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I wanted to buy some stands for my Tannoys for a while. Naturally I measured the the top of the speaker to see what dimension the top plate of the stand should be. I took the plinth off easily so I duly placed my order for the Atacamas and the they arrived in Thursday.
After assembling I took to removing the plinths of the Tannoys. First one - a few screws to remove and away it came - easy so I set about tackling the second one. Out came the screws but the plinth remained firmly attached!
Bugger - It seems that it had been glued AND screwed:doh:
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The top plate of the stand is just slightly too big to fit inside the plinth. I really don't want to hack away at the speaker so it looks as though I've got to get the angle grinder out and do a bit of metal work. I'm now looking online for battery powered angle grinders. Hi Fi eh?
walpurgis
08-03-2021, 11:59
Put a thick board across the bottom of the plinth?
Hmm - it's a thought. I suppose I'd have to put some form of damping inside the void :scratch:
walpurgis
08-03-2021, 12:48
Hmm - it's a thought. I suppose I'd have to put some form of damping inside the void :scratch:
Well it won't hurt.
losepete
10-03-2021, 00:33
Have you tried a hammer?
Just joking - but I do wonder if the glue is a contact adhesive that can be dislodged with a few careful mallet blows to a bit of wood placed against the side of the plinth.
Try a glue solvent and let it seep into the join. You may have to try different solvents (e.g. white vinegar, Ethanol, Iso) and let the solvent gradually seep into the joins (using masking tape etc).
Lawrence001
10-03-2021, 16:09
Have you tried a hammer?
Just joking - but I do wonder if the glue is a contact adhesive that can be dislodged with a few careful mallet blows to a bit of wood placed against the side of the plinth.Best bet would be a solid wooden doorstep is you have one.
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craft knife into the join, work it right round.
Thanks for the tip guys. I'll have a go at the weekend. I've got some Sticky Stuff remover that should do the trick.I'm wary of damaging the speaker as it's of more value than the stands. Thing is I've no intention ever of selling them so the point is moot:lol: Still, I'm keen on keeping the integrity of the Tannoys.
Pigmy Pony
10-03-2021, 19:05
Multi tools are great for this sort of thing. if you can borrow one it'll save you a lot of effort and grief :)
Here’s my take on the problem.
Using a hacksaw blade only, no frame, and from the back of the plinth, very gently using backward and forward strokes, try and sever the joint of the plinth from the cabinet.
If you modify the stand, it may be better to try and get it flame cut rather than using an angle grinder. I think the Tannoys will look a bit odd on stands with thei plinths on, but it’s up to you.
mad-moon
11-03-2021, 02:08
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CORDLESS-OSCILLATING-MULTI-TOOL-10-8V-LI-ION-CUTTING-SANDING-SILVERLINE-900798/265067210036?epid=14013744325&hash=item3db73ca534:g:MLgAAOSwUp1gN7lU
Steve's suggestion...this will move it...
Pigmy Pony
11-03-2021, 20:27
That is a very good price for a cordless one. Rather than cutting through long strokes, the blade just vibrates really quickly. Very easy to control the cut. Use mine every day, wouldn't be without it :)
If the speakers are from the same batch, strange that one would be glued and the other not.
Lay the cabs on their sides and try the plinth a few firm knocks with a block and hammer starting with the "free" ends.
I'd give that a go before my multi tool (surely a thing of the devil, a worse noise than a router !)
Removing the screws first before tapping the the plinth of course!
That would be the sensible thing to do ��
Well, yesterday I got around to deciding on what to do. A quick Click and Collect at B&Q to pick up this
https://i.imgur.com/lPRpnNx.jpg.
I already had a battery and charger so the £70 wasn't so bad. Now I have an angle grinder I wonder if I'll ever use it again :lol:
On balance I thought I'd rather butcher the stands rather than the speakers. While I was faffing with the Tannoys I gave the plinths a lick of satin black to spruce them up a bit.
https://i.imgur.com/DMV8MB2.jpg
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Last night's listening session was illuminating. Being on stands clears up the midange very nicely. Micro details emerge that were previously obscure. Also vocals that were somewhat shrill as on the Ned Doheny LP pictured were smoothed out.
The only downside seems to be that the bass has been reduced... maybe too much :scratch:
I should point out that I haven't filled the stands with damping material. I'd be interested to hear from others of their experience with damping. Would adding some kiln dried sand or some other stuff toughen up the bass? Incidentally, the stands are by Atacama.
Cheers
You move the driver up and away from a room boundary you're going to get less bass. You could try even shorter stands but then you lose some of the benefits in the mid and top.
One way round it would be very short stands that tilt the speaker back slightly.
Filling the stands can give more 'solid' impact to the bass but not known it to increase the amount or the depth of it. And it can get a bit relentless.
Interesting. I got the stands because I thought it would reduce sound transfer to the upstairs which it certainly does. Maybe I can't have it both ways :rolleyes:
Seek advice from Tannoy or Lockwood Audio. Whichmodel are the Tannoys?
just a note ...the spikes facilitate sound passing from speaker to floor or visa versa. Spikes couple !
I you want to prevent sound passing between speaker and floor via the stand you have to break the line of transmission ie decouple or isolate
these are superb and cost effective [though I was stung for import duty ..long and painful story]
https://avroomservice.com/evp-2/
Getting to within a gnats of a set of Townshend seismic bars.
I think the basic assumption here is wrong. The sound being transferred upstairs will be almost entirely airborne not structure-borne.
So move the speaker away from a room boundary (floor) by putting it on stands means it produces less bass, so less bass is heard upstairs.
Whether the stands couple or decouple makes no difference to this as structure-borne transfer is not the problem. There will be some but it will be totally eclipsed by the airborne transfer.
It's a bit of a faff isn't it. I think I'll have a go at filling the stands (half way, 2/3rds?) and see where I end up.
I'll live with it for a few weeks and then swap back to the way it was and decide which I prefer ;) When all is said and done, I was pretty happy the way it was and if it has to be boomy upstairs I'm just seeing how things can be tweaked to be optimal and if it has to be boomy upstairs the boomy it must be.
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