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Floyddroid
24-09-2020, 09:00
Which cans are you using and why?:)
Sennheiser HD650 because they were the first I bought.
Sennheiser HD540 Reference II, because they don't have the bass lift of the HD650.
Hifiman Sundara as I fancied some planar magnetics.
nuraphone's.. bluetooth or cabled, and learn and adapt to your hearing ... best ive heard, and i usually use on bluetooth tbh. ive a longrange dongle on my pc and i can walk all over most of house. not cheap but good.. about 350 i think or were.
https://www.nuraphone.com/cdn/5b2c8a9fa49e8e2d4604e60b/5edf124c1c9b91e84e9da4f2_NP-Image-1.png
Bowers and Wilkins P3 - comfortable (for my head!), sound good and portable (take on holidays for poolside/beach listening)
Alessandro Music series one (2009 version), leather headband and Sennheiser yellow ear pads - I found the Sennheiser pads more comfortable than standard "Grado" or the doughnut shaped foam pads (I used to love my old Sennheiser HD400 'phones and got the idea of using the yellow pads from using them, not sure why they are better, just feel less scratchy and take longer to overheat my ears).
Effectively a Grado headphone (SR80?) but cheaper to buy in UK (the Alessandro's come from Canada and they don't mind selling to UK, if you want Grado you have to buy in UK at inflated price compared to US retail).
Dynamic, good base - can be a little strident at times/with some source material.
For me comfort is the deciding factor, I tried several headphones before buying the B&W's but couldn't put up with them on my head for long enough to decide whether I liked the sound:)
Vintage Koss PRO-4AAAs [Well I bought them yesterday and they're on their way:D]:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/p3MdeM.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/Lkxe8Y.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/wTeqH7.jpg
Why? Because I like the 'voicing'/tone of high-quality vintage speakers, and so headphones come into that category! Therefore, I generally prefer how they present music, compared with modern speakers or headphones.
Plus, I've always wanted an original pair of Koss PRO-4AAA, as back in the day they were used in top recording and broadcast studios around the world. For me Koss were the definitive headphone company (the original American one) and their designs had a unique sound, which was always unfailingly musical, and also transparent to the recording, giving voices and instruments a vibrancy and realism that was always very addictive :)
Grado headphones are a bit like that too, and also possess that 'buttery' mellifluous midrange, but without the visceral low-end punch and attack of the Koss. I guess that I just love how American 'cans' sound.
And, as a diehard 'SPPV' guy, I like owning gear that delivers maximum 'bang for your buck'.
I paid £210 for the above (near-mint condition) examples, which isn't an insignificant amount for a pair of 40 year-old headphones, but I know that with the build quality, design prowess and materials used, it will allow them to compete with many of today's designs, at least up to the £500 mark, and likely well beyond.
Plus, if you like retro [count me in], they look cool!:cool:
If I was buying brand new, high-end headphones, but still at a 'sensible price', then I'd go for these Audio Technicas:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/BjgKt8.jpg
Details here: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/headphones/type/wired/ath-ad2000x
A) Because I love the 'airy' and very natural sound of high-quality open-backed headphones, and B) because AT have the experience, technical prowess and wherewithal to design some of the very best headphones on the market, whilst still charging 'sane' prices, and I think that the ATH-AD2000X, on the end of a top-notch headphone amp, would be capable of true greatness!
Marco.
Floyddroid
24-09-2020, 10:21
Sennheiser HD650 because they were the first I bought.
Sennheiser HD540 Reference II, because they don't have the bass lift of the HD650.
Hifiman Sundara as I fancied some planar magnetics.
I have heard great things about the Sundara'\
For me comfort is the deciding factor, I tried several headphones before buying the B&W's but couldn't put up with them on my head for long enough to decide whether I liked the sound...
Aww... Have you got a delicate wee head? Bless!:D;)
Don't think I've ever used a pair of headphones that I couldn't tolerate the feel of, to the extent that I wasn't able to wear them for long. Yes, ultimately, comfort is important, but no more so than of course sound quality.
Not much point in having something that's 'comfy', but sounds shite (or mediocre)... Therefore, for me, if a pair of headphones sound amazing, but aren't the last word in comfort (although still acceptable enough in that area), then I'll put up with a little bit of discomfort, over long-term listening, for the sonic reward:)
The Koss come under that category, as they're heavy buggers... Luckily though, my head (and neck) are thick enough to cope!:eyebrows:
Marco.
I have heard great things about the Sundara'\
They are pretty good.
User Feedback is why I bought them.
Ali Tait
24-09-2020, 11:36
A pair of Oppo PM3 which are very good, also a pair of Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth phones which I also find very good, and no faff with cables. :-)
Bought a decent Bluetooth transmitter-
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07BQYYDNJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The Sonys suffer little in comparison to the Oppo IMO, a little less detail, but more bassy which is what I was looking for, being accustomed to the 18" drivers on the Bastanis.
A pair of Oppo PM3 which are very good, also a pair of Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth phones which I also find very good, and no faff with cables. :-)
Bought a decent Bluetooth transmitter-
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07BQYYDNJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The Sonys suffer little in comparison to the Oppo IMO, a little less detail, but more bassy which is what I was looking for, being accustomed to the 18" drivers on the Bastanis.
Got Oppos myself and Sonys, although the sony 900's. both good cans.
good dongle here... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Nintendo-Headphones-Green/dp/B01G3J1I5M/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=VA1QePszI3Iv26XyecFkDw&hsa_cr_id=6777315270102&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_td_asin_1
A pair of Oppo PM3 which are very good, also a pair of Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth phones which I also find very good, and no faff with cables...
...aye, just the faff instead if the Bluetooth fails or the Wi-Fi goes down!;)
Plus I'm not keen on most modern headphones, certainly nothing less than £300, as I find them all a bit 'tinny'. I like BASS! Or more accurately, an accurate and realistic sounding low-end response from headphones, so dislike the thin (or at the other extreme boomy) treble-forward sound of most modern designs, *in comparison* with the best vintage ones.
Also, I've never understood the 'beef' with cables... Either ensure that your headphone amp (or main amp) is near your seating area [and if it isn't, then you haven't properly thought out your room], or just use an extension cable - and you're not 'tethered' either, if you simply remove the headphones from yer bonce when you need to walk about:ner:
Nah, I get why you like cordless cans with Bluetooth, but I'm more old-fashioned that way, in that I prefer being the one in control of things, not the network!;)
Marco.
bluetooth isnt over the network, and most have a cable option. (just for Clarity):eyebrows:
Oh I see lol, shows you how much I know (or care about) these things:D
You're still relying on a piece of technology to work though, in order to hear music. Nothing to beat the old-fashioned 'hardwired' way for reliability - and it usually sounds better, too!:ner:
Marco.
Oh I see lol, shows you how much I know (or care about) these things:D
You're still relying on a piece of technology to work though, in order to hear music. Nothing to beat the old-fashioned 'hardwired' way for reliability - and it usually sounds better, too!:ner:
Marco.
well thats why you can plug in a cord to use through the headphone amp too.. also the do require charging when using wirelessly.
Was just giving options as some and especially the nuras, are stunning in comparison to what older ones. Most older folk dont have perfect hearing so these adjust to suit. Not for everyone tho, and you have to get used to the inserts,(which doesnt take long really)
southall-1998_mk2
24-09-2020, 14:21
Vintage Koss PRO-4AAAs [Well I bought them yesterday and they're on their way:D]:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/p3MdeM.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/Lkxe8Y.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/wTeqH7.jpg
Why? Because I like the 'voicing'/tone of high-quality vintage speakers, and so headphones come into that category! Therefore, I generally prefer how they present music, compared with modern speakers or headphones.
Plus, I've always wanted an original pair of Koss PRO-4AAA, as back in the day they were used in top recording and broadcast studios around the world. For me Koss were the definitive headphone company (the original American one) and their designs had a unique sound, which was always unfailingly musical, and also transparent to the recording, giving voices and instruments a vibrancy and realism that was always very addictive :)
Grado headphones are a bit like that too, and also possess that 'buttery' mellifluous midrange, but without the visceral low-end punch and attack of the Koss. I guess that I just love how American 'cans' sound.
And, as a diehard 'SPPV' guy, I like owning gear that delivers maximum 'bang for your buck'.
I paid £210 for the above (near-mint condition) examples, which isn't an insignificant amount for a pair of 40 year-old headphones, but I know that with the build quality, design prowess and materials used, it will allow them to compete with many of today's designs, at least up to the £500 mark, and likely well beyond.
Plus, if you like retro [count me in], they look cool!:cool:
If I was buying brand new, high-end headphones, but still at a 'sensible price', then I'd go for these Audio Technicas:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/BjgKt8.jpg
Details here: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/headphones/type/wired/ath-ad2000x
A) Because I love the 'airy' and very natural sound of high-quality open-backed headphones, and B) because AT have the experience, technical prowess and wherewithal to design some of the very best headphones on the market, whilst still charging 'sane' prices, and I think that the ATH-AD2000X, on the end of a top-notch headphone amp, would be capable of true greatness!
Marco.
Hello Marco,
Have you tried the more affordable Audio Technica Headphones? If yes, which one?
S.
Clive197
24-09-2020, 14:30
It’s OPPO PM1’s for me. Purchased after dealer insisted I have a listen, rest is history. Also a pr of B&W C5’s for mobile, travelling & Gym (not that I’ve being doing any of that for the last 6 months)
Sherwood
24-09-2020, 14:38
HifiMan 400i headphones. In general I do not like headphones as I find them uncomfortable. However, a serious health problem meant I was spending more time away from my hifi. I wanted something that sounded similar to my Magneplanar 1.7 speakers, so I went for planar magnetic headphones. The 400i's did not disappoint with their lightning fast transient response, smooth but extended treble, and open and airy sound. However, they were hugely improved when I replaced the standard cable with a 4.4mm balanced cable. Using the balanced output on my modest Ifi Zen DAC, the bass has improved beyond belief, due no doubt to the much higher output of this port.
I noticed that HifiMan have recently launched a high sensitivity version of of this headphone claimed to work well with portable devices.
...aye, just the faff instead if the Bluetooth fails or the Wi-Fi goes down!;)
Plus I'm not keen on most modern headphones, certainly nothing less than £300, as I find them all a bit 'tinny'. I like BASS! Or more accurately, an accurate and realistic sounding low-end response from headphones, so dislike the thin (or at the other extreme boomy) treble-forward sound of most modern designs, *in comparison* with the best vintage ones.
Also, I've never understood the 'beef' with cables... Either ensure that your headphone amp (or main amp) is near your seating area [and if it isn't, then you haven't properly thought out your room], or just use an extension cable - and you're not 'tethered' either, if you simply remove the headphones from yer bonce when you need to walk about:ner:
Nah, I get why you like cordless cans with Bluetooth, but I'm more old-fashioned that way, in that I prefer being the one in control of things, not the network!;)
Marco.Well, Ali, here's a post from a man who hasn't got a clue how good the Sony's are;)
AJSki2fly
24-09-2020, 15:10
...aye, just the faff instead if the Bluetooth fails or the Wi-Fi goes down!;)
Plus I'm not keen on most modern headphones, certainly nothing less than £300, as I find them all a bit 'tinny'. I like BASS! Or more accurately, an accurate and realistic sounding low-end response from headphones, so dislike the thin (or at the other extreme boomy) treble-forward sound of most modern designs, *in comparison* with the best vintage ones.
Marco.
Sounds like a bit of audiophile snobbery going on here.:D:eyebrows:
Ali Tait
24-09-2020, 15:44
Well, Ali, here's a post from a man who hasn't got a clue how good the Sony's are;)
Lol aye, the Sonys are great cans. The Oppos have been sitting unused for quite some time tbh. You’d like them Marco, they have very decent bass.
the nuras are way better ;)
Lol aye, the Sonys are great cans. The Oppos have been sitting unused for quite some time tbh. You’d like them Marco, they have very decent bass.And all that stuff about wi-fi and Bluetooth?
Just buffer loads of albums on your phone and wi-fi is irrelevant. Plus phone in pocket and Bluetooth never fails. Or good for a few metres as long as line of sight is maintained.
Try washing the car, doing the garden or some DIY with those grossly overweight Koss on:D
I had some Koss when they weren't vintage in the 70s. Quite frankly they were dreadful, even at the time.
Worst post I have seen Marco make for ages.
Marco wake up it's 2020!:)
I'm listening as i type to Jazz at the Pawnshop through a pair of AudioQuest Nighthawks , an open back design they give a great soundstage with a light and airey feel and some real kick when combined with my travel set up of macbook air into Nico Soundlabs Portable V3 headamp ..i've had it since Nico first sold them ...about 2006 iirc ..and a fantastic piece of kit it is....I'm definately a wired guy rather than bt ..although i do use amazon music so streamed to the macbook air ..
Well, Ali, here's a post from a man who hasn't got a clue how good the Sony's are;)
Indeed - it was very much tongue-in-cheek! I do like most things Sony make, and they've always been good at headphones. BUT... In general I'm not into cordless stuff, as there is usually a sonic penalty to pay.
Marco.
Sounds like a bit of audiophile snobbery going on here.:D:eyebrows:
Lol - as I said, it was tongue-in-cheek, although as I've said before, when it comes to transducers I'm generally a vintage guy. I don't own any modern speakers, and there's a valid reason for that, as indeed I outlined earlier;)
Marco.
Try washing the car, doing the garden or some DIY with those grossly overweight Koss on:D
I had some Koss when they weren't vintage in the 70s. Quite frankly they were dreadful, even at the time.
Worst post I have seen Marco make for ages.
Marco wake up it's 2020!:)
Ha - very good! Which headphones do you use to listen to music when yer washin' yer balls?:D
And if the Koss cans you had in the 70s were dreadful, they couldn't have been PRO-4AAAs - or if they were, then they were broken!:ner:
Oh, and in terms of 2020, I'd remind you that not so long ago you were wetting your frillies over my 'ancient' Celestion 66s, at a certain hi-fi show!!:eyebrows:
Vintage done well, especially when used as part of a system in conjunction with the best new stuff, is hard to beat, homey. WORD.
Marco.
Hello Marco,
Have you tried the more affordable Audio Technica Headphones? If yes, which one?
S.
Hi Shane,
If you're looking for some quality cans from AT that offer the biggest bang for your buck, then these are the boys: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/headphones/type/wired/ath-m60x
Outstanding for the money!:trust::guitar:
Marco.
well thats why you can plug in a cord to use through the headphone amp too.. also the do require charging when using wirelessly.
Was just giving options as some and especially the nuras, are stunning in comparison to what older ones. Most older folk dont have perfect hearing so these adjust to suit. Not for everyone tho, and you have to get used to the inserts,(which doesnt take long really)
So you're saying wireless cans are for deaf old farts?:D Aye, that sounds about right!:lol:;)
I'll swing by again then in 20 years, when I'm dribbling from every orifice....
Marco.
Ha - very good! Which headphones do you use to listen to music when yer washin' yer balls?:D
And if the Koss cans you had in the 70s were dreadful, they couldn't have been PRO-4AAAs - or if they were, then they were broken!:ner:
Oh, and in terms of 2020, I'd remind you that not so long ago you were wetting your frillies over my 'ancient' Celestion 66s, at a certain hi-fi show!!:eyebrows:
Vintage done well, especially when used as part of a system in conjunction with the best new stuff, is hard to beat, homey. WORD.
Marco.https://www.koss.com/history/
I had K6/LC.
Really heavy. Really uncomfortable headband. Sweaty pads. Solid plastic inside the ear cup. Sounded shite. Couldn't wear them long it was torture. I remember them well!
Dude the Celestions were good but no world beaters just very good for that Scalford. But headphones really have advanced over the years. A lot.
BTW the Sony's are basically way too bass heavy. But once you set the EQ right they are fine. So don't judge them in a shop.
I'd bet they poop all over even your model.
Whatever but this is one case where retro won't pay off.
Firstly, thanks for the link - I was looking for that the other day but couldn't find it:thumbsup:
The Koss model you had was a totally different design from the PRO-4AAAs, much cheaper build and weren't produced with the goal of achieving the best sound quality, so you can't just say you're heard a pair of Koss 'phones, back in the day that were shite, then presume that applies to them all, thus comparing apples with oranges. You should know better than that, daftee!;)
Btw, I'm not knocking the Sonys, or saying that I wouldn't like them, simply that they'll have a very different sonic signature from what I'm looking for, just indeed as is found in the best vintage loudspeakers, compared with their modern counterparts. Each to his or her own, dude.
Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree with your last statement, and I'd happily put the PRO-4AAAs up against ANY modern headphones and be confident that they wouldn't be disgraced - far from it. One for a NEBO meeting, perhaps?:)
Have a look at what mint examples like mine can fetch on ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KOSS-PRO4AAA-Professional-Headphones-PRO-4AAA-Very-Rare-Vintage-1975-Good-Look/233438819186?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item365a09b372:g:1n8AAOSwb2JbpQYh&enc=AQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90 Z278x5ickkai8xCwosGKpC0NWj85e%2FB2IC6grH5nPh6w4uQ3 wEXBFhbxJwLunOODMRkPyOtbuywbAvL%2BaC%2BHdjvP0HzPmu 1NOftW2N4cGPJlKj4f9ClRETQIjOte7Qe6ay6ht%2FfNLt4Izr J%2FQ6iZkC7d9oOGNPJ%2BG40GgRnvf7A98UuBDUiBUBHC6IAq uoz3b1SQzs%2BAwkM8p2V%2BYgk2YbCQ5C%2FJZJH8PvVY6PHt Vx5xtT07WMDr20YkCCrkoJiC9ZVgUOtLjqaJ4lgtKWbuJPtQzY mkArMoO4qoFo91lANWDpOSd7oi3sf9%2BfBVdsASt%2B66uQ2V QB500kBvaKAsQYDNFL%2BeEPsoyIn1f9CvYAic%2BcX6JpqWIm cS9ZHr6ybr9lE59I0Gj4oNbici8TVl9D%2FN0x2uYJEctTQ%2F 5zYKWfbZ7JDrBIXCiZRW2rdGxg%2BMM7QY0lw6eRtHzaXiXlm0 %2FOgChsMrjllKHR5tynO9d1iFA4a7IsXngG1W4UXIxcNjntjD oosSZoSAtG8jBto0Vou7%2FjMPx0hYJdgVoRGB%2BJooPK9mnU OtxdrzPy8c2Boc9AAB8EZhSVJ%2FNbnWb040yoVXGz%2BEd3TZ Mo%2FhJrPG6Z%2F%2ByTEpGR3gfpE58zLfkcxTS2EUewjKjpAa Pe6TLEKbw8U2plyAB4BwWi%2F5TkrCqSLYiZA2xGEwuMIplVd% 2BbfrdoLFExd7vjlqRqTCUywDmWtU6rMRwpAR9vYIrtZh%2FgL ZVXalvAp4LheYs6P%2BNXyQ0XPL4zRk9Mud08%2FCxP1nYqW%2 BrtW%2BbNPKA%3D%3D&checksum=233438819186f864ae752a42423baf4bd6c56c59d e51
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KOSS-PRO4AAA-Plus-Professional-Headphones-PRO-4AAA-Plus-Very-Rare-Vintage-1975/233438394623?hash=item365a0338ff:g:JpoAAOSwx-9W1JzP
...and there's good reason for that, as indeed is the case with any other highly-sought after vintage gear, by discerning enthusiasts. I got off lightly!:exactly:
If the current production ones, which I think sell for around £130, were made to the same exacting standards, they'd almost certainly retail for around the £1k mark.
Marco.
These ATH-A1000Z audio-technicas are my first good cans, I just got them:
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It was between them and some beyerdynamic DT 770 PROs, but a deal came up that I couldn't resist. So far they've revealed things that I simply couldn't hear before! Admittedly I was previously using a pair of in-ear Soundmagic E10s, which are still awesome for on the go :D
I'd be curious to hear them Marco, but one thing is for sure. They are no lightweights!
I only hope for your sake you're not disappointed.
Cheers dude, but I won't be. Did you miss the bit where I said that I already have the current production models, shown here:
https://www.koss.com/review/product/list/id/851/category/43/#27448
I love the sound of those, and I know that the originals are significantly better, so it should be fine:)
The weight doesn't bother me, as I'm used to it with the ones above, which probably weigh roughly the same as the originals. One advantage of their heavyweight construction is their incredible noise-cancelling ability.
When you're wearing them they leak no sound whatsoever to the outside world [as they literally 'clamp' onto your ears, although not too forcibly], so you could be sitting in a library with them on listening to some thrash metal at full volume (heaven help your hearing, though) and NO-ONE would know!!
And that works the other way, when there's no sound going through them, and then they act as the best 'ear plugs' ever invented... It's actually rather eerie hearing your own breathing in between passages of music, such is the deathly black silence that they engulf you in:eek:
Marco.
Ali Tait
25-09-2020, 10:20
And all that stuff about wi-fi and Bluetooth?
Just buffer loads of albums on your phone and wi-fi is irrelevant. Plus phone in pocket and Bluetooth never fails. Or good for a few metres as long as line of sight is maintained.
Try washing the car, doing the garden or some DIY with those grossly overweight Koss on:D
I had some Koss when they weren't vintage in the 70s. Quite frankly they were dreadful, even at the time.
Worst post I have seen Marco make for ages.
Marco wake up it's 2020!:)
Aye they sound good on my phone or MacBook, but they are a little better through the decent transmitter sending from the Lumin.
Educate me, Ali... What's a "Lumin"?:eyebrows:
And exactly what does the transmitter do?
Marco.
I have a pair of Koss Pro 4AA and pair of Koss ESP6 (self-energised electrostatic design).
They are hot, heavy and uncomfortable to use for long periods - but in general I don't listen using headphones, as I dislike the sound appearing to be inside my head, and when you move your head, the whole soundstage moves as well (when listening to orchestral music).
I also have a cheap pair (~ £30) pair of Sony headphones, plugged into my computer, which are good enough.
AJSki2fly
25-09-2020, 12:54
.......
I'll swing by again then in 20 years, when I'm dribbling from every orifice....
Marco.
I thought you did this already.:eek::lol:
Floyddroid
25-09-2020, 12:58
Well, that went well.
I thought you did this already.:eek::lol:
Yesh. but at the moment I can just about control it:D
Marco.
Well, that went well.
Course it did... Why wouldn't it?:)
Marco.
I have a pair of Koss Pro 4AA and pair of Koss ESP6 (self-energised electrostatic design).
They are hot, heavy and uncomfortable to use for long periods...
I agree, Barry, but to be fair they probably are heavy and uncomfortable compared with most modern designs.
Marco.
Educate me, Ali... What's a "Lumin"?:eyebrows:
And exactly what does the transmitter do?
Marco.
:wave::popcorn:
Marco.
Floyddroid
26-09-2020, 10:34
I keep hearing really great things about Sony cans
Traditionally not a headphones guy, but wanted something good for late night movie viewing.
After listening to the usual suspects at this price point (Senn 660's and the like) I much preferred the sound of the Beyerdynamic Amiron Home.
https://i.imgur.com/3ykF1pp.jpg
Took a while for them to open up, sounding a bit flat and etched in the high end initially, but started to do their thing with a couple of weeks on 'em.
Originally just for late night movie watching, I never realised how good cans could be for music too.
Very deep crisp bass drives the tune, very open mids and focussed highs.
Soundstage is downright spooky sometimes, things appearing behind you apparently feet away from your head.
They have a detachable cable, a good and bad thing I learned when I accidentally tripped over it and broke it one hungover morning! :D
Replacing it I took a punt on Beyer's upgraded 7N ONCC cable, and sound quality took a nice jump.
Can wear them for hours at a time, so comfortable.
Quite lightweight, very little cup pressure on your ears and they are covered in Alcantara fabric.
Even after a few hours with them you hardly notice they are there.
Not a headphones guy as I said, but these made me see what all the fuss was about.
Good headphone amp in my Pre, the Amiron's (especially with the upgraded cable) bring me a lot closer to whatever I'm listening to, whether music or movies.
Late night listening...Done.
Floyddroid
26-09-2020, 13:39
Traditionally not a headphones guy, but wanted something good for late night movie viewing.
After listening to the usual suspects at this price point (Senn 660's and the like) I much preferred the sound of the Beyerdynamic Amiron Home.
https://i.imgur.com/3ykF1pp.jpg
Took a while for them to open up, sounding a bit flat and etched in the high end initially, but started to do their thing with a couple of weeks on 'em.
Originally just for late night movie watching, I never realised how good cans could be for music too.
Very deep crisp bass drives the tune, very open mids and focussed highs.
Soundstage is downright spooky sometimes, things appearing behind you apparently feet away from your head.
They have a detachable cable, a good and bad thing I learned when I accidentally tripped over it and broke it one hungover morning! :D
Replacing it I took a punt on Beyer's upgraded 7N ONCC cable, and sound quality took a nice jump.
Can wear them for hours at a time, so comfortable.
Quite lightweight, very little cup pressure on your ears and they are covered in Alcantara fabric.
Even after a few hours with them you hardly notice they are there.
Not a headphones guy as I said, but these made me see what all the fuss was about.
Good headphone amp in my Pre, the Amiron's (especially with the upgraded cable) bring me a lot closer to whatever I'm listening to, whether music or movies.
Late night listening...Done.
Cheers for that Gaz. I will sound em out.
Ali Tait
26-09-2020, 14:54
Educate me, Ali... What's a "Lumin"?:eyebrows:
And exactly what does the transmitter do?
Marco.
It’s the Lumin D2 streamer-
http://www.luminmusic.com/lumin-d2.html
The transmitter is the Bluetooth one I linked to in my earlier post.
brucew268
26-09-2020, 17:30
Monoprice Monolith M1060
I've always liked planar sound and while I loved the Tin HiFi P1, my ears have a problem with the pressures involved in IEMs so I started looking at full sized headphones. The Sundara were what I wanted but didn't want to spend that much so I was looking at the HE-400i (2020) and Monoprice M1060. There is quite a modding community surrounding certain cans and the M1060 is one of them. It seemed like I could get the planar sound I wanted for £200 and with a minimum of easy mods I could tailor the sound a bit to my preference... which is about what I've got, though a little tinkering left to do. I tend to be attracted to the tinkering aspect of HiFi along with my musical enjoyment.
It’s the Lumin D2 streamer-
http://www.luminmusic.com/lumin-d2.html
The transmitter is the Bluetooth one I linked to in my earlier post.
Thanks, Ali. That's interesting.. How much is the Lumin, and how easy is it to add existing hard-drives/files of music to it?:)
Marco.
Filterlab
26-09-2020, 19:45
I don’t have any headphones these days as I’ve no need, but in the past I’ve owned...
Sennheiser HD25s
Sennheiser HD600s
Sennheiser HD650s
Beyerdynamic DT770 Pros
Beyerdynamic DT1990 Pros
Plus a pile of non-Hi-Fi stuff.
By a long shot, the DT1990 Pros stood out for me. Open backed, so transparent, weighty and clean, musical too. I drove them with a Beresford Headphone amp (can’t remember the name) plus an Audioquest Dragonfly Red.
Sherwood
26-09-2020, 19:50
Monoprice Monolith M1060
I've always liked planar sound and while I loved the Tin HiFi P1, my ears have a problem with the pressures involved in IEMs so I started looking at full sized headphones. The Sundara were what I wanted but didn't want to spend that much so I was looking at the HE-400i (2020) and Monoprice M1060. There is quite a modding community surrounding certain cans and the M1060 is one of them. It seemed like I could get the planar sound I wanted for £200 and with a minimum of easy mods I could tailor the sound a bit to my preference... which is about what I've got, though a little tinkering left to do. I tend to be attracted to the tinkering aspect of HiFi along with my musical enjoyment.
I use the HifiMan 400i with a balanced cable. It makes a huge difference. May not be so important with the more efficient 2020 model but it transformed my 2018 set. Only cost £30 or thereabouts!
Landloper
26-09-2020, 20:10
Grado SR80
Sennheiser HD650
Sennheiser HD700
[Used with the following HPAs: Beresford Capella, Lehmann Rhinelander, Myryad Z40, Lehmann Linear.]
The Grados were offered end-of-line half price by a local retailer from whom I'd bought a fair bit of kit. I've never found them terribly comfortable but they were the first proper pair of cans I'd owned and I was impressed with the sound. I listened to the first stereo Ring cycle conducted by Keilberth in 1955 [Testament CD, 2008] through the Grados and it was a tremedous experience.
I then decided to buy a dedicated HPA and chose the Lehmann Rhinelander. I found the Lehmann and the Grados were not a good match, so decided the buy the '650s. The comfort was streets ahead of the Grados, and the 650s and Rhinelander worked much better together. Later I had a Beresford set up with the Capella as the HPA, an amp I still use with the SEG.
Having done a couple of years with the 650s I felt that headphone listening had proved itself to me, so decided to invest in swankier gear. I chose a pair of HD 700s and a Lehmann Linear to power them. I found the 700s to be a fabulous set of cans - very comfortable and the best sound I had with headphones so far. The only let with the 700s was the styling - a bit too space age for my taste, but I don't mind nearly so much now i have had them a while. The Linear was most capable HPA I could afford and has proved itself to me: smooth yet never boring, it has manages to achieve a balance between all the elments of music without overdoing any one constituent. Perfect for long hours of listening.
Ali Tait
26-09-2020, 20:13
Thanks, Ali. That's interesting.. How much is the Lumin, and how easy is it to add existing hard-drives/files of music to it?:)
Marco.
Just under the 2k mark mate. It doesn’t have a hard drive, just connects to the network with an Ethernet cable. I use Roon and have Tidal and Qobuz. Also have a Drobo with a load of FLAC files. It’s a great sounding bit of kit imo.
brucew268
26-09-2020, 20:50
I use the HifiMan 400i with a balanced cable. It makes a huge difference. May not be so important with the more efficient 2020 model but it transformed my 2018 set. Only cost £30 or thereabouts!
Yes, I use the M1060 with a balanced cable driven by the E1DA Powerdac v2. It's pretty amazing in what it can drive and with a lush detail, balanced only, for the silly price of $60. Unusual technology for both the DAC and amplification.
Some of the nicest headphones I have used were the Sennheiser HD450:
https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_site/productdb/headfi/1661214.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=500&h=500&dpr=1&q=70.
I say "nicest" as they were comfortable with a more than adequate sound quality (and let's face it, using headphones is a very artificial way to listen to anything, so IMO there is no point in eulogising about any of them) and for a reasonable price (about £60 in 1998).
Only dispensed with them around 2003, as the foam ear pads started to perish.
I know what you mean, and those Senns are nice, although a little lacking in 'heft' for me, with the likes of rock/dance or electronic music, which I suspect you won't listen much to anyway:eyebrows: Nice mids and top-end, though!
However, much like Macca, whose opinions on headphones are broadly similar to yours, I kind of disagree...
Yes, in some ways they are indeed an 'artificial way to listen to anything', such as music in its purest sense, in terms of the aspects that make it sound and FEEL real, but as a *tool* for analysing and/or dissecting information on recordings, or say 'tuning' the sound of a turntable, for me they are invaluable and can reveal much more of what's going on than any external speakers.
Plus, let's not also forget the rather significant sonic benefits of removing room effects from the equation! Those benefits are especially true when using the most well-designed headphones, on the end of the best dedicated headphone amps.
Therefore, as an effective *tool* for that purpose, for me, they have few peers, and so fully deserve 'eulogising' about, especially when their use allows the enjoyment of listening to music late at night, or in the early hours of the morning, without disturbing other occupants of the house who are tucked up in bed;)
Marco.
accuphaseman
27-09-2020, 15:47
Use headphones most of the time so have a few to choose from.
Stax SR009 SR007 L700
Denon AD-H500
B&w P9
Depends what Im listening to and for how long for which pair get used.
Some of the nicest headphones I have used were the Sennheiser HD450:
https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_site/productdb/headfi/1661214.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=500&h=500&dpr=1&q=70.
I say "nicest" as they were comfortable with a more than adequate sound quality (and let's face it, using headphones is a very artificial way to listen to anything, so IMO there is no point in eulogising about any of them) and for a reasonable price (about £60 in 1998).
Only dispensed with them around 2003, as the foam ear pads started to perish.
They're the same as I'm currently using :lol: The second set of foam pads are wearing a bit thin now though, should look to upgrading them soon I think...
I pretty well agree with Marco in post 55.
I ask for an opinion from other members which on the slope of the Sennheisers is the most accurate and also suitable for assessing and comparing the sound of one's speakers in room.
HD600, 650, 700, etc, or maybe even higher up the scale.
Hi Dennis,
I pretty well agree with Marco in post 55.
Cheers. For me, regardless of headphones arguably being an 'artificial' way of listening to music, and personally I still derive great pleasure from listening to music that way, they *are* an accurate tool for analysing sonic differences between various audio sources, and also aiding in the accurate set up of a turntable.
Want to, crystal clearly, hear the difference between .05g of VTF, or 1mm of VTA, the effect of (very slight) sub-optimal azimuth, and the difference fixing it makes, or the sonic influence of two different record clamps? Then strap on a pair of revealing cans - and all will become apparent, MUCH more so than through any external speakers!
:trust:
I ask for an opinion from other members which on the slope of the Sennheisers is the most accurate and also suitable for assessing and comparing the sound of one's speakers in room.
Sorry, I've read the above 5 or 6 times and I still can't quite get what you mean... Could you please clarify?:)
Marco.
Maybe it was a bit abstruse of me - late etc.
I really want to know which along the range of Sennheisers is sufficiently good to evaluate speaker sound in room, particularly in frequency response terms. When I said "slope" I was referring to the increasing price and quality as one goes up the range which is a slope in cost terms, and one supposes, quality as well.
I've seen opinions which suggest that 650s are more neutral or flat than 800s, and other seemingly anomalous comments, so what do people here think?
Ah that makes sense now, ta! It was the "slope" thing that was throwing me most... Sorry, can't help with your query, as I have no great experience with the headphones in question.
In general, I've always preferred the sound of Beyer Dynamic to Sennheiser, but Japanese or American heaphones (such as AT/Sony or Grado/Koss) are ultimately more to my taste, compared with their German counterparts.
Marco.
I find it a strange idea of using headphones to assess the quality of speakers. :scratch: The listening experience offered by each is entirely different.
AJSki2fly
28-09-2020, 11:45
I have two pairs of headphones:-
Trio KH-32
https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/image/dr000/auc0212/users/0/5/9/4/oliveorivie-img600x400-1483156452ofprxa27818.jpg
These Trio's date from the late 70's and were originally purchased by my friend Dave, I recall him listening to many different headphones in his price range at the time until he found these, which he considered natural sounding across the frequencies, and with good bass reproduction, I think they were about £45 at the time. They were not that cheap really, in todays money that would be just over £200. I brought them from him about 10 years later when he upgraded, and use them on and off over the past 30 years. They are very good with lots of detail and a good sound stage.
I have replaced the circular foam behind each speaker cover which your ears rest on as this had broken down over the years, apart from that they are original and in surprisingly good condition.
Transducers: Dynamic employing 25 micron mylar film elements
Sensitivity 106dB for 1mW input
Frequency 20-20Khz
Impedance 4-16ohm
Weight 290gm
There is a pair on ebay at the moment for about £35, so if you want a good sounding headphones on a budget they might be worth a punt.
KLH Ultima One's
Sensitivity (SPL at 1kHz for 1Vrms input) 109.4dB
Impedance modulus min/max (20Hz-20kHz) 33.8ohm @ 1.0kHz, 38.7ohm @ 39Hz
Capsule matching (40Hz-10kHz) ±12.6dB
LF extension (–6dB ref. 200Hz) <20Hz
Distortion 100Hz/1kHz (for 90dB SPL) 0.4% / <0.1%
Weight (headset only) 349g
Price £299
https://www.hifinews.com/images/styles/600_wide/public/1119klh.promo_.jpg
I purchased these last year as I wanted to improve my headphone listening experience without shelling out a fortune. The KLH's have had a number of reviews in the press and are generally favourable. The bass is prominent, but it doesn’t get as boomy as some headphones can. From the mids through the lower treble, the response sounds fairly flat, and there seems to be a little extra emphasis in the mid-treble, which makes instruments such as cymbals zing a little more. Probably a good thing for me as my top end hearing has dropped off a little with age, which is par for the course as one gets older. Overall I find they give a excellent listening experience and are VGFM in my opinion.
I have done some back to back listening with both pairs and did so again this morning listening to Joe Jackson - Night and Day, a classic album with huge dynamics and lovely range of instruments and extremely well recorded. The KLH it has to be said are the better headphones not by miles but they have better detail and colour the presentation less, having said that the Trio's for a 40 year old pair of headphones are very good.
Love the look of the Trios (retro classy and understated) - right up my street!:)
Don't know anything about the KLH, but like how you describe their sound... One thing I simply CANNOT go, and detest with headphones, is boomy bass!!:rolleyes::nono:
It's got to be FULL, as in have proper weight and texture, but also be tight, punchy and tuneful, which is exactly what I get with the Koss - even the inferior modern replicas I'm currently using.
If I hear boomy bass with headphones, they go straight in the bin!
Marco.
Landloper
28-09-2020, 13:26
+ 1 on the look of the Trios. Most beguiling!
Mike Reed
28-09-2020, 13:38
Some of the nicest headphones I have used were the Sennheiser HD450:
https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_site/productdb/headfi/1661214.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=500&h=500&dpr=1&q=70.
I say "nicest" as they were comfortable with a more than adequate sound quality (and let's face it, using headphones is a very artificial way to listen to anything, so IMO there is no point in eulogising about any of them) and for a reasonable price (about £60 in 1998).
Only dispensed with them around 2003, as the foam ear pads started to perish.
Currently using these on my computer; pads perished long ago, which is why my lady wiffie pinched my new but cheap Grado 60. They were taken into custody from the college audio stores I managed when it closed down about 35 years ago or more ago. Still work well, but would be even better with pads, assuming they can be had.
No mention of Focals on this thread; am a bit surprised. I've had HD650s for a decade or more but wanted to upgrade without a culture shock (the 800 series are different beasts). The Elears do just that; more transparency, better frequency extremes and prob. more comfy, albeit heavier than the Senn's.
There's still something really comforting and immersive about the 650s, though, and I still use them. I'm not the only one to 'upgrade' from these but deliberately fail to move on their 650s !
I really wonder what the Utopias (at around £3K) bring to the party, but it's a pity that I'll probably never know (at my age).:) I listen to TV a lot on cans and have music (CD and vinyl) sessions on them as a change from my big ESLs. Coil cans and ESL speakers; nice presentational juxtaposition.
AJSki2fly
28-09-2020, 15:13
Love the look of the Trios (retro classy and understated) - right up my street!:)
Marco.
Well from what I have found out they are rather rare, especially in great condition. So if you are interested in them you are welcome to make a bid.:eyebrows:
I use these cheap Sony headphones with my computer
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81is--jCNYL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
They were originally £30, but can now be had for about £12!
My partner uses a pair of these Sony headphones:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61GkWh1-OUL._AC_SL1320_.jpg
They cost about £30, but the headband is so thin and plasticky that they 'creak' annoyingly with the slightest movement of your head.
I have two pairs of headphones:-
Trio KH-32
https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/image/dr000/auc0212/users/0/5/9/4/oliveorivie-img600x400-1483156452ofprxa27818.jpg
These Trio's date from the late 70's and were originally purchased by my friend Dave, I recall him listening to many different headphones in his price range at the time until he found these, which he considered natural sounding across the frequencies, and with good bass reproduction, I think they were about £45 at the time. They were not that cheap really, in todays money that would be just over £200. I brought them from him about 10 years later when he upgraded, and use them on and off over the past 30 years. They are very good with lots of detail and a good sound stage.
I have replaced the circular foam behind each speaker cover which your ears rest on as this had broken down over the years, apart from that they are original and in surprisingly good condition.
Transducers: Dynamic employing 25 micron mylar film elements
Sensitivity 106dB for 1mW input
Frequency 20-20Khz
Impedance 4-16ohm
Weight 290gm
There is a pair on ebay at the moment for about £35, so if you want a good sounding headphones on a budget they might be worth a punt.
KLH Ultima One's
Sensitivity (SPL at 1kHz for 1Vrms input) 109.4dB
Impedance modulus min/max (20Hz-20kHz) 33.8ohm @ 1.0kHz, 38.7ohm @ 39Hz
Capsule matching (40Hz-10kHz) ±12.6dB
LF extension (–6dB ref. 200Hz) <20Hz
Distortion 100Hz/1kHz (for 90dB SPL) 0.4% / <0.1%
Weight (headset only) 349g
Price £299
https://www.hifinews.com/images/styles/600_wide/public/1119klh.promo_.jpg
I purchased these last year as I wanted to improve my headphone listening experience without shelling out a fortune. The KLH's have had a number of reviews in the press and are generally favourable. The bass is prominent, but it doesn’t get as boomy as some headphones can. From the mids through the lower treble, the response sounds fairly flat, and there seems to be a little extra emphasis in the mid-treble, which makes instruments such as cymbals zing a little more. Probably a good thing for me as my top end hearing has dropped off a little with age, which is par for the course as one gets older. Overall I find they give a excellent listening experience and are VGFM in my opinion.
I have done some back to back listening with both pairs and did so again this morning listening to Joe Jackson - Night and Day, a classic album with huge dynamics and lovely range of instruments and extremely well recorded. The KLH it has to be said are the better headphones not by miles but they have better detail and colour the presentation less, having said that the Trio's for a 40 year old pair of headphones are very good.
300 - 350 grams! Lightweight - my Koss ESP-6s are a couple of pounds in weight, and can only be tolerated for about half an hour.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/273420535789_/Vintage-KOSS-ESP6-Electrostatic-Stereophones-Headphones-Rare-ESP-6.jpg
AJSki2fly
28-09-2020, 17:12
300 - 350 grams! Lightweight - my Koss ESP-6s are a couple of pounds in weight, and can only be tolerated for about half an hour.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/273420535789_/Vintage-KOSS-ESP6-Electrostatic-Stereophones-Headphones-Rare-ESP-6.jpg
Yes the KLH weigh in at 0.7lbs, an I find I can happily wear them for several hours, although I usually know of to sleep before then.
I wasn't disputing the weight, just saying why mine are so uncomfortable to wear after about a half hour.
I have the same problem with my middle leg... Gives me terrible backache hauling this elephant's trunk around with me all day.
Marco.
AJSki2fly
28-09-2020, 19:40
I wasn't disputing the weight, just saying why mine are so uncomfortable to wear after about a half hour.
I didn’t think you were, just saying how long I find them comfy for [emoji8]
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Is it the same when your wife's G-string's giving you jip?:D;)
Marco.
AJSki2fly
28-09-2020, 20:16
Is it the same when your wife's G-string's giving you jip?:D;)
Marco.
Only if I put them on the wrong way round[emoji33]
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I find it a strange idea of using headphones to assess the quality of speakers. :scratch: The listening experience offered by each is entirely different.
Yes they are very different experiences, axis through the head etc, but I remember in about '90 comparing my Wharfdale Isodynamics with my then ESS Monitors, and thinking they are almost identical in frequency response.
I now want to buy a pair of phones to check/compare my speaker in room response with.
Yo dude,
I'd be curious to hear them Marco, but one thing is for sure. They are no lightweights!
I only hope for your sake you're not disappointed.
Check out what I thought of them here: https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?70424-The-Marco-boy-main-system-as-of-August-2020&p=1225370#post1225370
:cool:
Marco.
brucew268
06-12-2020, 22:37
I use the HifiMan 400i with a balanced cable. It makes a huge difference. May not be so important with the more efficient 2020 model but it transformed my 2018 set. Only cost £30 or thereabouts!
Yes, I've noticed that if a headphone amp has a balanced out there is a good bit more power and quality going that route. I have a little E1DA PowerDAC that outputs balanced only and does an amazing job for its price. However, my unbalanced modded Little Dot 1+ and Schiit Mimby are my daily users now and leave it behind... at 5x the cost, of course they do. I listened to the ifi Zen DAC for a week a really liked it, almost kept it as the DAC only portion did slightly better than the Topping E30 DAC, which was no slouch.
Lawrence001
07-12-2020, 00:40
I've gone round in circles over the last year or so after a lot of experimentation and have landed back on my trusty HD650s which I started out with!
I'll need to get a few pairs I've been through listed next week, AKG701s and Audioquest Nighthawks, also some Oppo PM3s which someone has first dibs on.
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Ali Tait
07-12-2020, 12:38
Now have a pair of Dan Clark Audio Ether 2, brilliant cans. Easily the best I’ve heard so far.
Pete The Cat
07-12-2020, 16:25
White Noise Audio Mk3 amp:
Beyer DT990 Pro - general use, good all-rounder for the money and hardy when dropped
Sennheiser HD600 - critical and detailed, for classical and acoustic
Denon AH-D2000 - warm and rich, for rock 'n' roll
AKG Y50 wired - for on the move
Pete
kirstysdad
07-12-2020, 17:26
PSB M4U1
https://i.postimg.cc/n9pLBTjg/psb-m4u1-blk-l-3-large.jpg (https://postimg.cc/n9pLBTjg)
Tight (not on the head), fast, neutral, comfy, very open for closed back design, sound a bit like listening to speakers ie well away from yer lugs (ears)
I took them out to photograph and found the ?plastic coating of the headband was perishing! Hence the stock image, sorry...:doh:
I use Beyer DT150. Better than everything else I've tried.
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Audio Technica ATH-M50X
For use with my Pioneer DDJ controller.
Nuraphones. Best I've used.
brucew268
08-12-2020, 07:13
Nuraphones. Best I've used.I would imagine their ear interface is something one either loves or hates.
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I would imagine their ear interface is something one either loves or hates.
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initially yes, you do wonder if you can handle them, but that soon passes when you get the fit right and your ears get used to it. a bit like getting a filling.. it feels wrong for a while then it just vanishes. sound is astonishing, and although ive tried, i cant stand the sound of normal cans now. my oppo planers are great but not really used now
Shovel_Knight
08-12-2020, 10:31
Hifiman HE-400s - very nice but their 20 Ohm impedance makes them difficult to drive for current-starved headphone amplifiers
Fostex T50Rp Mk3 with Mayflower mods (also very nice but even more difficult to drive)
Koss KSC75 with PartsExpress headband and large earpads (ridiculously good sound for peanuts)
Apple AirPods Pro - best comfort and user experience on the market, but they're not really suitable for high quality music reproduction. I mostly use them for Zoom calls and while out and about.
Ali Tait
08-12-2020, 12:40
I drive the Ethers directly from my OTL, just have suitable resistors in series and parallel in a wee box which connects to the speaker terminals of the amp and has a 4 pin XLR connector for the cans. Sounds superb, though run this way the cans are less sensitive than my speakers lol.
nuraphone's.. best ive heard
Your words have been reverberating around my head for the last few days... I finally gave in and subscribed. v.excited to listen to them.
They are great when set up to your ears. Although a little better on cable, a good Bluetooth connection and you gain freedom.
The avantree leaf for pc is super. Great range too.
I'm very lucky as a few years ago I managed to pick up a pair of Sennheiser HE60s and a class A Head Acoustics activator to drive them, they replaced a Stax 404 pro system that my son now owns. I also have a pair of Hifiman HE500s driven by an Icon audio HP8 using Psvane output tubes. Portable duty is covered by a pair of B&W P3s which I use with a Fiio DAP.
technobear
18-12-2020, 19:59
https://i.ibb.co/KwHMmgp/PR2-H2-T1.jpg (https://ibb.co/jRFcHYP)
I also have an Audeze LCD-X but the T1 is better. The LCD-X is a great tool for analysing the music, the T1 is a boogie machine and just takes you on a musical journey.
They are great when set up to your ears. Although a little better on cable, a good Bluetooth connection and you gain freedom.
The avantree leaf for pc is super. Great range too.
You might get an improvement with the Avantree DG60 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Avantree-Bluetooth-Superior-Wireless-Headphones-Black/dp/B0881X4MB2/ref=asc_df_B0881X4MB2/?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=&hvpos=&hvnetw=o&hvrand=&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584345024501270&psc=1) or similar with the CSR8675 chipset, as it would support Aptx HD, as the Nuraphones do.
I’ve just got beyerdynamic dt 1770 pro. Took some getting used to after using meze 99 classics for 3yrs.
Very good isolation and not at all ear piercing when when playing loud.
Merry Christmas to all..
Lawrence001
26-12-2020, 23:27
I've gone round in circles over the last year or so after a lot of experimentation and have landed back on my trusty HD650s which I started out with!
I'll need to get a few pairs I've been through listed next week, AKG701s and Audioquest Nighthawks, also some Oppo PM3s which someone has first dibs on.
Sent from my HRY-LX1 using TapatalkI bought a pair of HD700s a few weeks ago and Shane's Graham Slee Solo, they sound sublime together. Basically sounds the same as the HD700s and GS Ultra Linear Diamond I had earlier if memory serves me right.
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Two sets of headphones requiring different amps:
Stax 009S + Focal Stellias.
Two sets of headphones requiring different amps:
Stax 009S + Focal Stellias.
both quality cans...
Nuraphones. Best I've used.
Also a Nuraphones user here. Love the flexibility of using cable or bluetooth connectivity. They stay charged for a long time so all in all very pleased with them.
The earpiece fitting does take a little getting used to but now I do not even notice it and I really enjoy listening to the music.
I also bought a set of Nuraloops from the same company but they are getting less use, although they use the same technology, as I find they do not fit quite so well. Reminds me I should give them another go.
stonehenge
04-01-2021, 21:40
Beyer DT911 that I have had for years. Status Audio CB1 closed back. Philips Fidelio X2HR which are remarkable for the money. Chord Mojo feeds all three successfully.
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