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AndrewR
07-03-2020, 14:45
Hi all,

I am considering a new cartridge to replace a Linn Klyde, and would like a moving magnet / moving iron so that I can easily replace the stylus (in future) without having to remove the Ekos 2 from my LP12.

I have been hearing good things about the Nagaoka brand, and am considering either an MP-150, MP-200 or MP-300.

Would Nagaoka cartridges suit the Ekos 2? I am not sure whether their mass & compliance would suit the 11.5g effective mass of the arm. MP-150 and MP-200 are about 6.5g in weight and a dynamic compliance: of 6.0 x 10-6 cm/dyne.

In addition, would the MP-300's Allen bolt (that locks the stylus in place from the side) mean that I would have to remove the Ekos 2 anyway when I eventually replace the stylus?

Thoughts, advice, experiences are all welcome.

Thank you.

Andrew

steve-z
07-03-2020, 14:56
Only had the MP110 personally but found it to be an excellent cartridge, pretty sure arm matching would not be a problem, worked fine on the RB330 on my Planar 3. A friend of mine also started with and liked the MP110 and decided to move up to the 150 but found it a bit bright/ thin sounding in comparison, as always it depends on the balance of the rest of the setup.


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CageyH
07-03-2020, 15:26
I think the MP200 is the sweet spot in the range.
No idea if it will suit though.

AndrewR
08-03-2020, 00:08
Thank you Steve and Kevin. I am almost ready to buy the MP-200 with a Graham Slee Reflex M phono stage.

Andrew

Made in 1968
08-03-2020, 00:21
The Nag '200' & 'Klyde' are pretty much in the same ball park where Compliance is concerned so dont see any matching probs.

CageyH
08-03-2020, 07:38
Thank you Steve and Kevin. I am almost ready to buy the MP-200 with a Graham Slee Reflex M phono stage.

Andrew

The Reflex M is nice, but the Accession is better.

AndrewR
15-06-2020, 11:22
Just to follow up on this one.

Bought an MP200 and gave it to the dealer to have fitted with a number of upgrades. Got a call from the dealer setting up the LP12. It turns out that the MP200 is too big for the Ekos 2's headshell (doh!!!), meaning there is overhang and no room at the back to fit the arm cable to the pins...

Downer :(

Now I am looking for another MM. It looks like an Ortofon 2M Black would be too big as well for the Ekos 2's headshell.

I do have a K9 that I could add a VM95 stylus to.

Andrew

hifi_dave
15-06-2020, 11:41
The Ekos does have a very small headshell, so it is difficult to fit many cartridges.

worrasf
18-06-2020, 13:26
Might I suggest you consider the Goldring 2500?

It's quite small physically and to my ears sounds quite superb. I bought mine a few months ago after fancying a change from MC's and I've not gone back.
I use it with a Rothwell Simplex phono stage and Fidelity Audio LPSU.

Just my two penneth

Steve



Just to follow up on this one.

Bought an MP200 and gave it to the dealer to have fitted with a number of upgrades. Got a call from the dealer setting up the LP12. It turns out that the MP200 is too big for the Ekos 2's headshell (doh!!!), meaning there is overhang and no room at the back to fit the arm cable to the pins...

Downer :(

Now I am looking for another MM. It looks like an Ortofon 2M Black would be too big as well for the Ekos 2's headshell.

I do have a K9 that I could add a VM95 stylus to.

Andrew

hifi_dave
18-06-2020, 14:37
It's the length of the cartridge which is important as the headshell is very short front to back. It was designed to be used with Linn cartridges of the time Asak, Asaka, Troika etc.

worrasf
18-06-2020, 15:42
FWIW the distance between the mounting holes and rear of the pins is 15 mm on the G 2500 (just measured it in case it helps )