New council tax bill

[Made in 1968]

ffks gets worse every year. What get up my crack is they charge you £91.80 for Adult Social Care. Nothing you can do about it. So you are paying that every year even though there is a slim chance you will never need it. Taking the piss if you ask me.

[struth]

Got mine in too as chance would have it.. Well yesterday. Its been in quarentine for a day. Git rent increase too. Lol

[Macca]

ffks gets worse every year. What get up my crack is they charge you £91.80 for Adult Social Care. Nothing you can do about it. So you are paying that every year even though there is a slim chance you will never need it. Taking the piss if you ask me.

I think we're paying for all those getting it now. Because all the national insurance they earned was spunked up against the wall on some pointless shit the second they paid it in. As is ours.

death and taxes mate.

[ianlenco]

ffks gets worse every year. What get up my crack is they charge you £91.80 for Adult Social Care. Nothing you can do about it. So you are paying that every year even though there is a slim chance you will never need it. Taking the piss if you ask me.

Like the taxes you pay that supports the NHS, Police etc. Maybe you won't need that either. Could also mention education but I presume you have had the benefit of that although I have no evidence for it.

[Audio Al]

Dont forget the age old saying " Born to live ,taxed till you die "

[Marco]

ffks gets worse every year. What get up my crack is they charge you £91.80 for Adult Social Care. Nothing you can do about it. So you are paying that every year even though there is a slim chance you will never need it. Taking the piss if you ask me.

Try living in a listed building and paying for the privilege (in terms of the band you're put in)...;)

Marco.

[Audio Al]

]Try living in a listed building[/B] and paying for the privilege (in terms of the band you're put in)...;)

Marco.

Is it listed for demolition ? ;)

[Macca]

Try living in a listed building and paying for the privilege (in terms of the band you're put in)...;)

Marco.

Hurts your sale value too. I think the row of terraces I live in should be listed but I'm not going to do anything about it. Not because of the money thing, but just because I can't be arsed.

They've knocked down a lot of unique terraced houses here, that dated from late Victorian to Edwardian. And put up modern low rise flats that look like they landed from Mars. Criminal really.

[Marco]

Is it listed for demolition ? ;)

Ha - good one! No, that's your bedroom, daftee, as it never sees any 'action'! :lol:

Marco.

[Marco]

Hurts your sale value too...

Perhaps it might with some properties, but much would depend on how desirable the whole place was to the buyer, including the area.

Marco.

[Made in 1968]

Like the taxes you pay that supports the NHS, Police etc. Maybe you won't need that either. Could also mention education but I presume you have had the benefit of that although I have no evidence for it.

Rubbish this is a new thing to recoupe money on the sly

[Made in 1968]

Try living in a listed building and paying for the privilege (in terms of the band you're put in)...;)

Marco.

I would not mind paying the band im in but i resent paying this

[ceejaydee]

Seem to pay more each year and get less back.
Makes me laugh when the local council says it collects our garden waste for free as it is not included in the tax.... so what I pay must be for the missed bin collections and the waste they drop during their collections ;)

[Made in 1968]

I really understand folk like New age travellers that do not want to be part of the system cos The amount of money the Tax man, NI & Council take from you it often begs the question why do we bother working our nuts of day after day

[Paul-H]

Come the revolution

Either that or put up with it and keep voting for the same bunch and asking how far do you want me to bend over ;)

We are here to be screwed, that's the way its always been and the way it will always be.

After the revolution we will be screwed by the new lot, see any pattern here.

[Made in 1968]

O there is a pattern but its getting worse these days getting more screwed over. You see now why people that want to be on the dole. A bit of work on the side, they end up better off than the hard worker. Ever wondered why the benefit crew have cars, Mobiles, nice clothes & holidays.

[Paul-H]

You can't blame them can you, especially when the make it so easy for them to fiddle the benefits system, if you are that way inclined.

Although not everyone benefits from the benefits system, I have not worked for 20 years due to health reasons and don't get a penny from them.

And still pay full council tax, well the wife does

[RMutt]

My mate was on a TV programme where, as an expirement, his street didn’t pay council tax. Instead they had to provide all their own services from private companies etc. At the end they were all in agreement that the tax bill was good value.

[Macca]

No economy of scale with just one street though.

[ianlenco]

Over the last decade local authorities have had their core funding from government cut by £16 billion or 60p in every pound they used to get. So you wonder why Council Tax bills are goiing up while the quality of services are in decline? As to adult social care, its main purpose is to support vulnerable and frail adults to live as independent a life as possible. That includes people with learning difficulties and long term illnesses. So you begrudge help for these people and maybe respite care for young carers who support them? This is what makes our society a good place and if a few scroungers take advantage then so be it, it's a price worth paying.

[mad-moon]

Over the last decade local authorities have had their core funding from government cut by £16 billion or 60p in every pound they used to get. So you wonder why Council Tax bills are goiing up while the quality of services are in decline? As to adult social care, its main purpose is to support vulnerable and frail adults to live as independent a life as possible. That includes people with learning difficulties and long term illnesses. So you begrudge help for these people and maybe respite care for young carers who support them? This is what makes our society a good place and if a few scroungers take advantage then so be it, it's a price worth paying.

Well said Ian...:thumbsup:

[struth]

+2

[Made in 1968]

Since when is it my duty to finance that then? What happens when the next cuts come alone? I pay my own way for my own needs I have zero interest in everyone else.

[prestonchipfryer]

How selfish of you. :rolleyes:

[struth]

No man is an island

[Pigmy Pony]

No man is an island

What about Isle of Man?

[Made in 1968]

How selfish of you. :rolleyes:

Look after No.1. Learned that a long time ago..

[Marco]

So is it you buying up all the bog rolls??:D

Marco.

[mad-moon]

Look after No.1. Learned that a long time ago..

How did you manage all the years you weren't in full time employment. have you never relied on the benefits system in the past ???..are you and will you continue to be fit enough to work and if the shit hits the fan, how are you going to live?....Mr Me.. I find your comments on this matter highly offensive.

[Made in 1968]

O diddums

Nop i have been unemployed for less than 10 days in all my life. I had contribution based benefit in that time which is what i was entitled to [I think its 13 week max!]

Bunch of mugs if you ask me.

Tell you what come and pay my electric bill will ya.

[mad-moon]

O diddums

Nop i have been unemployed for less than 10 days in all my life. I had income based benefit in that time which is what i was entitled to thru my NI contributions i paid [I think its 13 days max!]

Bunch of mugs if you ask me.

Tell you what come and pay my electric bill will ya.

So you've been lucky enough to work most of your life, can pay your way, but are extremely unhappy, because of said fact...but put the shoe on the other foot and imagine just for one second of your perfect life, if you could not work for one reason or another, would you take advantage of the system so you could have some sort of existence and or quality of life????..

[Pigmy Pony]

Andre, I normally find your posts amusing, in a car-crash Jeremy Kyle sort of way, and your knowledge/experience of things vintage enlightening, but this Coronavirus is serious stuff, which quite a few AoS members and their loved ones are rightly concerned about. A bit more sensitivity wouldn't go amiss.

We should be pulling together at this time, not scrapping :(

[Firebottle]

^^^^^ +1

[ianlenco]

Look after No.1. Learned that a long time ago..

So why bother being a member of this community?

Over the coming weeks/months more and more people are going to have to rely on support from government at various levels. Would you begrudge them this? Chances are some members here will get ill and I hope they will look to AoS for some moral support at least. I'm guessing you would find even that difficult to provide.

[Marco]

Andre, I normally find your posts amusing, in a car-crash Jeremy Kyle sort of way, and your knowledge/experience of things vintage enlightening, but this Coronavirus is serious stuff, which quite a few AoS members and their loved ones are rightly concerned about. A bit more sensitivity wouldn't go amiss.

We should be pulling together at this time, not scrapping :(

Indeed...

So I'd like ALL input here from now on to reflect the above. If you don't have anything positive or constructive to say, then say nothing. Ta!:)

Marco.

[Made in 1968]

So you've been lucky enough to work most of your life, can pay your way, but are extremely unhappy, because of said fact...but put the shoe on the other foot and imagine just for one second of your perfect life, if you could not work for one reason or another, would you take advantage of the system so you could have some sort of existence and or quality of life????..

Is this like Going on Holiday all inclusive but just throwing the money away, not using the facilities, but its just in case i run out of dosh? My main argument is we never had to pay for this before.

[mad-moon]

No comment

[ianlenco]

Indeed...

So I'd like ALL input here from now on to reflect the above. If you don't have anything positive or constructive to say, then say nothing. Ta!:)

Marco.

If someone is being negative and destructive and I contradict them am I being positive and constructive? :) OK. I'll behave.

[Made in 1968]

You lot have got to understand that people are entitled to their own views. I learned to look after No.1 & trust no one because everyone ive trusted in the past has back stabbed me, You lot are actually showing your true colours [Behind a Keyboard as always] so you know why should i not look after myself. However people that know me know i am my own man, Not a YES man. Im breaking no rules so kindly put up with my view

[southall-1998_mk2]

You lot have got to understand that people are entitled to their own views. I learned to look after No.1 & trust no one because everyone ive trusted in the past has back stabbed me, You lot are actually showing your true colours [Behind a Keyboard as always] so you know why should i not look after myself. However people that know me know i am my own man, Not a YES man. Im breaking no rules so kindly put up with my view

Agreed.

S.

[Marco]

You lot have got to understand that people are entitled to their own views. I learned to look after No.1 & trust no one because everyone ive trusted in the past has back stabbed me, You lot are actually showing your true colours so you know why should i not look after myself. However people that know me know i am my own man, Not a YES man.[B] Im breaking no rules so kindly put up with my view

Yeah, I think that's a valid point, so I'd ask everyone to bear that in mind, as I know you're just being honest. However, in order to be fair, I also have to ask you to express your honesty a little more considerately, and in a less provocative way, liable to cause less offence to others who think differently.

It's called 'give and take' - and it applies here to *everyone* :cool:

Marco.

[mad-moon]

Seems to me that you have a problem with back stabbers, in turn becoming extremely defensive, and only believe in yourself. Well me being one of the "you lot" from "behind a keyboard as always" sincerely hopes that nothing befalls you, so you don't have to experience the well intentioned help, from anybody, however, should anything befall you, which I'm sure nothing will , the services that you need will be there, which I am sure of. atb Andre..Al...

[ianlenco]

You lot have got to understand that people are entitled to their own views. I learned to look after No.1 & trust no one because everyone ive trusted in the past has back stabbed me, You lot are actually showing your true colours [Behind a Keyboard as always] so you know why should i not look after myself. However people that know me know i am my own man, Not a YES man. Im breaking no rules so kindly put up with my view

Of course you are entitled to your views but given you have chosen to express them here isn't it also fair that people (like me) are allowed to express their views on what you have said? If I agreed with you I presume you'd have no problem. Incidentally adult social care has been the responsibility of local authorities long before you were born but it is only in recent years that it has been a requirement to show it separately on Council Tax bills.

[Marco]

Of course you are entitled to your views but given you have chosen to express them here isn't it also fair that people (like me) are allowed to express their views on what you have said?

100% Ian. However the key word is tolerance. Therefore, no matter how much you disagree with someone else's views, as long as they've been expressed politely, then you must show tolerance towards them, and if necessary, defend your contrary point of view with equal politeness.

*That* is how we expect everyone here to behave, on any thread:)

Marco.

[Made in 1968]

& falling out with someone over their strong views is sad, seriously peeps get a life if you take things personally.. If i have a disagreement with someone its water under the bridge the day after.

[ianlenco]

100% Ian. However the key word is tolerance. Therefore, no matter how much you disagree with someone else's views, as long as they've been expressed politely, then you must show tolerance towards them, and if necessary, defend your contrary point of view with equal politeness.

*That* is how we expect everyone here to behave, on any thread:)

Marco.

Actually I think on the whole I have been very tolerant. I've tried to put an alternative viewpoint to Andre's but if you consider that intolerant then perhaps you should ban me. I have tended to avoid some of the sillier threads that develop on here, sticking to hifi related topics, but I couldn't let this level of intolerance to others as expressed by Andre pass.

[Made in 1968]

Look Ian

Its as simple as this I pay a chunk of money out to Tax, NI & Council tax i expect Social care to be covered by Gov, how much more do they want out of a working bloke? I just feel it not on that we have to now pay it in our council tax bill.

[walpurgis]

Actually I think on the whole I have been very tolerant. I've tried to put an alternative viewpoint to Andre's but if you consider that intolerant then perhaps you should ban me. I have tended to avoid some of the sillier threads that develop on here, sticking to hifi related topics, but I couldn't let this level of intolerance to others as expressed by Andre pass.

I think Marco was agreeing with you and just outlining the forum position on tolerance.

[Marco]

Actually I think on the whole I have been very tolerant. I've tried to put an alternative viewpoint to Andre's but if you consider that intolerant then perhaps you should ban me. I have tended to avoid some of the sillier threads that develop on here, sticking to hifi related topics, but I couldn't let this level of intolerance to others as expressed by Andre pass.

Absolutely, I was just making a general point for everyone. No idea why (or if) you'd have taken it personally.

Marco.

[Marco]

& falling out with someone over their strong views is sad, seriously peeps get a life if you take things personally.. If i have a disagreement with someone its water under the bridge the day after.

Lol... Come on now dude, how many times have you practiced that (very good) advice, or stropped off forums instead, precisely as a result of the above?:ner:

;)

Soz, but *everyone* here should learn to practice what they preach, which is why I have to highlight such inconsistencies.

Marco.

[Marco]

I think Marco was agreeing with you and just outlining the forum position on tolerance.

Exactly! I thought that was very clear.... Where you see 'you must', read it as 'one must'. Simples:)

Marco.

[struth]

Look Ian

Its as simple as this I pay a chunk of money out to Tax, NI & Council tax i expect Social care to be covered by Gov, how much more do they want out of a working bloke? I just feel it not on that we have to now pay it in our council tax bill.

its been that way for many years

[walpurgis]

Paid mine yesterday. Financially painful!!

Beginning to wonder why I bother, I can live elsewhere for next to bugger all :).

[hifinutt]

i remember when we lived in labour lambeth , our bills were massive compared to tory neighbouring boroughs.

[struth]

Got my bill in a couple of weeks ago.. mine is paid DD monthly

[AJSki2fly]

Paid mine yesterday. Financially painful!!

Beginning to wonder why I bother, I can live elsewhere for next to bugger all :).


You can pay mine if you like Geoff, it's only a mere £2450 for the year:steam:

[struth]

a lot higher than mine..

[Marco]

You can pay mine if you like Geoff, it's only a mere £2450 for the year:steam:

Still less than mine, here in sunny Wrexham!;)

Marco.

[Marco]

i remember when we lived in labour lambeth , our bills were massive compared to tory neighbouring boroughs.

Yeah, that's the bastid Tories for ya!:guns:

Marco.

[AJSki2fly]

Still less than mine, here in sunny Wrexham!;)

Marco.

But then you do live in Marco mansion house[emoji3]


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[Marco]

Lol... It's mainly because it's a Grade-B listed building.

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

Lol... It's mainly because it's a Grade-B listed building.

Marco.

Grade B? Is that what they used to call "slight seconds"? You should be entitled to a rebate if your house is faulty :)

[Made in 1968]

:D

[Marco]

Grade B? Is that what they used to call "slight seconds"? You should be entitled to a rebate if your house is faulty :)

:lolsign:

If only!

In any case, at least we're immune from the horrors of having PVC doors and windows!!:ner:

Marco.

[Made in 1968]

Dont knock PVC

Posh Very Classy

[Marco]

More like Pish Very Crap!:lol:

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

:lolsign:

If only!

In any case, at least we're immune from the horrors of having PVC windows!!:ner:

Marco.

Jealousy's an ugly thing - you can pretend you don't like uPVC windows, but we both know that you are not allowed to put them in your gaff :ner: Still, if you put on a woolly jumper, some extra logs on the burner and fit some heavy curtains, you can kid yourself that your wooden jobbies are actually quite good at keeping the winter outside :)

[Marco]

Lol... I can assure you, sweety, that when the wood burner's roaring away, it's as toasty here as a very toasty thing. So even in the depths of winter, we're sitting in our undies sweating...

Now *there* is an image for you to conjure!!:eek::D

Marco.

[AJSki2fly]

Lol... I can assure you, sweety, that when the wood burner's roaring away, it's as toasty here as a very toasty thing. So even in the depths of winter, we're sitting in our undies sweating...

Now *there* is an image for you to conjure!!:eek::D

Marco.

Are you sat on that bear again in the picture earlier :eek:

[Marco]

Sorry mate, you've lost me there...:scratch:

Marco.

[Made in 1968]

Sorry mate, you've lost me there...:scratch:

Marco.

Hes referring to the Bloke with the milk feeder you posted up earlier

[Marco]

Ah, you mean 'Bessie'? She likes a frolic with 'daddy':eyebrows:

Marco.

[chris@panteg]

Council tax mmmm it's a big chunk of money to pay, there are many people who through no fault of their own will not be able to pay it for a while, unreal situation.

[Marco]

Indeed, Chris, but equally the councils will know that and make provisions accordingly, and of course the government are also offering assistance to those struggling financially.

The bottom line is that no-one is going to be hounded to pay bills that they can't pay, as a result of Corona Virus, so anyone in that situation simply needs to contact the organisations and companies that they pay money to, explain the situation [communication here is the key], and allow them to provide the necessary help, plus also take advantage of the financial support being provided by the government.

One way or the other, folks will get through this, and it'll all be fine!:cool:

Marco.

[CageyH]

Yes, but maybe not all folks. :(

I have concerns for my parents, who are in their later years of life.
If anything happens, I can’t go and see them.

[Marco]

Sure, but I was referring solely to the financial, not health side of things, Kevin. Are your parents struggling to pay their bills, or are you just concerned for their health? And are they in the UK?

Marco.

[AJSki2fly]

Indeed, Chris, but equally the councils will know that and make provisions accordingly, and of course the government are also offering assistance to those struggling financially.

The bottom line is that no-one is going to be hounded to pay bills that they can't pay, as a result of Corona Virus, so anyone in that situation simply needs to contact the organisations and companies that they pay money to, explain the situation [communication here is the key], and allow them to provide the necessary help, plus also take advantage of the financial support being provided by the government.

One way or the other, folks will get through this, and it'll all be fine!:cool:

Marco.

I am not so sure. I have spent the morning looking at the various benefits available. JSA, ESA, the ubiquitous universal credit system and so on. Due to my own personal health circumstances I receive ESA, if my wife looses her job then she would either need to claim JSA or UC, now here’s the rub as I understand it, claim UC and you are immediately likely to loose the ESA even though your partner does so, and as far as I can determine UC is the only route to support related to Coronavirus at present.

So IMO it is really not simple, I am reasonably intelligent and find it an utter minefield, so much so that a trip to Citizen Advise is probably needed before making a bad move short term or long term.

As for not paying bills I would be very careful not paying council tax, it is a criminal offence and they pursue it vehemently.


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[Macca]

Your wife could claim JSA, it isn't means tested.

If you don't pay council tax worst case you get a CCJ and an attachment of earnings. No prison.

[AJSki2fly]

Your wife could claim JSA, it isn't means tested.

If you don't pay council tax worst case you get a CCJ and an attachment of earnings. No prison.

JSA was the plan if she looses her job. My point was that as it looks as it stands now you are fed towards Uni Credit to get any Coronavirus support, and this can have a serious detrimental effect on what you get and can claim longer term.

[Marco]

Guys, you don't just not pay bills! :doh: Where did I say that?

You CONTACT the companies/organisations you pay money to, for various different services, such as your local council, and advise them that you're in temporary financial difficulty because of the Coronavirus outbreak, which of course they'll be well aware of, and AGREE a mutually acceptable plan to address the situation, based on the help that legally they have to provide, or what is available from the government.

That will then stop the system from chasing you up for the money you owe, *providing* that you comply with the proposals you've agreed - and you do the very same with everyone else you normally pay. What you don't do is force yourself into work because there's 'no other option', and risking your own health or spreading the virus, if you want to pay your bills. As outlined, there *are* other options available, even if they're not always going to be straightforward.

The key, however, if CV is causing you financial difficulty, is to COMMUNICATE with the people you pay, advise them of your current situation and discuss a way forward, not simply just bury your head in the sand.

Marco.

[AJSki2fly]

Unless I missed something Marco I don’t think anyone was suggesting not paying their bills or meeting their obligations.

The unprecedented income loss that lots and lots of people in society are likely to face is unlikely to be short term. So for any one actually being able to know what is reasonable or sensible to be able to commit to financially in the future is probably impossible, just as it is impossible at present to predict when the covid-19 will be beaten.


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[Marco]

Hi Adrian,


Unless I missed something Marco I don’t think anyone was suggesting not paying their bills or meeting their obligations.


See highlighted text below, where first *you* quoted me, and then brought up the subject of not paying bills:


I am not so sure. I have spent the morning looking at the various benefits available. JSA, ESA, the ubiquitous universal credit system and so on. Due to my own personal health circumstances I receive ESA, if my wife looses her job then she would either need to claim JSA or UC, now here’s the rub as I understand it, claim UC and you are immediately likely to loose the ESA even though your partner does so, and as far as I can determine UC is the only route to support related to Coronavirus at present.

So IMO it is really not simple, I am reasonably intelligent and find it an utter minefield, so much so that a trip to Citizen Advise is probably needed before making a bad move short term or long term.

As for not paying bills I would be very careful not paying council tax, it is a criminal offence and they pursue it vehemently.



That's what I was referring to. Where did you get the idea of non-payment from? It certainly wasn't from me.

As for the rest, yes, no-one said it was going to be easy, but the fact is that many THOUSANDS of people will be financially affected by the current situation, due to something that has been totally out with of their control, and so allowances will be made for that as far as possible.

Marco.

[AJSki2fly]

I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying Marco, although I may have not been clear and did not mean to imply that you were suggesting people did not pay bills.

I was trying to say to people generally that not paying the council tax bill is not a good way to go as it is the one that is perused hard if not paid, and as you say whoever you owe money to you need to discuss with them to determine what can be done.

The issue as I see it for a lot of people is that if they loose their income and are forced on benefits of whatever sort is that payment of the CT bill may be a huge chunk out of what they receive. There is Council tax relief for those on benefits in our case with Sue claiming JSA (hopefully not) and me receiving ESA then we would get a £47 a month reduction off the CT bill, taking the monthly amount down to £200 a month, not a lot but it helps. By the way the remainder CT to pay is 23.6% out of the benefits received, a big chunk

[Marco]

No problem, Adrian. It was the "As for not paying bills" bit, which suggested you were referring to someone who'd brought up the subject, and as you had quoted me, that's how I drew the conclusion you were referring to me:)

Marco.

[AJSki2fly]

No worries, [emoji8]


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[Firebottle]

Guys, you don't just not pay bills! :doh: Where did I say that?

You CONTACT the companies/organisations you pay money to, for various different services, such as your local council, and advise them that you're in temporary financial difficulty because of the Coronavirus outbreak, which of course they'll be well aware of, and AGREE a mutually acceptable plan to address the situation, based on the help that legally they have to provide, or what is available from the government.

That will then stop the system from chasing you up for the money you owe, *providing* that you comply with the proposals you've agreed - and you do the very same with everyone else you normally pay. What you don't do is force yourself into work because there's 'no other option', and risking your own health or spreading the virus, if you want to pay your bills. As outlined, there *are* other options available, even if they're not always going to be straightforward.

The key, however, if CV is causing you financial difficulty, is to COMMUNICATE with the people you pay, advise them of your current situation and discuss a way forward, not simply just bury your head in the sand.

Marco.

This is such vital advice.
I have once been in the position of not being able to keep the mortgage payments up through redundancy. Communication is more than vital, it is essential.

These organisations would rather you sort a way to continue, albeit it with a delay or reconfigured payments, than be forced into repossession.

Don't put off contacting your provider, they are human after all.

[chris@panteg]

I think more awareness is needed to what people should do, many are confused and worried that they will be forgotten about and left to it!

God I hope it does turn out alright Marco, I'm just concerned that the government have not acted decisively enough, it feels like the ship has sailed? If we end up like where Italy is at the moment?

[Pigmy Pony]

I think more awareness is needed to what people should do, many are confused and worried that they will be forgotten about and left to it!

God I hope it does turn out alright Marco, I'm just concerned that the government have not acted decisively enough, it feels like the ship has sailed? If we end up like where Italy is at the moment?

Chris, your signature was never more apt! :D

[chris@panteg]

Chris, your signature was never more apt! :D

Are you the farmer ��

[Macca]

Will you stop saying that? Of course he's the fucking farmer!

[Pigmy Pony]

Are you the farmer ��

What you talkin 'bout Willis?

[Marco]

Well, you're the one with the Farmer Giles:eyebrows:

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

Well, you're the one with the Farmer Giles:eyebrows:

Marco.

That doesn't make things any clearer. Thing is, it's Tuesday afternoon, I'm normally hard at work with my idiot side on standby. Might make more sense after I've had me tea :scratch:

[Marco]

Farmer Giles is Cockney rhyming slang for piles, schoopit!:D

Often shortened simply to 'farmers'.

You Northerners...;)

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

I know all that, I just didn't understand Chris's question, nor Macca's reply :popcorn:

On a related note Marco, are you a bag of crisps this year?

[Marco]

Lol - you've lost me on that one!:hmm:

Care to elucidate?:)

Marco.

[Macca]

I know all that, I just didn't understand Chris's question, nor Macca's reply :popcorn:



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[Pigmy Pony]

Lol - you've lost me on that one!:hmm:

Care to elucidate?:)

Marco.

Now you know how I feel about being given a completely nonsense question - it means nothing at all :ner:

[Pigmy Pony]

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:lolsign::lol::rfl: Now I get it! That is great, never seen the film but I've heard it's pretty good. Once again :lol:

[Macca]

:lolsign::lol::rfl: Now I get it! That is great, never seen the film but I've heard it's pretty good. Once again :lol:

One of those rare films that gets funnier each time you watch it.

[walpurgis]

One of those rare films that gets funnier each time you watch it.

Yes, I'd like to see it again actually.

I liked the sordid and grimy character and of course, the dreadful stupidity.

[Barry]

I cannot stand that film - didn't find it the least bit funny. :sofa:

[Marco]

Never even heard of it, let alone watched it!!:D

Marco.

[Made in 1968]

Not something i would waste electricity watching

[Marco]

What I always find amusing is how folks quote these supposedly 'famous' lines from TV shows or movies, automatically presuming that everyone else will be aware of them and 'get' the joke, or whatever!!::doh::D

Clue: 'famous' (or well-known) is often only that which inhabits *your* world.

Marco.

[Made in 1968]

Just to let you know you catch me doing that it will be from A Clockwork Orange'

Viddy Well

:D

[Marco]

Lol - no worries. The thing is, I almost *never* pay attention to lines in films, just as I almost never pay attention to lyrics in songs!

When it comes to music, I'm a 'tunes & rhythm' guy, and when it comes to movies, it's the SCENES (action-wise or otherwise memorable) that stick in my mind most.

So even with my favourite films, which I've seen a 100 times, I would struggle to remember anything any actor had said in them!!:D

Marco.

P.S Save perhaps the very famous 'one-liners' from The Godfather movies, Jaws ('we need a bigger boat', etc) or The Shining ('Here's Johnny'). Anything more 'obscure' than that, forget it!!

[Macca]

It's 'Here's Johnny' - as in Johnny Carson show. But carry on...:D

[Made in 1968]

Lol - no worries. The thing is, I almost *never* pay attention to lines in films, just as I almost never pay attention to lyrics in songs!

When it comes to music, I'm a 'tunes & rhythm' guy, and when it comes to movies, it's the SCENES (action-wise or otherwise memorable) that stick in my mind most.

So even with my favourite films, which I've seen a 100 times, I would struggle to remember anything any actor had said in them!!:D

Marco.

P.S Save perhaps the very famous 'one-liners' from The Godfather movies, Jaws ('we need a bigger boat', etc) or The Shining ('Here comes Johnny').

The words [NADSAT] is a very important to Clockwork orange. No NADSAT no story

[Marco]

It's 'Here's Johnny' - as in Johnny Carson show. But carry on...:D

Johnny Carson who?:eyebrows:

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

Lol - no worries. The thing is, I almost *never* pay attention to lines in films, just as I almost never pay attention to lyrics in songs!

When it comes to music, I'm a 'tunes & rhythm' guy, and when it comes to movies, it's the SCENES (action-wise or otherwise memorable) that stick in my mind most.

So even with my favourite films, which I've seen a 100 times, I would struggle to remember anything any actor had said in them!!:D

Marco.

P.S Save perhaps the very famous 'one-liners' from The Godfather movies, Jaws ('we need a bigger boat', etc) or The Shining ('Here's Johnny'). Anything more 'obscure' than that, forget it!!

And that's why so many of these "famous" quotes go right over your head!

When I read through some of the threads elsewhere in this forum, covering technical aspects of our hobby, I don't feel moved to question everything that's said or complain about it because that would at worst ruin the thread, or at least wind everyone up! Similarly, you may find topics in Abstract Chat which are unknown to you. You may have to accept that you will never fully "get" everything.

A bit less car chases and big explosions, and more films with memorable, quotable dialogue may eventually fix things :)

Unlike Marvin, your brain won't be the size of a planet*, even though it looks like it from the outside :ner:

*An oft-used statement from Marvin in the "Hitch hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" before you ask :)

[Marco]

And that's why so many of these "famous" quotes go right over your head!

When I read through some of the threads elsewhere in this forum, covering technical aspects of our hobby, I don't feel moved to question everything that's said or complain about it because that would at worst ruin the thread, or at least wind everyone up! Similarly, you may find topics in Abstract Chat which are unknown to you. You may have to accept that you will never fully "get" everything.

A bit less car chases and big explosions, and more films with memorable, quotable dialogue may eventually fix things :)

Unlike Marvin, your brain won't be the size of a planet*, even though it looks like it from the outside :ner:

*An oft-used statement from Marvin in the "Hitch hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" before you ask :)

You're absolutely right, but you can only like what you like, or know what you know! So as for the bit in bold, I'll be sticking with my 'usual suspects'!:ner:

A man should always know his limitations and never be afraid to ask questions.

Marco.

[struth]

You're absolutely right, but you can only like what you like or know what you know! So as for the bit in bold, I'll be sticking with my 'usual suspects'!:ner:

A man should always know his limitations and never be afraid to ask questions.

Marco.A man should know his limitations.. Quote from a dirty Harry film. [emoji23]

[Marco]

:lolsign:

I actually know that one!:D

Marco.

[struth]

[emoji38]sign:

I actually know that one!:D

Marco.Thought u might.. Think it was magnum force, the one with the vigilante cops

[Macca]

Thought u might.. Think it was magnum force, the one with the vigilante cops

Watched the first three Dirty Harry recently on TCM. They must have cleaned them up or something because they look fantastic. Seen them all loads of times over the years but they always had that 'Seventies' look to them. Got the first one on DVD and it has that look. But on TCM HD they look like they were made this year. The background music sound quality is really good too.

[Marco]

Yeah I know what you mean, and I'm sure it happens. However, I thought you'd have preferred them intact with '70s patina'!:D

That super-rich/vibrant colour palette is one of the things I love about watching old Westerns! Valve-powered TV cameras are great...;)

Marco.

[struth]

They were released a good while ago on bluray. Maybe was those

[Macca]

Maybe so. If you've got TCM HD check them out. I was amazed. Like watching them for the first time.

[AJSki2fly]

I want a shrubbery, with a split level affect. [emoji2]

[Pigmy Pony]

You're absolutely right, but you can only like what you like, or know what you know! So as for the bit in bold, I'll be sticking with my 'usual suspects'!:ner:

A man should always know his limitations and never be afraid to ask questions.

Marco.

Well there are a couple of questions you've clearly been afraid to ask, but I'll answer them anyway:

1. Yes it has cleared up now.

2. No, you'll be fine, I wore a condom.

Hope this puts your mind at ease :)

[Marco]

Nearly... One last question though:

Did you enjoy it?:D

Marco.

[Pigmy Pony]

Pretty good, but I think the Llama was unnecessary :eyebrows: