DSD over DoP

[Clive197]

I’m a little confused about DSD over DoP which is as I understand DSD played back with PCM. I wonder what the point is. There are a fair number of experts convinced that DSD sounds much better than PCM but if you have to listen to it in PCM, then you cannot be getting the advantage of the better codec, can you?

[struth]

It should sound just the same as native. It requires a higher rate of pcm capability and a little extra processing

[Clive197]

It should sound just the same as native. It requires a higher rate of pcm capability and a little extra processing

Thanks Grant but that’s the point. You use the word SHOULD sound the same and at the end use A LITTLE EXTRA PROCESSING, both to my mind have negative connotations, hence my confusion.

[Old Cockerney]

This is my first post so be gentle!

I sympathise with you that if DoP meant listening to PCM it would be a waste of time. However I think that you are misconstruing what DoP is.

DoP contains no data which is not DSD. It is a data packing protocol which enables DSD data to be transported using a PCM dedicated interface such as S/Pdif, AES/EBU or USB. You cannot listen to the resulting file without a DAC which supports DSD.

DoP was invented by dCS who also ( as partners with Sony) devised the data packing of DSD in SACD.

For further information see:

https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/support/what-is-dop-dsd-over-pcm/

[Mr. C]

It just a way of converting DSD <> PCM and allowing sample frequencies over 192Khz and alleged bits rates over 24 by using the inferior USB format, but it looks good on any sales brochure and keeps those chaps happy that like to see that 'extra' illuminated symbol that convinces them of superior sound quality.
Cynical moi? :eyebrows:it like proclaiming that MQA is actually worth having :rfl:

You could also suggest that DSD is far superior to LPCM, that debate would be quite amusing

[Clive197]

This is my first post so be gentle!

I sympathise with you that if DoP meant listening to PCM it would be a waste of time. However I think that you are misconstruing what DoP is.

DoP contains no data which is not DSD. It is a data packing protocol which enables DSD data to be transported using a PCM dedicated interface such as S/Pdif, AES/EBU or USB. You cannot listen to the resulting file without a DAC which supports DSD.

DoP was invented by dCS who also ( as partners with Sony) devised the data packing of DSD in SACD.

For further information see:

https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/support/what-is-dop-dsd-over-pcm/

Thank you, just the answer I needed to defuddle my old brain.