Latest Scam !!!!

[Audio Al]

This is the latest scam around my area

Dig dong on the door bell

Open the door and confronted by a African man offering a handshake

Hollo Sir my name is Anthony I live just down the road , I work for the Royal Mail and don't get paid until tomorrow , We have no electric and have just had a baby , Could you help me out with £10 until tomorrow ?

So what do you do ? slam the door in his face or show some compassion ?

£10 handed over sort of makes you fell good helping out someone in need :)

3 day later has the £10 been returned , NO it hasn't , Taken for a mug , How can people do this and still sleep at night :doh:

Yes it was me that was will to help another human :(

[RobbieGong]

Scamming will never end, If it isnt one thing it's another, been happening since time began sadly.

It comes and it goes and it comes back again, in one guise or the other, unfortunately.

We just have to say no, I dont have it, politely but firmly, as hard as that sometimes is, cause being duped can sometimes end up a lot worse than just the pain or embarrassment of being taken advantage of

[Made in 1968]

Anyone who rings your bell & gives you a bunch of bollox like that you tell him to piss of, For one its out of order & secondly he said he worked for RM, he then has a job & there is no reason what so ever to borrow money.. First rule in life, never trust anyone.

[Macca]

Just don't answer the door unless you are expecting someone.

I mean it's never going to be good news is it? Just somebody who wants something from you.

[struth]

demand his clothes as hostage;)

[RobbieGong]

Anyone who rings your bell & gives you a bunch of bollox like that you tell him to piss of, For one its out of order & secondly he said he worked for RM, he then has a job & there is no reason what so ever to borrow money.. First rule in life, never trust anyone.

Sad, but true.

There's a saying Jamaican older folk have always said, remember hearing it numerous times as a kid, goes;

" Sorry fi mawga dawg, mawga dawg tun roun bite you "

In other words, "You feel sorry for the meagre/ skinny dog, it turns around and bites you" ...... wise words of warning / life survival skills.

[WESTLOWER]

Blimey, “Never trust anyone” that’s a very bleak view of fellow man. :(
I Just couldn’t live like that.

[Made in 1968]

Get real man ffks

[WESTLOWER]

Get real man ffks

Pardon ?

[WESTLOWER]

It’s my opinion!

Use one’s noddle, but I still feel it’s fundamental that you
Trust people. It’s a sad depressing way to live a life not
Trusting Anyone. There’s always going to be bell ends who try to take advantage of a good heart. I wouldn’t let that change my fundamentals on trust.

God, I hope people don’t teach that “trust no one” stuff to kids.

[RobbieGong]

Trust no one here is surely in the context of a total stranger approaching you with a story of some kind - that's how I'm reading it and responded accordingly.

In that context then, it's a case of exercising at least an initial degree of caution/suspicion, definitely / surely?

To just exercise total abandonment of any caution/suspicion for total trust seems a bit child like innocence, an ideal which for me cant be applied here on planet earth, with mankind as is.

As I say, I'm speaking in the context of ....

[WESTLOWER]

As I said .. use ones noddle !

But “trust no one” in any context is just odd to me.

[RobbieGong]

As I said .. use ones noddle !

But “trust no one” in any context is just odd to me.

You finding it odd in the context outlined seems odd to me. Using ones noddle I'd expect to be standard....

[struth]

You need to trust someone sometime or life becomes pretty pointless.
Not to say you should just take folk you know nothing if at face value tho.
But the old idiom, fool me once, shame on you.. Fool me twice, shame on me, is appropriate

[WESTLOWER]

You need to trust someone sometime or life becomes pretty pointless.
Not to say you should just take folk you know nothing if at face value tho.
But the old adage, fool me once, shame on you.. Fool me twice, shame on me, is appropriate

+1 Grant

All I said, quoting the post “first rule, never trust anyone” was a shit sad way to live your life. It’s a broad brush to use in any context.

[Made in 1968]

You clearly gone thru life with out a single hick up with people then i presume?

O the joy of being perfect :lol:

[RobbieGong]

Broad brush and in the context are two different things in my book, but hey ho

[Macca]

Trust is always relative - if the bloke had asked Al for a borrow of £200 instead of a tenner would Al have given him it? I know I wouldn't. But a tenner is about right amount that anyone decent would take a chance and hand it over. He never comes back it's not that big a hit.

Of course mr con man knows this so he doesn't go for the big money.

[Made in 1968]

£10 is £10. People graft for an hour for £10 for some git to get it free gratis.. Im sorry but there is way too many of this kind of people knocking about, vastly overshadows honest people hence you can trust no one & that is exactly what i do.

[WESTLOWER]

You clearly gone thru life with out a single hick up with people then i presume?

O the joy of being perfect :lol:

Don’t be daft!
Of course there have been many instances of trust that gets you fucked over, and yes I’ve been on the blunt end a few times...but it’s about having enough belief that not everyone is out to stiff you...

Rule number one hasn’t been altered in my book...by the odd time of being done.
You stating Rule number one, trust no one, means what trust you once had has gone.
I just said that was a grim way to live life.

As being being utterly perfect, oh yes!, you’re a very fine judge of character sir ;)

[Made in 1968]

Don’t be daft!
Of course there have been many instances of trust that gets you fucked over, and yes I’ve been on the blunt end a few times...but it’s about having enough belief that not everyone is out to stiff you...



Fine take your chances but your in for another fall at some point, where as i certainly aint.

;)

[WESTLOWER]

Fine take your chances but your in for another fall as some point, where as i certainly aint.

;)

I hear you, but I don’t want to live Life like that :cool:

[Macca]

£10 is £10. People graft for an hour for £10 for some git to get it free gratis.. Im sorry but there is way too many of this kind of people knocking about, vastly overshadows honest people hence you can trust no one & that is exactly what i do.

Yeah I make about that. But that's not the point. And he didn't get it for nothing, he has to go out knocking on doors and doing his bullshit. Crime is work just like any other work. Okay so he could make a hundred an hour, but it's a lot of walking and knocking and bullshitting, and being told to piss off. Plus the outside chance of being nicked. Rather do my job than that.

[WESTLOWER]

Yeah I make about that. But that's not the point. And he didn't get it for nothing, he has to go out knocking on doors and doing his bullshit. Crime is work just like any other work. Okay so he could make a hundred an hour, but it's a lot of walking and knocking and bullshitting, and being told to piss off. Plus the outside chance of being nicked. Rather do my job than that.

I reckon he feels like a hot meat stroker at the end of the day though! ;)

[dave2010]

Trust is always relative - if the bloke had asked Al for a borrow of £200 instead of a tenner would Al have given him it? I know I wouldn't. But a tenner is about right amount that anyone decent would take a chance and hand it over. He never comes back it's not that big a hit.

Of course mr con man knows this so he doesn't go for the big money.Yes, but did he do all the neighbours in the street? With a hit rate of 50% and 20-30 houses to visit, he could make £100-£150 per hour. If it was a “one off” to buy a beer or some fags you’d probably never know.

[walpurgis]

Just open the door running a big carving knife up and down an oil stone, they tend to go a bit quiet then. No law against it of course, after all, you were disturbed during food preparation. :)

[Light Dependant Resistor]

I would either not open the door, or if opened simply say, sorry I have nothing,

The approach of anyone door-knocking outright asking for money we know is quite wrong - so should not be entertained at all.
It is human to have compassion but the approach of door -knocking is wrong, and the person at your door knows this full well.

A dog if you have one can be a very good judge of character, My dog instantly makes a decision ,invariably the right one, and will stay
at the door if it is someone who should deserve being greeted. If its someone he does not know he will run to me first - to warn

[Pigmy Pony]

I would either not open the door, or if opened simply say, sorry I have nothing,

The approach of anyone door-knocking outright asking for money we know is quite wrong - so should not be entertained at all.
It is human to have compassion but the approach of door -knocking is wrong, and the person at your door knows this full well.

A dog if you have one can be a very good judge of character, My dog instantly makes a decision ,invariably the right one, and will stay
at the door if it is someone who should deserve being greeted. If its someone he does not know he will run to me first - to warn

I'm one of those who are always ready to trust - occasionally it may lead to you being had over, but in order to prevent this I'd have to stop trusting folk, and I really wouldn't want to live like that. Anita is the polar opposite, viewing the world around her and everyone in it with suspicion. Between the two of us we make one reasonably competent and functioning human being - just :)

[Made in 1968]

See my wife is the total opposite to me, She trusts everyone & does indeed get worked over, which always ends in tears, i do warn her but the same always happens.

:rolleyes:

I understand that a lot of people dont want to go thru life not trusting people but mine is out of experiences i have no intention happening again Cant help it i just learn easily.. An ex wife i put all my trust in took me for everything & that was no stranger..

People that get shit on from a great height that go do it all again are a little bit like say someone being involved in a serious car crash, fighting for life to recover & go get in a car once again..

Once bitten, twice shy with me

[Barry]

Al - you should have asked where 'down the road does he live', and what is his house number. Now that he has been paid (according to his sob story), why not go round to his house and ask for your money back?

[Audio Al]

Great advice now its to late , I was taken for a mug , I'v got over it now so case closed

[Landloper]

'£10 handed over sort of makes you fell good helping out someone in need...'

Try to look at the matter in a different way and lighten your grief: you paid £10 to have that 'sort of feel good feeling'. You may feel in retrospect that £10 was too much for the pleasure, but you have had something in return for your money,

When I have been approached [only a couple of times over the last two years, both times on the street] I've either declined or simply given the money without the least expectation of it being returned, despite the fervid asservations that every penny will be returned to me if I write down my address [no chance!]. The great difficulty is in getting them to drop the spiel that is intended to make you feel they are genuine and just state the amount they are asking for.

On the bright side - now you've had the feeling of being virtuous you can try to enjoy the feeling of indignation naturally felt by any good-hearted fellow that has had his kindness abused by a man who appeared on his doorstep and lied to him and conned him out of a tenner.

In the days when we had tramps they had a system of signs left outside or near a house, whereby other tramps could see if a particular house would give food or money to them, or warnings of unfriendliness and so on. You may, sooner or later, get another visit as the recipient of the £10 may pass on to others that your address came up trumps.

[Marco]

Hi "Joanna",

I've asked you this question already, which you failed to answer last time, so could you please explain why a middle-aged man (as you said you were in your welcome thread) has a woman's first name?

Sorry to press you on this, but I need to rule out any trolling. Cheers!:)

Marco.

P.S I *do* require an answer on this, if necessary via PM.

[Landloper]

Marco: no need for PMs unless you indicate to me you'd rather communicate that way. I saw your post asking me to put my name up, but not your post asking me to explain why a middle-aged man would use a woman's name. The answer is because sometimes I prefer to use Joanna not John, just like I prefer to use make up sometimes and sometimes not. I've lived like that since my late teens. You are the site owner, and if you don't want me here, that's your decision. This is private property, your property, and I'm here as a guest and have no rights of access other than by your grace. Frankly, it wouldn't be the first time I've been asked to leave over the same issue. That said, I'll assume you are tolerant and easy going and were just puzzled. I hope my reply has allayed any concerns you may have.

[Shovel_Knight]

Maybe I'm a softie but I think that it's always better to show compassion. Even if the person who asks for money is suspicious, I wouldn't really be any worse if I give them 5-10 euro, but this money could be very handy for somebody in reduced circumstances. Obviously I have been scammed many times, but there were times when I thought I would be scammed but was proven wrong. And it was totally worth it.

[Landloper]

In other words the act of generosity or virtue is sufficient to itself. The money not being returned is not the point if the initial impulse was one of charity. I can't remeber the person who said it, but the goodness of the act benefits the doer regardless of the conduct of the recipient.

[Marco]

Marco: no need for PMs unless you indicate to me you'd rather communicate that way. I saw your post asking me to put my name up, but not your post asking me to explain why a middle-aged man would use a woman's name. The answer is because sometimes I prefer to use Joanna not John, just like I prefer to use make up sometimes and sometimes not. I've lived like that since my late teens. You are the site owner, and if you don't want me here, that's your decision. This is private property, your property, and I'm here as a guest and have no rights of access other than by your grace. Frankly, it wouldn't be the first time I've been asked to leave over the same issue. That said, I'll assume you are tolerant and easy going and were just puzzled. I hope my reply has allayed any concerns you may have.

No problem whatsoever, Joanna or John - that's absolutely fine. AoS is all-inclusive for nice people!:)

Marco.

[Landloper]

No problem whatsoever, Joanna or John - that's absolutely fine. AoS is all-inclusive for nice people!

Marco.

Sweet is reconcilement to the heart of man [Carlyle]

[Alex_UK]

Absolutely John/Joanna, diversity is welcomed here, but please don’t take any offence as there is a longstanding “thing” some of us here do making references to cross-dressing, but it is all harmless fun, we hope.

[Alex_UK]

Back on topic, I’m one of life’s softies who won’t worry about a few quid for someone desperate for a fag or swig of whisky... but a few times I’ve offered them a “job” in return for decent money. Come back to my house, and spend a couple of hours gardening or cleaning and I’ll give you twenty quid. How many do you think have taken me up on the offer? Correct, none...

[Landloper]

Thanks. I'm not offended by that kind of larking - and even if i was it wouldn't matter. Free speech is more important than my feelings.

[Alex_UK]

Thanks. I'm not offended by that kind of larking - and even if i was it wouldn't matter. Free speech is more important than my feelings.

Well I agree to a point, but if I was offending anyone I would shut my gob! But appreciated you won’t be offended if we regress to our childish banter. Which we surely will! :)

[Marco]

Indeed, as long as you don't upstage Alex's frock collection, you'll be fine:D

Marco.