentioning that when you made your recommendation. Luckily it does sound good
Blimey, I don't remember you mentioning that when you made your recommendation. Luckily it does sound good
Reminds me I was going to do a write-up of the Topping E30.
wee tee cee
02-10-2021, 10:30
Bought the Audiolab 6000cdt.
Had a good listen to it last night, it has brought some of my CDs up a notch or two.
Pulled some details out of albums that I hadnt heard before.
Proper bit of hifi at reasonable money....highly reccomended.
It's 'propa' kit Tony,
Love mine.
If you want to take enjoying your CDs a few steps further, it's worth spending 40 Galactic Groats on one of these for it.
https://www.analogueseduction.net/fuses/hi-fi-tuning-supreme-fuses-5-x-20mm-t.html
Noticable improvement, brings more of what the 6000cdt can do to the table.
What digital cable are you using with yours?
Forgot to say,
Takes a couple of weeks to warm up, you ain't heard what it can do quite yet.
wee tee cee
03-10-2021, 07:04
I suspected it would change with a few hours on it.
Prefer it with optical as opposed to co ax.
wee tee cee
03-10-2021, 07:12
I presume that fuse is internal...do i need to open the bonnet to install it?
I will have a play with a better than standard power cord and fuse.
Played around with a few interconnects yesterday, the Audiolab gave a very accurate presentation of each cable.
Im delighted with it.
No,
Fuse carrier is on the back of the box Tony,
At the IEC socket.
Wee slot there,
pop a screwdriver in and it pops right out.
wee tee cee
03-10-2021, 11:38
At 40 spondooliks it would be rude not to!!!
wee tee cee
03-10-2021, 11:42
What rating do I need?
Tony,
Slow-blow 5 x 20mm T - 630mA
got mine here:
https://www.analogueseduction.net/fuses/hi-fi-tuning-supreme-fuses-5-x-20mm-t.html
You want the Sliver one from that page, not the Copper one. :thumbsup:
The transport lets you hear the differences with better digital and power cables,
good fun to have a play with those.
Isolation feet improve it too.
wee tee cee
04-10-2021, 06:22
Thanks Gary.
Finding myself pulling cables out my main rig to plumb them into the audiolab system.
I have not messed about with stuff for ages...really enjoying the hobby again.
hifinutt
04-10-2021, 11:06
I am using a isotek syncro dc blocker on my cd players at the moment . hope to continue testing but it does seem to improve the sound . more sparkle and bite
wee tee cee
04-10-2021, 11:37
Phil,
My next step will be trying the airlink BMU, see if that brings further improvement.
Had a look at the Isotek, nice bit of kit...
Majik. :thumbsup:
Welcome back!
Thanks Gary.
Finding myself pulling cables out my main rig to plumb them into the audiolab system.
I have not messed about with stuff for ages...really enjoying the hobby again.
AJSki2fly
04-10-2021, 16:25
Phil,
My next step will be trying the airlink BMU, see if that brings further improvement.
Had a look at the Isotek, nice bit of kit...
Before you go spending hundreds on isolation feet, I would try some of these first, you might be surprise at just how good they can be. Under the CD player amp and speakers. You need to buy the appropriate size for the weight of each piece of equipment. If they work for you you can use you hard earn cash on some music, or other upgrades.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302897899590?hash=item46861f2846:g:uz0AAOSwbF1bqlt Y
alternatively these are good just a bit more
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hudson-Hi-Fi-Silicone-Isolation-Feet/dp/B095B2XJDD/ref=sr_1_22?dchild=1&keywords=Hudson+isolation&qid=1633364582&qsid=260-3971527-4778066&sr=8-22&sres=B08GNV4BV1%2CB08NDVPH7N%2CB08KDM9QY3%2CB00ZAD BDYE%2CB0727L3PC3%2CB08YDYC3ZV%2CB08SV15TYH%2CB08V RRJZKN%2CB08FBRWSV5%2CB08HT2H6ZM%2CB08PBLJQJJ%2C13 97992549%2CB00856PCC2%2CB07F9Q29MB%2CB00N3ZORRG%2C B08YYQMS4B%2CB08SKQL9WJ%2CB08DCF3F7P%2CB08CY25JWZ% 2CB07SCP8QCS
I use the standard sorbothane spheres and have used the hudsons on speaker on my system and they both work very well IMHO, just need to find some big enough to support my 35kg Krell amp.
You don't need to spend a lot footers that work, spot on Adrian.
These are great.
https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/tenderfoot?variant=12643255353399
wee tee cee
05-10-2021, 14:32
Getting a bit over excited the last couple of days....
Croft power amp now needing a couple of fuses.
Eddies, one speaker now resonating in the bass drivers in the right speaker.
Was meant to be a lash up second system-had to plumb the 57s in eventually...
Cant leave shit alone!!!
hifinutt
15-10-2021, 22:01
I am using a isotek syncro dc blocker on my cd players at the moment . hope to continue testing but it does seem to improve the sound . more sparkle and bite
Can't make my mind up about it's effect on the marantz 6007 , might be more effective on amps I think. I just love the smoothness of the tray on the 6007 ..for 400 quid it's a rather nice unit. Easy to read the display and quiet as a mouse . Only used as a transport though
wee tee cee
16-10-2021, 16:39
bought a 6000a ....the dac suits the transport.
as an amp better than i could have thought.
audiolab on a bit of a run.
hpa really good on 700s
reckon this run of kit vfm is outstanding....
Sweet.
Heard the amps a corker, not heard it myself.
The Transports a future classic imo.
wee tee cee
19-10-2021, 14:30
Getting some hours on both.
Have shifted the BMU and various wires to the Audiolab system.
Constantly suprised just how good the system sounds.
Will maybe do a wee 6000a/cdp review.
Seriously thinking about getting a couple of the mono blocks....
hifinutt
19-10-2021, 15:32
yes surprised they are not more popular but one or two threads like this
https://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/audiolab-8200mb-my-nightmare.101251/
https://www.avforums.com/threads/audiolab-8200mb-failures.2020235/
https://www.avforums.com/threads/help-please-faulty-8200mb-or-8000a-pre-out.1409467/
wee tee cee
20-10-2021, 07:22
Interesting Phil.
I was looking at the 8300mb or the 8300xt, hoping the new designs dont have similar issues.
hifinutt
20-10-2021, 13:27
well that remains to be seen . perhaps put a separate thread on AOS and see the latest results
with so many competitors i would be cautious
hifinutt
05-11-2021, 14:05
just weighing up a Bel canto cd2 . will do a new thread at some time . Its extremely good . very versatile in that in case be used as a volume control straight into power amps . currently using as a transport with just the standard wall mart psu . once i get acclimatised i will try different psu
Yes, but since there's no established standard two devices equipped with it may still not be compatible.
S/pdif is fine, i2S is just another solution for a non-existent problem. It gives the marketing department a USP to latch onto though.
Martin that is just not the case.
i2s is a long established standard, just not one originally meant for box to box connection, so no pin out or socketry is defined for this.
As far as I'm aware, most if not all devices use i2S as the native internal audio bus, whether it be a PC, CD player etc.
The i2s is converted to USB, SPDIF for export etc sent to the next box then converted back to i2s internally.
So the principle of removing the repackaging at both ends is a good one.
Historically, it only had a short transmission capability as that's all it was designed for, an internal bus for audio only.
These days the distance is easily extended by using a simple line driver, which is an internal item on the devices output.
The main issue is the lack of an interconnect standard, but to be honest in most cases, if you know the pin outs of the two different devices, you can convert between them.
The PS Audio pin out using an HDMI cable has been adopted by many, mainly because they published the circuit and said it was free to all to use. It uses a National Semiconductors DS90LV031ATM/NOPB line driver to extend distance to Metres rather than cm.
As you can probably tell, I looked into the subject at great length and have had several i2s capable devices.
Like most things, it boils down to implementation and I've personally not had a great deal of success with i2s.
My Nuprime CDT into a PS Audio Stellar DAC sounded better through SPDIF or AES than i2s for instance. These devices are pin compatible so just an HDMI lead is required between the two and was a major factor in me buying the Nuprime. Doh!
The Raspberry Pi i2s output has timing issues and needs re-clocking for high end use, as in the ALLO i2s re-clocking hat.
So yes there are issues, but fundamentally it makes sense to remove additional processes from the audio chain, so it's not just marketing spiel.
Good post Ken.
Strong agree.
wee tee cee
29-11-2021, 15:18
Getting a few hours on the transport and 6000a amp./
Really impressed sonically....proper hi fi....
hifinutt
29-11-2021, 21:05
Great , interesting how you get on .I think the 6000 would be better than the 6007 marantz I have. Which is good but I think the 6000cdt pips it from what I have heard so far
hifinutt
17-10-2023, 16:44
had a look at this yesterday , what a gorgeous pice of kit !!!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53265645308_cf09128f40_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2p9UmAY)AA transport (https://flic.kr/p/2p9UmAY) by , on Flickr
audio analogue aa cd drive . good points lovely smooth tray , quieter than a mouse in operation , aes out and decent rca
not so good points buttons under front is a bit quirky
beautiful for 2 k , feels heavy and well made
button looks awkward under the extended tray. AA make nice amps
had a look at this yesterday , what a gorgeous pice of kit !!!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53265645308_cf09128f40_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2p9UmAY)AA transport (https://flic.kr/p/2p9UmAY) by , on Flickr
audio analogue aa cd drive . good points lovely smooth tray , quieter than a mouse in operation , aes out and decent rca
not so good points buttons under front is a bit quirky
beautiful for 2 k , feels heavy and well made
But did you hear it?
hifinutt
17-10-2023, 18:15
the buttons you could get used to i think and the screen was visible from a few feet away . just would like to know where in the track it was , i listen to tracks lasting 30 mins and umpteen poeple ring me and i need to know where it stopped ...oh and i am not leaving it on pause for 30 mins :)
the remote was heavy and well made altho no eject button on remote
really funky seeing the transport lift up in the window . I only found the shop on off chance so sadly didnt hear it but no doubt if it sounds as good as it looks it will be good . I really liked the quality of the rca and aes outputs is a bonus
i did listen for drive noise as i also did with the cdt9000 in the shop [ richer sounds ] and both were deadly silent . of course there is 1000 pounds between the 2 but the AA looks the business
Not keen on the look of it, and having the controls underneath is the worst idea ever.
hifinutt
18-10-2023, 11:26
its looks superb in the flesh , i agree the controls are slightly quirky but more than makes up for in quality finish . if it had more info in display screen i would be very tempted . not much to match it . nearest equivalent is about 2.5k more !!! tray loading cd player with aes
its looks superb in the flesh , i agree the controls are slightly quirky but more than makes up for in quality finish . if it had more info in display screen i would be very tempted . not much to match it . nearest equivalent is about 2.5k more !!! tray loading cd player with aes
The looks are a personal thing, but what where they thinking putting the controls underneath? I never use the remote so that matters to me. The remote for my TEAC is still in the wrapping.
Pigmy Pony
18-10-2023, 17:58
The looks are a personal thing, but what where they thinking putting the controls underneath? I never use the remote so that matters to me. The remote for my TEAC is still in the wrapping.
The remote for my Marantz is in a drawer somewhere, I'll dig it out if I ever come to sell the player.
My excuse is that I need the exercise, and we do need to set a good example for our children. I fear that if we're not careful we will be rearing the first generation of fat streamers and giant gluteus gamers.
The remote for my Marantz is in a drawer somewhere, I'll dig it out if I ever come to sell the player.
My excuse is that I need the exercise, and we do need to set a good example for our children. I fear that if we're not careful we will be rearing the first generation of fat streamers and giant gluteus gamers.
They will all end up looking like Jabba the Hutt - operating any remote or computer keyboard with a 'prehensile' tongue! :eek:
Pigmy Pony
18-10-2023, 20:47
They will all end up looking like Jabba the Hutt - operating any remote or computer keyboard with a 'prehensile' tongue! :eek:
The very thought almost put me off my supper. Almost.
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