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Bonky
19-05-2021, 16:09
As above. I'm interested in a Chinese valve amp (about £662 plus the substantial p&p of £264). Any ideas as to how much extra I would need to pay in UK taxes and Duties?

Many thanks.

Edit; I went to : https://www.shippo.co.uk/faqs/what-duties-and-taxes-will-i-have-to-pay/

£407 for Vat and Duties. This sounds excessive. Does anyone know?

struth
19-05-2021, 16:46
duty of 3.5% then a 20% vat on that subtotal... shipping is included in the duty payment subtotal.. afaik

Macca
19-05-2021, 16:50
Combined cost of freight and amp is a grand so about £200 in VAT

From memory tariff on hi-fi is 20% so another £130. Broker fee about £12

Macca
19-05-2021, 16:51
duty of 3.5% then a 20% vat on that subtotal... shipping is included in the duty payment subtotal.. afaik

Is duty on hifi really only 3.5% ?

£407 seems way too much then.

struth
19-05-2021, 16:53
https://www.simplyduty.com/calculate-uk-import-duty-taxes/

Lawrence001
19-05-2021, 20:07
https://www.simplyduty.com/calculate-uk-import-duty-taxes/I wouldn't trust that as it says we're still in the EU.

mikeyb
19-05-2021, 21:05
Explained here...

https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/tax-and-duty

Bonky
20-05-2021, 10:50
Thanks everyone. Revised estimate is now £224 taxes and duties on an amp (£662) and P+P (£264). That's more like it - still expensive though.

The amp in question is the Willsenton R8 (rave reviews everywhere!). Torn between the R8 and the Exposure 2510 (the latter being more expensive but better warranty and is 'mostly' British).

hifi_dave
20-05-2021, 16:32
Personally I'd go for something British, even if s/h. When that Chinese amp goes bang, who will fix it ?

anubisgrau
21-05-2021, 08:59
may i hijack the thread to ask the same question for US imports?

struth
21-05-2021, 09:08
think it will be same... https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/tax-and-duty

Gazjam
21-05-2021, 11:47
Thanks Boris...

you 'effin Twit. :rolleyes:

Macca
21-05-2021, 12:46
There's always been duty on shipments from the USA and China because there has never been a trade deal with them. So nothing's changed.

Bonky
21-05-2021, 13:01
It makes one wonder if, in, say, the case of valve amps, it's cheaper in the long-run to buy the less-expensive option from China and then replace the valves/tubes in the UK? (Rather than opt for the more expensive valves in the amp and have them shipped to the UK).

I'm aware that 'foreign-made' valves (ie most of them) would still attract the 3.5% tariff and VAT, but economies of scale etc...

Bonky
21-05-2021, 13:32
Personally I'd go for something British, even if s/h. When that Chinese amp goes bang, who will fix it ?

Very true, but valve amps are relatively simple, using standard components I think - EXCEPT, for the transformers. Now if they went supernova then that would be problem !

Thanks.

anubisgrau
22-05-2021, 20:20
Very true, but valve amps are relatively simple, using standard components I think - EXCEPT, for the transformers. Now if they went supernova then that would be problem !


why? there's so many decent makers of transformers around - from power to output ones...

Bonky
22-05-2021, 22:19
Such as ...? With exactly the same specs?

Good news: From the ' a British audiophile' site;
For those of you in the U.K. Lee at China Hifi has just informed me that he has appointed a partner to deal with warranty claims in the U.K.
Snow Audio Repairs
Fareham
Hampshire
PO16 0SW
UK


why? there's so many decent makers of transformers around - from power to output ones...

Apologies btw, the title should read "Customs" and not "Custom's"

Larrycat
14-06-2021, 21:51
Hi Richard,
I too am considering the Willsenton R8 and have been in contact with Yong Lee at Chi Hi-Fi. Have you pressed the buy button yet?

Bonky
14-06-2021, 22:06
Hi Richard,
I too am considering the Willsenton R8 and have been in contact with Yong Lee at Chi Hi-Fi. Have you pressed the buy button yet?

Hi Paul, no, not yet. I'm very temped but I wish to home audition the new Exposure 2510 first. I'm pleased with my WD Kel84 valve amp at present - I replaced the two 'pre-amp' valves and to my ears, sounds better.

Also, Yong Lee's reply to my enquiry had a spreadsheet that just wouldn't open.

Jason P
13-07-2021, 13:02
I'd be interested in this one too - I fancy a Willsenton and they look very nicely made (all point-to-point with decent components) so I'm far less concerned about reliability issues - they also do a proper 240v version. Let us know how you get on!

Floyddroid
21-07-2021, 05:03
Have you thought about Prima Luna? Just a thought.

Lawrence001
22-07-2021, 19:30
I saw a brand new Willsenton on eBay a few weeks ago, the seller said his wife had hit the roof when it arrived and he had to move it on straight away. It disappeared quick but don't think it was marked as sold. Maybe worth a look.