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OldRecordLover
14-12-2019, 14:29
I've just joined and am looking forward to learning and contributing. As you might guess from my forum name, I'm a record collector (mostly 45s,78s and LPs) and have nice classic hi-fi - Garrard 301/SME 3009, Garrard 401/SME 3012, Quad 22/IIs. I'm trying to get the best possible sound to suit my tastes (and budget) so will probably be asking for advice from people who understand these things better than I do (which isn't hard). Thanks for having me.

southall-1998_mk2
14-12-2019, 18:23
Howdy! Welcome to AOS.

Have fun.

S.

Barry
14-12-2019, 19:31
Welcome to AoS Al.

Regarding your system, what cartridge do you use to play 78s, and what are your speakers?

Enjoy the Forum
Barry

OldRecordLover
14-12-2019, 21:19
Thanks for the comments.

These are what I use:

78s
Audio Technica AT-Mono3/SP
I'm considering getting an Ortofon SPU Mono CG 65 Di MkII

45s/LPs
Benz Micro Glider SH
Shure M44G
Shure M44G wired mono
I've just bought an Ortofon SPU Mono CG 25 Di MkII to replace the Benz - once I can figure out the weighting, I'm really looking forward to trying it.

Speakers
Goodmans Midax 550/Whiteley Stentorian/Goodmans Trebax 100 in custom-made 1960s (?) cabinets (inherited).

I've thought about checking out Quad ESL63s or (possibly) some affordable Tannoys but have never heard either. In my office, I use Wharfedale Diamond IIIs (again, inherited) with my 401.

It's not hi-tech at all, but I do enjoy the sound I get. Since I mostly just listen to old records (used - cleaned on a Loricraft RCM) rather than audiophile pressings I'm looking for a different sound from people who listen to Beatles/jazz/classical records etc but would welcome comments from anyone.

Barry
14-12-2019, 22:38
Do you use a separate SUT or head amp with your Quad 22 when using the moving-coil cartridges? Or is there a specific adaptor you plug into the back of the Quad 22?

Who designed your speakers? The drive units they employ are very good, but the cabinet might not be allowing them to give of their best. I can't suggest a Tannoy design as I'm not familiar with the range. For advice on Tannoy speakers I would refer you to either Geoff (walpurgis) or Tom (montesquieu), who collectively have a knowledge of Tannoys that is second to none on this forum.

I used Quad 57s when I had a Quad 22/2xII set up, and continue to use them with other (solid state) amplifiers.


I'm not sure I understand by what you mean when you say "Since I mostly just listen to old records (used - cleaned on a Loricraft RCM) rather than audiophile pressings I'm looking for a different sound from people who listen to Beatles/jazz/classical records etc."

Most of us here have a lot of old records in their collection (some bought used) and do not solely listen to 'audiophile' pressings. A good system should allow you to get the best out of any record played, and not be dependant on the record itself.

walpurgis
15-12-2019, 08:01
Hello Al. Welcome to AOS.

That's an interesting selection of equipment you're using, quite a bit of which I've owned myself. There are many fans of vintage British gear here.

Take a look around the site, you'll find every aspect of Hi-Fi is covered and there's plenty about music too.

Join in the chat and get to know everybody, it's a friendly place.


Enjoy the forum,
Geoff.

OldRecordLover
15-12-2019, 13:03
Thank you, Barry.

The cartridges go into the Quad 22 control unit and then into the IIs. A while ago, I tried a Pro-Ject Phono Box DS+ - I didn't get on with it but I'm sure I sure there's something else I could add to improve things.

I'm sure I'd love 57s but I'm don't know how well they'd physically fit in my room (which is why I mentioned the 63s). The cabinets I have are very solid closed units with a crossover box for each. They were built by a relative who really did seem to know his stuff, judging by his workshop and the stacks of detailed correspondence with manufacturers/engineers, wiring diagrams, notes etc we found when he passed.

I probably should have mentioned that in addition to my low level of technical knowledge, I have pretty poor eyesight. It's not a great combination and means that I'm not comfortable adjusting tonearms or doing simple electrical or servicing work. If anyone knows somebody who might offer paid assistance, I'd reallly appreciate that. (I'm in SE London.)

It's great to hear that there are others here who listen to and enjoy records in less than perfect condition! I look forward to joining in more once I've "found my feet" a bit. Thanks again for your time.

OldRecordLover
15-12-2019, 13:07
Hello Al. Welcome to AOS.

That's an interesting selection of equipment you're using, quite a bit of which I've owned myself. There are many fans of vintage British gear here.

Take a look around the site, you'll find every aspect of Hi-Fi is covered and there's plenty about music too.

Join in the chat and get to know everybody, it's a friendly place.


Enjoy the forum,
Geoff.

Thank you, Geoff - most kind. I've had a look at some of the sub groups but it's not always easy for me to figure out "where things go". For example, I have a question about a mechanical issue I'm having with my SME 3009 - what's the best place to discuss that?

walpurgis
15-12-2019, 13:11
Thank you, Geoff - most kind. I've had a look at some of the sub groups but it's not always easy for me to figure out "where things go". For example, I have a question about a mechanical issue I'm having with my SME 3009 - what's the best place to discuss that?

Try Analogue Arts Al. Feel free to start your own thread and ask your questions, it's easy enough to do.

For discussion about any other of your vintage equipment the Past Masters section may be more appropriate.

Barry
15-12-2019, 21:51
Whereabouts in SE London are you Al? I frequently visit NW6, but if you are near an Underground station (I refuse to drive in London) I could perhaps be able to help you with your system. Wouldn't be able to do anything until the New Year though.

What is the problem with the SME arm?

struth
15-12-2019, 22:01
Welcome aboard. Good luck with ur project

OldRecordLover
16-12-2019, 20:57
Whereabouts in SE London are you Al? I frequently visit NW6, but if you are near an Underground station (I refuse to drive in London) I could perhaps be able to help you with your system. Wouldn't be able to do anything until the New Year though.

What is the problem with the SME arm?

I've posted a thread here (https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?67187-Problem-with-my-SME-3009), Barry.

I'm in SE6, which isn't near a tube station but it's easy to reach from Charing Cross/Waterloo/London Bridge/Blackfriars. I'm in no real rush, so if you think you can help in the new year, then please PM me. Thanks for replying.

smangus
16-12-2019, 22:30
I've posted a thread here (https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?67187-Problem-with-my-SME-3009), Barry.

I'm in SE6, which isn't near a tube station but it's easy to reach from Charing Cross/Waterloo/London Bridge/Blackfriars. I'm in no real rush, so if you think you can help in the new year, then please PM me. Thanks for replying.As a fellow Catfordian welcome! [emoji106]

Robbiegong is just down the road too, so we have you surrounded [emoji846][emoji846]

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OldRecordLover
17-12-2019, 08:59
As a fellow Catfordian welcome! [emoji106]

Robbiegong is just down the road too, so we have you surrounded [emoji846][emoji846]



That's good to know, Andy...are either of you into vintage equipment? If you ever feel like saying hello, drop me a message - thanks!

smangus
17-12-2019, 21:09
That's good to know, Andy...are either of you into vintage equipment? If you ever feel like saying hello, drop me a message - thanks!

Thanks , most of my gear is les less than 15 years old so no not really. I do have a pair of hpd tannoy drivers though which would count. Still trying to grt them into cabs though lol.

OldRecordLover
18-12-2019, 10:21
Thanks , most of my gear is les less than 15 years old so no not really. I do have a pair of hpd tannoy drivers though which would count. Still trying to grt them into cabs though lol.
Some things take time... ;) Well, if you can think of anyone local-ish who might be prepared to help setting things up/adjusting tonearms etc, I'd love to know and am happy to pay. I tried the guys at Billy Vee but they only work on more modern equipment, I think.

Barry
16-01-2020, 19:59
I've posted a thread here (https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?67187-Problem-with-my-SME-3009), Barry.

I'm in SE6, which isn't near a tube station but it's easy to reach from Charing Cross/Waterloo/London Bridge/Blackfriars. I'm in no real rush, so if you think you can help in the new year, then please PM me. Thanks for replying.

Looks like your problem with the 3009 has been solved. Well done! :)