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mad-moon
20-07-2019, 12:27
Has anyone tried this CBD oil, or have any information they can share about personal experience use?

Bigman80
20-07-2019, 12:37
Has anyone tried this CBD oil, or have any information they can share about personal experience use?Yes.

What would you like to know.

mad-moon
20-07-2019, 12:55
dosage, how you felt after your dose, were you tired, subdued, light headed... which type and strength should I be using..arthritis is the main problem....can you recommend anywhere I should be going to, to purchase it?..I've been online and it is a minefield. I've purchased a 10ml bottle 250mg (2.75%) from Healthspan..inexpensive at £15.00. How long does it take to get into your system?..any info appreciated..Thankyou Oliver..

Bigman80
20-07-2019, 13:14
dosage, how you felt after your dose, were you tired, subdued, light headed... which type and strength should I be using..arthritis is the main problem....can you recommend anywhere I should be going to, to purchase it?..I've been online and it is a minefield. I've purchased a 10ml bottle 250mg (2.75%) from Healthspan..inexpensive at £15.00. How long does it take to get into your system?..any info appreciated..Thankyou Oliver..Well, my experience was making High THC content Canabis oil for my MIL when she had Cancer.

Her dosage was supposed to be 1g per day according to the Rick Simpson website but she only managed to get to 0.6g.

The transformation was night and day. She went from not being able to get out of bed to going out for a drive and a piece of cake. Her appetite returned and she slept well. Honestly, it was stunning.

Unfortunately, it was too little too late for her.

The stuff you buy online or in the UK has high CBD content and low to 0% THC content so it's very different stuff. ALSO, the majority of CBD oil is made from a hemp strain rather than a real cannabis strain like an indica or sativa plant.

My advice would be to always go Organic as a lot of standard food/nutrients used in cannabis is very poor quality.

If you can find something that was grown on Kelp or other organic materials, you'll be OK.

Look for high CBD Vs the cheap Low content stuff. You'll never get THC content unless you make your own which is illegal in the UK.

As for dosage, there won't be a dosage as such because its a completely holistic medicine so my advice is start of low and work up to see how it affects your pain. CBD oil doesn't cause drowsiness usually as it's not the same as THC oil and is usually made from the Sativa strain. Indica is a heavy, lazy feel but Sativa can have quite a euphoric feeling but that's usually within the tricomes of THC producing plants. Not the CBD producing plants.

Confused? Lol.

Start small, do more if you aren't getting the result you require.

That bottlenyouve bought isn't gonna hurt you in the slightest unless you break it and tread on it. 2.75% is exceedingly low.

I'll have a look around the Internet and see what's available.

Bigman80
20-07-2019, 13:23
This looks fine

https://www.purelifeuk.co.uk/co2-extracted-full-spectrum-organic-cbd-oil/

Made from SativaL and available with 50% CBD content. Looks to be organic too.

Should mention, full spectrum is the way to go as you get the three types of CBD in one. You have three types of CBD receptors in your body and there's three types of CBD. Cool ay!

mad-moon
20-07-2019, 13:39
This looks fine

https://www.purelifeuk.co.uk/co2-extracted-full-spectrum-organic-cbd-oil/

Made from SativaL and available with 50% CBD content. Looks to be organic too.

Should mention, full spectrum is the way to go as you get the three types of CBD in one. You have three types of CBD receptors in your body and there's three types of CBD. Cool ay!

Excellent..thankyou Oliver...

Pigmy Pony
20-07-2019, 16:10
Not for everyone due to its illegality, but the proper full fat stuff will definitely do the job, and if home cultivated the end result can be quite easily controlled dosage-wise. And long term would be considerably cheaper. Personally I would risk it if it were genuinely for medical reasons as the penalties these days are fairly light.

That said, if one were to go down that route the best advice I could give is TELL NO ONE!

I didn't write this, someone stole my laptop ;)

thingfish
20-07-2019, 16:19
Well tell no one has kind of gone lot the window.......!!!

My advice talk to your Doc.

Bigman80
20-07-2019, 16:44
Yes, never divulge a grow to anyone and I mean ANYONE. loose lips sink ships, as they say.

Haselsh1
20-07-2019, 16:53
I have severe osteoarthritis in my left knee and have used CBD Oil from Holland and Barrett for quite a while. It reduces the inflammation a helluva lot. I apply it to my knee as an oil rub. Takes less than 10 minutes to become effective.

mad-moon
20-07-2019, 18:04
I have severe osteoarthritis in my left knee and have used CBD Oil from Holland and Barrett for quite a while. It reduces the inflammation a helluva lot. I apply it to my knee as an oil rub. Takes less than 10 minutes to become effective.

That's interesting Shaun...I'll give that a go too...If it works...it'll do for me cheers...

struth
20-07-2019, 18:10
I get anti inflammatory tabs from doc plus pain killers. Enough to knockout a horse [emoji23]

mad-moon
20-07-2019, 18:20
I get anti inflammatory tabs from doc plus pain killers. Enough to knockout a horse [emoji23]

Yeah...Can't take them Grant..not even short term..the anti inflammatory medication counteracts the heart medication and the pain killers don't do much anymore..just taking the edge off...it's a pain....(no pun intended)

struth
20-07-2019, 18:23
Yup know how u feel. I've been on them too long but they wont operate due to health risks.
Catch 22

hifinutt
20-07-2019, 18:27
Well tell no one has kind of gone lot the window.......!!!

My advice talk to your Doc.

How do I get a prescription?
You cannot get cannabis-based medicine from your GP – it can only be prescribed by a specialist hospital doctor.

And it is only likely to be prescribed for a small number of patients.

A hospital specialist might consider prescribing medical cannabis if:

your child has one of the rare forms of epilepsy that might be helped by medical cannabis
you have spasticity from MS and treatments for this aren't helping
you have vomiting or feel sick from chemotherapy and anti-sickness treatments aren't helping
The specialist will discuss with you all the other treatment options first, before considering a cannabis-based product.

A prescription for medical cannabis would only be given when it was believed to be in your best interests, and when other treatments hadn't worked or weren't suitable.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/medical-cannabis/

struth
20-07-2019, 18:37
I don't really agree with it not being prescibed if it's going to be of use, and I know of folk who have won court cases to get it yet still don't get it.
Personally I wouldn't take non prescription drugs. Hell I don't even drink now lol

Ninanina
20-07-2019, 19:22
I purchased CBD oil ages ago but can't say I found it that helpful...

alphaGT
21-07-2019, 03:21
Very good information on this thread. Be forewarned, using CBD will cause you to fail piss tests for pot. Why you ask? It has no THC? Well the cheap tests most everyone uses doesn’t test for THC, THC only stays in your system for the time one is high. But CBD stays in your system for up to two months. So that’s why they test for CBD, if they have random tests at work, or with a pain med doctor, be aware.

I used CBD in a lollypop form, it didn’t make me high, but I did feel it. And it didn’t make me sleepy, but I slept well. I can’t really say much about it’s pain relieving properties, as it was only the once.

Russell

Pigmy Pony
21-07-2019, 11:19
Yes, never divulge a grow to anyone and I mean ANYONE. loose lips sink ships, as they say.

Police intelligence (an oxymoron if ever there was one!) is really a euphemism for info obtained from relatives/friends/neighbours with a grudge.

Personally I can't be doing with the strains which are around these days - it makes me edgy and anxious, so I haven't bothered with it for years. But if I had a condition that would benefit from its use, I would not hesitate.

Bigman80
21-07-2019, 12:52
There's still loads of the old school strains available. Super silver haze is still grown and that's a classic.

Sativa too so no heavy feel.

Spectral Morn
21-07-2019, 13:58
Guys please keep this dicussion re legal activity in the UK, thank you.

Bigman80
21-07-2019, 14:48
Guys please keep this dicussion re legal activity in the UK, thank you.I don't believe anyone has suggested breaking the law or encouraged anyone to do so?

Super silver haze and other old school strains are grown legally in Spain, as well as other countries like the USA and I was merely saying that certain old school strains are still grown.

Not sure why that's cause for moderator interjection?

Macca
21-07-2019, 14:54
It was the link you put in your earlier post Ollie.

Bigman80
21-07-2019, 15:10
It was the link you put in your earlier post Ollie.It's only information Macca, might be useful to someone in need.

Anyway, don't we have members from all over the world. Seems a little bit short sighted to deprive our members of information that may be legal in their country?

thingfish
21-07-2019, 15:13
Has anyone tried this CBD oil, or have any information they can share about personal experience use?

Alan have you tried Frank. :D

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Gaz
21-07-2019, 15:14
I have severe osteoarthritis in my left knee and have used CBD Oil from Holland and Barrett for quite a while. It reduces the inflammation a helluva lot. I apply it to my knee as an oil rub. Takes less than 10 minutes to become effective.

I was recently chatting to a Dr (socially) who explained that it doesn't actually matter where on your body you apply pain relieving gels as the active ingredients invariably need to be metabolised by the liver before any effect is felt, in his opinion they are a marketing gimmick.

Haselsh1
21-07-2019, 15:17
I was recently chatting to a Dr (socially) who explained that it doesn't actually matter where on your body you apply pain relieving gels as the active ingredients invariably need to be metabolised by the liver before any effect is felt, in his opinion they are a marketing gimmick.

So applying Voltarol gel to your lower back will stop osteoarthritis in your left knee..? I find that extremely hard to believe.

Haselsh1
21-07-2019, 15:19
I was recently chatting to a Dr (socially) who explained that it doesn't actually matter where on your body you apply pain relieving gels as the active ingredients invariably need to be metabolised by the liver before any effect is felt, in his opinion they are a marketing gimmick.

Once a substance has been metabolised it is no longer effective as it has already been broken down by the liver. That is the process of breaking it down.

Haselsh1
21-07-2019, 15:21
in his opinion they are a marketing gimmick.

So all topical medication in the form of an application gel is merely a gimmick..? This includes Voltarol and Ibuleve..?

struth
21-07-2019, 15:24
doctors prescribe those so presumably they work; at least with some forms of pain. not sure re arthritis tho...depends where it is too.. you cant rub ggel into your hip as the joint isnt where most think it is

hifi_dave
21-07-2019, 15:50
I started to take various CBD oils around 3 months ago to help with the ongoing, persistent pain from Spondylolisthesis and bulging disc in my lower back. I can't take anti-inflammatories because of Kidney problems and the Gabapentin and Pregabalin prescribed had no effect. I was hoping the CBD would do the trick but it doesn't help. I was also hoping it would help me sleep but sadly, it doesn't help with that either.

I'm not sure if the concentrations I have used are high enough - Jacob Hooy 2.75% and Cannabigold 5%. The Jacob Hooy tastes disgusting and the oil seeps out around the bottle top to make a right ol' mess. The Cannabigold is fairly tasteless and comes in a pump bottle, so nicer to use. There was another at 2.75% which I can't recall the name of.

Maybe I'm not taking enough/day or the concentration is too low ?

Macca
21-07-2019, 15:58
It's only information Macca, might be useful to someone in need.

Anyway, don't we have members from all over the world. Seems a little bit short sighted to deprive our members of information that may be legal in their country?

It wasn't me that moderated it, you'd have to take that up with Neil. :)

Anyway loads of sites full of this sort of info, everyone knows how to do a search.

Bigman80
21-07-2019, 15:58
I started to take various CBD oils around 3 months ago to help with the ongoing, persistent pain from Spondylolisthesis and bulging disc in my lower back. I can't take anti-inflammatories because of Kidney problems and the Gabapentin and Pregabalin prescribed had no effect. I was hoping the CBD would do the trick but it doesn't help. I was also hoping it would help me sleep but sadly, it doesn't help with that either.

I'm not sure if the concentrations I have used are high enough - Jacob Hooy 2.75% and Cannabigold 5%. The Jacob Hooy tastes disgusting and the oil seeps out around the bottle top to make a right ol' mess. The Cannabigold is fairly tasteless and comes in a pump bottle, so nicer to use. There was another at 2.75% which I can't recall the name of.

Maybe I'm not taking enough/day or the concentration is too low ?Go higher.

hifi_dave
21-07-2019, 16:01
Higher % or take more per day ?

If I take a double dose of 2.5%, will that make 5% ?

Bigman80
21-07-2019, 16:02
Higher % or take more per day ?

If I take a double dose of 2.5%, will that make 5% ?With a higher % you'll take less oil when you find the level that works.

Spectral Morn
21-07-2019, 16:20
It's only information Macca, might be useful to someone in need.

Anyway, don't we have members from all over the world. Seems a little bit short sighted to deprive our members of information that may be legal in their country?

Anything illegal in the UK, where AOS is based must be kept off the site, including references to and wink wink nudge nudge stuff to where information on, or encouragement to do/or show how to do illegal stuff is located. Let others do a search, but links from AoS can't be allowed.

So I repeat please keep everything about this topic to what is legal within the UK, other locations legality is not relevant.

thingfish
21-07-2019, 17:27
The thread should have been pulled at the opening OPs Post.

Imho of course.

CBD oil ffs.........Magic Mushrooms next...... Seasons almost here though.

:D

User211
21-07-2019, 18:44
So the ridiculous obscenities many of us throw into three words are fine but the discussion of something like marijuana is not? They talk about it in the media enough including the BBC.

Is there any legal requirement that AOS must comply with?

No.

I'm not advocating anything I just find it more than a bit strange.

If you go through the archives you will find it has been discussed before.

Vince
21-07-2019, 18:56
I've been taking CBD oil for just over a week and I'm not sure if it has helped. I take a shit load of painkillers, including morphine. I have had a disc replacement in my neck and a disc fusion in my back. I need two new knees and have a big plate and 7 screws in my right leg. I'm only 53 years old but I used to race motocross when I was 16 -25 old and had more crashes than I care to remember. I'm not positive but I think the CBD has taken the edge off, but I was hoping for more......£85 for 30mg bottle. I've increased the dosage slightly and will increase slightly again in a week or so. If it works, even so I can walk just a little bit further, I will gladly pay the asking price. I have found it cheaper for my next bottle as well. So fingers crossed.....I'll be in the next London Marathon.....I wish��

Macca
21-07-2019, 19:02
Discussing it here is fine, helping or encouraging others to break the law is not. I mean personally I think the law is nonsense and unjust and stops a lot of people getting natural and side-effect free pain relief. But this is a hi-fi site not Berkeley in 1968 so it's probably best to steer clear of that particular controversy.

alphaGT
21-07-2019, 19:04
CBD oil is legal in the UK is it not? So if we stay on topic, there should be no issue. After all, we are not advocating recreational use of illegal substances, we are trying to help fellow members deal with debilitating pain, which is a worthy cause is it not? So let’s stay on topic, I for one know nothing about these percentages and what they mean, good information there!

A friend gave me a bottle of Wild Lettuce Extract. Perfectly legal. He says it gives him relief from his pain from MS. So much so that he no longer needs to take opioids. But I regret to say I am not feeling much relief from it. But I’m still dealing with a lot of post surgical pain, so I’m withholding judgement for now.

Russell

hifinutt
21-07-2019, 19:15
So applying Voltarol gel to your lower back will stop osteoarthritis in your left knee..? I find that extremely hard to believe.

Yes , these creams were not really prescribed by Gp`s till Nice said they worked . all of a sudden you could get them on scrip. I have never heard of this idea that they can work elsewhere in the body . They are designed to be applied to the affected area

Bigman80
21-07-2019, 19:16
The confusion is that people In The UK *think* they are taking cannabis oil whereas the majority are not.

You are consuming cannabidiol whichbis being made from hemp, which is a cousin of the cannabis plant.

It is not cannabis oil.

Cannabis oil is made from..... Cannabis WHICH IS STILL ILLEGAL IN THE UK, unless your fat tory cunt and active war on drugs campaigner, who can afford a licence to grow in the UK and who can sign a deal with big pharmaceutical companies to put the oil in medicine such as savitex. If you can do this, you will be given multi million pound orders and better still, you can hammer the NHS with the price on prescription. Which is the real reason they don't want to prescribe cannabis oil infused meds.

Anyway, better not say too much on the subject in case I bring AoS into disrepute.

Disclaimer: Cannabis Is illegal so I Don not recommend breaking the law to seek a plant based, highly powerful solution to your pain.

hifinutt
21-07-2019, 19:18
I've been taking CBD oil for just over a week and I'm not sure if it has helped. I take a shit load of painkillers, including morphine. I have had a disc replacement in my neck and a disc fusion in my back. I need two new knees and have a big plate and 7 screws in my right leg. I'm only 53 years old but I used to race motocross when I was 16 -25 old and had more crashes than I care to remember. I'm not positive but I think the CBD has taken the edge off, but I was hoping for more......£85 for 30mg bottle. I've increased the dosage slightly and will increase slightly again in a week or so. If it works, even so I can walk just a little bit further, I will gladly pay the asking price. I have found it cheaper for my next bottle as well. So fingers crossed.....I'll be in the next London Marathon.....I wish��

Wow vince , sorry to hear this , hope you find something that works !!

hifinutt
21-07-2019, 19:22
interesting article on cbd and arthritis

https://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/could-cannabis-compound-soothe-arthritis-pain/

Vince
21-07-2019, 19:39
Thanks Phil,
I was ok until my mid forties.....then just went down hill really quick. I had worked for 20 years with my disc fusion in my back and a few years with the disc replacement in my neck. I'm really overweight now, its shot up in the last 6-7 years and I need the weight off so I can get knee replacements. Having a hobby in Hi-Fi is ideal when I am like this, it's a fairly chilled out past time. Still keeping fingers crossed on the CBD. Cheers mate.

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hifinutt
22-07-2019, 12:34
Ah its great to have AOS to let off steam !!

Thanks ollie for the guidance re hemp and CBD , arriving through the door today is a magazine full of hemp patchs for pain advert , even hemp balm for dry skin . gosh its all the rage

Bigman80
22-07-2019, 12:46
Ah its great to have AOS to let off steam !!

Thanks ollie for the guidance re hemp and CBD , arriving through the door today is a magazine full of hemp patchs for pain advert , even hemp balm for dry skin . gosh its all the rageYou'll be covered in patches lol

Ye sorry for the rant but the government hypocrisy kills me.

hifi_dave
22-07-2019, 15:38
It is becoming very popular because of a lot of coverage in the media.

User211
22-07-2019, 17:31
Even my wife has some pink potion containing CBD which she applies to her face at night.

The women's mags are full of it.

Haselsh1
22-07-2019, 18:27
Yeah I think that a lot of UK folk think they are taking THC which they are definitely not unless it is illegal use of the stuff. Most, if not all of the topical applications here in the UK are CBD only. This is very good at alleviating pain and inflammation. I would not take this internally though so I use it as a rub on and around my left knee. It works wonders in combination with paracetamol. Yeah it stinks to high heaven but it works for me. I will hear this Friday whether I can have a replacement left knee or not. Friends who smashed themselves up at the same time as me have already had their new joints and say that they are life changing. I'll wait and see.

speedyj
17-01-2021, 20:15
I take 1g a day sub lingual and its been fantastic in my fight against cancer / brain tumor.

Buy from a reputable source and stick to correct dosage and it will be fine.