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struth
12-03-2020, 09:38
Forgot to post this... how remiss, although no-one noticed. :eek:


Well heavy snow overnight so woke up at 6 with a blizzard ongoing. Stopped now tho and starting to warm up so guessing it wont last too long. currently 2c

Marco
12-03-2020, 10:29
Snow?? Lol... *Total* opposite here. Dry, bright and sunny, with a slightly coldish wind. Perfect walking weather!:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
12-03-2020, 20:05
Chilly today with a real blow-your-ladders-over winds. I'm sick of this winter now, the novelty has well and truly worn off

Alex_UK
12-03-2020, 22:41
I had planned a walk, lovely sunshine but very breezy, but then Sue got delayed with work and I had to pick the kids up from school so the walk was kyboshed... hey ho. still chilly enough for a burn up in the wood burner this evening as usual.

struth
12-03-2020, 22:46
I had planned a walk, lovely sunshine but very breezy, but then Sue got delayed with work and I had to pick the kids up from school so the walk was kyboshed... hey ho. still chilly enough for a burn up in the wood burner this evening as usual.My neighbour has one in his shed [emoji23]

Alex_UK
12-03-2020, 22:50
My neighbour has one in his shed [emoji23]

Oh my God, he has a Sue in the shed? Actually, that’s not a bad idea... :D

struth
12-03-2020, 23:12
Multi fuel burner. Mad bugger

Pigmy Pony
13-03-2020, 06:55
Multi fuel burner. Mad bugger

Sounds good to me, proper man cave. Obviously used with caution

struth
26-03-2020, 08:52
6c mist and fog. not pleasant

Marco
26-03-2020, 08:57
Hopefully, mate, you'll get the good weather we're enjoying now at the weekend, when it's cold and rainy here!:)

Right now, however, it's bright and sunny and set for 17C, like yesterday.

Marco.

struth
26-03-2020, 08:58
to be like this for next week:rolleyes:

Pigmy Pony
26-03-2020, 09:45
Wall to wall blue sky here, and very pleasant. not a breath of wind, and no sound coming from M61 half a mile away. Quite eerie. spent yesterday afternoon making improvements to my old bird table, armed with better materials and tools.

Plan to give it some Ronseal Fencelife later, then do a bit of pointing on bungalow's roof verges. That should get Mrs. P off my case for a while - may even get to play my Steel Pulse album which has been earworming me this morning :)

Weather set to be colder again after tomorrow - get out there while you can!

struth
28-03-2020, 12:06
cloudy and 6c here... to be a frost tonight.

rmcin626
28-03-2020, 12:11
Dry and about 8c here

Pigmy Pony
28-03-2020, 12:11
cloudy and 6c here... to be a frost tonight.

Don't much like this wind you've sent down our way. About 9C but feels much colder

struth
28-03-2020, 12:21
lol, not much here today..you must have it :ner:

walpurgis
28-03-2020, 12:22
Don't much like this wind you've sent down our way. About 9C but feels much colder

Yes. I've had a problem with excessive wind today. :)

struth
28-03-2020, 12:24
Yes. I've had a problem with excessive wind today. :)

ripping the hell out of you is it?:D

Pigmy Pony
28-03-2020, 12:49
lol, not much here today..you must have it :ner:

Yeah thanks for that :( Didn't seem to bother a sparrow hawk which just tore past my window chasing something down, those guys can turn on a sixpence :eek:

Marco
28-03-2020, 13:05
Cloudy, dry and 11C here. Just about to make some lunch (fresh Panzerotti pasta, filled with crab and prawn, served with homemade tomato sauce), then out in the garden to do some weeding!:)

Marco.

Audio Al
28-03-2020, 17:39
It's not rained here for over a week now :)

Won't be long before the hosepipe ban :D

Audio Al
28-03-2020, 17:40
Cloudy, dry and 11C here. Just about to make some lunch (fresh Panzerotti pasta, filled with crab and prawn, served with homemade tomato sauce), then out in the garden to do some weeding!:)

Marco.

A pet hate of mine :eek:

Marco
28-03-2020, 17:42
It's not rained here for over a week now :)

Won't be long before the hosepipe ban :D

Has your little 'hosepipe' squirted recently?

Marco.

Audio Al
28-03-2020, 18:05
Has your little 'hosepipe' squirted recently?

Marco.

As used by the fire brigade ;)

Marco
28-03-2020, 18:20
Yesh, with Corgi-sized fire engines:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
28-03-2020, 18:34
As used by the fire brigade ;)

What, you let the firemen use your hosepipe? :eyebrows: I have a pole for them to slide down (only in emergencies mind)

And I've volunteered to keep their helmets polished

Mikeandvan
28-03-2020, 21:58
Why is it still so bloody cold? Not to mention windy as ****.

Made in 1968
28-03-2020, 22:34
Why does it matter what the weather is seen as everyone is forced to be recluse!

Macca
29-03-2020, 08:04
Why is it still so bloody cold? Not to mention windy as ****.

Are you new to this country?

Marco
29-03-2020, 08:18
Why does it matter what the weather is seen as everyone is forced to be recluse!

'Cos if it's nice, you can go out in your garden:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 08:34
'Cos if it's nice, you can go out in your garden:)

Marco.

Absolutely. Having an alternative to four walls makes a big difference. But I won't bang on about it cos there'll be an unlucky few who live in flats etc who only have access to communal areas. Gotta feel for them :(

Marco
29-03-2020, 08:41
Indeed.... Also, it still lifts your spirits if you wake up to a bright sunny morning, and can see it looks nice outside, even if you can't get out. Better than looking out to rain.

Marco.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 08:43
'Cos if it's nice, you can go out in your garden:)

Marco.

& do what play with yersen loike?

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 08:43
Even sitting by a window where the sun's coming in - a simple pleasure of mine in the morningtime :)

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 08:45
Absolutely. Having an alternative to four walls makes a big difference. But I won't bang on about it cos there'll be an unlucky few who live in flats etc who only have access to communal areas. Gotta feel for them :(

That's me. Lost my House. Could only afford to buy a cheap ex council flat.

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 08:51
& do what play with yersen loike?

Well you don't HAVE to do anything, just enjoy the sense of space, and take a radio outside, or a book, or your laptop. Open a window and play your tunes extra loud. Or think up some ideas of your own, or would you like me to recommend some books/records (sorry I meant CDs)/radio stations for you? Or can you take it from here? :D

walpurgis
29-03-2020, 08:58
The current situation doesn't change my way of life hugely as I've been more or less self isolating for years. This being scumbag city, there's bugger all out there I want to get involved with anyway. I still walk the dog, the only thing that is different is me not going shopping now.

Macca
29-03-2020, 09:13
The current situation doesn't change my way of life hugely as I've been more or less self isolating for years. This being scumbag city, there's bugger all out there I want to get involved with anyway. I still walk the dog, the only thing that is different is me not going shopping now.

Yep - I've always seen having to leave the house for any reason as a failure in planning.

walpurgis
29-03-2020, 09:16
Yep - I've always seen having to leave the house for any reason as a failure in planning.

Exactly!

struth
29-03-2020, 10:19
up to 3c now but a very cold wind again.. was below 0 last night

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 10:24
up to 3c now but a very cold wind again.. was below 0 last night

Yeah I sent it back as it was faulty. Wasn't warming up properly

walpurgis
29-03-2020, 10:26
We have 6C and it's windy. Feels colder though.

Think I'll take the pooch for a mooch :).

hifi_dave
29-03-2020, 12:39
Sitting in my office with the Sun warming me up but snow hammering down outside.

Can you get snow rainbows ?

Marco
29-03-2020, 13:45
& do what play with yersen loike?

Lol... Have you not seen the pics I've been posting on the food thread?

Del and I have been having quite a few meals together in the backyard, enjoying the sun. Plus, even when I'm on my own, I love having my meals outside in the fresh air, posting there from my laptop (wifi is good all around our house), and I can also stream music out into the garden:)

Plus, I've been busy gardening! You can't do that if it's pissing down, so in that respect the weather matters:cool:

Marco.

Marco
29-03-2020, 13:57
Yep - I've always seen having to leave the house for any reason as a failure in planning.

Lol - what are yooz like!:doh::D

When all this is over, and we're hopefully still here and reasonably healthy, you guys need to start LIVING a little... LIFE outside of your own four walls (or town or city) can be a whole load of FUN! Remember that?;)

Geoff, you should make the most of it mate, considering what you've just been through! When it's safe to do so, get down to Devon (was it?) again, de-stress and breathe in some fresh air:)

This current crisis aside, too many folks today are stuck in a rut and are merely EXISTING [just muddling through from day to day] rather than *LIVING*, and I find that rather sad.

Marco.

Macca
29-03-2020, 14:04
Did all my living - too much living - years ago, happy to have peace and quiet now.

Marco
29-03-2020, 14:11
But you're only, what, 51?!:doh:

You've still [hopefully]l got a big part of your life in front of you mate, so how do you intend on spending that - cooped up alone like an old recluse? Come on!!:)

I've also done plenty of living so far, but (God willing) I intend on doing a damn sight more before I pop my clogs!:exactly:

Maybe if you found yourself a girlfriend it would be different?

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 15:12
But you're only, what, 51?!:doh:

You've still [hopefully]l got a big part of your life in front of you mate, so how do you intend on spending that - cooped up alone like an old recluse? Come on!!:)

I've also done plenty of living so far, but (God willing) I intend on doing a damn sight more before I pop my clogs!:exactly:

Maybe if you found yourself a girlfriend it would be different?

Marco.

Different isn't always better. If you already like your life, adding a girlfriend may be like adding custard to a perfectly good steak :(

Marco
29-03-2020, 15:21
Possibly, but only Martin can answer that.

I can definitely say though, that I'd struggle to live myself without any female company. I'm too much of a social animal (only with folks I get on well with, though). Yes, I also like my own space, and get that when Del's at work, but I really look forward to her coming home, so we can spend time together, and I enjoy that much more than the 'me time' beforehand.

As ever, it's a case of each to his or her own... I just think though that if you're my age, or younger, and still in good health, that you've got a lot more to live for than just being cooped up in your house alone, especially when you've retired, bearing in mind that Martin will be in that happy position pretty soon.

Marco.

hifi_dave
29-03-2020, 15:27
It's like a different day now with wall to wall sunshine - no clouds in the sky but a bitter cold North wind.

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 15:35
Mrs. P had a couple of hours working in the garden, I helped by keeping out of her way and watching Marathon Man and The Truman Show instead. Might go outside tomorrow if it's a bit warmer, but I don't want to get all my jobs finished too soon. Gotta pace yourself.

Marco
29-03-2020, 15:46
Lol - why would keeping out her way be helpful? Sorry, I'm just trying to understand that mindset (one that's rather alien to me), unless of course you were just joking?:)

In terms of jobs to do in the garden, or around the house, I haven't even scratched the surface yet!:eek:

Marco.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 16:29
Well i spent all day pissing about with this turntable. Nop its irreparable. Looked at the parts breakdown, someones removed a small piece of the auto return to make it fully manual. Absolute prickz..

Looks like i now have a major problem cos modern decks id rather go without. Looked at a Rega but sorry cant live with one.. Im born to be Vintage :D, cant shake it. Well i can shake vintage Brit stuff very easily

walpurgis
29-03-2020, 16:58
I'm using vintage. Got a TD150 II and a PL-12D here, sounding far better than most would believe.

Still got the SR-370 with 774, but it's not in use at the moment.

Macca
29-03-2020, 17:03
Well i spent all day pissing about with this turntable. Nop its irreparable. Looked at the parts breakdown, someones removed a small piece of the auto return to make it fully manual. Absolute prickz..

Looks like i now have a major problem cos modern decks id rather go without. Looked at a Rega but sorry cant live with one.. Im born to be Vintage :D, cant shake it. Well i can shake vintage Brit stuff very easily

I've got a spare SL1200 if you want :D

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 17:05
Not if it was the last deck on earth Macca

Im illurgic to bouncy decks too. I have two issues with the PL12 that i cannot live with. The bulky plastic control panels & the quality of the Platter. Its just gotta be 70's Japanese but what i ask myself.. I used to like the old Sansui 'SR1050' but the motor just went dead on me one day. But thats the look im after..

walpurgis
29-03-2020, 17:12
I have no issues with the PL-12D. For what it is, it does a great job. It sounds perfectly acceptable, is dead easy to maintain and never goes wrong. I quite like the basic appearance, as it has no bling. It's also better made than the competing Trio KD-1030.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 17:42
Yeh they sound good i bought one used when i was at school. O yeh those Trios are poor. Ill think it over tonight. Just bought an old Akai 'GXC46D' cassette Deck complete with original Dust cover that are usually missing. The Deck needs to match that. The lid on the Pioneer & the Lid on the Akai are no where near a match which will bug me for starters.. ffks its terrible being a nutter.

Macca
29-03-2020, 17:48
PL71 would match that tape deck wouldn't it?

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 17:51
Certainly would & its loverly. Just one issue. DIRECT DRIVE

Macca
29-03-2020, 17:56
Direct drive is superior!

I don't know. My advice is forget it, just a load of hassle and expense. Stick some 1970s style wood panels on your streamer thingy.

Macca
29-03-2020, 17:57
Just realised clocks went forward, was wondering why it was still so light at 1900.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 18:30
Direct drive is superior!

I don't know. My advice is forget it, just a load of hassle and expense. Stick some 1970s style wood panels on your streamer thingy.

DD were cack when they came out, Short memories thats the trouble :lol:

You right it is a lot of Hassle & expense but at least its real Hi-Fi not Digital. Ive been listening to CD all day Yawn Yawn albums i know off by heart are just a drag honestly. Wish i was a 100% Audio cassette nut, that would be so easy.

Mikeandvan
29-03-2020, 18:37
My first day off this week and its freezing and windy on the seafront in Brighton, with frequent hailstone showers. 'It always rains on sundays', that's the name of a depressing black and white British film from the 50s, and that's what it feels like these days with everything shut, and now I can't even drink as I'm trying to keep my immune system healthy as possible.

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 18:40
Lol - why would keeping out her way be helpful? Sorry, I'm just trying to understand that mindset (one that's rather alien to me), unless of course you were just joking?:)

In terms of jobs to do in the garden, or around the house, I haven't even scratched the surface yet!:eek:

Marco.
There is no mindset to understand, it's just the way I wrote it. We srarted watching marathon Man together, she thought it was a bit shit and decided to do a bit of gardening instead

As for your gardening workload - I've seen pics of your garden, and nice though it is, it's way smaller than my brother's garden. He lives on his own, works 56 days a week, and still manages to keep on top of it. Maybe you need to swap your kiddies sandcastle bucket for a wheelbarrow, trade in your hairdressers' scissors for some garden shears, and buy a lawnmower :ner:

He somehow found time to install new central heating and two bathrooms there. He does however have a cleaner come in twice a week, the lazy sod :)

Marco
29-03-2020, 18:44
There is no mindset to understand, it's just the way I wrote it. We srarted watching marathon Man together, she thought it was a bit shit and decided to do a bit of gardening instead

As for your gardening workload - I've seen pics of your garden, and nice though it is, it's way smaller than my brother's garden. He lives on his own, works 56 days a week, and still manages to keep on top of it. Maybe you need to swap your kiddies sandcastle bucket for a wheelbarrow, trade in your hairdressers' scissors for some garden shears, and buy a lawnmower :ner:

He somehow found time to install new central heating and two bathrooms there. He does however have a cleaner come in twice a week, the lazy sod :)

Lol, respect and good luck to him. I like to take my time and enjoy it, plus there's more to do than meets the eye. And besides, once you've taken 3 hours over lunch and dinner and polished off 2 bottles of wine and cocktails, the day soon passes!:lol::ner:;)

Marco [forever a bon vivant].

P.S Plus, you've only seen the front garden. The back garden is bigger and more 'problematic'!

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 18:51
You seem to have a lengthy list of decks you don't like, Andre. But then you trashed a deck you do like. Quite a conundrum. My suggestion: Buy a vintage CD player, sell all your vinyl, and use the cash to buy a nice holiday in Skegness for you and Chez when this madness is over. Sounds like a nice break would do you both good :)

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 19:10
Lol, respect and good luck to him. I like to take my time and enjoy it, plus there's more to do than meets the eye. And besides, once you've taken 3 hours over lunch and dinner and polished off 2 bottles of wine and cocktails, the day soon passes!:lol::ner:;)

Marco [forever a bon vivant].

P.S Plus, you've only seen the front garden. The back garden is bigger and more 'problematic'!

But not today eh, or yesterday, and not for a while yet - be careful with your answer, I know stuff ;) I have another brother who is more like you, great at making a two day job last a week and having a good reason :D

My brother's garden won't really be bigger, but has a lot of landscaping, going up to the golf course. The remaining couple of acres are wild woodland, which get no more attention than cutting up the occasional fallen tree. He really hardly stops though and can be tiring to be round.

Marco
29-03-2020, 19:21
But not today eh, or yesterday, and not for a while yet - be careful with your answer, I know stuff ;)

Ha - very good, but you're wrong!:D

I'll leave your bro to enjoy his golf...

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
29-03-2020, 19:27
Ha - very good, but you're wrong!:D

I'll leave your bro to enjoy his golf...

Marco.

Au contraire, I'm right alright - you can't use the 2 bottles of wine + cocktails excuse, cos it's Lent innit! I know you're a good Lent boy, spelt with an L. :)

Marco
29-03-2020, 19:44
Ha - you see that's where you've not been paying attention!:spank::spank:
;)

I mean, you commented yesterday on a pic of my "nosebag" (how it looked nice), and there was an opened bottle of wine and two glasses clearly visible on the table... So, as one of my most devoted fans, your lack of observational skills is most disappointing.

I called a halt on the Lent thing (after 3 weeks of zero alcohol) due to the fact that currently there are no masses and the Catholic calendar for Easter has been totally disrupted, plus life's too short, and we might not even be alive by Easter!!:eek:

Marco.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 20:16
You seem to have a lengthy list of decks you don't like, Andre. But then you trashed a deck you do like. Quite a conundrum. My suggestion: Buy a vintage CD player, sell all your vinyl, and use the cash to buy a nice holiday in Skegness for you and Chez when this madness is over. Sounds like a nice break would do you both good :)

Keep saying this but no one believes me. Ive had virtually every Turntable within Expense reason. I used to buy decks every 3-4 weeks guaranteed, had two in a week sometimes lol, but very very few i liked. ofc i have fuck all money these days not that i would spend silly money on anything but i also have a style obsession to feed keeping in mind the things i did not like about the past decks. Im not an in depth listener anymore but i can certainly hear the difference between C 'Yawn' D and Vinyl, stick the same cart on two different decks and it will sound the same to me.. Im trying my best to get away from Digital & lock myself into Analogue. Digital is a cop out for easiness, everyone knows that.

Audiophools dont like Japanese gear cos they are blinded by the DIY looking British tripe. I however love old Japanese stuff, even though they designed DD which i loath. I trashed the deck over an argument in which i flew of the handle, obviously was not on a purpose. Well think myself lucky this time, i broke my wrist last time i gave my old B&W 'DM2a' a left hook forgetting theres a Basket & Magnet behind the unit cone :doh:

Actually a Turntable has just come to mind that will match my Sony amp visually. Ill just ave to buy the matching Cassette Deck to go with it. Put the one i just bought away in storage. Ill get sorted im sure of it. im just getting to the stage where im struggling, Stalemate.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 20:19
Ha - you see that's where you've not been paying attention!:spank::spank:
;)

I mean, you commented yesterday on a pic of my "nosebag" (how it looked nice), and there was an opened bottle of wine and two glasses clearly visible on the table... So, as one of my most dedicated fans, your lack of observational skills is most disappointing.

I called a halt on the Lent thing (after 3 weeks of zero alcohol) due to the fact that currently there are no masses and the Catholic calendar for Easter has been totally disrupted, plus life's too short, and we might not eveEaster!!:n be alive by eek:

Marco.

And how the hell you work that out, Its no Black Death :lol:

Marco
29-03-2020, 20:25
I however love old Japanese stuff, even though they designed DD which i loath..

I've always wondered what *exactly* it is though you loathe? Could you elucidate on that, as I'm curious?:)

I have no such emotional attachment (either way) with any kind of turntable, or any piece of hi-fi equipment or speakers, for that matter. I have my sonic preferences, of course, but nothing deeper than that, as I'm not driven that way. For me, it's ultimately all about the music, not the gear.

Marco.

Marco
29-03-2020, 20:27
And how the hell you work that out, Its no Black Death :lol:

Lol - indeed, but as we've all seen, it can still prove fatal. Therefore, the last thing I'd want to be doing was depriving myself of something I really enjoyed when I only had a short time left to live!

Marco.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 20:48
I've always wondered what *exactly* it is though you loathe? Could you elucidate on that, as I'm curious?:)

I have no such emotional connection (either way) with any kind of turntable, or any piece of hi-fi equipment or speakers, for that matter. I have my sonic preferences, of course, but nothing deeper than that, as I'm not driven that way. For me, it's ultimately all about the music, not the gear.

Marco.

Dunno what it is but i just do not like them, i cant stand strobe platter & the recent insurgence of those 1200 series Technics Decks just fueled my dislike even more.

I have a massive connection to equipment. Like i said above a good cartridge on two different decks may as well be the same sounding deck to me, i would take preference over the Aesthetics & certain qualities in engineering. ofc Music is more important & the reason i do not give a rats arse about specialist Hi-Fi.

Just understand my Aesthetic obsession is in no way the same motivation as say an Audio Enthusiast being more interested in the gear because its a slightly different mind set. Mine is Era/vintage derived, controlled by obsession & OCD

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 20:51
Lol - indeed, but as we've all seen, it can still prove fatal. Therefore, the last thing I'd want to be doing was depriving myself of something I really enjoyed when I only had a short time left to live!

Marco.

You will never get the true statistic on what ages & underling illness people have had cos like always with these situations too many secrets imho.. You'll be fine dude as i will when i get it, cos i am mega open to it for obvious reasons, as with Macca hell be ok.

Marco
29-03-2020, 21:00
Dunno what it is but i just do not like them, i cant stand strobe platter & the recent insurgence of those 1200 series Technics Decks just fueled my dislike even more.

I have a massive connection to equipment. Like i said above a good cartridge on two different decks may as well be the same sounding deck to me, i would take preference over the Aesthetics & certain qualities in engineering. ofc Music is more important & the reason i do not give a rats arse about specialist Hi-Fi.

Just understand my Aesthetic obsession is in no way the same motivation as say an Audio Enthusiast being more interested in the gear because its a slightly different mind set. Mine is Era/vintage derived, controlled by obsession & OCD

I totally get the contents of the last paragraph, and that's fine. I have no such connection (or obsession) with the equipment. I buy what I think works, and to an extent looks good to me, then I stick with it and enjoy it, as you well know. A box-swapper I ain't, as I've had the same system for years!:)

I also dislike strobe platters on turntables, but as you know not all Jap D/D decks have them, so if you don't know what exactly it is you loathe, then I can't help you:D

Marco.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 21:12
the fear of the Quartz Controller failing. as mentioned the 1210 obsession created a hate complex with me. The quick start is fine but you can get that with a Flywheel TT like a Michell. I would rather have a Physical thing like a belt driving the platter than an electronic circuit., i also prefer mechanics.. nor do i want a wacking great motor under my styli.. This is all underling dislikes from years ago thats just ingrained on me.. I refuse to even give a DD the time of day no matter how great people make out they are. I believe they are not & thats all that really matters to me..

Marco
29-03-2020, 21:31
Fair enough, that's a much better explanation of your dislike... I of course disagree, although I understand where you're coming from and accept that some of your criticisms of D/D are valid:)

For me, NO turntable, no amplifier, no speaker - no ANYTHING is perfect, and so if in your head you're trying to achieve some notional concept of 'perfect sound', or way of reproducing recorded music that pacifies your strict proclivities, then you're on a hiding to nothing and forever destined to be disappointed!

Turntables especially though, by dint of how they work (reproduce music), are hugely compromised devices (despite being able to sound great), so I find it more beneficial, and also healthier, to accept their limitations and simply choose one that sonically, to my ears, has the best balance of compromises, and then focus on the music.

In that respect, the limitations of a turntable being controlled by a rubber band/weedy motor is much more obvious to my ears than those created by having a big motor underneath the platter, directly controlling it, particularly when judicious steps have been taken to ameliorate the negative effects as far as possible.

However, it's simply a case of each to his or her own. I think we both still dig vintage idler-driven broadcast T/Ts, especially the ones that were used in American radio stations... Russco - I still lurves ya baby!:eyebrows:

Marco.

Made in 1968
29-03-2020, 21:49
Still love the Sparta 'GT-12' . with Syntec '220' arm. No idea what it sounds like or if it rumbles like a tumble dryer but it looks fantastic. Totally out of my pocket tho..I doubt if i would bother though now.. but it would certainly be a preference over a Garrard or a TD124 Any day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2j3F1XktzM

Marco
29-03-2020, 22:27
Bloody hell, that music is SHEE-ITE! Pure suicide material:doh::lol:

Why the fuck do audiophiles, especially Japanese ones, often have such APPALLING taste in music? ARRGH... Anyhow, I agree about the looks - awesome! Simple, elegant, classic lines. Never even seen one of those before...

Music's not much better on this one:


https://youtu.be/9Hztgg60ySU

Better here (if you like jazz):


https://youtu.be/V7Hp9pKJjLc

I just love the controlled and hugely powerful sound of those things, simply taking all forms of music in their stride, as comfortably and effortlessly/unflustered as a car with a big V8 engine handles speed!

*That*, for me, is where it's at musically, with vinyl, and what puts a smile on my face. No audible 'warbling' or wavering, due to speed instability, or lack of 'heft'... Music is DRIVEN along with great pace, authority and purpose:)

What I can't stand are turntables (or for that matter, cartridges) that produce a weedy, lightweight sound, which you feel could break up or lose control at any second. I like SECURITY and STABILITY, with vinyl replay, and when the music demands, I need to feel some proper weight and 'oomph'...

And for me you only get that with idler or direct-driven varieties, or high-mass belt ones with massive platters (fitted with low-compliance cartridges and high-mass arms).

Marco.

walpurgis
30-03-2020, 07:56
A typical English winter's day out there. Very gloomy and at 4C, cold too!

Audio Al
30-03-2020, 08:02
Yes we are in for a :rolleyes: cold spell :(

Pigmy Pony
30-03-2020, 08:03
Still love the Sparta 'GT-12' . with Syntec '220' arm. No idea what it sounds like or if it rumbles like a tumble dryer but it looks fantastic. Totally out of my pocket tho..I doubt if i would bother though now.. but it would certainly be a preference over a Garrard or a TD124 Any day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2j3F1XktzM

Hmm, can't tell whether it's playing 33 or 45. If only it had a clearer display...

walpurgis
30-03-2020, 08:06
Better here (if you like jazz)

Marco.

Sounds like horn speakers. Lack of 'bloom' and slight horn type colouration (as far as I can really tell via my PC speakers :)).

Pigmy Pony
30-03-2020, 08:14
Ha - you see that's where you've not been paying attention!:spank::spank:
;)

I mean, you commented yesterday on a pic of my "nosebag" (how it looked nice), and there was an opened bottle of wine and two glasses clearly visible on the table... So, as one of my most devoted fans, your lack of observational skills is most disappointing.

I called a halt on the Lent thing (after 3 weeks of zero alcohol) due to the fact that currently there are no masses and the Catholic calendar for Easter has been totally disrupted, plus life's too short, and we might not even be alive by Easter!!:eek:

Marco.

That's the spirit! :)

As for the pictured wine bottle, I thought it may have been an old empty, awaiting a candle. I know it's a look you Continental types like :D

Audio Al
30-03-2020, 08:14
Hmm, can't tell whether it's playing 33 or 45. If only it had a clearer display...

If only it was in focus :eek:

Pigmy Pony
30-03-2020, 08:26
I've always wondered what *exactly* it is though you loathe? Could you elucidate on that, as I'm curious?:)

I have no such emotional attachment (either way) with any kind of turntable, or any piece of hi-fi equipment or speakers, for that matter. I have my sonic preferences, of course, but nothing deeper than that, as I'm not driven that way. For me, it's ultimately all about the music, not the gear.

Marco.

I was wondering just what it is you loathe about DD. Could it not be other parts of those decks you weren't getting on with, which were cancelling to some degree the good work that Direct drive was doing? By which I mean it may not be the actual DD that you weren't liking.

I personally love my Direct Drive TT, and it will go to the grave with me. - I'm certainly no expert, in fact the very opposite, but I love the solid rock-steady presentation, and the absence of faff. Plug 'n' play very important for a numpty like me. :)

Still I suppose we like what we like, like.

Marco
30-03-2020, 08:43
That's the spirit! :)

As for the pictured wine bottle, I thought it may have been an old empty, awaiting a candle. I know it's a look you Continental types like :D

Yesh, not forgetting the fun you can have with the hot candle wax!:eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
30-03-2020, 08:52
6c sunny for now, to cloud over soon tho.

Audio Al
30-03-2020, 08:54
I've always wondered what *exactly* it is though you loathe? Could you elucidate on that, as I'm curious?:)

I have no such emotional attachment (either way) with any kind of turntable, or any piece of hi-fi equipment or speakers, for that matter. I have my sonic preferences, of course, but nothing deeper than that, as I'm not driven that way. For me, it's ultimately all about the music, not the gear.


Marco.

:scratch: Err OK why do you have a expensive system , How much was your copper amp ?? , It must be about the best kit to produce the best sound or we are all waisting out time and money :scratch:

Marco
30-03-2020, 09:02
Not at all. Each to his or her own, daftee. It's not about about how much your gear costs, but how often you change it or 'fret' over the sound. Too many folks on forums, IME, suffer from audiophile neurosis, going round in circles chasing some sort of 'sound' they'll likely never find, spending fortunes in the process, and *still* aren't happy - and it's not a healthy state of mind to be in.

The point I was making though, is that I don't box-swap or hoard gear (or get all OCD over it), simply because that's not my bag/how I'm wired, and most importantly, I'm happy with what I have, so now I just enjoy music. You love collecting stuff, and that's cool, but that's not me:)

Marco.

Barry
30-03-2020, 09:03
I find you get a better class of "crap weather" if you use an idler-drive TT.

Jeez - talk about thread drift!

Pigmy Pony
30-03-2020, 09:14
I've always wondered what *exactly* it is though you loathe? Could you elucidate on that, as I'm curious?:)

I have no such emotional attachment (either way) with any kind of turntable, or any piece of hi-fi equipment or speakers, for that matter. I have my sonic preferences, of course, but nothing deeper than that, as I'm not driven that way. For me, it's ultimately all about the girth, not the length.

Marco.

Not sure what you mean there

Audio Al
30-03-2020, 09:15
I find you get a better class of "crap weather" if you use an idler-drive TT.

Jeez - talk about thread drift!

:offtopic::sofa:

Marco
30-03-2020, 09:19
Not sure what you mean there

Ask Anita!;)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
30-03-2020, 09:22
Ask Anita!;)

Marco.

She's not saying, it's bad manners to speak with your mouth full

Marco
30-03-2020, 09:26
:lolsign:

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
30-03-2020, 09:30
I find you get a better class of "crap weather" if you use an idler-drive TT.

Jeez - talk about thread drift!

Apologies Barry, I didn't want to risk ruining the thread by chatting about the weather. But here it is: About 8C, no wind, but cloudy and dull. Think I'll stay in and play some tunes. Might even post some irrelevant crap on here too, for a change :)

hifi_dave
30-03-2020, 10:16
Snowing..:eek:

rmcin626
30-03-2020, 10:32
Dry and clear and 8c currently

Macca
30-03-2020, 10:34
The air quality here is so good now I can smell the silage from the farm 3 miles away. It's a bit nippy out but it is still March what can you expect?

Made in 1968
30-03-2020, 12:46
I was wondering just what it is you loathe about DD. Could it not be other parts of those decks you weren't getting on with, which were cancelling to some degree the good work that Direct drive was doing? By which I mean it may not be the actual DD that you weren't liking.

I personally love my Direct Drive TT, and it will go to the grave with me. - I'm certainly no expert, in fact the very opposite, but I love the solid rock-steady presentation, and the absence of faff. Plug 'n' play very important for a numpty like me. :)

Still I suppose we like what we like, like.

Ive explained what, Im not gonna repeat misen loike..

Marco
30-03-2020, 12:58
The air quality here is so good now I can smell the knickers of the local 'bike' 3 miles away...

Edited for greater accuracy!:D

Marco.

Macca
30-03-2020, 13:08
Nah you could always smell them

Pigmy Pony
30-03-2020, 15:05
Ive explained what, Im not gonna repeat misen loike..

My apologies, I expect I missed the explanation due to not having read everything that was ever posted. I'm sure I'll come across it at some point :)

guy
30-03-2020, 15:27
Snowing..:eek:

Crikey - we had snow, and sleet and hail and bitting winds yesterday. Today, thankfully, the wind has dropped and quite warm sunshine each time the clouds blow over.
Just shows how weather can vary over quite short distances, although this peninsula does have quite different weather patterns to areas close by. Some evenings we have sat in our back garden (with a glass or two of wine) watching lightening storms either side of us as they follow the path of the Orwell and Stour rivers.

hifi_dave
30-03-2020, 15:37
About an hour ago, I sat for 10 minutes in the sunshine and it was warm. Now it's thick cloud and sleet.

Made in 1968
30-03-2020, 19:14
My apologies, I expect I missed the explanation due to not having read everything that was ever posted. I'm sure I'll come across it at some point :)

You should pay more attention to vital posts

:lol:

Pigmy Pony
31-03-2020, 06:53
You should pay more attention to vital posts

:lol:

Only one vital post in my life, and it's not had any attention lately :(

I really need to find other ways to exercise, but it's hard with this Crap Weather for March, and I have no interest in any of this Mr Motivator type nonsense. My normal working day would involve an amount of up-and-down ladders, but there's no jobs need done up there, and besides I live in a bungalow with my carer and special needs nurse.

struth
31-03-2020, 08:43
About 6c and cloudy.. Fairly dark today. Don't think it'll rain but it's dampish

Marco
31-03-2020, 08:49
Nice sunny, dry morning here and so far 7C:)

Marco.

walpurgis
31-03-2020, 08:51
Nice sunny, dry morning here and so far 7C:)

Marco.

Same here. A few fluffy clouds about.

Marco
31-03-2020, 08:59
Time for a pooch walk?:)

Marco.

rmcin626
31-03-2020, 09:01
Dry so far 7c

hifi_dave
31-03-2020, 09:16
Few clouds and bright Sun, so far.

Macca
31-03-2020, 09:20
So sunny here I had to close the curtains because I couldn't see the computer screens.

Forecast says it warms up a lot at the weekend.

walpurgis
31-03-2020, 09:28
Time for a pooch walk?:)

Marco.

Usually after 11am Marco.

walpurgis
31-03-2020, 09:32
Forecast says it warms up a lot at the weekend.

Good. I need some warmer weather, things to do outside and it's too cold right now.

Pigmy Pony
31-03-2020, 09:35
Nice sunny, dry morning here and so far 7C:) Currently on the balcony showing my arse to passers-by :)

Marco.

And Wrexham thank you for it! :D

Marco
31-03-2020, 10:03
Yes, I frightened a few yesterday,

Marco.