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Just about to start my next build, which is a MM/MC valve based phono stage, which is the brainchild of Firebottle and Bigman.
It uses an ECC83 (or can be switched to use a Russian equivalent) and two PCC88s.
I have finished shopping for the bits today, so I am just waiting for them to arrive from various parts around the world.
I will update this thread with progress as I go along.
SERIOUS bit of kit this.
You’re Gona love it
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I have to agree with Karl. I'm so glad I built one of these.
So far, I am missing the case, and the 6M8 1% resistors.
Apart from that, I spent a few hours populating the board today.
Oliver kindly sent me some matched resistors and capacitors for the RIAA.
I am looking forward to finishing this, but need to be patient.
Awesome , I was going to say make sure you take care to ultra match everything as it makes a real difference.
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Firebottle
29-04-2021, 06:16
The 6M8 don't need to be that accurate or matched as they are only used for biasing.
Thanks Alan.
I'll just take a random pair out of the bag. They should be here on Friday, so I am looking at finishing this to a point I can put it in a case over the weekend.
The BB3 PCB is now fully populated, and powers up nicely, with the valve glow on display.
I have modified a soft start in line with the recommendations, and prepared the 3 pairs of RCA sockets ready to fit in the case.
I just need the case....
It is in France now, but not yet at my house.
I am hoping I can finish this by the end of the weekend.
I’ll take some when I get the chance.
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Populated PCB
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Checking MM mode
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Mock up
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Rear panel fully populated
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A sneak peak of the semi-finished look
Thanks for posting pictures Kevin it looks to be coming along nicely.
No problem.
I hope to have it finished pretty soon. I have a day off on Monday, so if the weather is as good as it is now, and there are not too many interruptions, I may get it finished then.
I do need to remove the BB3 PCB to solder in my “pure silver” occ signal wires, as all the important connections will be direct to the board. I think it only needs a few more hours, and then it will be done.
The missing bits turned up today, so I have completed the build.
All signal wiring is Neotech UP-OCC silver cable. Power cable is Neotech UP-OCC copper.
All RCA sockets are pure copper, gold plated. I am not sure I would recommend them though, as they need a lot of heat to solder the cable on.
This thing sounds awesome. It is going to need a fair few hours for it to settle in.
To initially power it up, I used a Reflektor 6N2P and some National PCC88 valves, so there is more to come from a change to better valves.
An update. As the weather was not great, I spent a lot of time listening to vinyl at the weekend.
I really enjoyed the phonostage in my Firebottle Kin, but the BB Mk.III (also designed by Mr Firebottle) shows that his designs have evilved, and there is a clear and obvious improvement.
I know that this next bit is a bit of a Cliché, but I was hearing detail I was not aware of before. There is a great 3D image, plenty if space around the instruments and good timbre and clarity.
I am well chuffed with it. If you get a chance to listen to one, be careful, as you may want one afterwards....
I have been browsing various sites recently, look for some “genuine” Telefunken PCC88 valves before prices got too silly.
I was shocked to see the prices, so I decided to wait until I got home to check the stock.
I am glad I did, as there are two sat in my spare valve box.
With the expected valve lifetime, I think I have enough quality valves to keep the BB3 running to see me out.
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