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Opti-cal
21-06-2021, 08:10
Hi all, I've got a dead AC supply transformer in my Quad ESL 63.

If anyone has one or knows where to get hold of one I would be very grateful.

Also if anyone has any technical specs on the transformer, that would be very helpful too.

Cheers

Chris

https://i.ibb.co/p2772Tf/Quad63base.jpg (https://ibb.co/WnhhnXk)

Firebottle
21-06-2021, 09:29
Also if anyone has any technical specs on the transformer, that would be very helpful too.

You could measure the working one, carefully!

spendorman
21-06-2021, 09:40
Have you tried Quad for one? I expect they would be helpful.

Opti-cal
21-06-2021, 09:50
Have you tried Quad for one? I expect they would be helpful.

Yup, all the feelers went out to the usual suspects, Quad, One Thing etc . . . .

spendorman
21-06-2021, 09:58
Yup, all the feelers went out to the usual suspects, Quad, One Thing etc . . . .

So Quad couldn't help? I find that strange.

Opti-cal
21-06-2021, 10:05
So Quad couldn't help? I find that strange.

Haven't got back to me yet as of 8:00am this morning so more hedging my bets to get a solution as soon as possible.

Although, to say I've had a chequered past with Quad service division, would be a gross understatement. All water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned now though so hopefully they can help me out this time.

Cheers

spendorman
21-06-2021, 10:08
Haven't got back to me yet as of 8:00am this morning so more hedging my bets to get a solution as soon as possible.

Although, to say I've had a chequered past with Quad service division, would be a gross understatement. All water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned now though so hopefully they can help me out this time.

Cheers

I think they will.

Just looking at the circuit of the 63, there appears to be a resistor in series with the primary, might be worth checking that this is not open circuit. Will post a diagram.

spendorman
21-06-2021, 10:11
63 diagram

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261443413_a052b48310_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m6NicT)63schemLate (https://flic.kr/p/2m6NicT) by A60man (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41679262@N02/), on Flickr

Opti-cal
21-06-2021, 10:13
63 diagram

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51261443413_a052b48310_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m6NicT)63schemLate (https://flic.kr/p/2m6NicT) by A60man (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41679262@N02/), on Flickr

Thanks Alex, much appreciated.

I think myself and Alan Firebottle actually happened across the same diagram on Saturday (after Alan had diagnosed the issue to be the transformer itself). I will certainly check the possibility of this.

Nice one.

spendorman
21-06-2021, 10:15
Sorry, I was probably looking at the wrong transformer.

spendorman
21-06-2021, 10:39
On my PC I found another diag that gives part numbers too.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51260552547_6f0da3272b_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2m6HJo8)esl63_sch2 (https://flic.kr/p/2m6HJo8) by A60man (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41679262@N02/), on Flickr

Perhaps Sowter may be able to help.

https://www.sowter.co.uk/

Opti-cal
21-06-2021, 11:28
Thanks Alex,

One Thing have come back to me first.

Details are:

Primary = 2 x 115v

Secondary = 1 x 14v

1 x 640v


Ideally I hope I can get a direct replacement but if not at least I now know the specs if I need to get one made. I'm hoping they may be able to source one for me.

I will have a look at Sowter.

Thanks again.

Opti-cal
22-06-2021, 08:52
I think they will.

Just looking at the circuit of the 63, there appears to be a resistor in series with the primary, might be worth checking that this is not open circuit. Will post a diagram.

Well looks like you were right Alex,

reply from Quad with availability and the price was right too.

Happy so far, now just to receive it and solder the darned thing in.

Cheers

spendorman
22-06-2021, 09:11
Great that Quad came through.

I'm a bit of a Quad fan. Two pairs of ESL 57's, pair of ESL63's, Quad II's/22/ FM1 with quad decoder, four Quad 303's, Quad 405-2. 33 and FM3, FM4, 44.

One of my 63's is suffering from loose stator, not sure what I'll do.

Opti-cal
22-06-2021, 09:25
Great that Quad came through.

I'm a bit of a Quad fan. Two pairs of ESL 57's, pair of ESL63's, Quad II's/22/ FM1 with quad decoder, four Quad 303's, Quad 405-2. 33 and FM3, FM4.

One of my 63's is suffering from loose stator, not sure what I'll do.

Shell out for repair and wait a couple of months . . . . is there anything else for it . . . haha.

One of my stators 'rattles' but only at prolonged low frequencies (35-50Hz ish). If I'm listening for it I can hear it on certain material but I doubt anyone else could if they didn't know it was there. Really annoying but all part of the Quad membership costs!

Heard a pair of 57's at their best again recently and I need a fully working pair back in my life. It's not just a 'want' type of thing it's firmly in the 'need' category.

Annoyingly I have a pair but one has low output, I also have a fully refurbished one (long story) but it's output is just a little higher than the 'working' one of the non refurbished pair.

Once I've sorted these 63's I'll get on with sorting the 57's. If I have a pair of each working satisfactorily I can actually die a happy man.

spendorman
22-06-2021, 09:35
"Die a happy man" lol!

Many years ago I worked on my 57's, some new treble units, a new HT transformer, some new capacitors and resistors, but I'm a bit hesitant to pull a 63 apart.

Opti-cal
22-06-2021, 09:47
"Die a happy man" lol!

Many years ago I worked on my 57's, some new treble units, a new HT transformer, some new capacitors and resistors, but I'm a bit hesitant to pull a 63 apart.

I only say that because I know it's never going to happen . . . .

A few years ago I had a fully rebuilt 'perfect' pair of 57's and a decent working pair of 63's. Unfortunately I needed some cash for house repairs and both pairs went. At the time it hadn't actually dawned on me what a nightmare it could (and would) be to get back there.

Oh well good things come to those who wait . . . .

Yes I wouldn't fancy my chances on anything more than doing this transformer 'swap' on the 63's . . . the delay lines and stator placement scares me . . . .

spendorman
22-06-2021, 10:03
Next month I'm planning of winning the big one on the Premium Bonds, then I'll get my 63's serviced!

jaguarxjr
25-06-2021, 16:25
Hi there,

Unfortunately I didn't see your requirement sooner as I have most parts available ( have had several pairs and bought some for spares ) & certainly mains transformers.

If you need and help on changing it out please don't hesitate - quite unusual for these to go on a 63.

Rgds,

Ray