View Full Version : Bill Gates did he cause COVID 19?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ3Bdi0FZeM
Just something to think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA8OfBblifU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU5Vu7XBpzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gltrleEFkiE
Audio Al
12-04-2020, 05:32
:doh:
Made in 1968
12-04-2020, 05:35
Nothing worse than bollox
Yatsushiro
12-04-2020, 05:50
Just something to think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA8OfBblifU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU5Vu7XBpzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gltrleEFkiE
Dude, wtf are you smoking?
Based on your previous postings, may I suggest you pray harder to be blessed with the intelligence required to spot misinformation when you see it?
Dude, wtf are you smoking?
Based on your previous postings, may I suggest you pray harder to be blessed with the intelligence required to spot misinformation when you see it?
I just wonder why Bill Gates has been so involved in Corona viruses since 2015 ?
I am not saying everything in these videos are true,I leave that to the listener. But I find it odd that after years of wanting to reduce the human population to a minimum .
He suddenly wants to save millions?
I think it is important to look at different opinions and these videos certainly give that. (John Masters is also just fun to watch.) Even if he is just Bullox.
Audio Al
12-04-2020, 18:30
:doh::doh:
Shovel_Knight
14-04-2020, 16:01
I often wonder what it is that makes people believe all kinds of bullshit.
Must be some defect of the mind.
I tried reading YouTube comments under official government videos about COVID-19, in about 15 minutes I learned that it's caused by 5G, that Chinese developed it in their secret laboratories and set it free to cripple the rest of the world, and that Illuminati led by George Soros and Bill Gates will control the humanity because their COVID-19 vaccine will be full of nano machines invented to turn people into biorobots.
All those people must be on drugs or just really really stupid. On the other hand, as one of my university professors used to say, "just imagine how dumb the average person is, but the truly scary fact is that half of the population is even dumber than that!"
I tried reading YouTube comments under official government videos about COVID-19, in about 15 minutes I learned that it's caused by 5G, that Chinese developed it in their secret laboratories and set it free to cripple the rest of the world...
...including of course THEMSELVES. Me thinks I spy a flaw in that dastardly plan;)
*Unless* of course.... They [whoever "they" in China are] have already been successfully vaccinated by Gates-o and Georgie-boy?:hmm::eek:
However, I do agree with the sentiments behind the quote from your university professor, and which right now is most apt...
Marco.
I often wonder what it is that makes people believe all kinds of bullshit.
Must be some defect of the mind.
I tried reading YouTube comments under official government videos about COVID-19, in about 15 minutes I learned that it's caused by 5G, that Chinese developed it in their secret laboratories and set it free to cripple the rest of the world, and that Illuminati led by George Soros and Bill Gates will control the humanity because their COVID-19 vaccine will be full of nano machines invented to turn people into biorobots.
All those people must be on drugs or just really really stupid. On the other hand, as one of my university professors used to say, "just imagine how dumb the average person is, but the truly scary fact is that half of the population is even dumber than that!"
I imagine just how dumb the average university professor is ,and then I imagine how dumb his students must be for paying 55,000 dollars a semester to listen to him rant off about how bad America is .
I simply put some videos up to what is going around the net. I have not bought in. I will still never trust Bill Gates or anyone connected to him. I once read Bill Sr. and Jr. have promoted the idea of a small master race of 100,000 people . I don't have a sorce for this but I'll look.
That doesn't include most of us. Bill Sr. and Margret Sanger started plan parenthood in Black neighborhoods to reduce the population of Blacks in America.
And that is fact.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/
https://tradistae.com/2020/01/20/abortion-racist-eugenics/
Shovel_Knight
14-04-2020, 19:07
:rolleyes:
InThe Sticks
14-04-2020, 19:24
I often wonder what it is that makes people believe all kinds of bullshit.
Must be some defect of the mind.
Religion is a good start to understanding that.
Although i wouldn't say its a defect.
Mmm... Careful now!;)
Marco [a religious person and believer in God, but not a believer in "all kinds of bullshit"].
Shovel_Knight
14-04-2020, 22:26
Well, religion is a well established belief system that is at least somewhat logical. I know many smart and intelligent people who are also religious to some extent.
To clarify: I was talking more about those who readily believe in random nonsense.
My wife's brother is like this, he watches a video by some loonie on YouTube and it becomes his next big idea. I'm pretty sure he now spouts this Bill Gates/COVID-19 bullshit as well. Thank God I cut off all communications with him years ago, his incoherent ramblings, while sometimes amusing, quickly become tiresome.
Sure, Pavel, but I was referring more to Jon's remarks:)
Marco.
Sorry, but what a load of bollocks - Bill Gates has given millions away. If he were some sort of megalomaniac/Bond villain surely he would be buying up gold stocks before releasing a virus on the world (perhaps even setting up a base on Mars for his associates before releasing the virus).
Why can't people just accept that he is a very far sighed person who saw flaws in our preparedness for some sort of pandemic.
Sure... He is, however, set to substantially gain financially, potentially probably WAY more than he would've done from any return from buying gold stocks, through sales of the vaccine for this virus, when it's rolled out to the worldwide population, and which I believe is being produced by companies all owned and controlled by him.
Just something else to throw into the mix for consideration, that's all.....
Maro.
Johnny nocash
15-04-2020, 02:11
I don't know how covid started but I know it can only be passed on by people.
Exactly the same as religion.
They are both deadly, but one has killed considerably more.
Sure... He is, however, set to substantially gain financially, potentially probably WAY more than he would've done from any return from buying gold stocks, through sales of the vaccine for this virus, when it's rolled out to the worldwide population, and which I believe is being produced by companies all owned and controlled by him.
Just something else to throw into the mix for consideration, that's all.....
Maro.
Follow the $$$$$.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/what-we-do/global-health/vaccine-development-and-surveillance
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-gates-covid-19-crisis-2015-pandemic-prediction-1289983
Event 201
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
Just a thought , create a virus ,let it loose and then say I found a cure? Maybe I am just to old to believe all this was just coincidence.
There is no proof, but something about this stinks to me. Maybe it is normal for 3 different strains A,B,and C. to appear in different areas of the globe. I'm not a Epidemiologist.
I don't even know if I believe it myself ,I just wanted to share what people are talking about and get opinions but it seems no one has even considered the possibility for the 1st time in history the world has stopped and shuttered their doors over something someone who has talked about depopulation has predicted and found the possible cure for and ran a simulation of this virus in New York . Sound like fate ?
Then there is this. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/ and this. https://blackcommunitynews.com/melinda-margaret-sanger-gates-hands-black-family/
I have no way of knowing 100% the truth but I keep hearing this over and over and can't easily discount it.
Sorry, but what a load of bollocks - Bill Gates has given millions away. If he were some sort of megalomaniac/Bond villain surely he would be buying up gold stocks before releasing a virus on the world (perhaps even setting up a base on Mars for his associates before releasing the virus).
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Mars is too far away, he's much more likely to use an orbiting space station ('cloaked' ofc) or a lair hollowed out underneath a volcano. With a monorail. I know I would.
Pigmy Pony
15-04-2020, 07:40
Mars is too far away, he's much more likely to use an orbiting space station ('cloaked' ofc) or a lair hollowed out underneath a volcano. With a monorail. I know I would.
"You expect me to believe all this nonsense?"
"No, Mr. Pony, I expect you to die"
walpurgis
15-04-2020, 07:45
I don't know how covid started but I know it can only be passed on by people.
Exactly the same as religion.
They are both deadly, but one has killed considerably more.
I thought the virus was believed to have started in animals?
And I'm sure people can be relied upon to kill each other without needing religion as a justification.
"You expect me to believe all this nonsense?"
"No, Mr. Pony, I expect you to die"
''Choose your next 'Goldfinger' quote carefully mister Pony, it may be your last''
Pigmy Pony
15-04-2020, 08:06
''Choose your next 'Goldfinger' quote carefully mister Pony, it may be your last''
:D :D
I thought the virus was believed to have started in animals?
And I'm sure people can be relied upon to kill each other without needing religion as a justification.
Maybe in time the virus will become a religion? I for one welcome our new viral overlords.
Yatsushiro
15-04-2020, 10:13
Sure... He is, however, set to substantially gain financially, potentially probably WAY more than he would've done from any return from buying gold stocks, through sales of the vaccine for this virus, when it's rolled out to the worldwide population, and which I believe is being produced by companies all owned and controlled by him.
Source(s)?
Pigmy Pony
15-04-2020, 11:27
Source(s)?
I too wondered about that one. If indeed a vaccine is being produced that's got to be good news :)
Another interesting read.
https://thediplomat.com/2020/04/did-xi-jinping-deliberately-sicken-the-world/
Despite myself I read, my Bad.
Goramon...Oh dear.
We hear this a lot nowadays...?
"A lot of people say...there might be a thing....possibly bigger than anyone else has ever seen."
...etc.
(and I have God on my side)
Look to History.
It times of uncertainty, always those who look to take advantage.
Its our DUTY to be smart about these things...its happening in real time...and some unfortunate Souls are easy taken advantage of.
You only get once chance to do the right thing when its happening...no point looking at History and saying well if I was there I'd have done it differently.
You are here. Right now.
History is a great Teacher, if you don't listen to it...?
Buckle up, and its on you for not paying attention.
InThe Sticks
15-04-2020, 19:59
Dude, go take a walk, get some fresh air and feel the sun on your skin.
Basically, do something else other than posting bullshit conspiracy theories.
Remember when you accepted that licence agreement for Windows XP? You didn't read the small print, did you? It said right there that you agreed to be infected with COVID-19, and also be implanted with a tracking chip when you got the vaccination! :doh:
He's still on Windows 95.
Isn’t it ironic when an utter bell-end like Trump is openly lying to the faces of Americans and getting away with it on a daily basis, that people look so hard for these “hidden conspiracies”?
If folk want to see the greatest danger to the world today, they need look no further than The White House. Sadly a load of these conspiracy theory nutters voted for him and will probably do so again.
Watch this video, it's an absolute belter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=y8cp1KvZKPo&feature=emb_logo
Jeff will LOVE it!;)
Marco.
AJSki2fly
16-04-2020, 11:24
Watch this video, it's an absolute belter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=y8cp1KvZKPo&feature=emb_logo
Jeff will LOVE it!;)
Marco.
Well I suspect there are elements of truth in that those in power do things to protect their position and control over society around them, how corrupt and interlinked it is between organisations and individuals is a big question. The argument that Trump is the saviour of society is somewhat amusing and that everyone against him is corrupt is rather extreme to say the least. If there is a global secret organisation controlling all of us then is a big secret, perhaps SPECTRE really does exist. :D
Jeff May love it Marco, cool.
But hey, he’s a whack job.
(IMO) Jeff if your listening, happy to hear anything that’ll change my opinion, (hate thinking bad of anyone Amigo, know you have a family..a worrying time for any Dad)
Too many people out there Marco that will believe anything they read on the Internet..just saying Man, a laughs a laugh sure, but be sensitive to those a bit less well enforced in the security of their own thoughts.
Mental healths a real thing, and any Crisis in a storm and there’s those that will happily add to others anxiety for their own jollies.
No disrespect man, just sayin’
My fave bit was the shot of poor old Queen Lizzie, as she was labelled a criminal. Reminded me of the time David Icke accused the Queen Mother of eating live babies.
Anyone turning to Trump as their saviour does deserve our pity though.
I have heard about Q for the last 5 years from my older brother who sends me links that are way ,way out there .
I do know the history of the Gates ,Sanger activism, You are in the U .K. an have no idea how, why or who started plan parenthood or what it was used for.
There where plenty here in the Southern U.S. that believed in Eugenics. Not just the KKK.
I don't believe any of the Q stuff what so ever. Just to be clear .
I am suspect of super wealthy people who claim that there are far to many people in the world and we need to reduce the population down to near 0. Then offer vaccines to save everyone.
Sorry, I am not so trusting but that dose not make me crazy. I do get at least 30 links a day sent to me and I put some up because they are widely viewed and discussed others for entertainment.
Malinda Gates pretty much says South Africa is producing to many Black people.
https://c-fam.org/friday_fax/bill-gates-thinks-many-africanscalls-population-control/
Is this really that far out. https://creativedestructionmedia.com/analysis/2020/03/31/how-coronavirus-was-started-and-spread-globalisms-hail-mary-pass/
What they are saying is wealthy, educated people have far less children so the solution to overpopulation is education and wealth creation.
Which is correct, if you look at countries that have gone from poverty to wealth quite rapidly, South Korea for example. China now following that trend too.
Whether over-population is really as big an issue as they make out is up for debate. Personally I'm not convinced it is.
Obviously if you think contraception and abortion are wrong you're probably not going to go along with the idea. It has nothing to do with eugenics though, that's not what they are pushing. Contraception and abortion is not the same as eugenics.
When you create in America a organization that puts free abortion clinics only in Black neighborhoods to specifically reduce one Race of people.
Collect contributions from groups like the KKK. When this was actually their mission statement . What else could it be?
Learn who she was. This is in her own words .
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2017/11/27/margaret-sanger-was-eugenicist-why-are-we-still-celebrating-her
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/articles/bc_or_race_control.php
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/webedition/app/documents/show.php?sangerDoc=129037.xml
Before she died her goal was to sterilize the whole of Africa , Sterilization through Vaccination was the goal. Still is.
She was an American Hitler!
walpurgis
18-04-2020, 08:18
free abortion clinics
Perhaps they are situated in areas where birth control is wilfully disregarded?
When you create in America a organization that puts free abortion clinics only in Black neighborhoods to specifically reduce one Race of people.
Collect contributions from groups like the KKK. When this was actually their mission statement . What else could it be?
Learn who she was. This is in her own words .
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2017/11/27/margaret-sanger-was-eugenicist-why-are-we-still-celebrating-her
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/articles/bc_or_race_control.php
https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/webedition/app/documents/show.php?sangerDoc=129037.xml
She was an American Hitler!
What's the connection with Margaret Sanger and what Bill and Melinda Gates are saying now though? Yes, Eugenics was mainstream thought in the 1930s in America and in some European countries, but that was a long time ago.
Isn't the reason for the free abortion clinics because there is no free abortion in America, so people who want an abortion but can't afford it end up having more children they cannot afford to raise?
And because the majority of people who can't afford it happen to be from ethnic minorities that's who the free clinics are aimed at. Because they are poorer - on average - than the Caucasians due to historical reasons that were no fault of their own. There's not much point in putting the free clinic in Beverly Hills is there?
You just have to read the links to understand, clinics where strategically placed to reduce the number of unwanted Races and Idiots.
The link is ,Bill Gates Sr. who joined the board and continued the plan of Margaret Sanger ,the mass plan to sterilize Blacks, and those with disabilities.
To increase the most intelligent and reduce the least to 0 . Go back to my previous post and read the links from NY University, they are her very own writings .
Her mission statement. In her words! Bill Gates Sr. served on the board . The Negro project is still active in Africa and India.
Sterilization of Africa and selective targeting in the U.S. There where a lot of Rich Nazi sympathizers here in our own Aristocracy. Large Auto Manufacturers and firearm manufacturer ,some oil companies for example all funded this idea. https://www.catholicstand.com/eugenics-in-america/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/
The Negro project continues on. https://www.modernghana.com/news/890100/bill-gates-thinks-too-many-african-calls-for-popul.html
https://kichuu.com/bill-gates-depopulate-africa-save-europe/
You just have to read the links to understand, clinics where strategically placed to reduce the number of unwanted Races and Idiots.
The link is ,Bill Gates Sr. who joined with Margaret Sanger ,the mass plan to sterilize Blacks, and those with disabilities.
To increase the most intelligent and reduce the least to 0 . Go back to my previous post and read the links from NY University, they are her very own writings .
Her mission statement. In her words!
I did read the links but I still don't see the connection with what Gates (Jr) is talking about in the modern day. He's not advocating compulsory sterilization or compulsory abortions or anything like that.
The only reason that ethnicity comes into it is because in USA you are more likely to be poor and poorly educated if you are from certain ethnic minorities. So it stands to reason that family planning efforts would be aimed mainly at that demographic. Family planning is not eugenics.
Perhaps they are situated in areas where birth control is wilfully disregarded?
Margret Sanger was against abortion, for healthy whites.
In fact she wanted whites to increase in numbers.
COVID 19 mabey next time it will be Ebola.
https://kichuu.com/bill-gates-accused-starting-ebola/
Whether its Covid ,Ebola Zika Virus notice a common thread ? Yep, Bill Gates is right in the thick of it.
Maybe I am Crazy ? But what if I'm not?
https://thegoodnewstoday.org/bill-gates-faces-trial-in-india-for-illegally-testing-tribal-children-with-vaccines/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-india-sued/
https://steemit.com/life/@pranavsinha/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-kicked-out-of-india
Not that I trust China either.
I did read the links but I still don't see the connection with what Gates (Jr) is talking about in the modern day. He's not advocating compulsory sterilization or compulsory abortions or anything like that.
The only reason that ethnicity comes into it is because in USA you are more likely to be poor and poorly educated if you are from certain ethnic minorities. So it stands to reason that family planning efforts would be aimed mainly at that demographic. Family planning is not eugenics.
Where ever there is poor / uneducated people The Gates foundation shows up with some magic injection. Who decides the level of education and money you must have to reproduce ?
Links in #46. Did 77,000 Indian girls have a choice?
Where ever there is poor / uneducated people The Gates foundation shows up with some magic injection. Who decides the level of education and money you must have to reproduce ?
Links in #46. Did 77,000 Indian girls have a choice?
That's about vaccination for cervical cancer though, not birth control. Completely separate issue. And again it's nothing to do with eugenics.
People who have education and money on average have less children. That's a fact. The individual still chooses how many children to have. It's just that if they have education and money they mostly choose to have less children. But no-one is deciding that for them.
cervical cancer is a nasty thing/ my wife had it
I did read the links but I still don't see the connection with what Gates (Jr) is talking about in the modern day. He's not advocating compulsory sterilization or compulsory abortions or anything like that.
The only reason that ethnicity comes into it is because in USA you are more likely to be poor and poorly educated if you are from certain ethnic minorities. So it stands to reason that family planning efforts would be aimed mainly at that demographic. Family planning is not eugenics.
Me neither.
Bill Gates Jnr is a completely different human being.
Are YOU the same person as your Father...your Uncle..your Son?
Of course not.
Look to what the Gates Foundation has done for Malaria.
Also,
They have just given $150 million worldwide for Coronavirus relief effort around the world.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/493106-gates-foundation-puts-another-150-million-towards-global-coronavirus
(https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/493106-gates-foundation-puts-another-150-million-towards-global-coronavirus)
Doesn't really play along with the narrative...does it?
Seriously,
I'm not qualified enough to understand what these Conspiracy Theorists get out of it, but I really wish they would wake up and start smelling what they are shoveling.
Shovel_Knight
18-04-2020, 13:11
COVID 19 mabey next time it will be Ebola.
...
Whether its Covid ,Ebola Zika Virus notice a common thread ? Yep, Bill Gates is right in the thick of it.
I have it on good authority that he's also responsible for the Plague of Justinian.
I'm not qualified enough to understand what these Conspiracy Theorists get out of it, but I really wish they would wake up and start smelling what they are shoveling.
There is a theory that some people tend to feel uncomfortable with the idea that the world is a fairly random, chaotic place and that really anything could happen to them or people they care about at the drop of a hat. Consequently believing that everything happens for a reason, particularly bad or negative things, is of some psychological comfort. This is also observable in religion 'It's all part of God's plan' being a common palliative to console someone who has been bereaved or had a similar misfortune.
The idea that bad things only happen because they are willed so by a small group of 'generally 'bad' or 'evil' people is a similar consolation. For example the idea that a small group of madmen could hijack planes and fly them into buildings as on 9/11 is discomforting, Madmen could be anywhere, anyone, there's no defence.
Whereas the idea that it was a deliberate, premeditated act by the US government in pursuit of a wider agenda is actually psychologically comforting. The US government is defined, it exists, it can be pointed to. It may be evil but it is not random or anonymous and can therefore be combatted and stopped and then we can all live in a world of unicorns and rainbows.
Likewise with C-19 virus. The idea that such a virus, or even in the future a much more deadly one could just emerge out of nature and kill millions is unsettling. Deciding that in fact it is all part of a deliberate plot or plan, or even that it was a biological weapon that escaped is a more comfortable scenario. Evil men can be found and stopped, biological warfare research can be stopped or have better safeguards put in place. Essentially something can be done. But in the nature scenario nothing can be done, there is no possibility of control.
walpurgis
18-04-2020, 13:36
Well there's this.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/62399/what-is-the-illuminati-and-what-does-it-control
Perhaps the Darwinian human need for certainty, and how we sometimes feel psychologically stronger for identifying with a strong belief or Group. (Ref: Religion)
Short version:
It doesn't make you factually correct.
Interesting take Martin.
Damn our Ape brains :)
There is a theory that some people tend to feel uncomfortable with the idea that the world is a fairly random, chaotic place and that really anything could happen to them or people they care about at the drop of a hat. Consequently believing that everything happens for a reason, particularly bad or negative things, is of some psychological comfort. This is also observable in religion 'It's all part of God's plan' being a common palliative to console someone who has been bereaved or had a similar misfortune.
The idea that bad things only happen because they are willed so by a small group of 'generally 'bad' or 'evil' people is a similar consolation. For example the idea that a small group of madmen could hijack planes and fly them into buildings as on 9/11 is discomforting, Madmen could be anywhere, anyone, there's no defence.
Whereas the idea that it was a deliberate, premeditated act by the US government in pursuit of a wider agenda is actually psychologically comforting. The US government is defined, it exists, it can be pointed to. It may be evil but it is not random or anonymous and can therefore be combatted and stopped and then we can all live in a world of unicorns and rainbows.
Likewise with C-19 virus. The idea that such a virus, or even in the future a much more deadly one could just emerge out of nature and kill millions is unsettling. Deciding that in fact it is all part of a deliberate plot or plan, or even that it was a biological weapon that escaped is a more comfortable scenario. Evil men can be found and stopped, biological warfare research can be stopped or have better safeguards put in place. Essentially something can be done. But in the nature scenario nothing can be done, there is no possibility of control.
walpurgis
18-04-2020, 14:00
And there's absolutely no truth in the suggestion that Adolph Hitler was secretly spirited away to the Vatican just before the end of WW2 by the Rosicrucians and placed in cryogenic supension, where he still is, being quarded by devotees of Nostradamus (the Cosanostradamus), until such time as he can be resurrected for curing of the then terminal Parkinsons Disease he had developed. The hope being that he could one day, when the world is on its knees, lead the Illuminati and worthy elite few out of famine and pestilence to world domination (presumably along with Donald Trump).
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AJSki2fly
18-04-2020, 14:05
And there's absolutely no truth in the suggestion that Adolph Hitler was sectretly spirited away to the Vatican just before the end of WW2 by the Rosicrucians and placed in cryogenic supension, where he still is, being quarded by devotees of Nostradamus (the Cosanostradamus), until such time as he can be resurrected for curing of the then terminal Parkinsons Disease he had developed. The hope being that he could one day, when the world is on its knees, lead the Illuminati and worthy elite few to out of famine and pestilence to world domination (presumably along with Donald Trump).
:rfl:
Stratmangler
18-04-2020, 15:01
I think Donald's people are putting lysergic acid diethylamide into the water supply in Neo-Socialist Kalifornski - it would certainly explain the crackpot theories.
It would also explain the paranoia and revelatory ramblings.
I think Donald's people are putting lysergic acid diethylamide into the water supply in Neo-Socialist Kalifornski - it would certainly explain the crackpot theories.
It would also explain the paranoia and revelatory ramblings.
As Bernard Manning would say...
It’s a fucking disgrace.
I have it on good authority that he's also responsible for the Plague of Justinian.
None of these would outweigh his unleashing Windows Vista on the world.
None of these would outweigh his unleashing Windows Vista on the world.
:rfl:
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Shovel_Knight
21-04-2020, 10:24
When I read this article in NYT I immediately thought about this thread.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/technology/bill-gates-virus-conspiracy-theories.html
Stratmangler
21-04-2020, 13:11
When I read this article in NYT I immediately thought about this thread.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/technology/bill-gates-virus-conspiracy-theories.html
I mentioned Donald's boys monkeying about - it looks like that's exactly what has been taking place.
anthonyTD
21-04-2020, 13:36
I find it helps to be open minded, when presented with alternative versions of world events, otherwise we run the risk of becoming permanently Cynical! :doh:
Although i do accept that there is an awful lot of diss-information out there, especialy concerning the current situation, but i am also of the belief that there can often be an element of truth in even the most bizarre of stories! :)
I find it helps to be open minded, when presented with alternative versions of world events, otherwise we run the risk of becoming permanently Cynical! :doh:
Indeed... And as they say, if you want to discover the truth in any matter, look somewhere in the middle of the two extremes of views!;)
What annoys me about those who hate 'conspiracy theories', and are always pooh-poohing them, is that do they automatically dismiss them as 'nonsense' because they're considered as unhelpful and distort the truth (create 'fake news'), or moreover because they make them consider often unpalatable/uncomfortable things that they'd rather not consider, far less wish to believe...
The former is acceptable, but the latter isn't, as it simply succeeds in distorting the truth in a different and more dangerous way. Me? I'd rather know the truth, even if it's terrible and not what I want to hear, as that way I'm living in the REAL world, as opposed to la-la land, and therefore less likely to encounter any 'nasty surprises' in future!!
Sometimes in life it's necessary to step outside of your comfort zone, challenge your belief system and consider the seemingly 'ridiculous' or unthinkable, if you want to know what's *actually* happening in the world we live in - and unfortunately getting to that truth sometimes requires the need for experiencing some discomfort...
One thing's for sure: burying your head in the sand, trying to hide from (perhaps) an awful reality, certainly won't do you any favours in the long term!
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-04-2020, 19:33
Indeed... And as they say, if you want to discover the truth in any matter, look somewhere in the middle of the two extremes of views!;)
What annoys me about those who hate 'conspiracy theories', and are always pooh-poohing them, is that do they automatically dismiss them as 'nonsense' because they're considered as unhelpful and distort the truth (create 'fake news'), or moreover because they make them consider often unpalatable/uncomfortable things that they'd rather not consider, far less wish to believe...
The former is acceptable, but the latter isn't, as it simply succeeds in distorting the truth in a different and more dangerous way. Me? I'd rather know the truth, even if it's terrible and not what I want to hear, as that way I'm living in the REAL world, as opposed to la-la land, and therefore less likely to encounter any 'nasty surprises' in future!!
Sometimes in life it's necessary to step outside of your comfort zone, challenge your belief system and consider the seemingly 'ridiculous' or unthinkable, if you want to know what's *actually* happening in the world we live in - and unfortunately getting to that truth sometimes requires the need for experiencing some discomfort...
One thing's for sure: burying your head in the sand, trying to hide from (perhaps) an awful reality, certainly won't do you any favours in the long term!
Marco.
Has it occurred to you, that the "reality" we live in, you know the one that you routinely reject, may well be the middle of two extremes, which could well be promoted by the far right, the far left, or just plain far-out.
As no one (so far) has seen fit to answer my repeated question about what we are to do with these conspiracy theories/truths, I may as well just poke fun at it. Admittedly some things have a ring of truth about them, a certain logic, and that's how they get you. If you are at all gullible or dissatisfied/uncomfortable with the "reality" as presented you are more prone to radic,. ,l;[p]-That "truth, and ultimately history, will be
Anything is possible, muchacho.... My point is to always be willing to think outside of the box, question/challenge the 'accepted norm' and explore ALL credible avenues of possibility, rather than simply those that appease your sensibilities - and to answer your question - that also applies to so-called 'conspiracy theories'.
Some may be just that, others may deserve being afforded more credibility, and actually result in exposing information that the 'powers that be' didn't want you to know... As I said, the truth often lies somewhere in between the extremes.
Crucially as Anthony says, scepticism is healthy; eternal cynicism isn't! So ALWAYS keep an open mind:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-04-2020, 20:05
Indeed... And as they say, if you want to discover the truth of any matter, look somewhere in the middle of the two extremes!;)
What annoys me about those who hate 'conspiracy theories', and always pooh-poohing them, is that do they hate, and thus automatically dismiss them, because they're considered as unhelpful and distort the truth (create 'fake news'), or moreover because they make them consider [often unpalatable/uncomfortable things] that they'd rather not consider, far less wish to believe...
The former is acceptable, but the latter isn't, as it simply succeeds in distorting the truth in a different and more dangerous way. Me? I'd rather know the truth, even if it's really bad and not what I want to hear, as that way I'm living in the REAL world, as opposed to la-la land, and therefore less likely to encounter some 'nasty surprises' in future!!
Sometimes in life it's necessary to step outside of your comfort zone, challenge your belief system and consider the seemingly 'ridiculous' or unthinkable, if you want to discover the truth and what's *actually* happening in the world we live in - and so getting to that truth sometimes requires the need for experiencing discomfort...
One thing's for sure: burying your head in the sand, trying to hide from (perhaps) an awful reality, certainly won't do you any favours in the long term!
Marco.
Could it possibly be, that the "reality" we live in, you know the one that you routinely reject, may well be the middle of two extremes, both of which could well be promoted by the far right, the far left, or just plain far-out.
As no one (so far) has seen fit to answer my repeated question about what we are to do with these conspiracy theories/truths, I may as well carry on doing what I already do, which is nothing, apart from laugh at some of the more bizarre ones. And some of them really are funny. I used to have a work colleague who blamed everything that was wrong with the country on the government, the police, wealthy people, and Muslims. My laughter just made him worse, and only served to get me on his shitlist, next to the above mentioned :(
Admittedly some things have a ring of truth about them, a certain logic, and that's how they get you. If you are at all gullible or dissatisfied/uncomfortable with the "reality" as presented you are more prone to radicalisation.
I don't believe anyone on this forum, or any other Joe Bloggs out there know, or ever will know, the "truth". The truth, and ultimately history, will be what ever those in charge decide it will be. And that's not me burying my head in the sand. I'm just enjoying a walk on the sandy beach while I can :)
I've just answered your question, daftee, so why quote me again, essentially just to say the same thing? Have I touched a raw nerve?:ner:;)
Oh, and I fundamentally disagree with this:
If you are at all gullible or dissatisfied/uncomfortable with the "reality" as presented you are more prone to radicalisation.
Whilst I understand where you're coming from, ultimately I believe the opposite. It's not about being "uncomfortable with the reality", but rather not being afraid to analyse things differently from others, thus forming views from an alternative (and potentially more accurate) perspective.
Having an open and FREE mind, and being able to think 'outside of the box'/see the bigger picture, can sometimes get you closer to the truth [often hidden by those 'in charge' with an agenda and nefarious intent], which in turn makes you less susceptible to being brainwashed by them!
*That*, for me, is the key thing here - and we should be focussing more on that, rather than just rubbishing everything that challenges our belief system, offends our sensibilities or makes us feel uncomfortable about the possible reality.
Btw, this doesn't mean that I believe all the info contained in Jeff's links, but it's information that deserves to be 'out there' for consideration as much as anything else.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-04-2020, 20:35
I seem to have posted the same thing twice (almost). Probably due to me trying to watch the Yorkshire Vet at the same time :D
Yesh, you should know by now that you're too old to multi-task!:D;)
Decent programme that, btw, although I haven't watched it in ages.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-04-2020, 21:02
I've just answered your question, daftee, so why quote me again, essentially just to say the same thing? Have I touched a raw nerve?:ner:;)
Oh, and I fundamentally disagree with this:
I believe the complete opposite. It's not about being "uncomfortable with the reality", but rather not being afraid to look at things differently from others. Free-thinking/having your own mind often gets you closer to the truth [often hidden by those 'in charge' with an agenda], which in turn makes you less susceptible to being brainwashed!
Btw, this doesn't mean that I believe all the info contained in Jeff's links, but it's information that deserves to be 'out there' for consideration as much as anything else.
Marco.
Ah, so post #69 was a reply to me, I thought you were replying to Anthony! I don't know how I managed to put up my first, unfinished post :(
Did the bit I put in about gullibility/dissatisfaction touch a raw nerve? :ner:
I consider myself to be quite a free thinker, and of course I'm free to think that much of this stuff is a load of bollox. Some may have some truth, but we may never know. I reject the argument that anyone who doesn't question EVERYTHING that is put before them is blinkered. It's just that there are so many theories vying for your attention. And there is so little time and so much music and films out there. Bottom line is that we may have better things to do with our time, by which I mean things we'd rather do. :)
Anyway, what we gonna do about it all? :popcorn:
Pigmy Pony
21-04-2020, 21:07
Yesh, you should know by now that you're too old to multi-task!:D;)
Decent programme that, btw, although I haven't watched it in ages.
Marco.
I'm probably too old for single tasks too I just haven't told my body yet :D
I consider myself to be quite a free thinker, and of course I'm free to think that much of this stuff is a load of bollox. Some may have some truth, but we may never know. I reject the argument that anyone who doesn't question EVERYTHING that is put before them is blinkered.
Not so much blinkered, but perhaps sometimes allowing their eternal cynicism to prevent them from seeing the truth.
For me, anyone who considers that everything that the government or mainstream media tells them, in reference to this pandemic or otherwise, is true, is as guilty of gross naiveté as the believers in 'conspiracy theories' are of being deluded!
And in terms of this Covid-19 thing, too many of us appear to be guilty of precisely that, and just automatically swallowing everything that we're being told, rather than drilling into the details and challenging their veracity - and I've always been someone who'll do that, and won't simply just sit back and 'accept' what those in charge state [and want us to believe] as fact.
For me, that's a health mentality to have, not the opposite... As one of my old teachers used to say: never stifle an enquiring mind!:)
Anyway, what we gonna do about it all? :popcorn:
Group sex in my garden? All are welcome, even farm animals. 6pm tomorrow evening. Bring your magnifying glass, tweezers and wellies with you.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
21-04-2020, 21:26
And some DVDs of The Yorkshire Vet. Lots of barnyard genitalia :)
Talking of which, have you seen the one entitled: '147 novel uses for a donkey's walloper, a moist flange with marvellous muscle control, and a pair of ping-pong balls'?
It's a must-see in 4K. Anita would love it.
Marco.
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