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Stryder5
17-09-2019, 09:52
Just been experimenting on my second system.

Tisbury passive attenuator.
Bi-amped Proart amplifiers.
Dali Zenzor Pico speakers.

These items just seem to gel. Tried various other speaker/amplifier/pre combinations.

There's an emotional and dynamic sound that's outstanding for the cost.

Gary

Opti-cal
17-09-2019, 09:58
Glad they're working for you Gary . . . .

Wish I could say the same. I seem to be the only person on AOS who hasn't made them work.

Super flat and un-involving with my 63's . . . Strange, as users of 57's absolutely rave about them.

Did Alan's mod too and still couldn't get on with them.

Oh well nothing ventured etc . . . wasn't a fan of the, errr fan either.

Bigman80
17-09-2019, 10:02
Glad they're working for you Gary . . . .

Wish I could say the same. I seem to be the only person on AOS who hasn't made them work.

Super flat and un-involving with my 63's . . . Strange, as users of 57's absolutely rave about them.

Did Alan's mod too and still couldn't get on with them.

Oh well nothing ventured etc . . . wasn't a fan of the, errr fan either.Did you give them chance to run in?

Stryder5
17-09-2019, 10:09
Glad they're working for you Gary . . . .

Wish I could say the same. I seem to be the only person on AOS who hasn't made them work.

Super flat and un-involving with my 63's . . . Strange, as users of 57's absolutely rave about them.

Did Alan's mod too and still couldn't get on with them.

Oh well nothing ventured etc . . . wasn't a fan of the, errr fan either.

I'm not a fan of the fan either, but I have plans for that:)

I think they are pre-amp sensitive if used as power amplifier, I tried other pre-amps and agree with your comments "flat and uninvolving", it was the Tisbury that bought everything to life. So synergy between components rings out again.

Sorry they didn't work for you.

Gary

Opti-cal
17-09-2019, 11:26
Did you give them chance to run in?

A good 3-4 hours a day for 3 days and things did not improve. Running them direct from source sounded okay but it was so far away from where I wanted it to be there would be no break-in improvement possible to even get them close. Tried with two different tube pre-amps but just did nothing for me. Wrong speaker, wrong setup me thinks.

I'm considering a system overhaul in light of a house move anyway so I may be back to square one as it were!

Firebottle
17-09-2019, 11:59
Just been experimenting on my second system.

Tisbury passive attenuator.
Bi-amped Proart amplifiers.
Dali Zenzor Pico speakers.

Gary

How are you doing the bi-amped part Gary? Same signal into both inputs and one O/P to tweeter and one to woofer?

hifinutt
17-09-2019, 12:03
i use the zensor pico as left and right speakers in an av system [ as they fit on top of the tannoys ] super little things . can`t think why they stopped making them

struth
17-09-2019, 12:10
ohmage wont be an issue but think they are only 84 rated sensitive so that might be. I found they liked a more sensitive speaker, no idea why tho really

Stryder5
17-09-2019, 12:39
How are you doing the bi-amped part Gary? Same signal into both inputs and one O/P to tweeter and one to woofer?

One amp to each speaker fed from left and right on pre-amp, Pico's only have one terminal so can't separate woofer and tweeter.

Gary

Firebottle
17-09-2019, 12:54
So you mean monoblocks not bi-amped :ner:

Bigman80
17-09-2019, 14:11
A good 3-4 hours a day for 3 days and things did not improve. Running them direct from source sounded okay but it was so far away from where I wanted it to be there would be no break-in improvement possible to even get them close. Tried with two different tube pre-amps but just did nothing for me. Wrong speaker, wrong setup me thinks.

I'm considering a system overhaul in light of a house move anyway so I may be back to square one as it were!Ah, fair enough. Just wondered as the one I heard at Alan's had some miles on I believe. Didn't sound flat or anything other than excellent.

Can't grumble of you gave them a fair chance, and it sounds like you did.

Opti-cal
17-09-2019, 14:16
Ah, fair enough. Just wondered as the one I heard at Alan's had some miles on I believe. Didn't sound flat or anything other than excellent.

Can't grumble of you gave them a fair chance, and it sounds like you did.

In a lot of ways it was reassuring. Sounds silly but switching my usual amp back in after a couple of days was a real joy. Especially after Alan had his fingers inside it . . . .

Break-in is real, more so with some components than others but like I say I reckon there was a system mis-match not helping things.

Bigman80
17-09-2019, 14:17
In a lot of ways it was reassuring. Sounds silly but switching my usual amp back in after a couple of days was a real joy. Especially after Alan had his fingers inside it . . . .

Break-in is real, more so with some components than others but like I say I reckon there was a system mis-match not helping things.Haha, you've let Alan tinker with your kit! It'll never be the same lol.

Opti-cal
17-09-2019, 14:20
Haha, you've let Alan tinker with your kit! It'll never be the same lol.

You can say that again . . . .

Sounds like he's getting a bit of a bombardment from all sides at the moment but he has brought it on himself somewhat (by making stuff super awesome . . . )

Bigman80
17-09-2019, 14:21
You can say that again . . . .

Sounds like he's getting a bit of a bombardment from all sides at the moment but he has brought it on himself somewhat (by making stuff super awesome . . . )Hahaha, yes, he absolutely deserves it. No doubt about it.

Firebottle
17-09-2019, 15:45
Haha, you've let Alan tinker with your kit! It'll never be the same lol.

Tinker? TINKER? How very dare you :rolleyes:

I'll have you know all my tinkerings are to the very highest standards of British Bodging.