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FidelityArt
16-10-2019, 18:13
Mark,
Do you need a hand/help with anything?
Kris
audioflat or pfm ken.
http://www.audioflat.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=900
https://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/interest-check-sheffield-uk-bake-off.230645/page-4#post-3784130
Thanks for those links.
Edit:
There is a bit of inconsistency, the PFM thread says 9:00 to 5:30
But the Audioflat thread seems to be the main one, with most of the discussion and that says to 4:30 as it does here. So will take that as the finishing time.
I like the idea of a set up at each end. less dead time, as one end can set up while the other is playing.
I’m out by the way, dog sitting problems :(
Mark,
Do you need a hand/help with anything?
Kris
I don’t really know, but that’s really kind of you to offer Kris. I’ve been super tied up with work and my friends Paul and Si have organised it all.
Hi Jamie
I like to think of myself as a bit of a Canine Specialist.
I'm sorry to hear your dog has got sitting problems.
Is this due to the dog having not learnt this command during early training ?
Or is it possibly a medical condition that would require a professional investigation ?
On the up side, I usually charge £30 per hour for my Professional Advice, but I am more than happy to give this consultation for free to another AoS Member :lol:
Just a bit of banter Jamie, the reason for the contact is to see if you know somebody attending Sheffield from your area, who could pick up the Phonotherm on your behalf ?
Hi Jamie
I like to think of myself as a bit of a Canine Specialist.
I'm sorry to hear your dog has got sitting problems.
Is this due to the dog having not learnt this command during early training ?
Or is it possibly a medical condition that would require a professional investigation ?
On the up side, I usually charge £30 per hour for my Professional Advice, but I am more than happy to give this consultation for free to another AoS Member :lol:
Just a bit of banter Jamie, the reason for the contact is to see if you know somebody attending Sheffield from your area, who could pick up the Phonotherm on your behalf ?
hi john,
no worries,if you like you can send it to me,im happy to pay the cost mate.
Hi Jamie
I like to think of myself as a bit of a Canine Specialist.
I'm sorry to hear your dog has got sitting problems.
Is this due to the dog having not learnt this command during early training ?
Or is it possibly a medical condition that would require a professional investigation ?
On the up side, I usually charge £30 per hour for my Professional Advice, but I am more than happy to give this consultation for free to another AoS Member :lol:
Just a bit of banter Jamie, the reason for the contact is to see if you know somebody attending Sheffield from your area, who could pick up the Phonotherm on your behalf ?
hi john,
no worries,if you like you can send it to me,im happy to pay the cost mate.
Floyddroid
18-10-2019, 04:40
Hey guys i can't make it. Have a great day though and post plenty of pics
itskeith
18-10-2019, 07:40
Sorry Guys,
Change of plan at this end means I am not going to make Sunday now.
Hope you have a great day and hopefully they'll be some pics of the event and feedback.
Happy to chip in my share of room hire costs, if someone could let me know a PayPal a/c to contribute to.
Blackmass
18-10-2019, 10:40
I'm afraid I won't be going to the Sheffield bake off. I've got a cold (Man Flu). I've had it since last Tuesday and can't shake it off. I've been off work since last Wednesday.
Hope the day goes well and all attending have a great day.
The Mapleshade Speaker Cables on the Spreadsheet are now out on loan as of today.
Is the DAC on the spreadsheet of any interest, or shall I leave this behind ?
There is not appearing to be a method to audition the Rebuilt K'b,
as this was Dependent on a SME Detachable Headshell Tonearm being available.
With the Two TT's with AT-1010 Tonearms not being Auditioned, shall I leave the Rebuilt K'b behind ?
I am good to go with the PTP Solid 9> Audiomods Series V > Hana SL, with the Standard Mains Supply vs Long Dog Audio Quartz Speed Controller MKII vs Nigel Speed Controller.
I have enjoyed all the auditions these two have done, the differences to be assessed always get a good debate going.
Bigman80
18-10-2019, 21:15
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Drat, can't make Sunday now as Grandsons birthday moved from today. Hope u all have a great day.
Confirming I will be there, just finished dismantling and boxing the kit ready for tomorrow.
Alarm set for 5:45 and hoping to get there just before 9:00.
Ali Tait
19-10-2019, 12:57
Ended up having to work today, so won’t have time to bring all my gear, I’ll just bring the valve amp and the Tribute AVC.
Good Man Ali
I've got the Slagle AVC to bring along, as a past owner of a Slagle, it should be good to compare.
Ali Tait
19-10-2019, 13:45
Yes, be interested to hear.
Hap Hazzard
19-10-2019, 18:02
Packed and ready to go. :)
I’ve just visited the venue where one system is already in place and a second is being constructed - the sound is excellent :).
I’ve just visited the venue where one system is already in place and a second is being constructed - the sound is excellent :).
Great stuff!
Hope you have a great day - shame it is so far away for me as I would have loved to join you.
Floyddroid
20-10-2019, 07:26
Have a brilliant day guys
FidelityArt
20-10-2019, 08:26
Shall I bring my TT or have you got enough gear?
Hap Hazzard
20-10-2019, 16:50
Just got back from having a great day. :)
A huge huge thanks to the organisers for putting this venue on. :thumbsup:
It was great meeting everyone and putting faces to names. All the systems sounded excellent, I could of lived with any of them. It was good to see a few twists and different approaches on the Yamaha NS 1000's it just shows how inventive/creative people are and how versatile the Yamahas are. I loved the Quad set up as well, the clarity was sublime.
Again a huge thanks to the venue owner and the organisers, without you guys this would not of happened. I look forward to the next one.:dance:
Some pictures here:
http://www.audioflat.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=900&p=16125#p16125
A massive thank you to my friends Si and Paul for the organisation of this event and to all of those who went to so much trouble to bring their equipment - absolute stars, every one of you :).
lots of gear... nice pub by look of it. pity i dont drink no more, or i could have enjoyed getting pissed there:)
mayebaza
20-10-2019, 18:59
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Bigman80
20-10-2019, 19:07
Good pics!
Would just like to say a massive thanks to the organisers and all who turned up!
Heard some great systems and met some really nice people so all in all a great way to spend the day.
Bummer I forgot the cd player for the PI to show folks how good it sounds - always next year ;)
Also the venue was easy to get to and was pretty good - good choice :)
Like to add my thanks to the organisers for a great event. Good venue, good music, good Crack.
A great success.
The doughnuts were yummy too.:)
FidelityArt
20-10-2019, 22:21
https://youtu.be/mhmuYiIV4Ro
Thank you so much for bringing your system Ken, a truly fascinating experience listening to yours and Si’s side by side and yours with the valve amp on the mids/tweeters :).
FidelityArt
20-10-2019, 22:23
https://youtu.be/kcH5oz5kS8s
FidelityArt
20-10-2019, 22:28
https://youtu.be/CX90RZRGxiw
FidelityArt
20-10-2019, 22:29
https://youtu.be/rDGOinsX5oc
Looks like a great day was had by all. Highly interested to read of how some of the items sounded (for instance Ken's actives and THOSE electrostatics).
Lawrence001
21-10-2019, 07:44
Got to ask, what's the Eclipse CD player for? They were £9.99 from Richer Sounds IIRC. Or was it £4.99??
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Thank you so much for bringing your system Ken, a truly fascinating experience listening to yours and Si’s side by side and yours with the valve amp on the mids/tweeters :).
Glad to participate. Yes, it was good to compare notes with Simon, there were certainly elements within the sound of his set up, I would like to inject into mine and vice versa. That's the beauty of these gatherings, every system played brought something different to the table and was equally good in its own right, I could quite happily have lived with any of them. My class D set up sounded quite nice, but introducing Ali's Unison Research Valve Amp (Big thanks for bringing that along) to run just the Mids/Twts raised the bar. So plenty for me to consider there. :eyebrows:
Ali Tait
21-10-2019, 09:46
No worries Ken, glad to help. I’ve heard a few iterations of your active Yammies, you now have it nailed, they sounded great.
Thanks to Simon et al for organising, it was a great day out with some great sounds, and as always came away with some new music to listen to.
misterdog
21-10-2019, 14:55
Got to ask, what's the Eclipse CD player for? They were £9.99 from Richer Sounds IIRC. Or was it £4.99??
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Just to prove that source first is not necessarily a correct view. Shame I was having problems with a decent source, I was soldering the Quads together until 23.45 on the Saturday night and had a mishap with my DAC the week before.
Still the Quads are transportable now they have proper stands, will be interesting to see if all that work provides any sonic benefit.
Ali Tait
21-10-2019, 16:34
They sounded great with CD.
They sounded great with CD.
They shone for me with the CD and even more so with the TT.
Excellent work and well worth the effort :)
Lawrence001
21-10-2019, 20:44
They sounded great with CD.What, the Eclipse?? [emoji23]
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My thoughts on the day:
http://www.audioflat.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=900&p=16135#p16135
My thoughts on the day:
http://www.audioflat.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=900&p=16135#p16135
That's a pretty fair assessment of the various set ups and my thoughts would be along similar lines.
My pure class D set up was pretty grey and underwhelming on the day, it sounds better in my smaller, soft furnished room, but similar. Introducing Ali's Valve Amp made a huge difference and brought a smile to my face for sure.
For reference, my set up is totally balanced, but I used an XLR to RCA adaptor lead, to accommodate Ali's single ended Valve Amp, when it powered the Mids/Twts. This arrangement ran remarkably quite, with no sign of hum etc, which can sometimes happen when mixing single ended and balanced equipment.
A slight specification correction, the replacement 12" woofers I used are not SEAS, they are the Scanspeak 30W, a much overlooked bass unit.
Ah, ok, I’ve made that change; I don’t know why I thought they were SEAS.
I had a Seven Hour Round Trip all in, so it was a bit of a adventure in itself getting to and from.
I would think the Spirit of the day was more from a adventurous approach, than the well established system being put on trial in a known environment.
The Quad ESL 63 was fresh of the work bench, and being put out for a public auditioned working bench test, and they pulled through nicely, they did sound very nice with Vinyl, but as a preference I would have liked a little more volume, but that was not avaialble with vinyl on the day.
When the CD went on they were delivering a fine performance to my ears, holding onto my interest.
Si was presenting the latest incarnation of a bread board assembly Pi digital set up,
in a case this would lose itself in a domestic environment, with thousands of Music choices at the touch of tiny remote, the Speakers in use had a good delivery, and the amps I know from a previous demonstration in a different set up, and I have only good appraisal for their delivery.
The Newly Built DIY NS1000 Mimic Speakers were of the finest finishing, they were very skillfully built and would adorn any home, more than capable of creating a appeal as a furnishing.
On the resident set up, I was wishing the Bass Unit had few hundred hours extra playtime under the belt, Ali's Valve Amp took them to another level of performance I did not see developing, on my Journey home it was a case of what if we put the Valve DAC in the set up as well, hmmm???.
The System firing down the room by the Hall Entrance was delivering Female Vocals and Blues in a noticeable quality, I felt the speakers were not projecting/ or getting to grips with the room so the more energetic music was geting a little lost in the space.
As I liked a few of the replays from this system, I had a look under the hood, and see if i could use my Valve DAC, which was a goer, and the offer to hook it up was kindly accepted.
Once this was working, two things took place that I didn't forsee, first was the new projection of the Soundstage, I would have expected this from a Amplifier, but not from a DAC, so hey ho what do I know, it was a good synergy with partnering equipment and the speakers coupling to the room was very captivating.
Secondly, I put on a CD I was gifted for its first time being played by me.
I have this CD in Vinyl and it is a great recording, and others have purchased it after listening to it. The CD didn't get through half a tracks replay before it was ousted from the Player. I certainly was not anticipating that, I've only been into CD'sfor a short period of time, so I wonder how many of my collection would fall when compared to Vinyl ?
I had engaged in a few good valuable informative conversations and felt very welcome, as welcome as the Crispy Cremes were, I also learnt one other trick, I didn't know it was so easy to eat a Crispy Creme like a Jaffa Cake, Full Moon - Half Moon - Total Eclipse, I don't know how many were observing,
but there was a few Total Eclipses during this meet :mental:
'Til we cross paths again :goodluck:
Ali Tait
22-10-2019, 19:02
What, the Eclipse?? [emoji23]
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Yep.
Lawrence001
23-10-2019, 18:41
Yep.I'll believe it when I hear it...
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I heard the Eclipse in the system and the sound was OK - but it didn’t redefine my ideas of the importance of having a really good source component. The overall presentation was governed by the Quad’s, but other than that ... .. .
Ali Tait
24-10-2019, 12:41
I'll believe it when I hear it...
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Yes that’s the point, I heard it, you didn’t.
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