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Floyddroid
17-04-2021, 16:16
Has anyone managed to hear a pair of these new designs from Dali yet?

brian2957
17-04-2021, 16:19
Big Dali fan here. I use the Oberon 1 in my system and absolutely love them. I will be keeping my eye on this thread Steve :)

southall-1998_mk2
18-04-2021, 20:44
Big Dali fan here. I use the Oberon 1 in my system and absolutely love them. I will be keeping my eye on this thread Steve :)


Decent speakers the Oberon 1.

What amp do you use to drive them? I imagine 40-50w is enough for small-medium rooms.

S.

brian2957
18-04-2021, 21:13
Hi Shane, I use a Roksan Kandy KA1 ( 110 W ).

Floyddroid
19-04-2021, 18:35
Very frustrating as Dali dealers are few and far between especially he in the North East. There seems to be little hurry in getting the nines in stock. Even more frustrating is the auditioning concept. It isn't pandemic friendly.
I am getting disappointed in reading review after review of such floor standers to be informed by the writer that integrating a sub wouldn't go a miss. Why? A well designed floor stander shouldn't need an active sub. Woja thing gang?

Macca
20-04-2021, 06:07
Dali 9 are specced at-3dB at 35Hz, you won't need a sub for most music. Maybe for electronic, organ music or home theatre if you really want to max out.

They look pretty good - on paper anyway.

brian2957
20-04-2021, 07:28
Richer Sounds have the Oberon 7 in stock. I don't think it will be too long before they have the Oberon 9 for sale.

Pieoftheday
20-04-2021, 18:02
Peter Tyson , Newcastle

Floyddroid
24-04-2021, 15:26
Peter Tyson , Newcastle

Newcastle? It's nearly Scotland from where i live. I believe it is on the road North out of Newcastle?

Floyddroid
24-04-2021, 15:32
I posted a thread on the Wam to hear if anyone had heard or indeed owned a pair of the Wilmslow Audio WA RTL3 which are based on the original TDL design. They were greeted with a fair bit of negativity from one Wammer. The comments were based on the original design and not Wilmslow audio's take on them. Has anyone here heard the Wilmslow version? Here are a couple of pics. They work out over a grand built.
https://i.imgur.com/iPi3dyg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J1ckuDy.jpg

Pieoftheday
24-04-2021, 15:33
I don't know,website says Newcastle and workington :)

Lawrence001
01-05-2021, 19:33
I posted a thread on the Wam to hear if anyone had heard or indeed owned a pair of the Wilmslow Audio WA RTL3 which are based on the original TDL design. They were greeted with a fair bit of negativity from one Wammer. The comments were based on the original design and not Wilmslow audio's take on them. Has anyone here heard the Wilmslow version? Here are a couple of pics. They work out over a grand built.
https://i.imgur.com/iPi3dyg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J1ckuDy.jpgI think the TDL RTLs were let down by the cheaper drivers, and I'm not sure the cabinet was as good as their Studio range either, that's where the quality was. If these are upgraded to the level of the Studio range them I think they'll be quite nice.

I'm not sure how the "Reflex Transmission Line" concept works though. It sounds like an attempt to find a hybrid to make the cabinet easier/cheaper to build if anything, but I'd like to know more.

Macca
02-05-2021, 08:50
It was just a fancy name for a port.

The RTL series did not have anything in common with the Studio series. But as budget speakers they were pretty good. I had a dem of the RTL2 and 3 many years ago when they were still current products.

You've had much better speakers in the past, Steve. Like those Ruark Crusaders. The RTLs don't come close to those.

walpurgis
02-05-2021, 09:06
Maybe it's a reflex box with an extended port equating to something like a 1/16 or 1/8 wavelength transmission line, but one principle relies on resonance phase inversion, the other would use the comparatively small amount of in phase signal at the exit of the line. I think IMF had a similar description with their ALS40 and ALS30 designs, but those terminated the line into an active driver. The B&W DM2 was an 1/8 wavelength line too, worked fine.

Macca
02-05-2021, 10:20
Maybe it's a reflex box with an extended port equating to something like a 1/16 or 1/8 wavelength transmission line, but one principle relies on resonance phase inversion, the other would use the comparatively small amount of in phase signal at the exit of the line. I think IMF had a similar description with their ALS40 and ALS30 designs, but those terminated the line into an active driver. The B&W DM2 was an 1/8 wavelength line too, worked fine.

Seems what they do is put a right-angled shelf inside at the back of the box, with a gap/slot between the vertical portion and the back wall of the cab and a gap between the horizontal portion and the bottom of the cab

So the back wave from the driver goes down the slot, across the bottom of the box and out through the front ports at the base of the speaker. The width of the slot determines the frequency of the bass tuning.

So it isn't a conventional reflex pipe but it's not a transmission line either.

http://www.tdl-loudspeakers.co.uk/reviews.htm

Macca
02-05-2021, 10:36
here's a drawing as my description not very clear:

https://i.ibb.co/mSZwkTQ/Screenshot-2021-05-02-113457.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Lawrence001
02-05-2021, 10:37
Seems what they do is put a right-angled shelf inside at the back of the box, with a gap/slot between the vertical portion and the back wall of the cab and a gap between the horizontal portion and the bottom of the cab

So the back wave from the driver goes down the slot, across the bottom of the box and out through the front ports at the base of the speaker. The width of the slot determines the frequency of the bass tuning.

So it isn't a conventional reflex pipe but it's not a transmission line either.

http://www.tdl-loudspeakers.co.uk/reviews.htmCan't quite picture that any chance of a little diagram? [emoji38]

What Hifi in the links (RTL2 and Bass) describe it as true TL in the box which is very wrong.

Ali Tait
02-05-2021, 10:38
Sounds a bit like a TQWT.

walpurgis
02-05-2021, 11:03
So it isn't a conventional reflex pipe but it's not a transmission line either.

Not that different to the IMF Compact/Super Compact.

struth
02-05-2021, 11:09
Not that different to the IMF Compact/Super Compact.

had a pair of the supers'.. hungry speakers they were

Lawrence001
02-05-2021, 11:35
Sounds a bit like a TQWT.Is it anything like the Castle Howard twin pipe TL (one open one closed ie just an angled plank down the middle right to the bottom with one going out the bottom).