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RobbieGong
13-04-2020, 16:06
My SP10 MKll - sound is simply fabulous, vinyl replay at its best.
The SP10, in my experience is a high precision, true hi-fidelity, vinyl spinning machine, which fully deserves its legendary status, as such ;) Yes! I'm a happy bunny :D
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Wakefield Turntables
13-04-2020, 16:12
Rob, what's the isolation plinth made from, looks like some kind of stone???
AJSki2fly
13-04-2020, 16:12
Looks lovely Robbie, did you make the plinth?
RobbieGong
13-04-2020, 16:30
Hi Andy, the isolation platform is 12mm acrylic I believe - nice stuf.
Hi Adrian and thanks! The panzerholz plinth was made by The Don himself, Angus Phonomac, I gave him my desired plinth dimensions, he made it and put everything together.
A lot of work has gone into doing it right, not only for the SP10 motor/platter but the EPA-250 tonearm as well. I've been round it, under it - top work from the man as always, he covered all bases and doesnt cut corners, so electronics are checked, replaced, improved etc !
I'm tired through late night going through tunes, still going through my fave, familiar albums as we speak - will have to force myself away at some point......
Wakefield Turntables
13-04-2020, 16:42
You might eek a little more performance out of the deck by swapping acrylic with Panzerholz or Permali and getting a similar platform made for the PSU. I'd be looking at what the other components on your rack could be adding into the deck and trying to further isolate them from your deck and the deck from the stand your using. You might also want to try four permali + ball-bearing footers underneath the feet of your hi-fi rack. I've used similar tactics myself and got a small but nice improvement.
RobbieGong
13-04-2020, 17:06
Sounding fab Andy so not gonna mess at the mo. Tapped the plinth deliberately, a few times already, not a hint of feedback or distortion
Might consider sticking the psu on some of these, which were under my amp - very nice Panzerholz vibration dampers, but pricey, hence i've only ever had the one set.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PatheWings-AVS-Vibration-Damping-Spikes-Shock-Absorber-Vibrations-Suppressor-3/252426239630?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3ac5c6be8e:g:ykAAAOSwepJXYX2a&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWYc%2BYkGOBNLh IVDENFGeGbKKVjzckc1Xh7rgFR7uUI2ETT%2F7mIB8ssy4k2Hx q9HghatJ0z7uV8EuWSEUjPUBEc4e6ZHbCVQ4FBYRV3iCgTyXHk zWjZ2Yac0c%2BTObN3MfqVkY4OC80TaJxuC9eOTMNxBE6vQywz S4Vb5vztsNU2xsPHnJKLEM%2BC7QEavDXCbIIc72wdjLAwDqKK eKDtN7Kj%2FhvNTyDQHciW%2BBwKV71OZsnWmS%2BwcS%2B1Yu UkXmHsYtSWd%2BkB%2FNfLXxszr4rMbgUTZze3brUO39TnjHx8 6Cv0rSkyB7L2Brb4XzGcCI%2FG84%2FexL6RuYEDj6YJs0dTBR s3vW8lzRs9C2w8ktGFd8GkiTz062bhYKzj6yUprRKh8ceFvT%2 Bh9MqKS%2BnLWtzdzvOanYTBaEVtKzaSBQcmlX9tBf1Dir5KHj 9NSnaLR64eQBJKTlt1YRzvEfJvOsEWZDDLKI0dwCLrImbf30N1 G5pM0XjXnqA7I%2Fgb9i3EDbq8MVAysAZAACITNFpIB7tu%2Fs 5qmHS1Y7bRyeqAw%2FrOP7lxSAotPAuV5mr3CKZnYG5N%2F4D6 zNFos7mciI2K5R%2FPcpZl%2FQHGqt2uad%2FOnvBEWD%2F9qW yTrt19G0oVYAwqm95xwoXVbWYrHydj25GsLlgCAwWuwIikVupA 98J8VDEgFZ%2BwiR7oEqXepo2dpycTT%2F6PgTl2bawWkL0auW r5IJAtajef%2B6gYPPcrA52GisSgsn5JNvndazgNdY70pXpECS hp4AI%3D&checksum=252426239630bbcc097e8deb496894677b16ed042 01f
Wakefield Turntables
13-04-2020, 17:29
Sounding fab Andy so not gonna mess at the mo. Tapped the plinth deliberately, a few times already, not a hint of feedback or distortion
Might consider sticking the psu on some of these, which were under my amp - very nice Panzerholz vibration dampers, but pricey, hence i've only ever had the one set.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PatheWings-AVS-Vibration-Damping-Spikes-Shock-Absorber-Vibrations-Suppressor-3/252426239630?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3ac5c6be8e:g:ykAAAOSwepJXYX2a&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWYc%2BYkGOBNLh IVDENFGeGbKKVjzckc1Xh7rgFR7uUI2ETT%2F7mIB8ssy4k2Hx q9HghatJ0z7uV8EuWSEUjPUBEc4e6ZHbCVQ4FBYRV3iCgTyXHk zWjZ2Yac0c%2BTObN3MfqVkY4OC80TaJxuC9eOTMNxBE6vQywz S4Vb5vztsNU2xsPHnJKLEM%2BC7QEavDXCbIIc72wdjLAwDqKK eKDtN7Kj%2FhvNTyDQHciW%2BBwKV71OZsnWmS%2BwcS%2B1Yu UkXmHsYtSWd%2BkB%2FNfLXxszr4rMbgUTZze3brUO39TnjHx8 6Cv0rSkyB7L2Brb4XzGcCI%2FG84%2FexL6RuYEDj6YJs0dTBR s3vW8lzRs9C2w8ktGFd8GkiTz062bhYKzj6yUprRKh8ceFvT%2 Bh9MqKS%2BnLWtzdzvOanYTBaEVtKzaSBQcmlX9tBf1Dir5KHj 9NSnaLR64eQBJKTlt1YRzvEfJvOsEWZDDLKI0dwCLrImbf30N1 G5pM0XjXnqA7I%2Fgb9i3EDbq8MVAysAZAACITNFpIB7tu%2Fs 5qmHS1Y7bRyeqAw%2FrOP7lxSAotPAuV5mr3CKZnYG5N%2F4D6 zNFos7mciI2K5R%2FPcpZl%2FQHGqt2uad%2FOnvBEWD%2F9qW yTrt19G0oVYAwqm95xwoXVbWYrHydj25GsLlgCAwWuwIikVupA 98J8VDEgFZ%2BwiR7oEqXepo2dpycTT%2F6PgTl2bawWkL0auW r5IJAtajef%2B6gYPPcrA52GisSgsn5JNvndazgNdY70pXpECS hp4AI%3D&checksum=252426239630bbcc097e8deb496894677b16ed042 01f
Well done, sit back and enjoy the fruits of your labours.
Sounding fab Andy so not gonna mess at the mo. Tapped the plinth deliberately, a few times already, not a hint of feedback or distortion
Might consider sticking the psu on some of these, which were under my amp - very nice Panzerholz vibration dampers, but pricey, hence i've only ever had the one set.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PatheWings-AVS-Vibration-Damping-Spikes-Shock-Absorber-Vibrations-Suppressor-3/252426239630?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3ac5c6be8e:g:ykAAAOSwepJXYX2a&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWYc%2BYkGOBNLh IVDENFGeGbKKVjzckc1Xh7rgFR7uUI2ETT%2F7mIB8ssy4k2Hx q9HghatJ0z7uV8EuWSEUjPUBEc4e6ZHbCVQ4FBYRV3iCgTyXHk zWjZ2Yac0c%2BTObN3MfqVkY4OC80TaJxuC9eOTMNxBE6vQywz S4Vb5vztsNU2xsPHnJKLEM%2BC7QEavDXCbIIc72wdjLAwDqKK eKDtN7Kj%2FhvNTyDQHciW%2BBwKV71OZsnWmS%2BwcS%2B1Yu UkXmHsYtSWd%2BkB%2FNfLXxszr4rMbgUTZze3brUO39TnjHx8 6Cv0rSkyB7L2Brb4XzGcCI%2FG84%2FexL6RuYEDj6YJs0dTBR s3vW8lzRs9C2w8ktGFd8GkiTz062bhYKzj6yUprRKh8ceFvT%2 Bh9MqKS%2BnLWtzdzvOanYTBaEVtKzaSBQcmlX9tBf1Dir5KHj 9NSnaLR64eQBJKTlt1YRzvEfJvOsEWZDDLKI0dwCLrImbf30N1 G5pM0XjXnqA7I%2Fgb9i3EDbq8MVAysAZAACITNFpIB7tu%2Fs 5qmHS1Y7bRyeqAw%2FrOP7lxSAotPAuV5mr3CKZnYG5N%2F4D6 zNFos7mciI2K5R%2FPcpZl%2FQHGqt2uad%2FOnvBEWD%2F9qW yTrt19G0oVYAwqm95xwoXVbWYrHydj25GsLlgCAwWuwIikVupA 98J8VDEgFZ%2BwiR7oEqXepo2dpycTT%2F6PgTl2bawWkL0auW r5IJAtajef%2B6gYPPcrA52GisSgsn5JNvndazgNdY70pXpECS hp4AI%3D&checksum=252426239630bbcc097e8deb496894677b16ed042 01f
interesting,im thinking of something similar for my tt. what are the dimensions robbie? i could have a go at knocking some up.
RobbieGong
13-04-2020, 21:41
Hi Jamie, The dimensions are in the link and match exactly what I have, so:
Height - 21mm
Diameter - 56mm
Audio Al
14-04-2020, 03:39
:youtheman::wow::wow::youtheman::drool::thumbsup:
Ali Tait
14-04-2020, 07:51
Very nice!
Not jealous at all. :D
Looks bloody fab mate. like a beautiful piece of Japanese furniture with the exposed panzer on the plinth sides. Ive gone for a similar look on my articulating armboards but with ebony veneer on top.
I just know that will be one of the best sounding spinners you are ever likely to come across . Nice work
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RobbieGong
14-04-2020, 11:59
Thanks Karl and hope you're keeping well.
As you likely know, I love and appreciate the application of wood in hi-fi, both aesthetically and sonically.
That Santos rosewood you have there is gorgeous too - beautiful finish !
baguadao
14-04-2020, 12:19
A JOY to behold. Grand and stately looking.
Below the Plinth is a slab of marble. I understand Indian granite is dense.
Usually most prefer for whatever reason Obsidian marble which seems to be the originl base. I dont own any of this but I had a lesser model SL1210mk5 whch I sold off as I didnt have the time for the dedication.
Must have brought you hours of immense pleasure.
Some very dedicated isolation devices I noitce. Happy listening !
Beautiful deck Robbie, I'd be proud to own one like that so you must be over the moon.
RobbieGong
14-04-2020, 16:52
A JOY to behold. Grand and stately looking.
Below the Plinth is a slab of marble. I understand Indian granite is dense.
Usually most prefer for whatever reason Obsidian marble which seems to be the originl base. I dont own any of this but I had a lesser model SL1210mk5 whch I sold off as I didnt have the time for the dedication.
Must have brought you hours of immense pleasure.
Some very dedicated isolation devices I noitce. Happy listening !
Thanks Ying, Yeah, you're right, hifi does indeed take time and dedication, not for everyone as it can be hard to fit it in with everything else going on in life sometimes, I totally understand.
RobbieGong
14-04-2020, 16:55
Beautiful deck Robbie, I'd be proud to own one like that so you must be over the moon.
Cheers David, Delighted in a word, it's been a lot of learning, juggling, sacrifice, patience, pain, frustration - you name it, all rolled into one so I'm very grateful.
:thumbsup:
Beautiful deck and arm there Robbie, Not having seen one of these before what is that an isolated button on the plinth? And what is the clamp/weight you have there (Looks nice)?
RobbieGong
14-04-2020, 17:36
:thumbsup:
Beautiful deck and arm there Robbie, Not having seen one of these before what is that an isolated button on the plinth? And what is the clamp/weight you have there (Looks nice)?
Thank you Paul!
The 'isolated button on the plinth' is in fact the stylus guard - the deck was in full action when I took the pics :D
The record weight is Pathewings Panzerwood. They do different weights as well 290g, 360g and 470g. Was love at first sight, hence I sold the weight I had at the time to fund this one :)
I thought I'd been a bit indulgent price wise at the time but hey ho, was a treat to myself, had to have it.
Came across this the other day :eek: a looker but made me realise I'd done good.....;) https://homemedialimited.co.uk/product/clearaudio-statement-record-clamp/
graham67
14-04-2020, 19:52
That looks gorgeous Robbie and looks fantastic with that arm.😻
RobbieGong
14-04-2020, 20:25
That looks gorgeous Robbie and looks fantastic with that arm.��
Cheers Graham! This thing is full of delights and the arm is no exception, it feels and looks quality as well as having some really nice features / little touches - the way they use to do things....
I was always going to match the SP10 with one of the good vintage Technics arms, with their on the fly vta - a deal breaker for me, no question.
I've always expressed my thoughts and love of the Technics vta system. It is a must/vital for me in terms of the stylus profiles i choose and nailing that sweet-spot via vta adjustment, really really not easy to do without this, as in my experience that 'right window' is very narrow and dialling in via on the fly is a gem of an aid towards achieving that, again, in my experience.
Its ease of use in that regard is priceless! worth it's weight in gold, simply because only once you've nailed that sweet-spot, is when the joy really begins ! :)
baguadao
16-04-2020, 04:23
Hi Robbie,
I notice you have a rare vintage of Pioneer PD91.
Does its operation give any problem at all. Heard so much about it. It seems to be more rare than a Marantz CD94mkII
Would be interested to know your Ups and Downs along the journey with this Classic whenever you are free.
Thank you.
RobbieGong
16-04-2020, 17:53
Hi Robbie,
I notice you have a rare vintage of Pioneer PD91.
Does its operation give any problem at all. Heard so much about it. It seems to be more rare than a Marantz CD94mkII
Would be interested to know your Ups and Downs along the journey with this Classic whenever you are free.
Thank you.
Hi Ying, I'll reply here https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?67471-Pioneer-PD-91-Vintage-CDP&p=1156701#post1156701 and keep this thread SP10 :)
Congrats Robbie, looks beautiful! Please tell a bit about this particular tone arm? It's not the original EPA-100 I see from your signature, but its not a SL-1200 variant either?
RobbieGong
11-09-2020, 19:59
Congrats Robbie, looks beautiful! Please tell a bit about this particular tone arm? It's not the original EPA-100 I see from your signature, but its not a SL-1200 variant either?
Sincere apologies for late response Mike, only spotted this the other day and been meaning to reply.
In a nut shell this tonearm is fab in my experience.
It was one of Technics arms for their 'upper' decks so SP15, SP25, SP10....
The arm tube is detachable, the whole thing feels and looks quality.
The on the fly vta adjust is fab and even more precise than that on the standard SL12XX
It was always going to be an arm with on the fly vta for my SP10 MK2, due to the stylus profiles I love/use, which are fussy $£$£% when it comes to set up, so being able to dial in the narrow sweet-spot with an arm like this is a must / essential assist.
The only one downside I can speak of is that unlike the standard arm on the 12XX's, which came later, there is no vta lock which is such a shame and inconvenient.
As a result the arm pillar can lower slightly with use over time, which is a pain after you've spent a lot of time, pain and effort nailing the vta sweet-spot, loving the music, only to find that suddenly the presentation sounds a bit off and to find it's because........
Lovely arm, all said and done though to answer your question :)
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