Oh Dear, I think I am morphing into Jerry! [Archive]

AJSki2fly

10-09-2019, 14:47

So the very large boxes :uhho:, arrived at lunch time, what will SWMBO say, after carefully moving them with a sack trolley I had them in the Lounge ready for unpacking.

So here they are Tannoy Legacy Arden's, mint and only 1 year old.

Once divested of the cardboard then my initial panic subsided:hmm:, a least a bit. So I bi-wired them up, and set them at the default cross-over settings, sat back and put on one of my listening tracks, Ravi Shankar - Tala Rasa Ranga. :wow: are these something :champagne:, much more depth and control and very musical, drums, bass and mid-range just have soo much moooore, and a sweet top end!

Up next was a quick burst of 10cc - The Worst Band in the World, oh these are good indeed.

So it was time to tidy up put the kettle on ready for Sue to come home for lunch. Her initial reaction was, oh they're big but then she compared them to the JBL's and said well its not that bad, PHEW!

So I put on some random music on Audirvana and played around with position and bit until I had more focus at my listening position, this improved it all a bit more. I then fitted the spikes and a slight improvement in focus. I am somewhat limited where they can go but am able to move them in and out from the rear wall, at the moment the front of the speaker are 30" out into the room and they sound pretty good.

Whilst writing this I have listened some more and I think I have made the right decision. I did some P/Xing with the dealer with an tone arm, speakers and CDP, so at the end of the day did not have to put up much cash, so I quite pleased. By the way I still have the JBL's.

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Edward

10-09-2019, 14:55

Journey end time! :cool:

Can't beat 15 inch Tannoys. Scale, texture, drama, finesse.

And, by some magic, the size of the boxes seem to diminish over time.

Macca

10-09-2019, 14:57

One of the best speakers ever made - good choice!

AJSki2fly

10-09-2019, 15:06

Thanks chaps, I am rather pleased, Cheshire-Cat comes to mind.

I took a bit of a punt buying them, as only could see photos, and it was too far to go and see and hear them, nearly 500miles. I suspect they would have gone anyway if I had delayed. I read up on them and having heard my mates Tannoy Kensington GR's (he has the same amp as me) I thought well they can't be that far removed from them.

I am listening to my favourite test tracks but just keep letting the LP's play as each one sounds so good.:champagne::champagne::champagne:

I think I may nearing the end of the road with my system apart from the odd tweak here and there, I better not say that too loud though!:lol:

Edward

10-09-2019, 15:16

All I've heard on the Legacy series are good things. Phil (hifinutt) has a pair of Eatons and rates them highly. Was tempted by the Grade B Legacy Ardens nintrioics have, but it would have bean a big spend. I have to slob it with old Berkeleys. :rolleyes:

Do give the energy and treble controls a play. I find it helps a great deal.

The Cheshire smile will not wane any time soon. :)

anthonyTD

10-09-2019, 15:25

Unlike most other speakers Tannoy DC's are not too fusy where you place them, but as you say, they can still be improved with some careful alignment.
Good luck with them. :)
A...

AJSki2fly

10-09-2019, 15:33

AJSki2fly

10-09-2019, 15:33

Unlike most other speakers Tannoy DC's are not too fusy where you place them, but as you say, they can still be improved with some careful alignment.
Good luck with them. :)
A...

Thanks

Audio Al

10-09-2019, 17:54

Welcome to the 15" DC Club :D

I dont think you are Jerry MK2 as he does strange internet music now NO propper black disc's ;)

struth

10-09-2019, 17:57

I've got 2 10 inchers lol. That's nearly 15. Not tannoys tho

Yup congrats on the speakers. The y look super condition

mikeyb

10-09-2019, 18:10

Welcome to the 15" DC Club :D

I dont think you are Jerry MK2 as he does strange internet music now NO propper black disc's ;)And he hates Tannoys if I remember right

tapid

10-09-2019, 19:57

And he hates Tannoys if I remember right
Yeah I hear there a bit rubbish !

AJSki2fly

10-09-2019, 20:04

Welcome to the 15" DC Club :D

I dont think you are Jerry MK2 as he does strange internet music now NO propper black disc's ;)

Oh, and I mistakenly thought Jerry was a purist, that sought perfection, not a digital wannabe! :eek:but then he’s got Daleks for speakers:lol:

Mikeandvan

10-09-2019, 21:45

Lovely dog, a customer had a red setter puppy the other week, it was adorable.

jandl100

11-09-2019, 08:29

Oh, and I mistakenly thought Jerry was a purist, that sought perfection, not a digital wannabe! :eek:but then he’s got Daleks for speakers:lol:

Tannoys?

Nope, you are most certainly not morphing into me. :nono:

And he hates Tannoys if I remember right

Absolutely right, horrid things.

But I am happy that you like them, Adrian. :thumbsup:

jandl100

11-09-2019, 08:31

Lovely dog

Yup, we've met. Lovely dog, indeed. Crazy, but lovely.

AJSki2fly

11-09-2019, 13:52

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Oh, and I mistakenly thought Jerry was a purist, that sought perfection, not a digital wannabe! but then he’s got Daleks for speakers
Tannoys?

Nope, you are most certainly not morphing into me.

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And he hates Tannoys if I remember right

Absolutely right, horrid things.

But I am happy that you like them, Adrian.

Tannoys?

Nope, you are most certainly not morphing into me. :nono:

Absolutely right, horrid things.

But I am happy that you like them, Adrian. :thumbsup:

Well I am quite surprised and would be interested why you dislike so much, perhaps you would like to offer your opinion on Tannoy's generally?

I do know that in the past certain models of Tannoy were reported has having a honking sound, presumably at the low end and maybe box colouration due to lack of stiffness, but I could be wrong. The new Legacy line models have revised cabinets built with stiffer materials and with better bracing, and I think improved drivers. All the reviews of the Arden's I have read praise them very highly.

The Legacy Arden's that I have to my ears produce a very neutral and natural sound, so far anyway. I have been through my usual 20 listening tracks today and have not been disappointed with any. A couple I was quite surprised by are quite heavy in the bass department, St. Germain - Montego Bay Spleen, this has a thundering amount of bass and drum which can easily overtake and drown the whole soundstage but not the case with the Arden's, the other track(s) Also Spracht Zarathustra (Duetsche G. 2530 402) has huge deep bass in various sections and the Arden's just take it in their stride, all very musical and detailed.

Macca

11-09-2019, 14:46

IIRC it is the honk in the mids that Jerry doesn't like.

walpurgis

11-09-2019, 15:06

IIRC it is the honk in the mids that Jerry doesn't like.

There is no mid 'honk'. Pepperpot compression driver Tannoys have in common with most speakers utilising horn tweeters, a certain character. It's not necessarily due to a specific resonance, but may be a colouration nonetheless. I tend to like this though.

The Legacy series drivers do not use the pepperpot compression horn, they have the ceramic magnet tulip waveguide tweeter. This probably due to cost, as the pepperpots are expensive to make.

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Macca

11-09-2019, 15:39

There is no mid 'honk'..
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I don't think so either, it's Jerry you have to convince!

Lawrence001

11-09-2019, 15:43

I've got 2 10 inchers lol. That's nearly 15. Not tannoys tho

Yup congrats on the speakers. The y look super conditionI square the diameter of each driver and add them up, but first I subtract an inch off each for the surround. So that's 196 for the Tannoys and 162 for the MBLs. Not far off at about 80%.

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walpurgis

11-09-2019, 16:07

I square the diameter of each driver and add them up, but first I subtract an inch off each for the surround

Glad to see somebody else taking cone surrounds into account. I always allow half the surround width when working out cone areas. That may not be strictly accurate though, as the whole surround moves.

jandl100

11-09-2019, 16:24

There is no mid 'honk'. Pepperpot compression driver Tannoys have in common with most speakers utilising horn tweeters, a certain character. It's not necessarily due to a specific resonance, but may be a colouration nonetheless. I tend to like this though.

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I agree, really. I don't hear a Tannoy Honk. It's more of a grainy chhh sound (as in Scottish loch) that is overlaid on everything.
Especially noticeable on orchestral strings, but once I hear it it overlays everything. It really drives me crazy, can't stand it.

Paul @RFC, I think, understands the root causes and his crossover designs go a fair way to mitigate them. But it's still there and audible to me.

Nothing's perfect and there are plenty of speaker choices out there, including dalek clones! ;)
You just have to choose the set of compromises that suit you best.

struth

11-09-2019, 16:25

Glad to see somebody else taking cone surrounds into account. I always allow half the surround width when working out cone areas. That may not be strictly accurate though, as the whole surround moves.

i take off one surround if adding two together to make one. guess it would be more accurate to do all 3:eyebrows: still, 2 *10's is not far off a 15... obviously you dont get the same kick etc but the right type of smaller ones will be faster. Of course DC's have also the centre part just to change things again

walpurgis

11-09-2019, 16:39

I don't hear a Tannoy Honk. It's more of a grainy chhh sound (as in Scottish loch) that is overlaid on everything.

Paul @RFC, I think, understands the root causes and his crossover designs go a fair way to mitigate them. But it's still there and audible to me.

I know what you mean Jerry. I did describe to Paul Coupe years ago, that I thought this effect was due to reflections across the horn throat where the sides are near parallel, directly ahead of the phase plug. It seems less on the post HPD ceramic magnet models, where the horn is shorter and sides are more angled, minimising the chance of reflections.

jandl100

11-09-2019, 17:00

I know what you mean Jerry. I did describe to Paul Coupe years ago, that I thought this effect was due to reflections across the horn throat where the sides are near parallel, directly ahead of the phase plug. It seems less on the post HPD ceramic magnet models, where the horn is shorter and sides are more angled, minimising the chance of reflections.

Shock-Horror!
Geoff (a Tannoy big time fanboy) and me (a long term Tannoy hater) agree about the Tannoy Sound. :eek:
We just differ on how we respond to it! :)

Audio Al

11-09-2019, 18:38

My Tannoys have angled cases and twin rear ports , No honking here ;)

Bib Bib :ner:

walpurgis

11-09-2019, 18:41

My Tannoys have angled cases and twin rear ports , No honking here ;)

Bib Bib :ner:

How are you getting on with them Al, now you've had a bit of time to get used to them?

Audio Al

11-09-2019, 18:51

How are you getting on with them Al, now you've had a bit of time to get used to them?

I will post my thoughts on my Time for some Tannoy thread :)

AJSki2fly

11-09-2019, 19:23

I agree, really. I don't hear a Tannoy Honk. It's more of a grainy chhh sound (as in Scottish loch) that is overlaid on everything.
Especially noticeable on orchestral strings, but once I hear it it overlays everything. It really drives me crazy, can't stand it.

Paul @RFC, I think, understands the root causes and his crossover designs go a fair way to mitigate them. But it's still there and audible to me.

Nothing's perfect and there are plenty of speaker choices out there, including dalek clones! ;)
You just have to choose the set of compromises that suit you best.

Interesting Jerry, but I have to say I have not detected the "ch" issue you describe with these Ardens. I would have thought some of the music I listened to today would have brought it out, it was pretty broad range, variety of rock, pop, jazz and classical, but maybe not.

walpurgis

11-09-2019, 19:53

Interesting Jerry, but I have to say I have not detected the "ch" issue you describe with these Ardens.

You wouldn't do. Yours have the tulip waveguide driver, not the compression driver. Different sound.

AJSki2fly

11-09-2019, 19:56

You wouldn't do. Yours have the tulip waveguide driver, not the compression driver. Different sound.

Oh ok I wondered if they differed, that’s re-assuring thanks. Do you still have the amp, or have you moved on? Cheers Adrian

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walpurgis

11-09-2019, 20:19

Oh ok I wondered if they differed, that’s re-assuring thanks. Do you still have the amp, or have you moved on?

Well I don't know about 'reassuring', I personally prefer character of the pepperpot tweeter, but both are good. Not sure which amp you mean, I've had a variety in the last year or so.

AJSki2fly

11-09-2019, 20:22

Well I don't know about 'reassuring', I personally prefer character of the pepperpot tweeter, but both are good. Not sure which amp you mean, I've had a variety in the last year or so.

Sorry I’m having a weird day today, started a new heart drug that’s affecting me a bit. I was thinking you were Jerry who got an amp from me. Thanks anyway.

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walpurgis

11-09-2019, 20:29

Ah, No probs. Hope you get over the weird effects quickly.

jandl100

12-09-2019, 05:23

Do you still have the amp, or have you moved on? Cheers Adrian

Ah, the lovely Vincent.
Good lord, no, I'm on my 3rd amp since then.

Lawrence001

12-09-2019, 08:23

There's a complication I hadn't thought of the dust cap in a conventional driver, it must compress/come out as the driver moves as it's not stiff. So probably still comparable with DCs but I need to think about my ratios again [emoji38]

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walpurgis

12-09-2019, 08:29

Better to overestimate than underestimate I think.

AJSki2fly

12-09-2019, 14:49

Ah, No probs. Hope you get over the weird effects quickly.

Thanks Geoff, not so sure, I have had a raging headache on and off now for about 3 days, and sometimes nausea and I am on a very low dose. Even popping paracetomols just seems to dull it. According to the spec. sheet for Nicorandil 1 in 10 get headaches. It seems to have minimised the Angina I have been getting, but to be honest I am not sure which is worse. Maybe my body will get used to the drug and the headaches will subside, I will give it till Monday and speak with the GP if its not improved by then.

AJSki2fly

12-09-2019, 14:56

A quick update on the Arden listening front.

As I posted on Al's thread I have made and put shielded earthing cables to them. I was sceptical about it but it definitely has improved the blackness/depth as others describe it, which makes for a better musical experience.

I have been listening to the Arden's quite a bit and I am very very impressed and pleased with them. I think I have noticed an improvement in tone and openness in the soundstage since I first plugged them up on Tuesday, so I am wondering about how much they have actually been used. Perhaps they have not done that many hours and need a few to settle down as it were.

Anyway I am very pleased with what I am hearing, and thanks for everyone's kind comments.

Barry

12-09-2019, 15:11

A bit late to the party Adrian, but you seemed to have netted a fine pair of speakers in first class condition. Well done.

Enjoy them :)

Barry (a Tannoy agnostic)

AJSki2fly

12-09-2019, 16:14

A bit late to the party Adrian, but you seemed to have netted a fine pair of speakers in first class condition. Well done.

Enjoy them :)

Barry (a Tannoy agnostic)

[emoji23][emoji23]:lol: :lol: So you could go either way then, with respect to Tannoys that is. Cheers

Barry

12-09-2019, 19:55

[emoji23][emoji23]:lol: :lol: So you could go either way then, with respect to Tannoys that is. Cheers

The last time I heard Tannoy speakers it was about thirty years ago - the cabinets were massive, so big you could have climbed inside them! More recently I have heard Marco's Tannoy drivers in Lockwood cabinets and enjoyed listening to them. But without spending considerable time with them I remain largely agnostic concerning the performance differences of the various driver designs: 'pepperpots' or 'tulips'. :scratch:

However I have heard very little that would persuade me to abandon my Quad 57s; speakers I have used for the last forty five years!

AJSki2fly

12-09-2019, 20:25

Quad 57s sound like something from the Spanish inquisition, saying that they look like racks to me. Are you sure your are meant to listen to them? [emoji23][emoji23]

Only joking I have many years ago hear a pair and they were impressive in certain respects.

Audio Al

13-09-2019, 00:57

The last time I heard Tannoy speakers it was about thirty years ago - the cabinets were massive, so big you could have climbed inside them! More recently I have heard Marco's Tannoy drivers in Lockwood cabinets and enjoyed listening to them. But without spending considerable time with them I remain largely agnostic concerning the performance differences of the various driver designs: 'pepperpots' or 'tulips'. :scratch:

However I have heard very little that would persuade me to abandon my Quad 57s; speakers I have used for the last forty five years!

Barry , Have you seen the new hand help mobile phones yet , YES REALLY a phone you can hold , walk around with and put in your pocket :eek: and you won't believe this you can now get what they call sliced bread , Allready cut up for you , Amazing just amazing ;)

jandl100

13-09-2019, 06:20

.... yes, and some people still use those really old fashioned black vinyl discs for listening to music.
How quaint.

:D

walpurgis

13-09-2019, 06:34

.... yes, and some people still use those really old fashioned black vinyl discs for listening to music.
How quaint.

:D

Yes. Apparently they work by dragging a rock along a rough furrow, how primitive. Thank goodness for modern digital! :)

Audio Al

13-09-2019, 07:05

Macca

13-09-2019, 07:09

Don't make me laugh :lol: , next thing you will be telling me is that vinyl is about to out sell CD 's :rolleyes:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/vinyl-cds-revenue-growth-riaa-880959/

:)

8.6 million units compared to 18.6 million for cd so not anytime soon I don't think. The really sad thing is that streaming will bury them both eventually.

Pharos

13-09-2019, 08:33

Interesting to hear views on Tannoys, they and the 57s were really the heritage studio monitors in the 60s and into the 70s.

In about '71 I bought a pair of Tannoy Gold Lancaster 15s, and the seller was changing because he said they were colored,
and that view was also expressed by fellow engineers at work.

In about '85, I bought a pair of ESS AMT 1aMs, and rebuilt them, they were so different and had a clarity which blew all of my friends away, this partly because the tweeter was high whereas the Tannoys were quite low down. I remember an R3 sax avant guard solo was really astounding also, as was an LBC wine ad's cork pull from a bottle. I was round a corner cleaning my teeth, and it was so real that it actually gave me heart palpitations.

The Tannoy graphs showed mid range colorations, a sort of squawkiness, but never the less they were very communicative and gave me years of pleasure, but I was unimpressed with the very big ones at a more recent 90s Hi-Fi show, sounded like steam trains to me.

My friend with whom I exchanged a Gold for one of his later HPDs on a swap loan, Berkleys I think, thinks that we have moved on a lot, and that they are now outdated.

Underlying all this is that IMO, what we think of as burning/bedding in, is actually our brains habituating to a new representation of sound, and in order to interpret and extract as much information as possible. Realistically, no system is anything like reality, and we do 'software processing' to learn how to read it, and this takes time and learning.

RMutt

13-09-2019, 08:57

Hello Dennis. I may have missed this somewhere, but do you mind me asking what speakers you use now?

scotty38

13-09-2019, 09:45

Great speakers congratulations!

Can I ask about the elephant in the room, or rather the sofa? Does that stay there and does it have any impact?

Pharos

13-09-2019, 11:20

Yes Andrew, having recently won a legal case against BT, I indulged and bought a pair of 3rd hand ADAM Tensor Beta actives, travelling to Berlin to get them, and it costing over £1k to do so.

I have been so impressed, that I was recently seriously considering upgrading to the Alphas, but it seemed an obscenity, and they probably would be too big for my room. The MTM configuration would have resulted in the mids and tweeters being exactly halfway between the floor and ceiling, and so reflections would I think have been a concern.

RMutt

13-09-2019, 12:11

Thanks Dennis.

jandl100

13-09-2019, 12:27

I've heard some big active Adam monitors at shows, absolutely superb speakers!
Totally neutral, very transparent, and room-explodingly dynamic! :eek: :thumbsup:

RMutt

13-09-2019, 15:09

The current Adam Audio S5V monitors look to have potential. Five thousand and odd pounds but with six amplifiers in the pair they could be considered reasonably priced. Unfortunately beyond my budget.

AJSki2fly

13-09-2019, 15:09

Great speakers congratulations!

Hi Martin,

Can I ask about the elephant in the room, or rather the sofa? Does that stay there and does it have any impact?

I have tried then without the elephant in the room(sofa) and the difference is minimal, maybe a little damping of the bottom end but to be honest you have to listen extremely hard to hear it. You neve know it may actually be helping as you can see I have to have them near to a side wall on the right and next to the records on the left, so any damping effect may help slightly. I also have them toed in so that the centre axis cross over just infant of me, it seems to work quite well.

Maybe next week I will take some measurements with REW and see what reflection horrors are happening, but as long as it sounds OK to me I suppose that's all that matter really.

Cheers

Adrian

Pharos

13-09-2019, 15:20

I'm surprised at the little difference that makes Adrian.

To put expensive actives into a current context, ATC SCM 100ASLs now cost £17k, I bought a pair for about £5.5k in '96.

AJSki2fly

13-09-2019, 15:47

I'm surprised at the little difference that makes Adrian.

To put expensive actives into a current context, ATC SCM 100ASLs now cost £17k, I bought a pair for about £5.5k in '96.

Well it may not be obvious from the photos but the 15" drivers are not obstructed in any way by the sofa, and they have a clear line of sight to my listening position. As you can see from the picture below only about 3-4" of the cabinets are obscured each side of the sofa where the drivers are. About 1/3 of the lower half of the cabinets are obscured by it, this is where the 3 ports are and it seems to have little impact on the bass, which is substantial, controlled and can go very deep. We have a pair of new sofas coming next month and luckily it will obscure the speakers even less.

I would add that I think that our room is about as small as you would want with the Ardens, it is 24' by 13'. The walls are dot and dab plasterboard onto thermablocks, and do not seem to be too reflective from measurements I have done. I suspect the ceiling is the worst reflector, I suggested a nice suspended pretty/arty sail type arrangement hanging in the ceiling, this did not go down well with SWMBO and I was not even allowed to experiment with some sheets to take REW measurements. I have played around with some soft wall hangings on the walls and covering up the TV and placing lamp stands in my listening end corners covered in blankets, this did improve the reverb acoustics. But I was not allowed to keep any of it. I do keep my eye out for some nice modern paintings on canvas that I could hang on the walls to break it up, everything I have shown Sue so far has been firmly rejected.:rolleyes:

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antonio

14-09-2019, 06:31

"everything I have shown Sue has so far been firmly rejected":

:lol:

Macca

14-09-2019, 07:27

The dog looks like he would be pretty absorbent, can you train him to stand in the right place in the room?

AJSki2fly

14-09-2019, 08:51

The dog looks like he would be pretty absorbent, can you train him to stand in the right place in the room?

Harry usually has hid head in the middle of the room to get the best from the stereo imaging.;) Actually it is quite interesting because if I put music on he comes into the room, if not he tends to stay in his bed in the kitchen so I please he finds some of the sounds relaxing. :eyebrows:

scotty38

14-09-2019, 09:00

Thanks for the response Adrian and I am happy to hear it works and sounds great. My interest is genuine as I'm a huge admirer of Tannoys and love to see them working in real rooms.

I recently had a pair of Stirlings in my 15x15 (roughly) room and I absolutely loved the look of them and the sound apart from the fact they excited the room at a certain lowish frequency. I could pull them away from the wall a bit more and it helped but my wife, much like yours. knocked that on the head so ultimately they had to go. I was always waiting for the "boom" and watching my wife in my peripheral vision thinking "These cost 4 grand and they keep doing this...."

Pharos

14-09-2019, 09:24

AJSki2fly

14-09-2019, 09:33

From instinct and my Tannoy experience Adrian I would be concerned about the upper part of the sofa affecting horizontal dispersion, though I don't doubt your findings. The bass being affected would not be of concern.

At one point I was seriously considering removing the ceiling plasterboard and hanging sheets in loops forming ditches between the joists, under which was BAF wadding.

Next week I will measure them with the sofa in the room and without with a sweep wave, the microphone being at my head position and compared the results, which may or may not be interesting. I will let you know the findings.

Yes ceilings are very overlooked and are probably the worst part of a rooms acoustics unless you have modern decor with hard flooring in the lounge, vinyl or wood. I used to work in a sound and vibration lab in my early twenties and we used to acoustically take measurement of all sorts of stuff in the lab and out and about. The trick is not to deaden the rooms acoustics too much you need a subtle balance between too alive and being dead, also the speaker/system and its position will have a big impact on this. I often think this is why sometimes you hear of a system working very well for one person and then appallingly for another, possibly due the seconds one being a complete misfit in the seconds room and its furnishings etc. IMO your ears basically need to judge whether it's working for you or not.

Edward

14-09-2019, 09:49

I do keep my eye out for some nice modern paintings on canvas that I could hang on the walls to break it up, everything I have shown Sue so far has been firmly rejected.:rolleyes:

Whilst I have not yet bought any myself I have heard good things about the panels GIK sell. You can either choose an image they have or upload your own image.

https://gikacoustics.co.uk/product-category/acoustic-art-panels/

Furthermore if you send GIK a REW sweep of your room with room dimensions they will suggest recommended placement of panels etc.

AJSki2fly

14-09-2019, 13:36

Thanks for that, just drawing up room plan, looks interesting. My best friend has an awkward room, it will be useful for him, he was just thinking of doing some acoustic panels but not sure where to start.

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AJSki2fly

20-09-2019, 13:27

As a brief update, I have just had a :doh:moment and shortly after a :yay: moment.

A friend called in on his way down the Cornwall and wanted to hear and have a look at the Ardens, this is when I discovered that the damping foams had been left in them, presumably from the previous owner or dealer, and I had not thought about checking for them. So I took them out, put a record on and I have to say that this has opened the bass and soundstage up somewhat, not that it was bad before, but now it has just gone up several notches. :yay: