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I know a few people have mentioned problems with tinnitus previously. Has anyone tried these? I wonder what the effect whilst listening to music would be? https://www.flareaudio.com/pages/calmer-life?gclid=CjwKCAjw19z6BRAYEiwAmo64LUOsLUrSjde-Vfb-_eccCEH9XQK-OA1jdTPJWp0ktzE2jeNdnm5s2RoC4eMQAvD_BwE
Looks like it might be worth exploring ...after a quick read over the linked site ... now to explore it further off to google it is ...
Found this fairly quickly .... looking like possibly an expensive earplug ish thing ...
https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/185453/flare-audio-fact-or-fiction
walpurgis
08-09-2020, 12:25
That reminds me, my fairly regular tinnitis has gone quiet for the last week or two.
Nothing on Tinitus UK about them.... although Calmer have Tinitus UK on their website ... so i'm thinking its a product that may help people feel "calmer" as they claim i doubt it will help with my tinitus ...sadly .... of course as with everything audio ymmv ... but at £19 i'm not biting ... yet at least ... if any other AOS members have experience like the OP i'm keen to know ...
I've just chatted online with British Tinnitus Ass and the bottom line is that "Flare" are a corporate sponser and they are aware (BTA) that for some people the Calmers make a difference ... the BTA also tell me that Flare are offering a 30 day trial period so i think i'll go for it and share here & back at the BTA as long as its a 30day ... i must say i'm very sceptical but my tinnitus is a companion i get no peace from and one that i'd rather not have ... so off i go to buy these "Calmers" ....
I think there should be laws against ineffective products.
Not saying this is one, but the amount of stuff that is sold in chemists that doesn't work is crazy. Fungal toenail remover is very guilty. Not one of them works against even a medium case of fungal toenail.
That reminds me, my fairly regular tinnitis has gone quiet for the last week or two.
I must admit mine is there all the time but not at a level that is truly intrusive. Obviously when it’s quiet it’s more irritating but that means playing music usually masks it. I think I have come to the conclusion that driving makes mine worse. On the web page it suggests the plugs cut out certain problematic frequencies which is why I wondered what it might do to music listening.
I think there should be laws against ineffective products.
Not saying this is one, but the amount of stuff that is sold in chemists that doesn't work is crazy. Fungal toenail remover is very guilty. Not one of them works against even a medium case of fungal toenail.
I agree very strongly, but it seems to me that capitalism depends to a great extent on just such, Hi-Fi is full of it, and I'm sure that health shops are frequented largely by placebophiles.
My experience in the last 10 years of tradesmen has been similar.
I have paid a builder to construct an extension, the windows and doors were all in the wrong place, and the floor was too low so I had to glue 9mm ply over all the joists to correct it.
I had to correct over a week, a plasterers work, and just this week correct plumbing work from (corgi) plumbers after they fitted a new boiler which was very sloppily done, and they damaged my property as well. When I complained they sent a manager round who looked at my own plumbing in the extension, and said it was faultless and superb, and I have not been trained as a plumber.
I'm also not convinced by the supposedly scientific use of drugs by the NHS on its grand scale.
When I was about to become a pensioner I rang the Pensions department to prompt them, and then later, after four months in which I should have received it, rang them 14 times to ask why I had not. On the fourteenth occasion I spoke to a manager who said that she though that her staff needed some training.
What irks me is that these are not atypical examples, it seems ubiquitous, especially with large organisations.
Calmers purchased ...now to wait for them to arrive .... as far as placebo goes if they work they work and tbh anything that can reduce my tinnitus will be welcome , although as i said earlier i'm very sceptical ...
I hope they work for you Lloyd.
walpurgis
09-09-2020, 07:04
I think I have come to the conclusion that driving makes mine worse.
Funny, I've found that too. I think it's the level of concentration required when driving that causes it. Driving may not seem stressful for many on a conscious level, but the stress is there nonetheless.
I've had tinnitus for 25 years, and it was I'm sure affected by the high spls when riding a motorbike. Earplugs did not help because as the helmet moved around on bumps, the eardrum was sucked in and out by this high amplitude (DC) movement. Stress also makes mine worse, driving, and also training hard at the gym.
Since lockdown mine is much better, sometimes almost zero.
Pete The Cat
19-09-2020, 14:09
In my experience the best treatment, sadly the one that is initially of no use or comfort to sufferers, is not focusing on it. Far easier said than done and I've lived that journey, believe me. The day you're not seeking a cure, nor trying to gauge whether it's getting louder or a different pitch, is the day your recovery begins. If you can fill your head with other stuff - work, family, whatever - time can do the rest. If I let it my T can be the loudest thing in the house, but now I just think "I'm bored with you" and it recedes. Stress, tiredness and having a cold don't help, but while T is very real, controlling it is in the mind. Same way you can learn to switch off from noticing planes overhead...
Pete
hornucopia
19-09-2020, 15:06
"Driving may not seem stressful for many on a conscious level, but the stress is there nonetheless. "
I recall Graham Hill being strapped to a heart monitor, then driving around streets -sedately, not racing. His heart rate doubled-
and that's a professional driver!
StingRay
19-09-2020, 20:13
Never noticed tinnitus when driving, probably because my mind is on something else. As said above I usually only notice it when I think about it as when reading posts like this, although sometimes watching TV can make it noticeable maybe it’s the sound?
technobear
20-09-2020, 12:32
I often wondered if CRT TV coil whine was the cause of my tinnitus. I could always here them and the frequency of the tinnitus is not far off.
I find caffeine makes it worse. Also anything sweet. Also cheddar cheese. But eating in general often seems to make it worse.
It's surprising how loud even relatively refined cars are. I wonder if driving with the windows down in the days before air con was a cause. That's loud. My tinnitus is much worse in the right ear.
Spending time outdoors seems to lessen it.
What about the effective spl when rinsing ears by the splashing technique? That has to be high.
winstonmalcolm
25-10-2020, 10:29
Calmers purchased ...now to wait for them to arrive .... as far as placebo goes if they work they work and tbh anything that can reduce my tinnitus will be welcome , although as i said earlier i'm very sceptical ...
Hi Swann36,
I also suffer with Tinnitus and was wondering if you have an update on the Calmers
walpurgis
25-10-2020, 10:34
Just realised mine is back. I tend not to think about it, as I'm used to it being there a lot of the time. I must have woken up with it this morning, there was none yesterday. It's a soft whistle at around 5/6 kHz.
anthonyTD
25-10-2020, 10:35
Hi All,
I decided to give them a go a few weeks back now, although sod's law i have already lost one due to mask wearing and removal :doh: which Calmer has been very good about, and have sent me a replacement for a very minimal fee.
I can't say it actualy helps with the various noise i hear daily due to severe tinitus in my right ear, however; what i have found is wearing them on a daily basis around normal sounds and in the car, i do feel calmer, i can't explain further that what the makers state on why that is, but i do think that they make a diffrence to my over-all mood through the time i have used them.
Hope this helps.
A...
Pigmy Pony
25-10-2020, 11:38
Just realised mine is back. I tend not to think about it, as I'm used to it being there a lot of the time. I must have woken up with it this morning, there was none yesterday. It's a soft whistle at around 5/6 kHz.
Yeah, that's about the same as mine. Only really noticeable when I think about it. Or when I'm playing music, as if it's trying to compete :(
had it for many years(industrial accident) . it used to bug me badly but it doesnt mostly now. its there but i can overcome hearing it with a quite tv on at night.. its pretty loud at moment tho.
walpurgis
26-10-2020, 08:23
And today it's gone...................for the moment.
Having gone to the trouble of reading the linked effects on music and Tinnitus I have to say that the mfg is not making any claims at all . Instead they are reacting and looking at some claims from users who have noted improvements . As they say the causes and treatments for tinnitus are many and what works for one may not work in anyway with someone else . As they offer a 30 day free return they are letting anyone interested try the product and see if it helps . If it does then fantastic anything that will lower or improve the life of a tinnitus sufferer is to be applauded. For those that say it is just a placebo effect then my reply is so what if it works for you do not question it just take the improvement . I like that this mfg gets the accusations of snake oil and accept them and make no claim other than that they do what they were designed for which is filter out certain frequencies known to irritate or cause anxiety . This addition is unexpected and person dependent so they are noting it but not saying that is going to work . At £19 this is not what most would call a major purchase and if it works then that would be a great result . Will wait and see the comments.
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