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Paul-H
11-05-2020, 20:58
Hi all

Going through a box of old documents for my various Hi-Fi items got me wondering.
One of my CD players a Pioneer PD-4300 bought new in 1988 is still going strong after 32 years of quite heavy use and never been repaired, and never missed a beat.

Is it doing well or quite common for an 80's CD player to still be working, most of the 90's players I know of with my friends etc all died within 5 years, were the original players better or am I just lucky.

Paul

Kit1cat
11-05-2020, 22:02
I am still using a Philips CD 850 from about the same time period.

gsq4848
12-05-2020, 09:45
I’ve started using a NAD 5420 in my upstairs room; like many people, I’ve been working from home for a few weeks. So you could refer to it as my office system!

I think the NAD goes back to the late 1980’s


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mikeyb
12-05-2020, 12:45
Marantz CD52 SE here.

Not used in anger for years but still working fine last time it tried it a few months ago. Bought around 1991 after we were burgled and I lost all my record collection, went CD with the insurance money.

walpurgis
12-05-2020, 13:09
My Meridian 507 was bought new around 2002, but my Trichord 'Digital Turntable' transport is considerably older, as are the couple of Pioneer PD-S505 Precision players I have. I like them all equally and they sound just fine to me. I only use the players as transports.

Macca
12-05-2020, 13:11
Marantz CD54 - it will be thirty six years old this year.

Mr.Ian
12-05-2020, 16:04
My 2 system has a 1989 version cd50 which i picked up for a fiver, as long as its played a few times a year itd fine. Bit hit and miss while it warms up if its been left for months without use

gninnam
12-05-2020, 17:53
My oldest is a Technics SL-PJ28A - from '92
Still a youngster at 28 years young

CageyH
12-05-2020, 19:27
My Pioneer PD-S703, probably bought around 1994 after winning the What HiFi awards.
It was partnered with a Kenwood KS3020SE amplifier, which also won a What HiFi award in the same year.

megabit
12-05-2020, 21:13
My old Akai cd m88 is still going strong in the hands of my brother, I bought it for £400 in 1984 from a hifi shop in the hyde park area of Leeds after being on a trip to Leeds railway station where they had a demonstration of this new technology, the only choice at that time was a Philips 104 or the Akai and the Akai grabbed me as the best, so off to the phone box and rang around till I found one and went to buy it, then off to HMV in Leeds to be alarmed at the small selection of cd's and bought 3 cd's can only remember one of them Tears For Fears - Songs From The Big Chair, when I first played it I thought it was brilliant...makes me realise how old I am and still as impatient when I want something...LOL

mannypr551
14-05-2020, 12:25
My sony 507es cdp is from 1988 never been repaired and still going strong .

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Barry
15-05-2020, 11:37
My current Sony CDP930, Revox C221 and Levinson ML390S all still work perfectly.

Previous Sony and Philips 104 players have gave up the ghost (usually caused by dry joints and overheating, due to over-compact design)

glennc
24-05-2020, 08:11
I have a rare Fergusson CD 01 which i purchased from Radio Rentals as a spotty tennager back in 1985, in the loft at the moment but worked fine last time i used it about a year ago (after a warm up period).

Macca
24-05-2020, 08:57
I have a rare Fergusson CD 01 which i purchased from Radio Rentals as a spotty tennager back in 1985, in the loft at the moment but woked fine last time i used it about a year ago (after a warm up period).

Interesting one, don't know if you have seen this article? https://www.hifinews.com/content/ferguson-cd-01-cd-player

hifinutt
25-05-2020, 21:48
Rotel 965 , only about 25 years old I think !

Lurch
26-05-2020, 19:15
Currently have a Phillips CD600 in my 2nd system (a full on 80s rig) also have a Marantz CD63 SE both work great but don't know their ages or when they 1st came out.

Mr. C
27-05-2020, 15:49
Wadia 6 circa 1992 full functional and never been apart (miracle with me!) , still sound decent as well

anthonyTD
28-05-2020, 12:00
Sony CDP-65 in my workshop, still going strong! :)

mik_rik
07-06-2020, 18:52
I have a Sony cdp-101 which worked the last time it had a run out.

vinylsnail
11-06-2020, 08:08
I still have and use a mission DAD5, which must be from around 1992. It was a clearance ‘bargain’ at £199 reduced from £299.


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guy
11-06-2020, 09:34
Not the oldest here but an Arcam Alpha 7 ('97/98?) - still looks and sounds good imo

andyrlb
11-06-2020, 10:32
Musical fidelity cdt valve cd player


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cpjvej2012
12-06-2020, 20:56
Erm, A Technics SLP-28A ... sitting in my loft hasn't been used for around 3 years! But was perfect last time it was in my system!

Frazeur1
13-06-2020, 12:01
The CD player inside of my Naim Uniti, about 10 years old now. Not an oldie or relic really compared to so many here....

aleksandar0475
21-10-2020, 21:00
I am still using an 1985. AKAI CD A70 vintage CD player. Amazing machine. Never repaired :)
35 Years so far.

Batty
26-10-2020, 03:41
I have a 1990 Sony CDP 390 still running like new.

Pete The Cat
30-10-2020, 13:40
I have a Toshiba which was a Christmas present in 1989 which still plays fine although I only play it once in a while when I'm in the garage. It's a rebadged Philips.

I'm still running a 1999 Linn Karik III + Numerik in my main rig. Legend has it that one ran daily on the QEII for 15 years. It has disliked a couple of discs in the last year but is otherwise fine in regular use.

Pete

Dylanthecat
09-11-2020, 11:34
I have a few early ones including an MF Delta 170 Transport and a Mission PCM 7000, both near new and working well. Still revert to these players despite newer high end players. Martin

loonytunes
09-11-2020, 12:49
Good question - I have a Philips CD100 which is working - it was working from the start about 3 years ago, I just had it recapped as a precaution to increase its longevity. So I guess this doesn't count.

Nowadays I stream 99% of the time so the player does not get much use - however the streaming transport connects to an old Arcam Black Box 1 which has never been serviced and works perfectly well (I have two of them). Again does not count I know.

Primare
28-01-2021, 15:18
This is my Pioneer P-D1. The first CD player of the brand, year 1983. It's part of the series Z for Japan market only. Works OK especially with older CDs. Doesn't like some of the new. I have it since 2018. Don't have information if there were some repairs before. Like it a lot:)

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chartz
28-01-2021, 17:00
Philips CD582 from 1988 (just a drawer belt).

Tom Brooks
28-01-2021, 19:45
Hello! I have been using the Denon DCD-600NE for a long time. I bought it on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Denon-DCD-600NE-Vibration-Resistant-Channels-PMA-600NE/dp/B07XQXQKB3/ref=zg_bs_172557_2/146-7962805-6379915?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BS89792JNARDCA72B0P0). I really like him. The price corresponds to the quality.

nudgebutton
30-01-2021, 12:07
my sons still using my old Marantz cd63se....got it new mid nineties I guess!!

hifinutt
02-02-2021, 22:44
Rotel 965bx , well over 25 years old in constant use

KAWASAKI ADDICT
07-02-2021, 06:52
CD52 mk2se, from 92. Still sounds good, and I've bought mostly Marantz players since. Currently an SA8005.

MindRise
12-03-2021, 20:04
My only CDP, Cary CD-308 (non tube version). I don't remember exactly but I'm sure I bought it before 2005 and it's the only CDP I have used ever since. The salesman said it had low hours from a collector with lots of gear who hadn't used it much. It worked for me because I couldn't afford it new. I expected years ago for the lazer to stop working but it still works.

Us-&-Them
04-03-2022, 22:27
Pioneer P-D70; one of the very first Pioneer players from around 1982/3. Never been repaired. A bit slow to light up sometimes and also sometimes doesn't read CD's straight away. Once warmed up, usually plays OK. Doesn't like some of the newer modern CD's as it sometimes freezes or glitches. I still love it though :)

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Macca
05-03-2022, 07:38
That's a good-looking player.

eatapeach
05-03-2022, 07:58
my sons still using my old Marantz cd63se....got it new mid nineties I guess!!


same player here - they got excellent reviews at the time. Never had a screwdriver to it, still works flawlessly.

Us-&-Them
05-03-2022, 12:36
That's a good-looking player.

Thank you :-) It is rather nice, I wish I knew of someone/somewhere who could service it (perhaps give it a recap etc) for me (at a sensible price); i even still have the genuine Pioneer service manual and schematics for it.

The Black Adder
05-03-2022, 14:34
Mine is nothing so grand but even so, try to find something today built to the same spec, mechanically, and you'd be looking at a lot of money, if anything exists like it. It's a Trio DP-700. It was my fathers and he bought it in 1984. The only thing I had to do was clean the lens once with a Qtip.

It's a full metal job, hardly any plastic.

Apparently, it uses a TD6705AP DAC with a Toshiba OPH-32 pickup.

Still sounds great.

I was going to sell it once but glad I didn't. It's like a family heirloom now.

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struth
05-03-2022, 15:23
Ive still got an old Denon cd player somewhere that was still working well last time i used it. Not sure where it is tbh but apart from a cigarette or soldering iron burn(before i got it) it was a super player. I'd think it late 80's early 90's, but not sure

Pharos
05-03-2022, 18:06
What pisses me of is that now we have to pay ££££££££££s to get what approaches good engineering quality, I suppose largely because the technology changes so much that it is not worth doing properly for an indeterminate market.

In the 70s there were, and still are great Jap amps, beautiful fascias albeit aluminium, with lovely knobs and controls and good performance and specs. Many of these are still very worthy.

When my AVI CD player goes phut, (It is not really very high end), I will have to look at very expensive ones unless I go to the low end and accept it as a consumer commodity.

It is against my instinctual nature to not have good quality long lasting and serviceable things in any area.

Macca
05-03-2022, 19:30
I like those old Jap amps too but if you allow for inflation they were a lot of money back then.

1978 a Luxman L80V 50wpc was £270 that's £1648 today, i,e more than a month's take-home pay for most people.

I bought a DAC and Cd transport both brand new, total just over £500. Build quality is adequate and it's cheap enough to replace one or t'other when they eventually fail.

Us-&-Them
05-03-2022, 19:49
I like those old Jap amps too but if you allow for inflation they were a lot of money back then.

1978 a Luxman L80V 50wpc was £270 that's £1648 today, i,e more than a month's take-home pay for most people.

I bought a DAC and Cd transport both brand new, total just over £500. Build quality is adequate and it's cheap enough to replace one or t'other when they eventually fail.


I like those old Jap amps too; trouble is, they aint cheap to replace!! and to be fair, I think the build quality is superb as a lot of them have solid aluminium fronts, big toroidal transformers etc. Where could you buy that kind of build quality today without paying a big premium!!!! My Pioneer amp (built in 1978/9ish is excellent and sounds wicked (100 x 100w)............ love it :D :D

Macca
05-03-2022, 20:14
Yeah, proper Pioneer from before they changed the logo.

That flagship Jap stuff from late 70s to early 90s has always kept its value. If it hadn't I'd own more of it!

Pharos
05-03-2022, 21:49
In about '71 my Quad 33 was about £75, and I was earning about £2k a year,

Loz, your title reminded me of how my family, based on earlier English would correct me when I said "them" to "they".
To adhere to this Victorian inheritance your title would be; "We and They" - weird to hear.

Us-&-Them
05-03-2022, 22:31
In about '71 my Quad 33 was about £75, and I was earning about £2k a year,

Loz, your title reminded me of how my family, based on earlier English would correct me when I said "them" to "they".
To adhere to this Victorian inheritance your title would be; "We and They" - weird to hear.

Yes, the local colloquialisms are quite funny aren't they. If I were to write as I speak (in my local accent and pronunciation) I think you might be struggling to understand (depending on where you're from) me correctly; I guess it'd be like me going to Geordieland Up North or Glasgow in Scotland, I'd be struggling to understand them (especially when they're full on in their native tongue). :scratch:

It's even funnier when you consider my mom was a college lecturer for 40yrs (retired now) and she was (and still is) very fussy about grammar, grammer, pronunciation, spelling and all associated things. :rolleyes: Oh well, she's used to me now so its tough :lol:

Us-&-Them
05-03-2022, 22:39
Yeah, proper Pioneer from before they changed the logo.

That flagship Jap stuff from late 70s to early 90s has always kept its value. If it hadn't I'd own more of it!

Yeah! Luckily I got mine when they were what I consider to be "affordable." Anything up to and including the Elite range - all really good. In fact a lot of other Japanese hi-fi manufacturers made really good stuff in their early days - Technics, Sony, Kenwood, Sansui etc. You dont see a lot of the new stuff made over the last 10-15yrs lasting very long............ built NOT to last!!

Lawrence001
07-03-2022, 19:23
Toshiba XR-J9 made in 1986. Nice little top loader, still going strong and occasionally used for headphone listening.

I thought it was 14 bit but can't find anything online to verify this.

Have been meaning to list it in the classifieds for years but never got round to it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220307/4b974688d9753664472fd3c06a3b3e43.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220307/7dfc260cf5a271dc762238ec9d06b248.jpg

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Lawrence001
07-03-2022, 19:25
I have a Sony cdp-101 which worked the last time it had a run out.I wonder if anyone can beat that for age...

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Barry
07-03-2022, 19:58
Given the specified dynamic range (84dB), the number of bits (N) can be calculated from:

Dynamic range(dB) = 6.021*N - 1.763

Thus N = 13.66. So call it 14 bit in round numbers.

Barry
07-03-2022, 20:04
I wonder if anyone can beat that for age...



Years ago, when I was showing an interest in CDPs, I heard a Philips CDP-101, which considering the concept was jointly developed by Philios and Sony, would probably have had a similar sound. It wasn't that good, especially compared to vinyl replay, so I awaited the Philips 104 machine - which was (just about) acceptable.

I ought to add I heard a Philips 100, which was awful!