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RobbieGong
29-03-2020, 11:49
Just wanted to say, be encouraged, be of good courage and lean on HE who is greater. Almighty God, The author of all creation, who is supreme and sovereign over all things.
Jesus told us we would have troubles and boy did he know, BUT he told us to be of good cheer, even during difficult times..... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+16%3A33&version=KJV
and not to worry https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A25-34&version=NIV
Remember, Nothing! absolutely nothing! can separate us from the love of God https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A35-39&version=KJV
This is some of the scripture from Paul's letter to the church in Rome. Paul who was once zealous to see believers put to death, but all that changed when HE met the risen Christ on the road to Damascus.
May I suggest, If you fancy an interesting read during isolation, I recommend reading about the life of Paul (Saul)..... https://www.gotquestions.org/life-Paul.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle
Have a blessed day :)
Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 12:07
:eek:
hifi_dave
29-03-2020, 12:37
Just wanted to say, be encouraged, be of good courage and lean on HE who is greater. Almighty God, The author of all creation, who is supreme and sovereign over all things.
Jesus told us we would have troubles and boy did he know, BUT he told us to be of good cheer, even during difficult times..... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+16%3A33&version=KJV
and not to worry https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A25-34&version=NIV
Remember, Nothing! absolutely nothing! can separate us from the love of God https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A35-39&version=KJV
This is some of the scripture from Paul's letter to the church in Rome. Paul who was once zealous to see believers put to death, but all that changed when HE met the risen Christ on the road to Damascus.
May I suggest, If you fancy an interesting read during isolation, I recommend reading about the life of Paul (Saul).....
Have a blessed day :)
Thanks for that Robert and stay safe.
brian2957
29-03-2020, 14:04
Yup , thanks Robert .
Hope you and everyone else is well and keeping safe .
God bless us all .
Spectral Morn
29-03-2020, 15:38
God Bless
Nice words and sentiments, Rob - and ones that at this time as a fellow Christian I would echo and extend to the whole AoS community:)
I may not currently be able to celebrate mass in person, but I can still watch the live streams from churches across the country* and pray at home. Therefore, my faith and love of God remains as strong as ever. Ultimately, it's what's in your heart that counts.
May the almighty God bless you, and everyone else reading, with a happy and healthy life.
* https://www.walsingham.org.uk/live-stream/
Marco.
InThe Sticks
29-03-2020, 21:37
As religion and politics are usually shut off pretty much instantly on forums, will this follow suit?
I'm only asking as i believe in what we can prove, and not fairies down the end of ones garden, or something imaginary in the sky that demands we live in a totalitarian society.
Don't shoot me down for this.
If anyone posts anything on the internet, then expect a reaction.
Theres no free lunch.
You're entitled to your beliefs, or otherwise, Jon, just as much as others are to theirs - and so as long as you respect that fact, there will be no problems. However, please refrain from using language such as: "fairies down the end of ones garden", to condemn the beliefs of others, as that *isn't* respectful.
Also, bear in mind the rules we have in place here for 'thread crapping' (on ANY subject), in that if you don't like or agree with a thread topic, then simply ignore it and concentrate your efforts elsewhere. Cheers!:)
Marco.
Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 21:52
Ive been a good boy with this particular topic
:D
Mikeandvan
29-03-2020, 22:02
Jesus saves.
RobbieGong
29-03-2020, 22:25
Jesus saves.
Some things you just know...
The other disciples had seen Jesus after his resurrection https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24%3A36-49&version=NIV
Thomas wasn't there at that time, so the other disciples told him what they had seen. However, he refused to believe it, telling them he would only believe if he saw Christ himself and the wounds in his hands and side....https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+20%3A25&version=KJV
Then Jesus appeared to him - read here https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+20%3A26-31&version=KJV
Blessed indeed is he who has not seen yet believes and hence the term, Doubting Thomas ....
Mikeandvan
29-03-2020, 23:00
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Lawrence001
30-03-2020, 00:14
I was brought up CofE and sang in the village church choir every Sunday. I haven't believed in God since my early teens at the latest.
I believe that religion came from Man's fear of death and the beyond and a desire to believe in a life after death, combined with the machinations of those who sought to seek advantage of these fears for their own gain.
HOWEVER, I also believe that our great country was built on Christian values and morals, and I have no time for rabid atheists and liberals who seek to take away the rights of Christians to express their views, or put other religions on an equal footing in this country. They are the people who risk damaging the moral fabric of our (once) great nation, not Christians. You don't have to believe in God to believe in the righteousness of (most of) Christian morality.
I was brought up CofE and sang in the village church choir every Sunday. I haven't believed in God since my early teens at the latest.
I believe that religion came from Man's fear of death and the beyond and a desire to believe in a life after death, combined with the machinations of those who sought to seek advantage of these fears for their own gain.
HOWEVER, I also believe that our great country was built on Christian values and morals, and I have no time for rabid atheists and liberals who seek to take away the rights of Christians to express their views, or put other religions on an equal footing in this country. They are the people who risk damaging the moral fabric of our (once) great nation, not Christians. You don't have to believe in God to believe in the righteousness of (most of) Christian morality.Well said
Audio Al
30-03-2020, 04:18
Each and every person has a choice re religion and good on you if you are a believer
However I am not a believer for many reasons , I wont start a massive debate , will just leave it here .
Some insightful comments there, guys, However, let's not turn this thread into a religious debate. It exists simply for folks to offer their heartfelt best wishes and intentions, religious or otherwise, to everyone at this very difficult time, so please respect that. Therefore if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. Ta:)
Marco.
Let's just remember before we all thank him, it's the omnipotent one who gave us the situation the world is in now.
Hat coat door
...and perhaps as punishment for how, for decades, man has been thoughtlessly and systematically destroying the planet! Look how, since the start of this outbreak, levels of pollution and carbon emissions, etc, have fallen rapidly, how air quality has improved and wildlife are thriving.
Hat, coat, scarf and jacket, door...:door:
;)
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200326-covid-19-the-impact-of-coronavirus-on-the-environment
Marco.
anthonyTD
30-03-2020, 10:02
:)
HOWEVER, I also believe that our great country was built on Christian values and morals, and I have no time for rabid atheists and liberals who seek to take away the rights of Christians to express their views, or put other religions on an equal footing in this country. They are the people who risk damaging the moral fabric of our (once) great nation, not Christians. You don't have to believe in God to believe in the righteousness of (most of) Christian morality.
I am now old enough to have been with a lot of people at their time of passing, Both people who believed and tried to follow God and Christ and those who spent their lives rejecting any kind of relationship with God.
In the end every single one has asked me to pray with them or over them. Go figure huh? So many times the same comments "I prayed but God didn't let my wife or husband live", God owes us nothing!
He created us and a perfect world for us. He saw we could not live a life with out sin, and sacrificed his only son to pay for our sins that separate us from him.
Our wants,needs and desires rarely have anything to do with Gods will but, when it dose those prayers do get answered. We are all loved by God and he often uses even very flawed people to do his will on Earth.
I believe he sometime dose this to make a point. A murderer turns around and leads people to God, seeks to help the family of the person he took from them. Our church spends a lot of resources going to prisons to bring people back to God. In the End of all of our lives what matters is are you moving closer to God or further away ? And He will ask "Do I know You"? and "what have you done to make me known"?
If you think God is not near us all the time and close by Just pray and ask him to work through you to do his will.
Before to long you will be called on maybe to help someone. Some one may invite you to a event or some life changing thing.
Because you are not putting any of your own conditions on it.
Giving up ones own self , having faith ,wanting God to show up in your life ,giving up ones own wants is key. Until you've done this you really don't know anything.
Another thing is blaming God for pain or suffering caused by us people. He gave us free will . Don't blame God for the sins of the world he gave everyone a choice and no one is guaranteed another day of life,each day is a gift .
He also gives us Mercy and Grace we can not earn, but must seek.
I have never seen die an atheist yet, a lot happens in your heart when you know you probably won't live to see the next sunrise.
Just food for thought. One of our pastors who is going to China and expets to die there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmKqD2FlFds
Let's just remember before we all thank him, it's the omnipotent one who gave us the situation the world is in now.
God gives us free will ,man did this, Man put us here. This virus is from mans own inhumanity .
Hat coat door Heaven help us.
Man did this not God, don't blame him he gave us free will.
Some very good/valid (and poignant) thoughts there, Jeff!:)
Marco.
Some very good/valid (and poignant) thoughts there, Jeff!:)
Marco.
It's just crazy Marco, sad people wait till their final hour then suddenly get it. Death bed conversions.
It's like oh, better rethink God all of a sudden,people trying to tell me my hole life and now I understand,then dead.
It's not much effort to give God though an hour or two a day, he will show up .Bayside church goes out and helps the community, it is a church that serves others.
One of our pastors just left for China to help them. He fully expects he will die there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmKqD2FlFds
Yatsushiro
31-03-2020, 14:18
We're Saved!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1244344119545208834
We're Saved!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1244344119545208834
Outstanding!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUTO9XDXsAIVb8L?format=jpg&name=small
Made in 1968
31-03-2020, 14:32
It's just crazy Marco, sad people wait till their final hour then suddenly get it. Death bed conversions.
It's like oh, better rethink God all of a sudden,people trying to tell me my hole life and now I understand,then dead.
It's not much effort to give God though an hour or two a day, he will show up.
Jeff im trying my very best here biting my lip. I can tell you 100% that Religion will not play any part in my life even on deaths door.
Yatsushiro
31-03-2020, 14:44
Jeff im trying my very best here biting my lip. I can tell you 100% that Religion will not play any part in my life even on deaths door.
Amen to that...
walpurgis
31-03-2020, 14:59
One of our pastors just left for China to help them.
What kind of help would that be? If he has no medical training he'll just be in the way.
Guys,
Please remember the thread-crapping rules we have in place. I don't mind a bit of goodnatured piss-taking or banter, but if I see any blatant or disrespectful anti-religion posts here they'll be quickly removed. This thread exists for people with a religious faith, or leanings that way, to comment and offer their sentiments on the current crisis.
As I said before, if you've got nothing nice (or constructive) to say on that topic, then say nowt, and apply the approach of 'nothing to see here, move on'. This is NOT the place to practice your anti-religious agendas.
Marco.
What kind of help would that be? If he has no medical training he'll just be in the way.
If the people he's seeking to help, mate, are religious (or have a faith), then he'll be of great help to them spiritually, and in terms of praying together with them, all of which would provide great comfort to the ill or dying.
Marco.
Audio Al
31-03-2020, 18:26
Going back decades , Farther Stephen from the local church quite often was away in Africa on " Missionary work "
;);) Say no more , Nice holiday if you ask me :)
Spectral Morn
31-03-2020, 18:35
Going back decades , Farther Stephen from the local church quite often was away in Africa on " Missionary work "
;);) Say no more , Nice holiday if you ask me :)
While I am not someone who favours missionaries, its hardly a holiday. Among people who have nothing, not even running water, working hard to help them on a practical level.
prestonchipfryer
31-03-2020, 19:15
My neighbour, who passed away two years past, was a tank commander in World War II. He was at El Alamein, Egypt and was the only survivor of his unit. He often talked of his experiences and it was horrific to hear how brave men died in horrible ways. Once when I was talking to him the subject of God arose. He said that on many occasions he would pray to God for help.
Obviously in his case it worked because he lived to the ripe old age of 98. I do find that people who diss the notion of religion to be short-sighted and mean in their piss-taking and I personally find it sad that they feel the need to descend into jokes made in very poor taste.
Sleep well and remember that there are many ''gods''.
Pigmy Pony
31-03-2020, 19:53
While I am not someone who favours missionaries, its hardly a holiday. Among people who have nothing, not even running water, working hard to help them on a practical level.
I used to print a quarterly magazine for the Jesuits doing missionary work, called not surprisingly, Jesuit Missions. Some of the "nice sunny" places they were sent to looked truly awful, disease, drought and famine commonplace. I wouldn't swap places with them :(
I used to print a quarterly magazine for the Jesuits doing missionary work, called not surprisingly, Jesuit Missions. Some of the "nice sunny" places they were sent to looked truly awful, disease, drought and famine commonplace.:(
Yep that's true we had them in Liverpool. Must have been the worst posting they could end up with.
RobbieGong
31-03-2020, 21:44
Heaven help us.
Man did this not God, don't blame him he gave us free will.
BINGO Jeff ! Was gonna say this at the time, (giving us free will in itself is a whole preach alone), but I held back..... and yep, God moves, even when we dont, hence....
Made in 1968
01-04-2020, 03:23
Sleep well and remember that there are many ''gods''.
Aye sex god loike. Women always fall to their knees for me :eyebrows:
Here is a quick test, are you worshiping the wrong person
Here are 2 names from the story book known as the Bible,
1. God
2. The Angel Lucifer
Which one is good and which one is evil
Discuss
What 'The Bible' is, is much misunderstood both by atheists and the religious.
Here is a quick test, are you worshiping the wrong person
Here are 2 names from the story book known as the Bible,
1. God
2. The Angel Lucifer
Which one is good and which one is evil
Discuss
No let's not. Paul, which part of my earlier request of "let's not turn this into a religious debate" did you not understand?
From earlier:
Some insightful comments there, guys, However, let's not turn this thread into a religious debate. It exists simply for folks to offer their heartfelt best wishes and intentions, religious or otherwise, to everyone at this very difficult time, so please respect that.
Next person to ignore that warning, or simply use this thread to take the piss, will be banned for a week without further notice.
Marco.
Firebottle
01-04-2020, 09:03
Whatever belief you have I always think of Dave Allen summing it up in the best way possible.
'May your god go with you'. Says it all really, take strength from your own belief.
Pigmy Pony
01-04-2020, 09:28
+1 :)
Audio Al
01-04-2020, 10:05
Woo Banned , Does that mean I can play the drums or sing :ner:
May not see you all for a week
Never wuz any good at speeling :)
Pigmy Pony
01-04-2020, 10:39
Woo Banned , Does that mean I can play the drums or sing :ner:
May not see you all for a week
Never wuz any good at speeling :)
You'll never know till you try - I'd start with something simple, like Leo Sayer's "I'm a One Man Banned" :)
hifi_dave
01-04-2020, 10:54
How did it end up like this ? Robbie posted something nice in the hope it would give us hope and it descends into nastiness.
Audio Al
01-04-2020, 11:15
You'll never know till you try - I'd start with something simple, like Leo Sayer's "I'm a One Man Banned" :)
:D
How did it end up like this ? Robbie posted something nice in the hope it would give us hope and it descends into nastiness.
Indeed, Dave, so some folks need to take a good look at themselves...
Marco.
How did it end up like this ? Robbie posted something nice in the hope it would give us hope and it descends into nastiness.
some folk only believe in certainties i guess, but alas insist the rest of us must do likewise
prestonchipfryer
01-04-2020, 12:31
How did it end up like this ? Robbie posted something nice in the hope it would give us hope and it descends into nastiness.
Well Robbie's post gave me a lift. It's always good to know that there are those who think of others when times get tough.
brian2957
01-04-2020, 12:35
Yup , me too :)
Everyone with or without religious beliefs should be afforded the same courtesy
If it's ok for one group to push theirs on others then the others should be allowed to push theirs back, to not do do is simple discrimination.
See you in a week
It’s ok not to believe in God.
I don’t, I take responsibility for myself.
Didn’t know or care where I was before I was born, don’t know where I’ll be after I pass.
All I know is the here and now, and I do my best, and prop up others that can’t.
As a “good person”, I’ll be noticed and taken care of, if not I’ll be dead anyway and I had a rewarding Life.
All good...
Might be surprised after I pop, who knows?
If so, cool.
Everyone with or without religious beliefs should be afforded the same courtesy
If it's ok for one group to push theirs on others then the others should be allowed to push theirs back, to not do do is simple discrimination.
See you in a week
No-one is 'pushing' anything, though. Rob (the OP) simply offered others his best wishes for good health and to stay safe in these unprecedented times, and expressed them in a religious way. It's was done simply through kindness and concern for his fellow man.
Therefore, I'd suggest that most reasonable people would react positively to that, and welcome it, rather than see it as an affront to their sensibilities.
Marco.
mad-moon
07-04-2020, 01:42
No-one is 'pushing' anything, though. Rob (the OP) simply offered others his best wishes for good health and to stay safe in these unprecedented times, and expressed them in a religious way. It's was done simply through kindness and concern for his fellow man.
Therefore, I'd suggest that most reasonable people would react positively to that, and welcome it, rather than see it as an affront to their sensibilities.
Marco.
:thumbsup:
mad-moon
07-04-2020, 01:49
I lost faith many many years ago..just too much shit in my life, one thing after another... I find it extremely difficult to believe. I can see though, how a lot of people have faith and find comfort in religion...My 24 year old daughter and her man, frequented chruch every Sunday, before this bloody virus hit... They are the youngest people there every Sunday. The church is frequentd by older people..much older...I asked my daughter what she gains by going to church and she replied, I don't know, but I get a feeling of calm when I come out after the service...
Made in 1968
07-04-2020, 13:00
I am fortunate enough to have been born in this world a Sex God. That'll do for me. Women worshipping at my feet, is a bit to much to bare at times, but i get through it
:eyebrows:
RobbieGong
07-04-2020, 13:10
I am fortunate enough to have been born in this world a Sex God. That'll do for me. Women worshipping at my feet, is a bit to much to bare at times, but i get through it
:eyebrows:
ya nut ! :lol:
Pigmy Pony
07-04-2020, 13:24
I am fortunate enough to have been born in this world a Sex God. That'll do for me. Women worshipping at my feet, is a bit to much to bare at times, but i get through it
:eyebrows:
It was just one woman. And she was pissed. And she wasn't worshipping, she was vomiting :(
I am fortunate enough to have been born in this world a Sex God. That'll do for me. Women worshipping at my feet, is a bit to much to bare at times, but i get through it
:eyebrows:
Was that a deliberate typo?:D;)
Marco.
RobbieGong
07-04-2020, 13:29
I think the whole post was a typo :D
Made in 1968
07-04-2020, 13:29
:D
hifinutt
07-04-2020, 13:32
Just wanted to say, be encouraged, be of good courage and lean on HE who is greater. Almighty God, The author of all creation, who is supreme and sovereign over all things.
Jesus told us we would have troubles and boy did he know, BUT he told us to be of good cheer, even during difficult times..... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+16%3A33&version=KJV
and not to worry https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A25-34&version=NIV
Remember, Nothing! absolutely nothing! can separate us from the love of God https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A35-39&version=KJV
This is some of the scripture from Paul's letter to the church in Rome. Paul who was once zealous to see believers put to death, but all that changed when HE met the risen Christ on the road to Damascus.
May I suggest, If you fancy an interesting read during isolation, I recommend reading about the life of Paul (Saul)..... https://www.gotquestions.org/life-Paul.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle
Have a blessed day :)
well said Robbie .... this is a horrendous time , may folks are beside themselves with worry about how to pay the bills , in a short while i will be massively increasing my life insurance !!!
One amazing thing is that church services are now on zoom and seeing over a hundred folks on your screen in their own homes , very moving in that many of them are consultants , front line Dr`s and GP`s and nurses , and you just appreciate them more and think , i hope they are still there next week !!
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