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Audio Al
16-10-2019, 05:09
OK come on you lot , Who was or is brave enough to have one ?
I had mine again yesterday , coz i'm a good old boy :D
walpurgis
16-10-2019, 07:14
Had it a couple of weeks ago. It hardly requires any bravery.
Never had a flu jab. Probably only had *proper* flu about six times in my life, if that - and none, touch wood [touches his big bonce] for about seven years... I've not even had a cold, or so much as a sniffle, in about 4 years.
I don't mingle much with people, other than friends and family, or spend a lot of time anywhere I'm liable to pick up germs or viruses, so unless Del brings it into the house, I'm generally (naturally) flu-free:)
Marco.
Never had a flu jab. Probably only had *proper* flu about six times in my life, if that - and none, touch wood [touches his big bonce] for about seven years... I've not even had a cold, or so much as a sniffle, in about 4 years.
I don't mingle much with people, other than friends and family, or spend a lot of time anywhere I'm liable to pick up germs or viruses, so unless Del brings it into the house, I'm generally (naturally) flu-free:)
Marco.
i use hand sterile gel when im out. got it in car etc. your more likely to catch things off of surfaces like trolleys and doors. so a use the gel when i get back to car. that and the jab, which ive had every year bar one for a long time. im in the very high risk group apparently.:lol:
i use hand sterile gel when im out. got it in car etc. your more likely to catch things off of surfaces like trolleys and doors. so a use the gel when i get back to car
That's a very good point, and so do we - when we remember... It's an effective preventative measure:)
However, it's not like I'm 'out and about' all that much and coming into contact with communal surfaces on a daily basis [computer keyboards in offices and such like are the worse], or mingling much with the general public, or have kids bringing in germs from school. The majority of the time, I'm alone indoors or with Del, and thankfully she's not the type who catches colds or flus easily either.
What puts me off getting the flu jab isn't any fear of needles, but apparently afterwards you can experience mild symptoms of the flu (as you're essentially being injected with a strain of the virus, which acts as an antidote), and I can't be arsed feeling unwell (in any way, however temporary), simply to be immunised against something I rarely get.
Marco.
Had mine about 3 weeks ago just a bit of an aching arm muscle where the needle went in for a couple of days afterwards, then after about two weeks feeling decidedly rough, shivery and under the weather which maybe lasted for 6 hours. (Never had this feeling rough before and I have the flu jab every year for the last 10 years or maybe more)
Had mine last week, no discomfort or ill effects of any kind.
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Had mine about 3 weeks ago just a bit of an aching arm muscle where the needle went in for a couple of days afterwards, then after about two weeks feeling decidedly rough, shivery and under the weather which maybe lasted for 6 hours. (Never had this feeling rough before and I have the flu jab every year for the last 10 years or maybe more)
A case in point, from my last post! Sorry to hear that, Andy.
This sort of thing might be unlikely, or rare, but for me feeling that way because of something that was essentially self-inflicted would go against the grain and be a royal PITA, as I'm just not used to feeling ill. However, I fully realise that contracting full-blown flu would be rather worse, but with my history so far, I'm willing to take the risk.
Marco.
That's a very good point, and so do we - when we remember... It's an effective preventative measure.
However, it's not like I'm 'out and about' all that much and coming into contact with communal surfaces on a daily basis [computer keyboards in offices and such like are the worse], or mingling much with the general public, or have kids bringing in germs from school. The majority of the time, I'm alone indoors or with Del, and thankfully she's not the type who catches colds or flus easily either.
What puts me off getting the flu jab isn't any fear of needles, but apparently afterwards you can experience mild symptoms of the flu (as you're essentially being injected with a strain of the virus, which acts as an antidote), and I can't be arsed feeling unwell (in any way, however temporary), simply to be immunised against something I rarely get.
Marco.
never had that so far.. im not bothered too much by needles, as i just dont look:eek:
walpurgis
16-10-2019, 08:23
That's assuming that two weeks on it had anything to do with the flu jab at all. I've been having the jab for over ten years and have never experienced any after effects of any kind. It's a sight better than catching a full on dose of flu.
Unlike the shingles jab I had a week or so ago, which is still red and itchy.
never had that so far.. im not bothered too much by needles, as i just dont look:eek:
Hope you don't get it either. I don't intend finding out any time soon. I seem to have a pretty strong constitution and good immune system. However, as you get older you're less able to fight off such things, and real flu in an older person can be a very serious matter.
So.... I might treat myself to wee jab-ette for my 70th birthday!:D
Marco.
That's assuming that two weeks on it had anything to do with the flu jab at all. I've been having the jab for over ten years and have never experienced any after effects of any kind. It's a sight better than catching a full on dose of flu.
Unlike the shingles jab I had a week or so ago, which is still red and itchy.
Hope it clears up soon, Geoff.
With the flu jab, I think it largely depends on the individual. I've known folks who get weeping eyes and sniffles, and/or feel like crap for a few hours, or even a day or so afterwards, but most people seem to be ok.
Marco.
shingles is a bugger, so its worth putting up with a bit of a sore arm i think.. something like 10/15% get a reaction apparently so you been unlucky.
Audio Al
16-10-2019, 08:46
The only symptoms I have had are very slight rise in temperature and a sort of metallic taste in my mouth for an hour or so other than that all good , And the best part is its free , Good old NHS :)
Had mine a couple of weeks back. Have had them for five years or so, never had any adverse effects from needle or contents thereof.
Audio Al
16-10-2019, 09:09
Hope you don't get it either. I don't intend finding out any time soon. I seem to have a pretty strong constitution and good immune system. However, as you get older you're less able to fight off such things, and real flu in an older person can be a very serious matter.
So.... I might treat myself to wee jab-ette for my 70th birthday!:D
Marco.
I try not to laugh when the nurse says " Don't worry you will only feel a little prick "
Thats what I told the ex wife ;) however I do tell fibs :lol:
Well, apparently the serum used for flu jabs is similar to that applied in penis enlargement, so next time you're there, pop out your flaccid two-inches, and see if the nurse can 'assist'...:eyebrows:
Marco.
Well, apparently the serum used for flu jabs is similar to that applied in penis enlargement, so next time you're there, pop out your flaccid two-inches, and see if the nurse can 'assist'...:eyebrows:
Marco.
so thats why there is a shortage of flu vaccines.. youve been in for your dick pricking:D
maverick2000
16-10-2019, 10:08
I regard these jabs as like airport security - protecting against the last threat not the next - I have no issues with needles as I have to have regular blood tests, I have a theory about inverse relationship between size of the phlebotomist and the size of the subsequent bruise! (and yes even my Doctor thinks I am slightly* mad). Actually thinking back the out of the 3 people I know who had the jab last year, 2 of them contracted the new nasty strain of flu :scratch:
Any of us old giffers had the jab against pneumonia? Does seem to be worth considering . . .
* YMMV
Audio Al
16-10-2019, 10:22
I think these things offered are prevention rather than a cure :)
Actually thinking back the out of the 3 people I know who had the jab last year, 2 of them contracted the new nasty strain of flu :scratch:
Very interesting, Paul... I have similar thoughts myself, and can't help but think that the latter above, is somehow intrinsically linked with the former. I realise though, that if you suffer from some form of condition(s), and so have no other option for that reason but to pump your body full of drugs and chemicals, then there's no escaping from it.
However, as someone who's been fortunate so far to have generally enjoyed good health, my view (and which is also that of my 86-year old father, who's still fit as a fiddle) is to take the least amount of tablets and potions as possible, because there are always side-effects, many of which can be rather unpleasant and also sometimes unpredictable.
Regular usage of such almost always fucks you up in some way, so you end up having to deal with THAT, as well as the condition(s) that the drugs were designed to treat! Consequently, I resist taking even paracetamol for headaches, unless they're really bad (which is rare), as wherever possible, I'd rather suffer the pain than pump my system full of chemicals.
Marco.
It doesnt cover u for all versions, and isnt deffo going to stop you getting a bad flu or chest infection. But it does help for 99% of folk.
I remember being in the isolation ward with swine flu. 2 of the folk there had the flu jab but i dont think swine flu was covered.
Of the 12 folk in the 2 isolation wards, 3 died. I was fortunate it only left me with asthma,which i never had before.
Never had flu or a flu jab, never use hand sanitiser and mix with all kinds of vile people on a daily basis.
Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I have a good immune system?
The only time I use anti-septic hand gel is when I'm travelling, and just before I eat, as often there is no convenient way to wash one's hands. Otherwise I just take my chances.
I have annual flu jabs, as I'm over 65, but only once did I suffer side effects: a very sore arm for three days.
I would urge everyone to have a'flu jab - especially if you are over 65 and/or have a compromised immune system.
Last year 600 people died of the 'flu; in 2008-9 it was 13 000! (UK figs).
'Flu is not just the common cold but worse -it's utterly debilitating for at least 3 days. To not have one when offered is selfish. We need to get the figure up to near 90% of at-risk patients for 'herd-immunity' to kick-in. Similarly, and perhaps even more important, is a measles jab. The advice I was given was that it's no good saying 'I had it in my childhood' so must be immune. One must have been infected at least twice and had the result confirmed by a path lab. One's GP's opinion based on the symptoms is no longer regarded as being good enough. Please disregard entirely the fake-news of the ignorant anti-vaccers.
I've been getting them for tears as before I was at risk I cared for my wife and she was so I got jabbed too. So probably 20years
hifinutt
16-10-2019, 18:25
I would urge everyone to have a'flu jab - especially if you are over 65 and/or have a compromised immune system.
Last year 600 people died of the 'flu; in 2008-9 it was 13 000! (UK figs).
'Flu is not just the common cold but worse -it's utterly debilitating for at least 3 days. To not have one when offered is selfish. We need to get the figure up to near 90% of at-risk patients for 'herd-immunity' to kick-in. Similarly, and perhaps even more important, is a measles jab. The advice I was given was that it's no good saying 'I had it in my childhood' so must be immune. One must have been infected at least twice and had the result confirmed by a path lab. One's GP's opinion based on the symptoms is no longer regarded as being good enough. Please disregard entirely the fake-news of the ignorant anti-vaccers.
Brilliantly put bonky
hifinutt
16-10-2019, 18:27
although it is good to use hand gel , it may not stop flu , flu spreads like this :
The flu virus is contained in the millions of tiny droplets that come out of the nose and mouth when someone who is infected coughs or sneezes.
These droplets typically spread about one metre. They hang suspended in the air for a while before landing on surfaces, where the virus can survive for up to 24 hours.
Anyone who breathes in the droplets can catch flu. You can also catch the virus by touching the surfaces that the droplets have landed on if you pick up the virus on your hands and then touch your nose or mouth.
Everyday items at home and in public places can easily become contaminated with the flu virus, including food, door handles, remote controls, handrails, telephone handsets and computer keyboards. Therefore, it's important to wash your hands frequently.
You can catch flu many times because flu viruses change regularly and your body won't have a natural resistance to the new versions.
https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/infections-and-poisoning/flu
Audio Al
16-10-2019, 18:46
although it is good to use hand gel , it may not stop flu , flu spreads like this :
The flu virus is contained in the millions of tiny droplets that come out of the nose and mouth when someone who is infected coughs or sneezes.
These droplets typically spread about one metre. They hang suspended in the air for a while before landing on surfaces, where the virus can survive for up to 24 hours.
Anyone who breathes in the droplets can catch flu. You can also catch the virus by touching the surfaces that the droplets have landed on if you pick up the virus on your hands and then touch your nose or mouth.
Everyday items at home and in public places can easily become contaminated with the flu virus, including food, door handles, remote controls, handrails, telephone handsets and computer keyboards. Therefore, it's important to wash your hands frequently.
You can catch flu many times because flu viruses change regularly and your body won't have a natural resistance to the new versions.
https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/infections-and-poisoning/flu
Thats it :eek: I'm never going out again eating or drinking or touching anything ever again . And breathing
Im now :deceased:
:D
"You can catch flu many times because flu viruses change regularly and your body won't have a natural resistance to the new versions"
Exactly; its genome is RNA based and not DNA. RNA is a single helix- unlike DNA and not as stable. Thus its mutation rate is so much higher.
Just as important to remember is that there have been scares recently for avian and pig 'flu variants crossing the 'species-barrier' and this infecting us.
Believe me...prevention is better than a possible cure (or death).
In the last month I've had MMR, Rabies and Hep B and C jabs. Earlier: pneumonia and shingles. Why take any risks?
Richard.
Lol, your well covered.. Just dont get hit by a bus.. [emoji23]
I just take what they offer me tbh. My feeling is if they think it wise then who am I to argue.
By all means have jabs if you need them and they're unquestionably beneficial, but don't become a hypochondriac .
I'm 54, and the only jab I've ever had in my life was a BCG, when I was a teenager. I'm almost never ill, take no forms of medication whatsoever, and my doctor doesn't know me.
Please disregard entirely the fake-news of the ignorant anti-vaccers
Not quite sure who you're referring to, Richard?:hmm:
Marco.
" Not quite sure who you're referring to, Richard?"
Not here Marco; heaven forbid!
No - on many 'social' media sites--full of ignorance.
(I'm not a hypochondriac...many of the jabs I've had this year is because I had to go to S India for 3 weeks. -mind you I'm laid-up in bed now with man 'flu!)
Richard.
" Not quite sure who you're referring to, Richard?"
Not here Marco; heaven forbid!
No - on many 'social' media sites--full of ignorance.
(I'm not a hypochondriac...many of the jabs I've had this year is because I had to go to S India for 3 weeks. -mind you I'm laid-up in bed now with man 'flu!)
Ah, that makes sense! Never been outside of Europe myself, but if I were going to somewhere like India, I'd be jabbed up to the max!
Social media? Mostly full of wankers, so I simply don't use it.
Marco.
Sherwood
16-10-2019, 21:06
At the end of last year I became very sick with Influenza A, pneumonia and viral complications. I was in hospital for 6 weeks, much of it in intensive care. I ended up with severe heart damage due to myocarditis, having had no previous problems with blood pressure or heart disease. I am still "recovering" from this episode, from which my consultants did not think I would survive.
My message is to get your flu jabs if you are 60 or over (I was 59 when this episode occurred). We underestimate the serious of the "flu" in this country. It is a potential killer even for the relatively young in good health.
RobbieGong
16-10-2019, 21:18
At the end of last year I became very sick with Influenza A, pneumonia and viral complications. I ended up in hospital for 6 weeks, much of it in intensive care. I ended up with severe heart damage due to myocarditis, having no previous problems with blood pressure or any heart related problems. I am still "recovering" from this episode, from which my consultants did not think I would survive.
My message is to get your flu jabs if you are 60 or over (I was 59 when this episode occurred). We underestimate the serious of the "flu" in this country. It is a potential killer even for the relatively young in good health.
Blimey !!
Sorry to hear what you've been through Geoff and thanks for the testimony / advise.
At the end of last year I became very sick with Influenza A, pneumonia and viral complications. I ended up in hospital for 6 weeks, much of it in intensive care. I ended up with severe heart damage due to myocarditis, having no previous problems with blood pressure or any heart related problems. I am still "recovering" from this episode, from which my consultants did not think I would survive.
My message is to get your flu jabs if you are 60 or over (I was 59 when this episode occurred). We underestimate the serious of the "flu" in this country. It is a potential killer even for the relatively young in good health.
Geoff,
So sorry to hear that. I wish you a speedy recovery and that your life-changing symptoms don't impact too much on your joie-de-vivre.
Best wishes,
Richard,
" Not quite sure who you're referring to, Richard?"
Not here Marco; heaven forbid!
No - on many 'social' media sites--full of ignorance.
Also here:
http://howtheworldreallyworks.info
'"The World Health Organization [WHO]/ United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund [UNICEF] vaccination campaign in Africa is not about eradicating neonatal tetanus, but is a well-coordinated, forceful, population control, mass sterilization exercise using a proven fertility regulating vaccine."
obstetrician/gynecologist Dr. Wahome Ngare, Kenyan Catholic Doctors' Association president,
published a letter in the Kenyan press, November 4, 2014'
Also here:
http://howtheworldreallyworks.info
'"The World Health Organization [WHO]/ United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund [UNICEF] vaccination campaign in Africa is not about eradicating neonatal tetanus, but is a well-coordinated, forceful, population control, mass sterilization exercise using a proven fertility regulating vaccine."
obstetrician/gynecologist Dr. Wahome Ngare, Kenyan Catholic Doctors' Association president,
published a letter in the Kenyan press, November 4, 2014'
Wow! Thanks for the link. Someone really has a bee in their bonnet.
Now we know where Dan Brown gets his storylines from...
Richard
Wow! Thanks for the link. Someone really has a bee in their bonnet.
Now we know where Dan Brown gets his storylines from...
Richard
they inject a tracker into you at same time:doh:
'"The World Health Organization [WHO]/ United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund [UNICEF] vaccination campaign in Africa is not about eradicating neonatal tetanus, but is a well-coordinated, forceful, population control, mass sterilization exercise using a proven fertility regulating vaccine."
Great idea... We badly need some of the 'mongrels', breeding like rabbits, here in the UK, similarly vaccinating! It might improve the quality of the gene pool, and cull the amount of benefits scroungers.
;)
Marco.
maverick2000
17-10-2019, 08:00
Consequently, I resist taking even paracetamol for headaches, unless they're really bad (which is rare), as wherever possible, I'd rather suffer the pain than pump my system full of chemicals.
Marco.
with you on paracetamol Marco, I feel more comfortable taking specific & targetted tablets for a chronic condition that I suffer and that were proscribed by a very impressive Consultant Endocrinologist and who was quite blunt about some drugs proscribed by GPs being like a blunderbuss - I consider paracetamol in that category.
my 2p worth, and thoughts with anyone on this thread who presently suffering, get well soon
walpurgis
17-10-2019, 08:12
There's money to be made from conspiracy theories judging by the number of publications. And all seemingly supported by references, which are unfortunately generated by similarly inclined writers all citing each other to keep the snowball rolling and growing!
with you on paracetamol Marco, I feel more comfortable taking specific & targetted tablets for a chronic condition that I suffer and that were proscribed by a very impressive Consultant Endocrinologist and who was quite blunt about some drugs proscribed by GPs being like a blunderbuss - I consider paracetamol in that category.
my 2p worth, and thoughts with anyone on this thread who presently suffering, get well soon
+1 (very much so) on the last bit.
As for the former, I also completely agree. One must remember what 'GP' stands for, especially the 'G'... They do their best, but really only know the basics, which is why sometimes if you feel (within yourself) that there's something more seriously wrong than Paracetamol can cure, or whatever else you're being prescribed, or that you're just being fobbed off and treated as a 'number', you should insist on getting a second opinion or in seeing a specialist.
Waiting times in surgeries now are often ridiculous, due to extremely overworked doctors and staff, and so it's inevitable that the pressure they're under is sometimes going to result in patients being given less than thorough examinations, because doctors, like anyone else, are only human. That's why it pays sometimes to be stubbornly persistent, and not afraid of challenging a GP's assessment of your condition.
Also, don't be afraid to TALK to them, describing your symptoms in as much detail as possible, and make them listen! After all, ultimately, who knows our own bodies better than us? It's often the case that when you *know* within yourself that something's wrong, it is wrong, even if it's not immediately obvious to a GP.
Most importantly of all, however, is if you think there's something wrong, don't delay and get yourself professionally assessed, ASAP.
Marco.
There's money to be made from conspiracy theories judging by the number of publications. And all seemingly supported by references, which are unfortunately generated by similarly inclined writers all citing each other to keep the snowball rolling and growing!
And the trouble is that whilst we can laugh at them, some take them very seriously, with fatal results, such as that German bloke who wanted to kill lots of Jews at a synagogue (and because he couldn't get in, killed two random strangers instead). His head was filled with nonsense about Jews 'controlling the world' and about feminism being another Jewish plot.
There's an excellent BBC programme about 'fake news' presented by Ian Hislop which looks at how such ideas are spread:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00095hv/ian-hislops-fake-news-a-true-history
(Though, ironically, Hislop's own magazine was partly responsible for giving credence to the anti-MMR views of Andrew Wakefield.)
There's money to be made from conspiracy theories judging by the number of publications. And all seemingly supported by references, which are unfortunately generated by similarly inclined writers all citing each other to keep the snowball rolling and growing!
Yes, and unfortunately in some instances it has the counterproductive effect of diluting the credibility of actual facts, painted as 'conspiracy theories', by those with ulterior motives intent on hiding the truth;)
In that respect, it achieves the same result as 'the boy who cried wolf'...
Marco.
To return to this for a moment: '"The World Health Organization [WHO]/ United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund [UNICEF] vaccination campaign in Africa is not about eradicating neonatal tetanus, but is a well-coordinated, forceful, population control, mass sterilization exercise using a proven fertility regulating vaccine."
obstetrician/gynecologist Dr. Wahome Ngare, Kenyan Catholic Doctors' Association president,
published a letter in the Kenyan press, November 4, 2014'
The little I know about this is that this resulted from a school-boy error. Some Catholic doctors had found levels of a hormone (hCG) in people who had had the anti-tetanus vaccine. This hormone can reduce fertility...and so the conspiracy theory started...
The truth seems to be that this hormone is produced naturally by both men and women and that the Catholic doctors had taken blood samples from patients and sent their samples to a non-approved lab. Why not take samples from fresh un-opened samples of the vaccine still in its vials? There is a joint WHO and UNICEF report on this nonsense.
Richard.
hifinutt
17-10-2019, 21:58
Some years back there were scares that flu jabs caused neurological diseases .hopefully these scare stories have been revealed as false.
Sherwood
17-10-2019, 22:28
I have worked in international health since the early 1980s, first as an academic and then as an advisor to developing country governments and health project manager. In this period, many of the supply side and logistical problems of getting basic health services to those in need have been addressed, save for a number of war torn and fragile states. Increasingly, development effort is shifting from the supply side to the demand side and measures designed to change knowledge, attitudes and practices, and to incentivise populations to change their health seeking behaviour. Those who invent and spread these ridiculous conspiracy theories about "harmful vaccines" or "malevolent intentions" are literally taking lives. One of the most shocking experiences was when I was working in Uganda in the mid 80's at the end of the civil war there. At the time the country was the epicentre of the HIV/AIDs epidemic and districts such as Rakai had ridiculously high prevalence rates, even by African standards. Conspiracy theories, ignorance and suspicion about the motives of health providers led to countless preventable deaths and much suffering.
Pigmy Pony
18-10-2019, 05:53
I have worked in international health since the early 1980s, first as an academic and then as an advisor to developing country governments and health project manager. In this period, many of the supply side and logistical problems of getting basic health services to those in need have been addressed, save for a number of war torn and fragile states. Increasingly, development effort is shifting from the supply side to the demand side and measures designed to change knowledge, attitudes and practices, and to incentivise populations to change their health seeking behaviour. Those who invent and spread these ridiculous conspiracy theories about "harmful vaccines" or "malevolent intentions" are literally taking lives. One of the most shocking experiences was when I was working in Uganda in the mid 80's at the end of the civil war there. At the time the country was the epicentre of the HIV/AIDs epidemic and districts such as Rakai had ridiculously high prevalence rates, even by African standards. Conspiracy theories, ignorance and suspicion about the motives of health providers led to countless preventable deaths and much suffering.
Yeah, this is where "conspiracy theories" become more than just the amusing ramblings of a few paranoid nutjobs. It's a pity that nothing can be done to hold these people to account, but then that would just become another conspiracy theory, "silencing the whistle-blowers"
We underestimate the serious of the "flu" in this country. It is a potential killer even for the relatively young in good health.
Or we say "we have the flu" when in reality we have a bad cold
Sherwood
18-10-2019, 14:23
Or we say "we have the flu" when in reality we have a bad cold
If you have the flu you know it. It is easy to verify the specific infection with a simple blood test as the virus differs in type and severity.
Ive had several varieties, plus pleurisy and pneumonia 3 times.. My lungs are scarred to buggery:doh:
Sherwood
18-10-2019, 14:32
Ive had several varieties, plus pleurisy and pneumonia 3 times.. My lungs are scarred to buggery:doh:
Yes, influenza and pneumonia are potential killers> The common cold ....... less so!
AJSki2fly
18-10-2019, 14:54
Yes, influenza and pneumonia are potential killers> The common cold ....... less so!
Just had mine 30 minutes ago, only a small prick:)
Just had mine 30 minutes ago, only a small prick:)
s'ok, they call everyone that :ner:
AJSki2fly
18-10-2019, 15:00
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Just had mine 30 minutes ago, only a small prick
s'ok, they call everyone that :ner:
What, even you?:lol:
Marco was exempt... they called him a great big dick:D:uhho:
AJSki2fly
18-10-2019, 15:06
Marco was exempt... they called him a great big dick:D:uhho:
:lol::eek::eek:
better a big dick than a little prick i guess;)
had mine this morning.. it was sore so she gave me a lollipop:D
AJSki2fly
24-10-2019, 11:17
had mine this morning.. it was sore so she gave me a lollipop:D
Be careful extracting it.:lol:
if you prick me, shall i not bleed:lol:
Be careful extracting it.:lol:
Did you say that to the wife when unzipping your fly?:eyebrows:
Marco.
AJSki2fly
24-10-2019, 16:51
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Be careful extracting it.
Did you say that to the wife when unzipping your fly?:eyebrows:
Marco.
I say that to all the girls. :eyebrows::lol:
dave2010
24-10-2019, 23:12
I would urge everyone to have a'flu jab - especially if you are over 65 and/or have a compromised immune system.
Last year 600 people died of the 'flu; in 2008-9 it was 13 000! (UK figs).
'Flu is not just the common cold but worse -it's utterly debilitating for at least 3 days. To not have one when offered is selfish. We need to get the figure up to near 90% of at-risk patients for 'herd-immunity' to kick-in. Similarly, and perhaps even more important, is a measles jab. The advice I was given was that it's no good saying 'I had it in my childhood' so must be immune. One must have been infected at least twice and had the result confirmed by a path lab. One's GP's opinion based on the symptoms is no longer regarded as being good enough. Please disregard entirely the fake-news of the ignorant anti-vaccers.I agree absolutely about the statistics, but some people really do have a bad reaction, and some are hospitalised. I may get a reaction. I’ve had two flu jabs and each time I was really ill enough after a few days that I decided I’d only have another if I was feeling really well beforehand. That doesn’t invalidate the statistics, but if I can survive without having the vaccination I will.
dave2010
24-10-2019, 23:23
Ah, that makes sense! Never been outside of Europe myself, but if I were going to somewhere like India, I'd be jabbed up to the max!
I think we’re probably OK re jabs - apart from the flu one - as we had a whole bunch over the last decade for trips to Africa, India, Vietnam and Cambodia. Malaria and rabies are some of the diseases that scare me most, though I didn’t have the rabies vaccination. I don’t know how effective the expensive malaria tablets are, or whether they’re strictly necessary, but I took the pills and I didn’t get it, nor some of the other nasties I was inoculated against.
Audio Al
25-10-2019, 03:01
I agree absolutely about the statistics, but some people really do have a bad reaction, and some are hospitalised. I may get a reaction. I’ve had two flu jabs and each time I was really ill enough after a few days that I decided I’d only have another if I was feeling really well beforehand. That doesn’t invalidate the statistics, but if I can survive without having the vaccination I will.
I must be lucky then , No reactions at all with the flu jabs I have have since going past the big 60 and getting the call from the local doctors surgery telling me I should now have one , And being a good boy I have :D
dave2010
25-10-2019, 05:47
I must be lucky then , No reactions at all with the flu jabs I have have since going past the big 60 and getting the call from the local doctors surgery telling me I should now have one , And being a good boy I have :DI think most people are lucky with this, and should have the jabs, and that does even seem to include some people who have other medical problems. Most report either no problems, or very slight ones.
I can’t prove that my own issues after having the injections were caused by them, but I’m reluctant to try again unless I feel really fighting fit, and even then I personally would probably not know that an injection saved me from a severe fate. The statistics are very much in favour of having them for most people.
Had no issues again this year with jab. Well that I know of.
Hoping it gives me protection
Surgery gave me earliest date for me and missus about a month in future, local pharmacy offered a walk-in service. No-brainer, especially as I understand the jab is not effective immediately.
Sherwood
30-10-2019, 07:03
Surgery gave me earliest date for me and missus about a month in future, local pharmacy offered a walk-in service. No-brainer, especially as I understand the jab is not effective immediately.
Same here. Despite being at high risk and advised by my consultant to get the jab, my GP said he couldn't give me an appointment for a month. I called into Tesco and had it done there and then! No clubpoints though! :(
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