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philv
16-08-2020, 11:30
Looking for -


Valve amplifier.

I have a budget of 550.
Audio 300b set

Quad va-one with increased bufget.

Other lower powered valve amps considered.
4W p/c upwards

Sherwood
16-08-2020, 12:45
Antique Sound Labs do some good EL84 integrated amps. Should find a good example for around £400 or so.

BTW Divergent Technologies are the distributor for Ref 3a and ASL!

philv
17-08-2020, 20:27
Would also consider a 300b set such as audion, etc.

philv
17-08-2020, 20:40
Can a kind mod please change the title to
wtd - valve amplifer.

Thank you

Macca
18-08-2020, 11:53
Hi Phil

I have this for sale https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?48111-For-Sale-Firebottle-Dulci-Single-ended-class-A-EL84-valve-power-amp&highlight=firebottle+dulci

Asking £200.

philv
18-08-2020, 12:33
Hi Phil

I have this for sale https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?48111-For-Sale-Firebottle-Dulci-Single-ended-class-A-EL84-valve-power-amp&highlight=firebottle+dulci

Asking £200.
Pm sent

philv
21-08-2020, 19:47
Up to 6-700.

Something single ended or ?
Open to offers/suggestions.

spendorman
21-08-2020, 20:05
What are the speakers that the amp will be used with?

philv
21-08-2020, 20:08
What are the speakers that the amp will be used with?

92db ref 3a mm de capo

Not loud levels and 4 or 5 wpc quite often used by owners

spendorman
21-08-2020, 20:21
A single ended EL34 amp is not really enough for my Tannoys HPD315's which are around 89 dB.

Sherwood
21-08-2020, 20:30
I drove my Ref 3a de Capo's with my Art Audio Quintet valve amp. In triode mode (15w per channel) this EL34 push-pull amp drove the de Capo's beautifully

philv
21-08-2020, 20:34
Sounds nice.
Sounds out of budget!

spendorman
21-08-2020, 20:39
I drove my Ref 3a de Capo's with my Art Audio Quintet valve amp. In triode mode (15w per channel) this EL34 push-pull amp drove the de Capo's beautifully

Much more powerful than my single ended EL34 amp.

My Rogers Cadet III, although low powered (well under 15W per channel) is push-pull and drives my Tannoy HPD315's quite well.

Sherwood
21-08-2020, 20:43
Much more powerful than my single ended EL34 amp.

My Rogers Cadet III, although low powered (well under 15W per channel) is push-pull and drives my Tannoy HPD315's quite well.

I had a Rogers Cadet 3 which I bought in Exchange and Mart for £12. It drove my Rogers LS3/5a's very well. It was better than my solid state Rogers A75 amp which I bought at the same time as the LS3/5a's (over 40 years ago).

spendorman
21-08-2020, 20:47
I had a Rogers Cadet 3 which I bought in Exchange and Mart for £12. It drove my Rogers LS3/5a's very well. It was better than my solid state Rogers A75 amp which I bought at the same time as the LS3/5a's (over 40 years ago).

Although a Rogers fan (Jim Rogers was a family friend) I never liked the Ravensbourne amp, and I think the A75 was a development of that.

Sherwood
21-08-2020, 20:52
Although a Rogers fan (Jim Rogers was a family friend) I never liked the Ravensbourne amp, and I think the A75 was a development of that.

Not sure about its antecedents but I was surprised at just how much better the Cadet was with LS3/5a's. The A75 MkII was more powerful but lacked the capacity of the Cadet to resolve finer detail. However, the Formica cabinet on the Cadet was a aesthetic crime of the highest order!

spendorman
21-08-2020, 21:00
Not sure about its antecedents but I was surprised at just how much better the Cadet was with LS3/5a's. The A75 MkII was more powerful but lacked the capacity of the Cadet to resolve finer detail. However, the Formica cabinet on the Cadet was a aesthetic crime of the highest order!

The Cadet III was a budget amp, probably hence the Formica, however, the amp gave a good sonic performance.

I was at the release of the LS3/5a by Rogers, they used the Ravensbourne amp, I did not like the sound. However, later I had a pair driven by a pair of Quad II amps, nothing to complain with there. I now have vintage Chartwell LS3/5as.

Sherwood
21-08-2020, 21:04
The Cadet III was a budget amp, probably hence the Formica, however, the amp gave a good sonic performance.

I was at the release of the LS3/5a by Rogers, they used the Ravensbourne amp, I did not like the sound. However, later I had a pair driven by a pair of Quad II amps, nothing to complain with there. I now have vintage Chartwell LS3/5as.

My A75 MkII cost £150 in 1977. I think the Cadet 3 was about the same price adjusting for inflation. I think the Formica was a "design choice" rather than a cost saving measure!

Barry
21-08-2020, 21:07
Apart from the Formica clad sleeve, the other aesthetic blemish was the solitary screw head on an otherwise 'peaches and cream' fascia.

spendorman
21-08-2020, 21:10
The aesthetics never really bothered me, it was the sonic performance that was important to me.

The best amp that I have come across is a Williamson built by my uncle in the original Rogers factory in the early days of Rogers. It's probably a lot more ugly than a Cadet III, but boy, does it sound good.

Barry
21-08-2020, 21:13
A friend of mine had one, so I can vouch for the sonic performance.

Sherwood
21-08-2020, 21:14
I see that a "working" Cadet 3 was recently on eBay for £800!

I hope it wasn't the one I gave away when I went overseas in the 90's!!